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Nice deflection BPos . . . .
coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 206 reads
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So I got your number on the White List claim, don't I?  You had a provider from years ago put up a Whitelist for you so you could come on here and claim you can still get a boner, you're not back to being too obese for sex, and you somehow miraculously cured your fish breath.  I'm betting if I PM Carla, who corresponds with CDL often, she will confirm that your "new" whitelist is for a meeting from years ago, not a new appointment.  You do realize by trying this stunt, you have just PUBLICLY  confirmed everything I have been saying about you is true, right?  You are such a moron.

 
Nice touch that the "authority" in your link is a troll who  has been banned from two other boards in the past, was part of the LEOG that was busted in Seattle, which effectively shut down the Kgirl operations for a few years there, and was too stupid not to be on LE's radar.  You are known by the company you keep.  If you want to discredit YOURSELF, hang around with others who have been discredited.   Maybe you're not a moron, just a retard.

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I filled out a providers booking form about a week ago, got an auto response, then a bit later a email from her saying she'd reach out to my references and to let them know and she'd get back to me. havent heard anything from her since. I've responded to let her know my references were expecting her message, then today to touch base. It's still about 2 weeks until the requested date, but Im surprised i haven't gotten a confirmation that we're set, or that things won't work for whatever reason. I'm not going to spam her inbox, but I'm not really sure how to proceed, as it's getting to where I need to know one way or another. She's been active on social media, so not sure what to think.  she has good reviews and no alarm bells are going off so do want to give her a chance. thinking waiting a few days more before messaging again. at that point im torn between calling it off or asking if everything is ok?

is still two weeks away, its a little early to assume something negative, especially since you don't know where the holdup is coming from.  She may have done her part, but your references are slow to respond because they are busy.  Nothing is more irritating than for you to push her when she may have done HER part, but the delay is caused by your references not doing THEIR part in a timely manner.  If you are really that antsy this far out, I would suggest first asking your refs is they have responded to her request.  Your next step is dictated by the answer you get.  IMO, you never want to look desperate to a provider you haven't seen yet.

Just a general comment: When providing references, it's a good idea to contact that person in advance to make sure that they are available to do so. Some Providers have a time window for providing a reference: only if they saw you within the previous 6 months or 12 months. Some Providers need to be reminded of who you are so they don't tell the new Provider, "Who? I have no idea who that is." If you email or text the Provider you have seen before, jog her memory and make sure she will be able to provide the reference you want, i.e., favorable.  
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If you did NOT alert your references that New Provider will be contacting them for a reference, now could be a good time to contact them and ask if so-and-so has contacted them yet. Apologize for not giving them a heads-up about the reference request and maybe ask that they contact New Provider directly, on your behalf.

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
Re: Since the requested appointment . . .
is still two weeks away, its a little early to assume something negative, especially since you don't know where the holdup is coming from.  She may have done her part, but your references are slow to respond because they are busy.  Nothing is more irritating than for you to push her when she may have done HER part, but the delay is caused by your references not doing THEIR part in a timely manner.  If you are really that antsy this far out, I would suggest first asking your refs is they have responded to her request.  Your next step is dictated by the answer you get.  IMO, you never want to look desperate to a provider you haven't seen yet.


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GaGambler224 reads

He CLEARLY said he told her his references were "expecting" her inquiry. Please keep up IMP and please quit advising people to do things they quite clearly have stated they have already done.

 
BTW this goes to both you and CDL, but mainly to you as you pull this kind of crap all the time when people ask for advice, not a fucking lecture about things they already know how to do.

 
Back to the OP, it's "possible" that she simply doesn't like to do her screening this far out from a potential appointment, or that she's just bad at customer service like some other posters have suggested. I would give her another couple of days and then send her something like this

 
"Dear Suzy rottencrotch, I don't mean to be a pest, but unlike most clients I have to make my plans quite a ways in advance, please advise as to the status of our date as I have to have confirmation by xx/xx/2020 in order to make my other travel plans. If you need additional information please feel free to ask, if there is any kind of snag, please let me know so I can make other plans"

 
If you don't hear back from her by the date you mention, I would simply move on and contact another provider. Personally I HATE making plans this far in advance, I have noticed the further out you make plans in this business the higher the rate of cancellations on BOTH sides.

I have always found people are much more open to accepting and following the advice when I suggest they do what they already did.

