I have had a few gents contact me who were newbies offer to meet in public first.
I have declined those requests for me personally that will not work a meet in public in lieu of references/screening does not work for me.
I need to know who I am meeting first if info cannot be provided by pm,email,phone,or my website then we do not meet.
As london said you can still get in trouble if the person you are meeting is not on the up and up regardless if you say anything or not.
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just to assess compatibility or as a prescreening (maybe you don't want to give screening over internet, but are ok doing so in person), would you go on a pre-date like this? Have you done so?
guys: Would you go if the rate was the same as her 1hr date or would it have to be at least $100 less than the normal rate?
ladies: have you ever done this and did it work well?
thx everyone!
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This is why the "meet me at a coffee shop" is not screening. You are booked on INTENT not actions. I've seen a ton of busts go down where NO discussion of sex or money ever came up. They are usually thrown out of court, but you spend the night in jail. I would screen them FIRST, then offer a dinner only/no sex option. In fact, I do this for couples.
It sounds like you can be busted, but is that only if you say certain things? If those comments (like "yes we'll have sex") aren't mentioned, would they still arrest the lady? I'm interested.
thx London.
If the guy is a cop, you're busted for "intent." Even though escorting is legal, your website or ad with rates is enough for them to bust you. Now again, the charges won't stick in most cases, but who wants to spend the night in jail? I saw one go down in Baton Rouge where the girls were literally cuffed walking in the door...never even saw the damn guy/decoy.
It depends on the area, the cops and other things but in general it's the intent that gets you. Showing up is enough. You are cuffed before saying a word.
and pay for her time just to meet her. UMMM. NO!
beforehand to get a sense of her personality and that she's actually hot in the face (you've already seen her body on her site), you pay let's say $300, meet her and assess compatibility. In some cases, I see these ladies use this as a screening option.
Would you still say no? thx
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I've seen what WotW is talking about, but I'd rather take the gamble with her hourly rate, or two hour rate if she has a minimum.
Of course, the gamble is based on what I read and if there are some common interests
would you do it?
Yes, I see it a lot. It makes me curious as to how and if it really works. It sounds like though it might not be a popular option or safe.
And how would that be saving?
Paying for her pre-date fee + paying for her hourly rate VS just paying for her hourly rate.
Yes, I see it a lot. It makes me curious as to how and if it really works. It sounds like though it might not be a popular option or safe.
Say a gal charges 500 per hour and the meet and greet is 100. She takes that 100 OFF the regular rate when you meet. I don't do it that way, because it's still 3 hours of my time being used to meet a person for only an hour.
That's a pretty neat idea.
I think it should only be reserved for clients who are verifiable and not for newbies without references.
a real BCD (behind closed doors) date, that $300 will be applied to it." So instead of paying $600 for the BCD date, the $300 from the predate you previously had w/ her is applied to the separate BCD date (scheduled on a different day from the predate). So when you show up for the BCD date, you bring only $300. So you've met twice, once for drinks and to assess compatibly and then for a BCD date, but in total you only pay $600 ($300 for the predate, which is applied to the BCD date which is typically $600). I hope it makes some sense to you though. I started to get confused as I typed it out! lol ![]()
Would I do it? Yes.
Why? Because it's equivalent to BCD time + OTC time, but for the price of BCD time only.
I've seen this a very few times on websites. She requires a meeting in nearby public place (e.g. coffee shop) for ~15 minutes (she may charge like $100 or so). If you "pass" this compatability test then you go ahead with the "date."
I have had a few gents contact me who were newbies offer to meet in public first.
I have declined those requests for me personally that will not work a meet in public in lieu of references/screening does not work for me.
I need to know who I am meeting first if info cannot be provided by pm,email,phone,or my website then we do not meet.
As london said you can still get in trouble if the person you are meeting is not on the up and up regardless if you say anything or not.
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You mentioned not doing it with a newbie.
What if it's a hobbyist who has references and is verifiable?
I have declined those requests for me personally that will not work a meet in public in lieu of references/screening does not work for me.
I need to know who I am meeting first if info cannot be provided by pm,email,phone,or my website then we do not meet.
As london said you can still get in trouble if the person you are meeting is not on the up and up regardless if you say anything or not.
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Even if he is not a newbie and I verified him I am not meeting first to see if he might want an appt.
If he is verified and we have set an appt and he wants to meet first for drinks before BCD I have no problem with that.There is a difference between a public meet where the gent wants to see what you look like first or wants to speak to you first and then he will make a decision if he wants to proceed from there with an appt.
Versus him just wanting to meet downstairs to have a drink first and small chit chat before heading upstairs.
