I'd use an alias too. At least someone here appears to have their GED. Maybe.
Is it me, or does this cancellation policy seem a bit extreme...?
Before I get into the story, one important fact - the provider is Latina and so is the assistant. The assistant didn't seem to speak the best English.
I booked an appointment for Tuesday lunchtime with a provider on tour through P411 over the weekend. When I walked into work Monday morning, I was informed I would be leaving later that day to travel to a client site to do "damage control." Crap, there goes my planned fun lunch tomorrow!
First chance I get I call her assistant and explain I need to cancel the appointment due to unforeseen work commitments. This was easily more than a 24 hour notice of cancellation. I then ask if there was any appointments available for later that day. I was told yes, but the times available were too early for me to leave work, and I told the assistant I can't make those times. What happened next kind of surprised me.
The assistant told me I would never be able to book an appointment with this provider again because I cancelled and didn't accept an appointment at a time I couldn't make! Huh???
I apologized profusely and said there must be a misunderstanding on my part. I explained I couldn't make the same day appointment at the given times because of the traffic.
Any of you in the Chicago area can attest that I-90 by O'Hare and west of it pretty much out to Elgin just sucks right now due to the construction. The available appointment times were during rush hour and I would be travelling that corridor.
After some back and forth of me trying to explain why I can't see her that day, and the assistant insisting I can't ever book an appointment again, I finally told her this is too much work and too much crap to deal with and promptly hung up.
So why would someone have this type of policy? Is it possible this assistant is doing this without the provider knowing? It would seem this is a good way to lose repeat clients if heaven forbid they need to cancel.
Have a cancellation policy on her P411 ad and/or website?
Some providers do have a cancellation policy in place for 24-48hrs before appt time.
If something comes up and a gent cancels for whatever reason they want a cancellation policy before trying to rebook another appt with him.
Was it possible to book another day or was that your only day of opportunity to have some fun?
I can't speak regarding if the provider does in fact know what her booker is telling clients but I would think that would have been discussed when you were booking the appt.
Majority of ladies who have cancellation policies make it very clear on their website and/or ads and might mention in correspondence so it is not a big surprise to the gent if a cancellation policy is expected.
Bummer...you could not work anything out
Some providers do have a cancellation policy in place for 24-48hrs before appt time.
Was it possible to book another day or was that your only day of opportunity to have some fun?
I've had two providers cancel on me within 2/3 hours of the meeting but if I had cancelled on them, I would have incurred a cancellation fee. I never tried to rebook because I moved on to other lovely ladies.
How do most provider's handle the other side of the equation?
I understand that things (life/work/family) happen for both clients & providers.
Regards, Myskyns
but it's a provider's choice, and if has worked for her than so be it!
I'm sure you've a list of others you'd enjoy just as much 
I'm sure you've a list of others you'd enjoy just as much
After I hung up on this assistant I promptly dialled the ATF and proceeded to have a rockin' good time later that day at a time I knew I could keep!
I hate to say it but most providers cancellation policies are really crazy. Sometimes people really just need to be understanding to each others situation. It seems you did go out of your way to make right by her so I would just take my business elsewhere.
If all you said is true then you did your best to keep to your word but it just was not going to happen so I see no reason why you should be punished for it. If this lady was making a special trip to your area from your request I would say you should compensate her in some way. I would just take my business elsewhere.
I understand the whole we are paying for there time and we could cost them money by cancelling but that is part of life/part of running a service. If a provider runs into a client that is a repeat offender of this then yes I agree enough is enough and you should be compensated. I REALLY doubt there is many/if any providers out there that would compensate you if something came up in there life and they had to cancel.
This was a great and informative thread. I have been hobbying for over four years and never did I ever even notice a cancellation policy on a provider's website--until now. I have never cancelled an appointment with a provider but had it happen to me many times. I now know that I will never make an appointment with a provider that has a cancellation policy like Alyson. Too many variables at play and the benefit/risk ration is all in the provider's favor as it almost always is. I think GaGambler has it right to make mostly same day appointments unless there is an understanding on a no charge cancellation fee due to unforeseen circumstances. You learn something new every day, apparently.
Like I mentioned in a previous post, I was able to see one of my ATFs later the same day at a time convenient for me!
Plenty of providers out there for the clients, and plenty of clients for the providers I'm sure.
Or we all wouldn't be here, would we...?