As might be expected as many just don't want others giving advice, more than a few get upset but clearly were listening and doing as I suggested. ;-)

GaGambler233 reads

Someone will post "I sent her a polite email" and the first response will be from some moron like IMP who will suggest to him  "Why don't you send her a polite email?"

 
IMP is one of the worst at this kind of crap, it's not helpful and it's kind of insulting to the person asking for advice.

I get that. I often wonder at myself at times about little things I could just ignore that just end up bugging the crap out of me that I have to do something about.

Anyhow, a little attempt at humor is not going to help I suspect.

Sit tight for now. Give her 3-4 days since you have so much time to go. Hit her up softly then and just say "Hey are we still on for such and such date at such and such time? Cant wait to meet!"

 
Give her 48 hours to get back to you from then, and if still radio silence, I would go on record with her and cancel. Some girls are so overwhelmed they tend to only address sessions they have in the next 24-72 hours, or they could just be busy with a million other things.  

 
I can understand her being on her SM can be a bit of a mind fuck, but in this business you really have to let that go. Many girls don't view it as them indirectly signaling/ignoring you, as SM is just a way for them to blow off steam, chat with buds or market themselves.

 
CDL makes a good point about contacting your refs, but I would only do that if you know them well. If you have only met them once or twice, I wouldn't drag them into it,  but that's just me.

...You filled out her booking form and she responded with an email.  Then you sent her two emails and she didn't respond to either of them.  Maybe she thinks she has plenty of time to respond because the requested date isn't for another two weeks, but she should realize that it's important to you to lock down the date.

 
If you're going to a decent size city where there are plenty of fish in the sea, I say move on if you haven't gotten a response to your "touch base" email within 24 hours (you said you sent it today).  A third straight email would smack of desperation.  A sometimes wise man has a mantra that he lives by:  "I will beg for pussy, I will pay for pussy, but I will not beg to pay for pussy."  This is one time you should listen to him.

John_Laroche224 reads

Posted By: Mstrchf117

...as it's getting to where I need to know one way or another... thinking waiting a few days more before messaging again. at that point im torn between calling it off or asking if everything is ok?
Well since she hasn't confirmed, technically there's nothing to call off. Just give it those few more days and let her know you have a hard deadline, otherwise you'll assume it's a no-go.

 
Don't assume it's anything other than her poor business management skills. If it was, she'd take the 30 seconds and tell you.  

...an email saying:  "Since I haven't heard from you, I've made other plans.  I'll try you again when you're not as busy." (no I won't - for me it's one strike and you're out).   It's not surprising that after they get my cancellation email, only THEN do they respond trying to make the original date.

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back in the day when you were still seeing providers.  Sour grapes usually got a response.  How it just gets a laugh from the provider.  

...You can't fake whitelists like you can writing reviews for K-girls.  Stick to those cheap, bottom-feeding hookers who are one step away from being trafficked whores.  The woman who whitelisted me charges twice what your low-rent K-girls charge and she's never desperate enough to do BBFS like those infected K-girls do.  Stay in your lane bro - that's all you can afford.

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You reviewed her four years ago, and now you ask her for a whitelist and she gives you one. I can think of a dozen indie providers that I saw OVER five years ago that would whitelist me NOW if I revealed that I was CDL and asked them to.   Your claim about a new whitelist proves nothing.  Now, if you can get Carla to post on this board that she just saw you this year, and what a stud you were, THAT might be more convincing.  If you pay her enough, she just might do it, even for YOU.  Bwahahahahahahaha     (Oh, and I've seen Carla, so I know how much she charges.  She just can't figure out which one of her customers I am.  Lol)

 
Again, you prove you know nothing about Kgirls.  You couldn't get screened to see one no matter how hard you tried.  Telling them you are BPos would just make it worse.  Your reputation proceeds you.  Your post just reeks with jealousy.  Sorry you can't be me.  

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What part of "...cheap, bottom-feeding hookers who are one step away from being trafficked whores" don't you understand?

 
What part of "...low-rent K-girls" don't you understand?

 
What part of "...desperate enough to do BBFS like those infected K-girls..." don't you understand?

 
No, I don't think everyone here is stupid but I think YOU are incredibly stupid for saying that I want to see hookers that fuck up to 11 guys in a 13 hour work day.  And how many of those 11 guys had BBFS?  I've been saying for over 8 years that high-volume K-girls are disgusting and I have no desire to see them.  Apparently, you are too stupid to figure that out.

