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team_rocket_qwerty 35 Reviews 13 reads
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I would not sweat it. I know it could be frustrating but expecting everyone to answer you is unrealistic. I would agree if you said it's not nice for a biz to do it but nonetheless.

There could be a million of reasons as to why no reply and if you really want to see that person you could explore alternative forms of communication. But if that also yields no response, you're not gonna force them to respond or anything.

Just my two cents.

I would say, and probably some will call me a time waster - I don't like to offer extra info about myself if I don't have to.  

While it's good to be forthcoming, there might be a possibility saying too much about yourself (ter status, race/nationality) is the reason why she did not reply. There are many who are picky so the less things you provide that could be red flags the better. At least imo that way you can remove some of the other possibilities (ie if you don't tell her you're wast Indian you won't have to wonder if she didn't reply because you were east Indian)

So...that is the whole point of this post. Just hi. Hello. Hey. Why do guys send messages like this? I respond to every message I get, even these, but I know many providers do not. Is this to "confirm" the provider is real? Boredom? The initial contemplation phase of booking a provider? What would be the point of sending a one word message? What is trying to be accomplished? I do not get these super often, but I would say about once a week. Half the time I will get a vague response back, the other half no response. Seldom does this person book an appointment.  Providers and clients please chime in!

I think it’s rude to reach out without providing any information I require when contacting me. As a professional provider who has spent lots of time, and money into building a brand/business the least you can do is read the content before emailing. If you read the providers fantasy reviews, and website before ever contacting them that’s an excellent way to see if you may have chemistry. I do reply to all my emails personally because I am 100% independent. I have $100 unblocking fee for those who continue to contact me & don’t respectfully read my entire website. I truly believe you never get a second chance to make a good first impression.  

Smile for me! 😊Excellent post. I hit the like button. Wishing everyone a happy weekend!

Thanks for your input, and I agree, it is a giant waste of time. I used to send pretty detailed responses, but now I just send "how may I help you?"  
Still a response but the ball is back in their court as to how they want to proceed and my sanity is still intact.  
Have a great weekend!!  :)

gtfo21 reads

Posted By: QueenBia
I have $100 unblocking fee for those who [b]continue to contact me & don’t respectfully read my entire website[/b]. I truly believe you never get a second chance to make a good first impression.  
If they "respectfully" read your website? Could be some folks (not saying me) read some of it and roll their eyes with all the self-important shit on there?

Why website.. I roll eyes at every single post of hers..  lol

I said I respond to *every* message, so here is your response back!!!  :)

RespectfulRobert20 reads

Mental illness, bots, extremely shy, trolls, etc. I think we tend to think everyone who ever contacts us, be it in the RW or this one, is a person probably generally well adjusted. Can you even fathom the number of anti-social men with little to no interpersonal skills that the addiction and overuse of smart phones and computers has created? It's a massive problem so the reasons for "hi" or "u avail 2nite?", to me personally, are numerous and sadly, quite understandable.  
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Personally, I would never respond to just a "hi" from a total stranger but that is me. You see fit how to handle these things in your own way.

The anti-social and no interpersonal skills I think is a really good point you made. But because we as an industry function underground I don't think it is really common knowledge how to even approach sex workers. I think there is still this misconception that this is like dating but just using money. I can't even imagine the anxiety guys must feel if they are trying to hook up on regular dating apps and after getting rejected I can only assume the self esteem gets pretty low.

RespectfulRobert24 reads

...one of its biggest casualties was the demise of the Newbie Board, which TER refers to as "FAQ for Newbies." In its heyday, it was a fantastic place for guys (and new providers too) to learn about the business from the ground up. Among the many things it covered was the importance of a clients initial interaction with a provider.  
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Many other topics were discussed there as well, and gents received advice from not only veteran guys, but directly from providers as well. It was a treasure trove of info.  
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Now, people come into this demimonde with less tools and experience to draw from than before and it is sad. No, that alone wouldn't have solved every problem you encountered, for as we discussed there are many reasons as to why men send abnormally short or bizarre first contact texts/emails, but its existence did help thousands of people over the years navigate these very treacherous waters of p4p.

Once in a while, it is by mistake. I use several different devices / GUIs / email programs and on one of them, there's a common keystroke that jumps the cursor to and highlights the [Send] icon (unintended). "Enter" can then send the message before it's finished. HOWEVER!! I usually follow up with an apology ("Sorry, I hit send by mistake.") and the rest of the message.