The few times I have read on the boards about guys want to meet they usually want to meet free or a very discounted rate or the amount of a coffee or cocktail.
Hey,if it works for some ladies that is fine but just not for me.
I have seen packages on some providers websites where they offer a public meeting no BCD for a lower rate than her usual hourly rate.But,I always assumed that it was for the gents who just want to have drinks or small meal with a provider or catch a show and does not want any private time.
I could be wrong only the providers who offer those type of packages can define those terms.
Women are very hard to please as if we didn't know that, and I INSIST on an hour or so to get to know her, and should they decide NOT to play afterwards, I was compensated for that meet and greet.
or maybe it's a chance one takes in those rare circumstances
No, they are verified BEFORE I meet them. I do this for the woman to be comfortable an see if we connect, NOT to screen them. In the case of couples, I want info on BOTH parties, or we are not meeting. Many times a guy will be the only one with valid employment and the woman is a stay at home mom. Well, I can't screen "stay at home mom" without some serious information on her, like a background check with a "past" employment history.
It worked out fine for me. I don't see time as dogmatically as some. I like people and meeting new ones.
Samiam
whether it's free or I had to pay. I read the providers ad, web site and reviews, and then contact her. End of story! This strategy so far has seemed to work pretty well for me. I have no issues with being screening, and if I do, I simply move on.
guys: Would you go if the rate was the same as her 1hr date or would it have to be at least $100 less than the normal rate?
ladies: have you ever done this and did it work well?
thx everyone!
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ur asking as a hobbyist if I am willing to arrange a "pre-date" to assess compatibility or as a way for me to be screened?
First, on compatibility. What am I trying to accomplish here? To spend an hour to see if we have something in common (a love of the planet Saturn, Charles Dickens novels. or the James Garfield Presidency perhaps?) so that I can then go back home and eagerly book another hour session so that we can then (finally) have sex?? I am not cultivating a long term dating relationship here. Whether or not the lady and I are going to be "compatible" should be determined within the confines of my hourly session (Not beforehand in some meet and greet). In the course of the 10 minutes or so of get to know you banter, the 15 minutes or so of sex, in the 10 minutes or so of recovery chatter, the next 15 minutes or so of round two sex, and finally in the 10-15 minutes of after round two/getting dressed chatter, I can easily determine if I want to see her again. I don't need to "pre-date" her just to then go on a second (sounds like we are really dating here) session later. A complete waste of both our times (and not to mention my wallet)
Second, on screening. You think ANY reputable provider is simply going to meet a hobbyist for a cup of coffee/drinks, whatever floats their boat, without having screened him first? Come on. The lady MUST do all her screening prior to any face to face meeting.
If a hobbyist wants to test compatibility (i.e. sit with a lady and talk and NOT have sex), its his call, but it should be treated like any other session. It's not a "PRE-Date"; its an actual date. That means that the hobbyist has been fully screened and that he is paying the provider her regular hourly rate (you are paying for her time so if you want to have the session out of the bedroom, your call).
love talking shop, exchanging war stories. Yeah it would be great fun over drinks but again, only if was OTC.
for screening, and to decide if I want to see them, and I dont pay them until the end of the actual date. ![]()
who I was thinking of when I first read this question.
Do you buy the frosty before or after? ![]()
Over the years I have seen just a handful of ladies do this.
Two different ladies would not book with you unless you met for dinner first. One would bring her husband would bring her husband, as they were also swingers. Both were OTC deals. as they should be.
Another, booked 3 hour dinner & desert dates for $600. If after one hour, either decided to opt out, the fee was $100, date ends, no hard feelings.
The others were drinks for a modest fee, something like $50 or $60 for a short meet which is also reasonable.
The concept of paying full rate is so outrageous... well, there are no words to describe it, really. Only a moron would pay a full rate and only a gold digger would expect it. (Your post is a perfectly reasonable, and my comments here are not directed to you or your thoughts in any way.)
I would do this and have twice. In fact I think its an outstanding idea - OTC. I wouldn't mind a small amount to help cover the lady's transportation costs, and I would pick up the tab if any, because we would be one-on-one. Beyond that, why would I pay one provider for the same experience I get with many providers gratis at a working party or a M&G?
I would not do it for free. My best experience of the year was with a lady who I had nothing to talk with about. And London is correct about the threat of arrest. The police require only probable cause to make an arrest. Which in reality gives the police wide latitude to make an arrest. If they are trying to bust someone they want to lock up, a major drug dealer, they will be more patient in gathering evidence before they arrest (and the suspect shuts up and hires an attorney) so the DA can get a conviction. Regarding the hobby, the arrest itself (and subsquent embarassment) is the end goal. If its a sting and you show up you are going downtown. Even if you only wanted to talk.