 
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/los-angeles-1/this-hobby-is-about--278632?page=

So I got your number on the White List claim, don't I?  You had a provider from years ago put up a Whitelist for you so you could come on here and claim you can still get a boner, you're not back to being too obese for sex, and you somehow miraculously cured your fish breath.  I'm betting if I PM Carla, who corresponds with CDL often, she will confirm that your "new" whitelist is for a meeting from years ago, not a new appointment.  You do realize by trying this stunt, you have just PUBLICLY  confirmed everything I have been saying about you is true, right?  You are such a moron.

 
Nice touch that the "authority" in your link is a troll who  has been banned from two other boards in the past, was part of the LEOG that was busted in Seattle, which effectively shut down the Kgirl operations for a few years there, and was too stupid not to be on LE's radar.  You are known by the company you keep.  If you want to discredit YOURSELF, hang around with others who have been discredited.   Maybe you're not a moron, just a retard.

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...of my post - that I refuted the contention in your post that I tried hard to get screened to see K-girls.  Talk about distraction and deflection!!!  you ran away from your contention that I tried to see K-girls like the little bitch that you are.  I'll give you another chance:

What FACTS do you have that I would ever want to see disgusting, 11 guys a day fucking, disease-carrying, non-English speaking, BBFS cum dumpster K-girls?

i.e., impotent, morbidly obese and with dead fish breath, that you would be up to fuck a corpse if you thought you could get away with it.  Beggars can't be choosers, you know.  Just think, you could tie a splint to your dick to keep it straight, and she won't complain, you could sweat all over her all you want without her complaining, and your dead fish breath is not going to offend a woman with "dead-person" breath.  Sounds like a winner all the way around for you.  Or have you given up necrophilia for Lent?

 
Your original question was "how do I explain your "current" whitelist?"  I think I did quite nicely.  Shall we invite Carla to post here to expose your little scam about you insinuating you saw her recently?  Or do you want to keep digging yourself into a hole that you're too fat to crawl out of?  Bwahahahahaha

 
By the way, I'm going to let you keep going on your Kgirl rant for two reasons.  . . . ..  1)  About a third of the guys here see Kgirls, and they know you're full of shit, and 2) About 99% of the people here, both mongers and providers, know racism when they see it, and you my friend, have it pretty bad against Asian providers.  Keep digging.  

"You are shaping up to look just like Once, who name-calls every time he has no substantive argument to anyone else's debate points.  Its pathetic how little ability you have to go toe to toe with the guys here on a debate.  Instead, you tuck you (sic) tale (sic) between your legs and start calling them names.  You should think about laying low until you can represent yourself better, lest you dig yourself into a hole from which there is no escape."

 
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/ter-general-12/another-complete-and-total-surrender-----961699?page=2

 
Yet you're so bankrupt of any intellectual ability that you can't go toe to toe with the guys (and gals) here on a debate.  Instead, you tuck "you tale"  between your legs and start calling them names.  You should think about laying low until you can represent yourself better, lest you dig yourself into a hole from which there is no escape.

 
Lent?  You REALLY are as stupid as black-panther!

YOU challenged me first with "How do you explain my new whitelist?"  (You were soooo proud of yourself and your little hustle.)   Well, I explained it, then you launch into your Kgirl rant.  Now if you want to debate me, then you have to stay on topic.  However, you never mentioned the whitelist again, because I was right.  It was a scam.

 
You decided you were going to counter the conventional wisdom here that you are washed up as a monger by concocting this "scheme" to try to fool everyone by asking Carla for a NEW whitelist for a date four years ago.  Who knows what kind of bullshit you fed her to get her to do it, but she did it.  So you challenged me to explain it, and I did.  then YOU change the subject and go off topic into your Kgirl rant.  At that point the debate was over, you had no more substantive argument.  I told you to invite Carla here and have her back up your story.  You didn't like that suggestion either.  

 
I exposed your public deception, now you're pissed.  You got what you deserved Big-Piece-of-Shit.  You should have stayed under your mickey mouse alias.   You can keep trying to bash me, and I will keep kicking your ass everyday.  Unfortunately for you, it never gets old for me.  You are a despicable human being, as many here agree, so you should just GFY, and do it now.  Oh, wait, you can't.  I forgot your dick doesn't work, even though you tried to fool us into thinking you saw Carla RECENTLY, when you didn't.  That was a bush-league move.  

