So, I have this friend... He decided to try a duo for the first time. He picked two girls who were already friends. Both had very nice individual websites. In discussions with one, who indicated Greek was available, he indicated he would like that. Upon meeting them, they were both lovely. One was a clear favorite because the other was a tad more zoftig than her pictures. Early in the introductions, one asked how many times would you like to go? He indicated that in the time allotted, he was likely good for four. (He'd never been asked this before.) The girl, impressed, indicated then that they needed to get busy.
The session went well, until right after the first cup. The girls then spent 40ish minutes talking amongst themselves, practically ignoring him. He was ready to go after about 10. The second round, once it finally got started, went fine. Yet, no Greek was offered. And the time had expired.
Overall the girls were nice, and performed admirably. One, he thought looked like a true 9. The other, a solid 8. Because of the factors listed above, he rated the experience as a 9/9. Seems totally fair, perhaps generous to me. Yet one of the ladies is clearly disappointed it wasn't a 10.
Who has the unrealistic expectations here?
Ask for Greek during the session and get denied or was it just not offered up? The first scenario means she lied, but the second is not really grounds for getting upset unless he specified prior that he also wanted her to be the A-levels aggressor.
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Why didn't he just speak up and say " ok I want to Greek this time or let's do Greek now, while the second round got going. And four times in an hour is a bit much.
Tell him he is the client. He is paying them. So his complaining about how long they talked is TOTALLY on him.
They were just acting human and having a good time. The boss in the situation....you....er, I mean your "friend"...needs to man up and be responsible for the time
I will say this: who the hell cares what they think? It's his experience, he wrote how he felt he was treated. If they wanted a 10. They should have come thru with their menu offered.
Disappointed? He should be the one disappointed.
That's my honest opinion. The only scenario where I think we have a saying in a review is if the review has malicious intent.
maybe an 8/8? 4 pops is good, but maybe when you showed up and had to prove you were 18, the game changed for them. Hey, you live and learn, right. But it was you who allowed the gals to ignore you for 40 minutes. I find that hard to believe. Are you sure they weren't pleasuring each other during that time? Do you wear glasses? That could have been hot!
Unprofessional, yes. That's where you reflect that clearly in the review. You didn't give them a 9/9 did you? Sounds more like 8/7 ...
You also didn't mention the length of the session. 4 pops is quite a feat in an hour, anal or not. I'm also unclear if you actually talked to the anal gal before booking or just traded messages. Details are too easily missed or 'ignored' in print. Special arrangements need more clsrification. Rules, limits, and what's off the table.
Better luck next time. Seriously
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Ha... good questions. My friend and I were just cracking up about this. Let me fill in the blanks. Two hour session. The girls chatting where just doing that. They were sitting apart from one another. The discussion of anal happened before the meeting, as did a discussion of anything 'off the table.'
Interestingly, he's in discussions with the duo again. They're apparently determined to earn his 10. So... maybe everybody wins. I'll let you know.
you and your friend, you mean you and your peter
Interestingly, he's in discussions with the duo again. They're apparently determined to earn his 10. So... maybe everybody wins. I'll let you know.
of course they want the 10/10, whether it is deserved or not. Herein lies the bullshit with reviews. If there was no scoring and all the info went into the details, maybe, just maybe things might settle down...okay no they won't, but it was a fleeting thought.
I think ure right. If the written review had no scoring system. Then each person would read the review and would make up his own mind about it. Reviews are subjective. The review may sound hot but then you see the score he gave them and that seems to override whatever he wrote lol. Funny
For years, I wasn't VIP and didn't read the juicy (?) details. Very, very few disappointments.
Scores and who did the review is usually enuf. I have go to guys whose tastes resonate with mine. Like a favorite author
to figure out which duo you are talking about
what is the real purpose of this post?
I wondered if someone might jump to that conclusion. But... nope. Genuine inquiry here.
actually..........if he is being truthful..........the providers in question, promised something they did NOT deliver. Bad form, very bad form.
Second point; does not matter if we are talking about work appraisals or provider reviews. Human behavior is subjective (beauty lies in the eye of the beholder). It is difficult to assign an objective value (numbers) to a subjective activity (human behavior). Hence, there will never be a perfect system and there will ALWAYS be cases where the parties involved do not see things the same way.
Opinions, just like my post.........are like assholes..........everyone has one!
Exactly. And just for the record, I don't like the numerical system either. Even if you're objective like I was in a similar recent situation and gave a 9/9, in just about any school... that's an A. Still, because someone doesn't get a 10, they (as in my friend's case) feel defeated? That's ridiculous, right?
and second if this was probably your "friend's" swan song why do you care?
And why do you care if they are unhappy with the score?
Ha! Fair question. My swan song was just that. I'm kinda done. He, on the other hand, brought it up to me in our discussion of recent experiences. And we were debating. I decided to open it up for conversation here.
are you asking for a friend?
LOL I don't have any friends
I'm just waiting for guys to start using SWIM someone who isn't me frequently in their posts.
TER's numerical review system works a certain way. Here are their rules for scoring Performance:
"In order to keep our performance ratings consistent, we set up the following system: An escort provider is only eligible to earn up to a 7, unless she is willing to perform one or some of the following during a session: Kisses With Tongue, Bare-Back Blow Job, Really Bi, and Anal Sex, or More than One Guy. For each of these services that are offered, her potential max score is raised by one point, with 10 as an absolute maximum.
This does not mean she earns extra points for offering the service(s); just that she is now eligible for a higher score. Her maximum eligible score is based on what is offered, not what is performed during your session with her. You may or may not be interested in the “extra” services she offers, but the fact she offers them makes her eligible for the higher score.
If your review rates a provider higher than her maximum score, the score will be adjusted down to her maximum."
So they could not get a point for Anal Sex and if they did not get three points in the other categories they would not merit a 10. Still, it's possible if they Kissed With Tongue, BBBJ and gave each other girly sex. If they did all three (or at least offered) they were right to be disappointed with a 9
can OFFER anal, BBBJCIMNQNS, eat her girlfriend out and give her DFKs along with toy play, ignoring a paying john altogether who was supposed to be an active participant, the focus or their undivided attention, receive none and the escort can earn 10 for performance?
And then be pissed with a nine? Excuse me a bit if I've embellished a wee bit, lol, but that's what your post seems to imply. To me.
Better read the rule book some more or I won't get the in-room observer job I just applied for. I get 20 points for not touching!
If I get 500 pts, I get a free copy of Jack's "How to Negotiate with Hookers" in hard cover.
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Besides and the rules say is she qualifies for that score. It doesn't say you have to give it to her if you don't want to.
I love "Uncle Remus.
i don't think they were "right" to be disappointed with a 9.
as you yourself quoted, afro, "this does not mean she earns extra points for offering the service(s); just that she is now eligible for a higher score."
to me, if the girls offer bbbj, kiss with tongue, girl on girl action, but was talking 3/4 of the time without paying attention to me, there's no way she gets a 10.
just my opinion.