Posted By: RespectfulRobert
Re: I have a few answers for you.
Mental illness, bots, extremely shy, trolls, etc. I think we tend to think everyone who ever contacts us, be it in the RW or this one, is a person probably generally well adjusted. Can you even fathom the number of anti-social men with little to no interpersonal skills that the addiction and overuse of smart phones and computers has created? It's a massive problem so the reasons for "hi" or "u avail 2nite?", to me personally, are numerous and sadly, quite understandable.  
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 Personally, I would never respond to just a "hi" from a total stranger but that is me. You see fit how to handle these things in your own way.

I dont get how you can assert anyone has mental illness all from saying hi to a business.

The other possibilities you listed are fair, but mental illness?
Just because people talk and behave in a manner that is foreign or not easily rationalized, doesn't make them mentally ill.

 
Whats next, assuming they are sex offenders?

RespectfulRobert23 reads

Scarlett asked why someone would send her a one word email/text as an initial contact. I merely suggested it as one of any number of possibilities. A large number of the general population suffers from mental illness. Why would this lifestyle be any different?

And I’ll tell you why. I Wanna make sure she’s still alive.
I’ll see old reviews or profiles on sites that haven’t been updated in months or sometimes in years. And if she’s even still in my area..She caught my eye.. but is she still around??? Who knows  
So instead of me going through this whole long intro about me and what I’m looking for.., I’ll send out a flair. Hence the “Hola”. If she answers with the “Hi” back , then I’ll spill my guts  
See… does that help??

Thank you for your response. So my question would be why not then just say "I saw an older review/ad for you. Wondering if you are still available in XYZ"?  
I would say at least 75% of gals don't even respond with the message of just "hi", so you very unlikely are even going to know if she is still in your area.  
The internet is a weird world and obviously we are all still trying to understand human behavior while trying to navigate it. There is obviously some motivation behind the "hi" , so I guess for me at this point I will still respond!!

The number belongs to say a family woman, or some innocent by standard. Remember, its been awhile since she's been active and the number might belong to someone else. Then they'll get the "I saw an older review/ad for you. Wondering if you are still available in XYZ"?  could you imagine the conversation?  
I've had those conversations and my reply has been the "opps, my bad..sorry"....Hence the occasional "Hi".

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I think there are much better approaches than just saying "Hi" or "Hola chica". I can see that easily being ignored and/or blocked regardless of it being an indie or an agency.

 
It's easy enough to send a generic message that wouldn't come across as inquiring about a provider. "Greetings, I haven't seen any sign of your recent activity so I thought I'd reach out to see if you're still in the area" or something similar.

See… does that help??
For most of the women you’re sending your “Hello’s” too, you’ve helped to ID yourself as a time waster.

This is the first impression you’re giving…  
From an agency’s viewpoint:

Just got a text message saying "Are you working today?" Even as an agency we get those kinds of text messages all of the time. No introduction at all. So all of the Hi, Hello, are you available bullshit just gets ignored and deleted. Even after 18 years we still get a whole new generation of time wasters who could never in a million years get screened. The more things change, the more they remain the same. N-E-X-T!

I get it, you don't play in my world. Now I would NEVER do this to an agency...I know better.

They change is up a bit:

 Quick question...

 
Remember me?

 
Our date...

 
Been a while...

 
And so on ad nauseam.   They are always spam because no one that I give a fig about would ever title an email or even a text that way.  They go right to trash without a moment's hesitation.

 
My guess is that a lot of people are susceptible to this, and as the old saw goes, if only one in 10,000 grab the bait, it was worth it.

...if you're getting 3-4 per day from actual providers, then you must have contacted a massive amount of pros from your work email.  I've likely emailed maybe 200 pros over my career and I don't think I've ever got a single random and unsolicited email.  I think you need to rethink how you are doing this!  

He clearly said that they're spam. I get similar texts all the time on my real phone.

One of my (free) emails gets spam and phishing all the time. The email company COULD do better filtering but they want me to pay extra for their filtering. (I just delete and block ... but new ones keep coming.)  
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All of my other emails are much better at filtering out the spam for me.  
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HELPFUL SUGGESTION:
Check your email settings. Many have relatively easy ways to set up your own filters:  
Example: "If subject contains 'beautiful women who will fuck you for free - link inside' then send to spam folder and block sender."