 
Now I will challenge you to find a post where I attacked someone here who didn't attack me first, or attacked one of my friends.  You attack me, and I will hit back, as you have learned the hard way. I was here the whole 20 months TER was dark in the US.  You were too stupid to figure out how to log on from another country, so don't lecture me on "intellect."  Bwahahahahahahaha

...it just means you're a loser with no life, sitting around and having a circle jerk with the handful of other losers who were still here.

protest too much, methinks."        --W.S.

Posted By: coeur-de-lion
Re: Nice deflection BPos . . . .
 Nice touch that the "authority" in your link is a troll who  has been banned from two other boards in the past, was part of the LEOG that was busted in Seattle, which effectively shut down the Kgirl operations for a few years there, and was too stupid not to be on LE's radar.  You are known by the company you keep.  If you want to discredit YOURSELF, hang around with others who have been discredited.   Maybe you're not a moron, just a retard.  

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Anyone who tries to use any member of that dumb fucking "League" as a resource or an authority on kgirls is bloody stupid and pretty much lost any validity. Those "League" members were not only stupid as fuck for opening their damn mouths in public, but being hypocritical bastards as well. One of their stupid rules was to always have protected sex, but those fucks would beg and plead for BBFS or do the "if you give me BBFS, I'll give you a good review" bullshit. In the same way, anyone who makes as much of a big deal about BBFS as BigPapasan has is most definitely scheming and searching for BBFS providers.

...for 4 1/2 years.  Neither of you know a damn thing about Harpman (and Beemer310) on the K-Girl board.  I was posting on the K-girl board when it began 7 years ago.  I don't know a damn thing about Harpman after he stopped posting on the board in 2015, including his involvement in the "League."  If you and CDL don't want to look like you're talking out of your asses, which your posts certainly make you do, you should educate yourselves and go back and read the interactions between Harpman and me to see what kind of relationship we had.  Here's a clue - he once posted that he would have his chauffeur/bodyguard beat me to death.

 
As far as "scheming and searching for BBFS providers" goes, once again you need to educate yourself on my position on the subject before you make a fool out of yourself.  I have been consistent on the subject.  For instance, here is a post from seven years ago:

 
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion-boards/los-angeles-1/i-didnt-believe-all-the-bbfs-stories-ive-read-because-290994?page=

I'm from Seattle and I have first hand knowledge directly from mods, bookers, and kgirls about the "League." They're all assholes, plain and simple. They would have weekly meet ups at a restaurant and start talking, publicly and with families around, about the different kgirls they fucked that week. So yeah, anyone who is associated with the "League" are dumbfucks and anything they said is bullshit. And Harpman was talking crap... so funny he threatened you that his bodyguard would attack you. First off all, this is Seattle, not NYC. No one has a bodyguard here aside from athletes. The reason he posted here is because he knows if he posted on TRB that he would be called out for this bullshit.  

 
This is why I never understand why people try to talk more than what they know/experienced on a poon board. What's the point? There's enough people that have experienced enough that it's so easy to spot bullshit.

going to look like a bigger moron than you already do.  First of all who cares about YOUR interaction with Harpman. You are not a Kgirl customer, only a Kgirl board troll.  I wouldn't waste my time.  The only thing you and I will agree on is that he was a scumbag, but so are you.  Big deal.  Don't get wrapped up in your own alleged  self-importance.  

 
I interacted with Harpman on Adultfax for five years.  When AF, which was owned by Cityvibe had a falling out over allowing CV ad links because of their ownership of AF, a review site, Harpman saw an opportunity to exploit Kgirls and gain favor with bookers by creating his own independent website, LAKStyle.  It was a membership deal and you could only get in if existing members vouched for you.  I immediately started hearing form Kgirls how Harpman and his cronies were exploiting Kgirls.  They would approach new girls arriving and tell them that if they wanted to be popular and make a lot of money in LA, they would have to give Harpman, and his partners, BBFS in exchange for positive reviews and being promoted on the discussion boards.  Many girls fell for it until they realized that the endorsement of these scumbags did NOT drive more business to them, but just the opposite.  For the girls that refused, Harpman and his cronies would write hit-piece reviews and denigrate the girls on their discussion board.  Conversely, they would promote girls who weren't even here yet that were coming from other cities and were going to go along with "the program" of providing BBFS to the owners of LAKStyle.  I ended up helping a few of their victims get relocated to other cities to start fresh under new names with photos.  

