: TER General Board Discussion : No I don't think they are mutually exclusive at all.

JohnyComeAlready 2315 reads

posted 11 years ago

1 / 16

Men, do you believe sex work is a mainstream occupational choice for women, or an alternative lifestyle... and choice of income?

Women, do you believe men who seek out paid companionship, is a mainstream lifestyle choice... or an optional endeavour... and source of entertainment?

I encourage the audience to respond with a bisexual analysis.

... or a one size fits all unisex response.

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 673 reads

posted 11 years ago

2 / 16

This is a real question.

My OPINION at the stage of seeing it right now, is that women in the life do have an alternative lifestyle in the same way that a member of a motorcycle club has or a musician has. I don't know if choosing the profession or endeavor CAUSES women to enter into a subculture as a survival move, or if they enter a subculture centered around sex and erotica and then take up sex work. It's an unpopular topic, but trafficking is something I'd definitely call a lifestyle. As well as those who enter the trade through being trafficked. Others who choose to go into it, I would think, have to do so knowing that they will have to make many big lifestyle changes.

So if that conclusion has integrity (and I'm not sure it does, at least not in all cases), then the men who engage in the activity also venture into the subculture to some extent (like being on this board), and so it is a lifestyle choice for them as well.

All the clients pay for sex with beautiful women, are mindful of the same risks, regard discretion and privacy in pretty much the same way, and such. But, in most other ways, your "alternative lifestyle" may be entirely different than mine.

During the 60's and 70's a lot of us LIVED an alternative lifestyle and were DEFINITELY embedded in a subculture. It wasn't something we could do on weekends after working at a bank Monday through Friday. So this comparison makes me uncertain that my present conclusion is invalid.

Maybe it doesn't matter what you call it. A musician is only a musician when he's playing music, and a biker is only a biker when he's on his bike. So...what does identifying people in terms of lifestyle really mean?

Posted By: JohnyComeAlready

Men, do you believe sex work is a mainstream occupational choice for women, or an alternative lifestyle... and choice of income?

Women, do you believe men who seek out paid companionship, is a mainstream lifestyle choice... or an optional endeavour... and source of entertainment?

I encourage the audience to respond with a bisexual analysis.

... or a one size fits all unisex response.

mrfisher 111 Reviews 465 reads

posted 11 years ago

3 / 16

Don't you mean buy-sexual? In any case, yes on 1. eom

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Leon3798 52 Reviews 542 reads

posted 11 years ago

4 / 16

Comparisons

Its really hard to make a comparison of this nature, because if I say A, then some butt hurt person is going to scream B! and vice-versa. I dont have it in me on a Friday my friend.

JohnyComeAlready 581 reads

posted 11 years ago

5 / 16

buying/purchasing was factored in to my poll

The reason I used the term bisexual - of, relating to, or involving both sexes...

Was that I wanted to include both sides of the financial transaction. Gender is completely interchangeable as not every sex worker is always going to be involved in the actual sex, that is being purchased.

Example - a porn actress has participated in the sex on film. While everyone behind the seen, which can include everyone involved in the actual production of the film. All the way to the individual/s who made the film capable of viewing to the end user/consumer... and unless the end user is physically with the porn actress, that person is not having actual sex with the lady on screen.

I don't want to digress to far from my broad range inquiry, as my post isn't about pornography per se. I just wanted to use the most culturally/legally acceptable medium possible.

edited forgot the link

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inicky46 61 Reviews 659 reads

posted 11 years ago

6 / 16

My analysis: You are certainly bi-sexual.

And regarding the analysis, in your case the emphasis is on anal. As in catcher

MasterZen 33 Reviews 635 reads

posted 11 years ago

7 / 16

I don't think being an occupational choice AND...

an alternative lifestyle are mutually exclusive. So, I think it may well be both.

JohnyComeAlready 454 reads

posted 11 years ago

8 / 16

True, you are only doing what you are doing while you are doing it.

However no matter how well a person can compartmentalize what they do it is still a component of their life.

Whether those decisions are based out of choice or necessity is what I find debated.

Example question: Are your choices made in relation to necessity, or are your needs met by the choices you make?

Posted By: WickedBrut

My OPINION at the stage of seeing it right now, is that women in the life do have an alternative lifestyle in the same way that a member of a motorcycle club has or a musician has. I don't know if choosing the profession or endeavor CAUSES women to enter into a subculture as a survival move, or if they enter a subculture centered around sex and erotica and then take up sex work. It's an unpopular topic, but trafficking is something I'd definitely call a lifestyle. As well as those who enter the trade through being trafficked. Others who choose to go into it, I would think, have to do so knowing that they will have to make many big lifestyle changes.

So if that conclusion has integrity (and I'm not sure it does, at least not in all cases), then the men who engage in the activity also venture into the subculture to some extent (like being on this board), and so it is a lifestyle choice for them as well.

All the clients pay for sex with beautiful women, are mindful of the same risks, regard discretion and privacy in pretty much the same way, and such. But, in most other ways, your "alternative lifestyle" may be entirely different than mine.

During the 60's and 70's a lot of us LIVED an alternative lifestyle and were DEFINITELY embedded in a subculture. It wasn't something we could do on weekends after working at a bank Monday through Friday. So this comparison makes me uncertain that my present conclusion is invalid.