Posted By: holystonethedeck
Re: why in hell do 100's of hookers have your work email...
He clearly said that they're spam. I get similar texts all the time on my real phone.

These are just everyday nuisance emails from people trying to see something.

 
The emails I get from the escorts I know are far more interesting.

Rafl25 reads

Not something I do. Why as a potential client I reach out nicely and don’t get a response at all. Just the way shit is I guess 😝

Venting your frustration?  No wrong answer here.  But I don't think you'll ever get to the bottom of it.  Just decide you are going to reply asking details or ignore.

Neither, I think I would go with confusion? Just trying to better understand the male psyche and their motivation behind this. I am a "just in case" provider so I think I will continue to respond, but you have no idea how many times I just want to respond back with "WHY did you just send a message saying hi?" Unfortunately though I think most guys are not really going to know either why they did and just say they don't know. Such is life....

I also accept text messages and frequently experience the same thing via text. “Hi”, “hey”, or “what’s up” are all popular introductions. Responding to same may be followed with a “how are you?”, then maybe 1-2 more mundane pleasantries before the conversation dies. Once in a while these exchanges include a question about my services that is answered on my site, in which case I send the link and that’s the end of the exchange. It’s rare to never that the “hi guy” turns into an actual appointment.

Just got a text message saying "Are you working today?" Even as an agency we get those kinds of text messages all of the time. No introduction at all. So all of the Hi, Hello, are you available bullshit just gets ignored and deleted. Even after 18 years we still get a whole new generation of time wasters who could never in a million years get screened. The more things change, the more they remain the same. N-E-X-T!

Tell if it's an introduction, or testing to see if someone will respond. However someone who have done their research and see that you're  an established provider should never make such a lackluster  introduction.

The poorly worded emails that you get and end up responding to, in grand scheme of things, cancel out the properly worded ones that we send and never hear back from the provider.  Go ahead and keep responding in order to keep the balance in the Universe intact.  The Universe loves balance.  

 
This is an actual email I sent.. Personal info is redacted.  Never heard back from this person.. Great reviews on TER BTW..  

 
Hi  xxxxxxxxxx-

My name is xxxxx.. I am a 43 yr old gentleman of East Indian descent from Northern Va. My TER ID is SinCitySinner. I came across your profile on TER and would love to see you.  

 
However, Annapolis is a bit of a hike for me.. I wanted to ask you if you ever venture down south to Tysons Corner or Frederick MD.  

 
You can reach me at 202-xxx-xxxx  Also feel free to drop a line on TER PM.. This way, you can be assured I am who I say I am.  

 
Sincerely,  
xxxxxx

 
OK Jokes and sarcasm aside, I don't see value in responding to low value emails.  But i do expect that reliable providers with good reviews would take time to responding to well put together emails.  But hey.. Run your shop as you please..

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? Does she require you to share your ethnicity?
 East Indian decent maybe she’s prejudice…

? Does she advertise touring those areas you’re inquiring 🤨 are you prepared to sponsor a tour? Maybe she doesn’t tour…

? Does her website state she accepts TER as verification?  Maybe she doesn’t care for entitled TER guys…

Red flags 🚩  

I would at least respond with a link to my website at the very least because that’s professional.

Where exactly did you learn to start a sentence with a question mark ? LOL

 
It's important for me to provide ethnicity because some people are prejudiced. Even if they are not it's good for them to know the guy they will be meeting is black, brown, white, asian.. what have you !! At least I think that way..  
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This is the information I provide.. I play by my rules and I play on my own terms..  If you want additional references feel free to get back to me and I will send them to you..  I don't want to unnecessarily bother those I have seen in the past with reference requests. If they ask me for a little bit more than what I have provided, I will play..  

 
If my 20+ yrs of reviews and posting history is not good enough for you to ascertain that I am not LE and a threat, then I don't want much to do with you anyway.  

 
If they start asking about my drivers license and linked in profile etc..  FUHHHGETTT BOUT IT !!

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If you don't want to give your information that is fine and completely up to you, but why are you wasting provider's time by contacting them if they require it? You are asking why the provider did not respond to your message because you said you were very polite, but what do you think the average provider is going to think if they do actually log on to TER and read all of your posts? Obviously we all know you are a real person, but I am absolutely befuddled by guys who post derogatory, mean, rude and slanderous things about providers and then are confused when providers refuse to see them. Thinking that your posts will actually help you see providers and for them to feel comfortable seeing you is mind boggling.