 
After awhile, a small group of us that were disgusted at this type off exploitation and managed to infiltrate their organization.  We collected evidence from inside their website and wrote a blog exposing their fraud and abuse for all to see.  Its still on the internet and accessible by the public.  The link is below.  With the pressure of this exposure, the takedown of the LOEG members at the Seattle branch, and the feds seizing Redbook shortly after, these scumbags panicked and closed down their site.  The business has been a lot cleaner after their demise, although there are still douches that try to trade good reviews for BBFS, not just with Kgirls, but with indies as well.

 
So don't come on here and tell me because I wasn't posting on TER, I know nothing about Harpman.  You just make yourself look more stupid.  Nobody cares about your exchanges with Harpman,  You don't even rate a footnote in the Harpman story.  

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imanalias228 reads

She’s busy, or doesn’t care. Nothing wrong letting know if she’s not interested then ok, you will make other plans.

but pestering her would probably just annoy her and, well, it's simply a bad look for the guy.

I'd kick back and wait for her response in her time, until I could not wait for need of making other plans. Don't make up stories about why she hasn't responded yet - it's just a waste of your emotional energy and it is unfair to assume negative things about her.

I would contact her politely one more time, maybe a day or two before I had to have a solid commitment, and simply confirm that you are "on" for the requested date and time. Ask if she needs additional info from you to confirm, as well. Tell her you need her to confirm back in 24-48 hours.  

If no response is forthcoming when you need it, just make alternate plans.  

If she contacts you beyond the date you needed her to confirm, you have the choice of accepting or keeping on with your alternate plans. If you go with the alternate plans, keep it polite and friendly in your response; there is no need to give her a subtle rebuke by telling her she was slow to respond or that you have made alternate plans. In other words, don't try to tell her it was her fault you had to change plans or try to "school" her on responsiveness! Why burn bridges? She already knows what happened and why!

Finally, as someone else mentioned, respect the time of your references. Don't waste their time with extra emails asking if so-and-so contacted them yet.  

Good luck, and just relax while you give her time to do what she needs in order to confirm with you.

The details obviously depend on the particular requirements of both Plan A and B, but even the most scrupulous plans can fall through.

after a session, but then I realized it came from the bad breath of the provider who was sucking on them.  

Once-Is-Not-Enough216 reads

to go through all this, just for an appointment with a provider?  Clearly screening is good, for the provider and hobbyist as well.

 
But sheesh!  Unless you live in Antarctica and SHE is the only provider for 1,000 miles and you have not gotten laid in over 3 years, then this is a JOKE!

 
So many (countless) delicious, ladies who are responsive, and have learned to screen effectively, no matter your taste, without figuratively kicking you in the balls.

 
Time to move on to the next lady on your list.  Hasn't she ALREADY killed the mood for you and you haven't even met her yet?  You would be better served if you also weeded through some of the replies to your post, they are clearly out in left field.

I'm waiting until there's less than a week left before moving on, though I wont just blow her off. I dont need any drama.
Yeah, this thread has kinda become a dumpster fire, but it's sort of funny lol

This is an easy one move on to the next one. If you did a provider this way you would be considered a time waster. I see so many providers that fell like they are entitled, we provide them with the trips the cars rent and everything else they have if they don’t have a regular 9-5. I had a provider tell me this:

 I can tell you’re not used to my policies bc of the ladies you’ve seen in the past. Only 2 of them have websites or charge more than $400/hr. No doubt you’ve been burned by the backpage & adult search types.  

You obviously have not been exposed to the more high end side of the industry. That’s a shame and you shouldn’t judge a well respected and revered companion such as myself by the idiotic  mistakes of others who clearly are not on my level.

If you have not contacted her a second time for the update, then you should contact her for the update. If she does not respond, find somebody else and forget about it. What I do when somebody else doesn't reply to confirm is, "I assume you are no longer interested since you have not responded; therefore, I have not confirmed the date and wish you well in your search for a perfect companion."

If they don't respond, they're not interested.

Without a confirmation, the only thing pending is his "appointment request."

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