That sounds like passing around some THING not seeing me as a human. A group of friends passing me around .. seems a little icky. I screen by getting to know the person I will spend time with via getting to know them. i.e: communicating and treating them with respect and as the individuals they are. Ladies: when men see you as a person, they are not the type of man to cause you harm. I've been in biz for 15yrs.. NEVER had I had a problem. ... By doing this, treating my special time w/ people as getting to know a friend, I've never had a 'freak' show up . that anyone feels I deal with undesirable people,or that is what this business must be like, I find that a bit offensive.
My advice: Ladies: lowering your rates and giving discounts is not something you really want to start.Respect yourself, give good service, treat and be treated with respect. Try to have a good time with it all. People will want to see you and will come back again and again. If they are the type to 'share' with their friends; YOUR PERSONALITY and the comfort/fun you provide will be all the incentive they need. -- Modified on 10/8/2013 8:51:12 AM
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I read some posts about screening and safety and YES it's makes perfect sense. If I were a provider I would Screen and Screen more. You have NO idea what kinda of freak is going to show up. Knowing this why don't women use the referral method? For example, I recently received a PM from a TER buddy that said "I was this amazing women last night, you have to meet her"...We talked more and he referred me to her. I made contact with her and it was EASY because I was referred by someone that saw her already. Lets take it one step further....If I was a provider I would give an incentive to refer me to other men. I would say "please refer your nice friends and I'll give you a discount and/or a free session. Has anyone ever tried that and if so, did it work? I have been approached my three women that asked me to refer some of my friends like me that are young, have money and are good looking. I got her three regulars that spend about 1500 a month on providers....That a lot of money and she gave me free sessions. It worked for both of us....thoughts...suggestions....
That's all well and good as long as you know the person you are referring someone to! Giving provider info to some random person online is just plain stupid!
I'm talking about friends.....NOT People you don't know...That would be crazy/stupid
Yes it IS stupid but stupid guys do it all the time!!
I take care of my regulars anyway, so when they take some pressure off of me by referring a friend (I have to verify employment of course), I am more than happy to reward them on the next visit. Think of it as hotels.com lol. For every guy you refer, you get 100 off a future visit. I found a sugar daddy through a referral from another provider once, and it lasted a good 8 months. For me, that's a long time ha ha ha.
there are a lot of reasons why this might not work for someone. Though, the idea sounds great.
Not all guys have friends that are in the business.
Not all guys want to share "their provider" with their friends.
Not all guys CARE to try to HELP us with business.
I wouldn't feel comfortable asking a client to refer people to me, he would have to suggest it, not me.
Most guys aren't going to suggest that.
Even if you did refer him, depending on how well I know you, I would still need to verify him.
Like I said, it is a great idea, but I could continue on with different variables to why this wouldn't work for everyone. Like I said its a great idea that sounds good, but I just dont think it will work a lot of the time. But - hey if you wanna see me and then send me your friends, GO AHEAD! haha! 
I'm a Share slut...it's NOT like my GF or wife...why would I care who my friends fuck.....I think it's cool. Another things we can talk about while surfing at the gym. How was she last night....."" ""
I don't want clients referring their 'friends' to me. I don't know these said 'friends'. Who are these guys...somebody they talk to on a discussion board? I don't know them, I don't know their reputation, and I haven't interacted with them or spoken with any PROVIDER who has. They are an unknown.
What you're describing sounds exactly like what the smarmier hobbyists in NYC do...see a girl (for a discount), review her highly (for a discount) and refer their friends (for an ongoing discount). It's a racket. I've had girls try to 'pimp' me to these guys...they actually try to find new and stupid girls for these assholes to see!!! Unbelievable. I don't work that way and never have. I don't care about the extra money. I'm not giving some creep the upper hand with me...I'm dependent on repeat business to an extent, but I don't EVER want to pander to people like I described. I have never been in and will never be in a position where I have to give freebies and discounts and can't just tell some dooche to f*** off if he deserves it.
This post made me mad
Nah, actually I kind of agree with you. Nothing ruins the afterglow quicker than having the lady you just had sex with ask you if you have any buddies that would be interested in fucking her too.