My policy is that I don't hold acknowledge or confirm an appointment until the client has paid a 50% deposit of the session fee online. It's billed as a consulting company for security and discretion. If a client informs me that that can't make it (it happens I understand) the only thing nonrefundable is the money they have already sent to me. After that they're free to reschedule as long as they pay the deposit again. I think this is reasonable and it helps make sure you don't have to deal with complicated and ugly situations like this. I still get some guys who are scared to use their credit card despite my assurances but I tell them to just buy a visa gift card. I TOTALLY understand that things come up that's why I just make sure my expenses are covered and then have no problem with rescheduling. In some cases where the client really did have a tough situation as long as they rescheduled and paid the next deposit I would return any money that I didn't use towards the hotel to their account.
Also, if I EVER have to cancel and I've received a deposit I always ask if they want to reschedule or would rather I refunded them entirely.
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I guess you want some moron to use a credit card to pay you for illegal services in advance.
Yeah...very discrete.
Also, if I EVER have to cancel and I've received a deposit I always ask if they want to reschedule or would rather I refunded them entirely.
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Yup, speaking of "morons"...I read, "I still get some guys who are scared to use their credit card despite my assurances but I tell them to just buy a visa gift card."
Guess that line was invisible ...
Yeah...very discrete.
Also, if I EVER have to cancel and I've received a deposit I always ask if they want to reschedule or would rather I refunded them entirely.
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That was the sound of a hundred guys putting you on their MUST MISS list. You have just lost every bit of good will you might have earned with yesterday's threAD
It's not that you are young, it's not that you are new, it's not any of those things that are keeping guys from seeing you, It's YOU!!!
so the only thing nonrefundable is EVERYTHING he has sent you. Are you on drugs? Good luck with that practice
I've actually never had much of an issue with it. I usually only spend about 100-200 dollars of the money so returning the rest is pretty simple. Taking credit can be a very convenient way of doing business and one that makes the date way more authentic. Most of my dates enjoy the convenience. It's not perfect but idk if you guys realize how many flakes there are out there. I would love to know of any other ideas though that would mitigate some of the risk of a last minute cancellation though!
U seem to be doing the right thing. Some people will like it. Some won't. Some people will put up with it for the opportunity to meet you, and some won't. I think of myself as very easy going and relaxed in my policies. I do draw the line at some point, but I'm sure some people would appreciate if I outlined more specifically my policies. But even with me being relaxed. I get the usual douche bags and time wasters (part of the business, I'm no even complaining). So we all do what suits us best. I personally don't bother with cancelation fees or whatever. Just too much hassle to chase after some jerk. I just simply go and list them as a time waster if I truly believe he was just out there to waste my time. Case in point: people will never be fully happy with how you present yourself and your expectations. So you might as well do whatever the hell you want 😊️.
If it works for you and you get from the hobby what you expect. Who is anybody to tell you that you fucked up or that you're too stiff Etc...The one thing I did find annoying was that your pics are behind a password wall. Bleh.... That would discourage me as a potential customer right away from seein you. If you're concerned about people recognizing you, take new pics and have them blurred. Or blur ur existing ones. But playing "go find my password here, then go there and enter it, then click here etc..." Now that's too much work. 😜️
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Thanks! I know what you mean about the pictures. I only use a mask in my pictures because I love having the emotions of the eyes come through in a good shot. However, I will start blurring some and putting a password on the rest so that more people can see my pictures because I've gotten a lot of flak for this. I'm definitely appreciative of all the feedback I've gotten on here... even the people who don't say it very nicely lol. It helps me discover new and better ways to do this!
Take a page out of the airlines....you want to check a bag, $35 please....you want a snack....$10 please.....you want to cancel because you are sick....you are screwed.
I have had to cancel do to flight delays/cancellations....and the occasional cold. I am very transparent with any provider I have an appointment with when I am flying into a city.
And speaking of lost money.....how much money would a provider loose if I gave her the flu and which knocked her out for a week. Think about it
For them to say they'll never see you again. Definitely glad you got to reschedule and have a good time! It's a tough balance though (as some of the blowback from my previous post proves). On our end flakes and cancellations can mean you can't even make any money. But on the other hand many clients don't want to feel overly punished for a mistake. The trick is trying to find just the right policy that makes sense for you and your dates but it's tough. Also, on both sides a little understanding goes a long way... after all most of us are just here to have some fun!