The thing is that you don't even know the provider in question. So how do you know what she wants and don't want.. You are just speculating..   The provider did not have any such specific instructions on her site.. It's a pretty generic site of a low profile provider.    

 
Also you are putting way too much weight on someone checking on the site and not wanting to see me because of my posts. Sure there are some that would fall in the category, but a lot of them don't give two fucks.. I have actually asked couple of regular girls if they actually read the boards, and they told me that with having to run their business and raising kids, they don't have time or interest.  Go figure..  Then there are those who want to see me because they find things i say interesting and how I say them, appealing. As opposed to the drool drippings of obsequious spineless mongers.  

 
Here is another angle you might want to ponder on...   Have you ever considered that a lot of hobbyists would be writing you off because of your posts?

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You asked the question of "why did this provider not respond?" You were given multiple reasons, several you did not want to hear because they were directed at your behavior. 420 Eva gave you almost the exact same response yet you only gave push back to the two providers that responded, myself and Bia. Why do you think that would be?

She hasn't registered on my radar as worthy of pushing back... YET !!  

 
I will push back on her when I push back on her..   As stated earlier, I make my own rules on how to deal with people - both on the Internet and IRL.

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420Smoka4Eva24 reads

If your stance is "my way or the highway" don't be surprised when providers take the highway. You might think a TER ID should be enough but you're not the one sucking dick for money (plus you probably wouldn't get tons of offers anyway). Sharing your TER ID might be a liability too. They might actually read your posts and see how your treat providers on the board. Some providers don't just screen out dangerous clients and LE, they also like to screen out unpleasant and demanding clients. Don't expect people to be flexible for you if you're unwilling to be flexible. Your original e-mail probably didn't get a response because she doesn't want to travel an hour to see a client and/or b) she has specific instructions/procedures for booking and screening that you aren't following. Some providers are tough, unless an e-mail has all or most of the screening information they request up front.

Thank you for your response. Are you asking her for an outcall? Is that a service she provides? Does she require screening information from the first email? Does she prefer you text her? And I hate to break it to you guys, but there are very few providers that care about your TER ID nor do they utilize it for DMs. Also there are a segment of providers that if you even mention you are active on here that is an instant no go for them. Does this provider require a deposit? Obviously I am just speculating all of this so there are a lot of different directions we can take as to why she did not respond. There are also providers that unless you give a specific day/time/location they are not going to respond either. You were polite in the message, but we have a lot of unanswered variables as to why she let it go to the wayside.

She has email published.. So who knows she prefers text... Why publish email then to begin with.  I might shoot her a text in a month or so to see if she responds.  

 
Nothing on her website suggested that she was averse to information  I provided..  

 
I wanted incall and was expecting that she could visit the area of my preference and get hotel. Lot of providers do that around here if they get more business. It's a common business practice.  If I would have found reliable and willing to communicate I would have gone up to Annapolis, which is about 70 miles from me, down the road.  It's a nice place to visit in the summer.  

 
Regardless of the details.. Just no response is not a good idea - business wise..

I would not sweat it. I know it could be frustrating but expecting everyone to answer you is unrealistic. I would agree if you said it's not nice for a biz to do it but nonetheless.

There could be a million of reasons as to why no reply and if you really want to see that person you could explore alternative forms of communication. But if that also yields no response, you're not gonna force them to respond or anything.

Just my two cents.

I would say, and probably some will call me a time waster - I don't like to offer extra info about myself if I don't have to.  

While it's good to be forthcoming, there might be a possibility saying too much about yourself (ter status, race/nationality) is the reason why she did not reply. There are many who are picky so the less things you provide that could be red flags the better. At least imo that way you can remove some of the other possibilities (ie if you don't tell her you're wast Indian you won't have to wonder if she didn't reply because you were east Indian)

There are a few reasons that some guys, like me, prefer to play in the area we are comfortable with and TER has a large enough playground to stay delightfully entertained in.  I will share my handle when traveling and have had phenomenal luck in using it and avoiding invasive screening and at the of the day...everyone is happy.  This is of course, combined with traditional references.  There is a sweet spot, at least for me that relies on seeing veteran providers who will vouch with other veteran providers and it works because most of them are mature.  So, TER isn't always bad...unless you try and use that over on X or a few other platforms that are filled with women that you might not want to see or much less, trust.  Filled with wonderful women too, just easier for the baddies to rebrand and start over.