Personally I don't need the extra money, and would feel kind of weird accepting a discount for referring a lady that I was having regular sex with to my friends. Maybe I need to turn in my pig card? lol
If a guy has a great time with a girl, and he is the recommendation-giving type...he will just make the recommendation without expecting anything in return, or even mentioning to the girl that he just did her a solid. What the OP said sounds more like pimping her out to his buddies (and any guy he's talked to once or twice on a board). I'd be embarrassed
Everyone knows he's nothing more than a pimp, but some of the newer, more naive girls still buy into his bullshit.
Networking and referrals are great, but it's so easy to cross over the line into outright pandering, not to mention it can ruin a gal reputation if she is getting rave reviews and referrals for a discount or freebies.
I agree with GaGambler. Some have dignity some look at it as just business. I've had the opportunity when I was seeing someone who in a round about way mentioned that he wanted to turn his friends.Without ever having the conversation I avoided all avenues that were put in front of me. Sessioning in my opinion are very private encounters and tipping friends off for a discount might mean it's time to quit the hobby if saving a few or more dollars means that much .In the end men would wind up at each others throat after sharing behind the door stories about her. It's just a bad choice ....
Personally I don't need the extra money, and would feel kind of weird accepting a discount for referring a lady that I was having regular sex with to my friends. Maybe I need to turn in my pig card? lol
You make a very good case. That said, as long as it isn't for a discount there's nothing wrong with referring people. I have a small circle of friends who are highly reputable and we report to each other back channel every time we find a great new girl. Because these gals have already screened and sessioned with the referring party, they are generally happy to see a friend of ours with minimal screening or none at all. But even then, who knows what they do to check our friend out. Still, this must be done only with people we personally know. All of us have socialized at M&Gs and other events, so we know who we're recommending. It's a fairly rare thing in this game.
I'd be flattered to know that a guy I saw recommended me...to one or two people, that he knows well (close to your example)...that's cool, and I've done the same for girls I've befriended. But if he was actively trying to talk me up to his 'friends', and expecting a kickback....rather than a kickback, he'd get kicked to the curb.
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Your NOT a good business person....O'yeah...thats why you fuck for a living....Got it
Most girls will tell you that the key to success here (in the long run) is regulars. You can definitely get more single sessions by offering freebies for reviews and letting some random reviewer pimp you, sure. But the key to assessing someone's success (again, in the long term) is how many of those clients repeat, and would (not will) recommend her to someone else, not for kickbacks, but just because their experience was positive.
I don't care what industry you work in...feeling obligated to work for free and/or pay that isn't adequate by normal industry standards, hoping that eventually you'll get 'promoted' for your good deeds, is degrading. People do it all the time tho - but who? Newbies, and people with no other options.
I don't NEED anybody to pimp me!
TG-baby....you are not the brighten light in the harbor...it's all good babe. LMAO
Sorry, but I would much rather have Tom the CEO who I have seen for a year refer me to a friend (one who works in a profession I can verify) than taking the word of Sally from Eros that said guy is ok. I don't know HER from Adam, and I don't know what kind of men she finds appealing. With the friend method, the guys generally don't refer you to someone disgusting or an asshole because they know it looks bad on THEM, and they have to fk you again
That sounds like passing around some THING not seeing me as a human. A group of friends passing me around .. seems a little icky. I screen by getting to know the person I will spend time with via getting to know them. i.e: communicating and treating them with respect and as the individuals they are. Ladies: when men see you as a person, they are not the type of man to cause you harm. I've been in biz for 15yrs.. NEVER had I had a problem. ... By doing this, treating my special time w/ people as getting to know a friend, I've never had a 'freak' show up . that anyone feels I deal with undesirable people,or that is what this business must be like, I find that a bit offensive.
My advice: Ladies: lowering your rates and giving discounts is not something you really want to start.
Respect yourself, give good service, treat and be treated with respect. Try to have a good time with it all. People will want to see you and will come back again and again. If they are the type to 'share' with their friends; YOUR PERSONALITY and the comfort/fun you provide will be all the incentive they need.