Maybe it doesn't matter what you call it. A musician is only a musician when he's playing music, and a biker is only a biker when he's on his bike. So...what does identifying people in terms of lifestyle really mean?

Posted By: JohnyComeAlready

Men, do you believe sex work is a mainstream occupational choice for women, or an alternative lifestyle... and choice of income?

Women, do you believe men who seek out paid companionship, is a mainstream lifestyle choice... or an optional endeavour... and source of entertainment?

I encourage the audience to respond with a bisexual analysis.

... or a one size fits all unisex response.

JohnyComeAlready 511 reads

posted 11 years ago

9 / 16

This is a message board.

This post will most likely be here for eternity, come back and reflect on/contribute to the conversation at your conveyance.

JohnyComeAlready 523 reads

posted 11 years ago

10 / 16

No I don't think they are mutually exclusive at all.

I find that the business of sex in exchange for _______ is much more of a mainstream lifestyle than an alternative lifestyle

JohnyComeAlready 570 reads

posted 11 years ago

11 / 16

You should stick with the well reviewed ladies. (eom)

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WickedBrut 27 Reviews 472 reads

posted 11 years ago

12 / 16

Another good question that I can't give a definitive answer to, not even for myself.

Our choices are made based on a very wide variety of goals and values. When those values are in conflict, we (I) sometimes make a choice that later is viewed as a mistake.

But as that applies to the OP question, do the women in question choose what they do strictly for the money (or tangible material gain), or do they chooser a LIFESTYLE rich in excitement, power exchanges, risk, and the thrill of living a double life (subterfuge)? Like I said, at this point I lean toward the latter. I'm interested in what other views I'll see in this thread.

Posted By: JohnyComeAlready

However no matter how well a person can compartmentalize what they do it is still a component of their life.

Whether those decisions are based out of choice or necessity is what I find debated.

Example question: Are your choices made in relation to necessity, or are your needs met by the choices you make?

Posted By: WickedBrut

My OPINION at the stage of seeing it right now, is that women in the life do have an alternative lifestyle in the same way that a member of a motorcycle club has or a musician has. I don't know if choosing the profession or endeavor CAUSES women to enter into a subculture as a survival move, or if they enter a subculture centered around sex and erotica and then take up sex work. It's an unpopular topic, but trafficking is something I'd definitely call a lifestyle. As well as those who enter the trade through being trafficked. Others who choose to go into it, I would think, have to do so knowing that they will have to make many big lifestyle changes.

So if that conclusion has integrity (and I'm not sure it does, at least not in all cases), then the men who engage in the activity also venture into the subculture to some extent (like being on this board), and so it is a lifestyle choice for them as well.

All the clients pay for sex with beautiful women, are mindful of the same risks, regard discretion and privacy in pretty much the same way, and such. But, in most other ways, your "alternative lifestyle" may be entirely different than mine.

During the 60's and 70's a lot of us LIVED an alternative lifestyle and were DEFINITELY embedded in a subculture. It wasn't something we could do on weekends after working at a bank Monday through Friday. So this comparison makes me uncertain that my present conclusion is invalid.

Maybe it doesn't matter what you call it. A musician is only a musician when he's playing music, and a biker is only a biker when he's on his bike. So...what does identifying people in terms of lifestyle really mean?

Posted By: JohnyComeAlready

Men, do you believe sex work is a mainstream occupational choice for women, or an alternative lifestyle... and choice of income?

Women, do you believe men who seek out paid companionship, is a mainstream lifestyle choice... or an optional endeavour... and source of entertainment?

I encourage the audience to respond with a bisexual analysis.

... or a one size fits all unisex response.

WickedBrut 27 Reviews 497 reads

posted 11 years ago

13 / 16

I'm not playing Conan or after his job, but I think "bi-gender" might've been a better choice.

Also, the reason I compared providers to musicians, is that I know a few musicians, and some only land six or eight gigs a month usually. They need to make a living, and they want to make as much as possible. But performing attracts applause, they see their music making people feel good, women find them attractive so they find sexual partners, and they get to play with other musicians and communicate in their special language. And they love music. THAT is a lifestyle choice for sure.

From comments on this board, I don't know about providers. Some say they are only in it for the money, but surely some of those must have some money by now, nevertheless they are still in the life. So...?

Leon3798 52 Reviews 526 reads

posted 11 years ago

14 / 16

Re: I think it all depends on how you

Thats a very good comparison Melissa. Makes you go hmmmmm.

Posted By: SweetMelissa

define choice.. I made a choice to do what I do.. Part of me feels like it was the only option.. My friends and family would tell you that what I do is not mainstream and that I do have a choice..

On the other hand...

I know several ladies and college age girls that put out often and with many random strangers and do not charge a dime.. and I this is the norm in society and expected behavior of young single women.. So I guess you could call that main stream..

Somehow when I become picky about who I see and want to increase my income to pay bills it is illegal and not mainstream..

Try and figure that one out!!!

Even when we decide to do nothing we have made a choice...........

Lolita_NYC See my TER Reviews 564 reads

posted 11 years ago

15 / 16

Optional

Optional endeavor though I think the line between lifestyle and optional endeavor is thin.
Some guys seem to get pretty addicted once their cherries popped

JohnyComeAlready 562 reads

posted 11 years ago

16 / 16

I see what you are saying. (eom)

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