Finally someone who has common sense and can see both sides..

gtfo25 reads

Even in a professional environment like work, I ignore anyone that just sends a "hello" or "hi" or any of that shit. Send your fucking traffic.

I see it as disrespectful, laziness. What, you can't even form a whole sentence? What a waste of time.

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I think the largest message this is sending is lack of commitment. There are many many reasons why. But in all likelihood, someone who sends a basic simple minded message like "hi" is almost certainly not committed. They probably have some level of interst, but have not really put thought into it. So, when you write them back, they may actually first start thinking about it. It's you who triggers a step that for other guys is a natural step they take before sending you a message.  

 
There are a ton of guys who look at ads and take this step without sending a message to the provider. And many of them come to the same conclusion as the person who sent you a simple zero thought message. While you heard from Simple Joe, there are thousands of men who gave a lot of (or some) thought to booking you, but in the end never even sent you a message, likely for many of the same reasons as the Simple Joes who never wrote you again even though they did initiate contact.

 
Heck, I was that guy for awhile. I looked at ads for years and never tried booking. I had various reasons at various times. One of the biggest was being scared. While my first message was more complex than "hi", it was also much more simple than messages I send these days. It was probably one sentence, something like, "Hi, I saw your ad on XXX and I'm interested." I was scared, I had zero experience booking, there was no instruction manual, I was not on a forum that provided some guidence, and I wasn't even sure if I was fully committed.  

 
My hit rate when I started was less than 1/2 of the providers I wrote would respond. I'm guessing because my messages were so simple. Over time, I got more complex with my messages. My hit rate now is probably 85%-90%. I have learned how to approach a provider. But to expect a noob to be crafty is a lot. And, to expect every noob, or even half of them, to know what to do next or follow through when you respond to their simple messages, is probably expecting a lot of them. I will say it does help if you make this clear in your ad and provide guidence. In those cases, you can at least fall back on the fact that the joker didn't even take the time to read your ad.

I pretty much answer every email and text personally or via auto-responder (shortcuts on iOS are a game-changer). However, after a while, I definitely streamlined things a bit and created template messages for common inquiries, etc that I either keep in my drafts (emails) or notes (texts). And if someone asks something specific, I can tailor my response to fit the context. It's been a time-saver!

When it comes to texts like “hi,” I’ve learned to be blunt but still polite. I’ll respond with something like, “Hi! Thanks for reaching out. Unfortunately, I can't do much with just 'hi,' so to make this easier for both of us, could you provide the following details: your first name, preferred city of meeting, date of meeting, time of meeting, duration of meeting, incall or outcall.” Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t, but when it does, I've ended up meeting some great clients.

It’s definitely about finding that balance—when to engage and when to walk away. And hey, some of those “hi” texts have led to some interesting and long-term connections!

You definitely appear to be a true professional operating as a professional business person.👍
Communication, communication, and communication  almost beats “The Deed”  NOT!!!

If I had to guess, I’d say that a lot of these are kinda socially inept guys who are not good at conversation, and this may be their first foray into the sex business. Maybe they’re just testing the waters and not actually looking to book an appointment yet, but they’re in the “thinking about it” stage. They are probably unsure exactly how to get to the awkward  topic of sex for money—do you get right to the point? But that seems so direct… do you beat around the bush and hope that she knows why you contacted her and will lead the conversation? Maybe they are a little intimidated with what they are considering going through, and think it would be a little easier if they go slow, build a little rapport with a warm woman who will “hold their hand.”

 Email lends itself to longer messages, but I can see for texting, maybe they are looking for more of an initial back and forth.  So the first thing you say when greeting someone is often “hi [name]”. Followed by a hello back. And then maybe a little more back and forth about who each person is, what they’re looking for. Maybe it seems too blunt or impolite for them to just say it all in the first message?

I’m not defending this type of interaction, just guessing what is going on in their thought process. I agree they are going to have a low response rate, and rarely if ever successfully meet up with a provider with this approach. They probably don’t realize how busy you are and how this comes off as a huge waste of time. I imagine after not getting responses from this, a lot of them DO change their approach and will start including more info in their first message. Do you get any responses to the “How may I help you?” I am curious if you do a little more back-and-forth if you will eventually get to what they are wanting and an appointment.  Or maybe the conversation drops off and they quit responding?

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