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WOW WOW WOW....would you want a complete stranger passing you around or friends of friends....You guys are NOT the brightest lights in the Harbor wow... Unreal
Udo are networking saw that below and good luck with your new venture ! Hey, bring lungman in on it too . He can sell their underwear outside the incall like a souvenir shop ! I'm sure the girls are going to like this idea ! Although Alice may be interested .
but I always screen. I have had many guys give me references when they were pm'ed by other hobbyists. If that person mentions a person that I know VERY well gave me a good reference I might give the referring person some extra time if it is available and depending on my schedule. I have rarely given discounts at all and then I screen extra heavy as that puts me in the easy fruit range subject to interest that I do not want. I always give my dates my undivided attention every time so I believe everyone I see gets more than their money's worth.
Now she gets it. Smart business women....How do you think good businesses are successful....yep...Through networking and referrals. Some women play smart and understand business and others just don't they worry about what the friends will talk about? WTF? How about she was amazing and I can't wait to fuck her again? That's GREAT for business !! If you think I'm wrong...I need to hear this? WOW
helped a couple of ladies out.
Got a few to tour where I live and they've done well with the guys I've referred to them.
The only bummer is, I wasn't able to see them while they were here...LOL.
One lady offered me a session where I just pay for the room. Still waiting to partake of that one. (she hasn't been working much lately )
Another lady is going to give me a reduced rate when I see her.
FID, on at least one occasion you lied to a provider, telling her that I highly recommended you.
NO WAY!.. Hell, you have been on my ignore list for over 2 years...
Get Real!
The Vet: Keyboard Warrior? Maybe. 11B. Documented
you know that when both the Dungbeetle AND FIDIOT come down on the same side of an issue that it's going to be the WRONG side.
and I take it no one is surprised that either of these losers are out to get freebies, and/or discounts.
Good post Vet,
The Vet and the Gambler: Keyboard warriors? Perhaps.
The Dungbeetle and FIDIOT: lying losers? Definitely!!!
Unreal....I see referrals all the time and make referrals all the time....Networking is the best. It also lowers the risk to the providers. If the women likes me and I refer a good friend....it's a win win and lowering the risk for the provider.
Your so smart, your my hero!
but it's "you're" with an apostrophe, which means "you are" not "your" which is the possessive of "you".
I know this is a job for the CunningLinguist, but he appears to be elsewhere occupied.
and the good news is, you are still the odds on favorite to win the SPOTY's, despite FIDIOT's latest run at the title. My money is still on you, you are still the stupidest of the stupid IMO. Go Dungy Go!!!
Now please post some kind of really weak, really lame response and do me proud.
And your ( as in, you are ) an English major now.....you truly are amazing!!
There aren't that many more days left in the year and "you're" losing ground for the SPOTY award. After all the hard work you put in this year, it would be a shame if you were to lose out at the eleventh hour.
Nah, I've got it rapped up.
Just another trophy in my trophy case that will be collecting dust.
According to The Cunning Linguist, the correct word is "wrapped." GaGa, lay me some odds whether Dungy is capable of ever making a single post that doesn't contain at least one grammatical error or misuse of language. Dude needs to go get his GED.
we would have to set some type on minimum word count, otherwise even he might be able to post "lol eom" without making too many mistakes.
Of course in his case, he might actually get G-E-D wrong, so let me work up a morning line.
that your buddy FID never responded to the Vet's post about FID's misrepresenting his references.
but is enjoying watching The Dungbeetle make an ass of himself once again. In a battle of wits, he is unarmed. Now watch as he posts another booger video.
I talk to no one in the outside world about this. Some know limited versions like me meeting "a porn director" or "my sex deprived friend" and "my cute friend who I happened to have had sex with." Only way I could see doing something like this is if I felt I owed a guy and sent him a lady, but in most cases I wouldn't want the guy to know what was really going on.
WHY? are you embarrassed ?
Certain people get to see certain parts of me. If I were a street pharmacist for example, very few people would know that.
A Friend wanted to meet a Woman for Fun. I called my Provider and set up a meeting for both of them. My Friend has never done this type of thing. So he was Nervous about meeting her. I said, we'll both see her at the same time. Called my Provider and she was good with it. Me and my Friend did a Double with her. It was Great. I paid for the Session and she even gave me a bit of a Discount for me and my Friend. Will probably set up another Double with her in the Future.