I'm so sorry that happened to you but you know what in hindsight would you want to see someone that doesn't even give a second chance WITH notice. Most providers charge a late fee or a cancellation fee. I think she went overboard with that one.
Best of Luck
you'll have plenty of business, and you'll enjoy it a lot more.
Like everything we discuss, there's no one right way. In my view, cancellations are an understandable hazard of the hobby. I've had to cancel, I've had prospective companions cancel...it can be unavoidable. So don't be a doormat about it, but deal with it positively.
It kind of goes back to the travel rate conversation....how "all about business" do you want to project? Charge and protect your time like a lawyer if you want to, it's your prerogative and there are plenty of guys that don't care about that...or don't know the difference.
Deposits and Cancellation Policies ain't honey....there are many fun, respectful, repeating client out there who smell "all business" and won't go near it. Uh...Yo! To each their own.
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I totally understand wanting deposits in order to protect against cancellations, especially if a girl is on tour. And it's true that other businesses do the same thing with not refunding deposits - hotels, airlines etc.
But I don't think of myself as a business like these. They are impersonal and serve massive numbers of people, so it doesn't matter if they piss off one or two with a lost deposit.
I see what I do as more like therapy and my therapist will always work with me on cancelled appointments as long as I'm not doing it over and over. We're building relationships with a smaller number of clients so the relationship is really important. Plus, the guys you want to see are going to have crazy jobs where things happen and they have to fly out last minute, or go to a meeting, speak at a conference etc. In my experience when a guy wants to see you he WANTS to see you, so only something dire will make him cancel, and if you let him he'll reschedule and you'll have a great time.
Imo and no offense to anyone but cancellation warnings are off-putting. I'd rather have someone make a tentative advance appointment than write me on the day of and then I have to try to screen him and get ready in an hour. Just my preference.
I will probably get bashed also, but i have recently added a cancellation policy when i am touring.
I visit LA sometimes 3/4 times a year, this visit i have to say was a complete pain in the arse when it came down to clients cancelling, even some of my regulars.
I do not see 3/4 clients a day, i am low volume, that's how i like it, but i had 6 cancellations, 2 rescheduled and 4 of these were NCNS, nothing, nada, not a god damn word from them.
They were all booked in advance, i screened them well, i took time out to keep them up to date and emailed back and forth with them, then on the day nothing from them, two of these dates were a 2 hour date and a 3 hour date.
Now are you really going to tell me that i should just take this on the chin, that i should take the loss and be ok with it?
Hell no, the few times i have had to cancel i have added on extra time.
Although my policy does state that a cancellation is only due if another date is not made within a 3 month period when i return.
Most guy's are really apologetic when they have to cancel, some are not, it's these clients that are a complete waste of our time and who do not respect our time.
I have huge outgoings when i tour, the flights, taxi's, taxes, hotels etc, it's not fair when some clients cancel or NCNS, i have even extended my stay to acommodate a date request without asking for a deposit.
And i love my job, i am super friendly and accomodating when a client does have to re schedule, but an email saying on the day of the date, 'can't make it' and nothing else is just plain rude and the NCNS, i have no words.
My cancellation policy is for these guys, not the clients who are respectful and legitimate in their cancellation.
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People have been critical of the specific policies that were related by the OP and another poster. I have never read anyone here argue that if a meeting required the escort to incur expenses in advance of a date, that the escort was unreasonable for requesting that money upfront. Quite the contrary actually.
For example, if an escort had to fly to a city to meet with a particular client. Or if the client requested a unique location that could only be used for that date. etc...
The issue here is not that. It is whether or not the burden of a cancellation in the course of regular business should be born by the client or provider. In almost every other area the cost is born by the provider of the service. Even in industries that have high cancellation rates. The burden is on the provider of services to adjust their business model in other ways to account for the cancellation rate.
The burden is with me, i agree to a point, but the only way of me not losing money whilst touring is to see 3/4 clients a day.
I can not do this, this is not my buisness model, that is why i chose to have a cancellation policy when touring. Obviously i can not enforce it, but any decent client will know the expenses i will have incurred and be happy to pay it or reschedule on my next visit.
You on the other hand need to put me over your knee and spank me
I'm not gonna bash you for your policy Shauna, you have a legitimate right to be put off with cancellations, you are coming from another country and are expecting a return on your investment for travel expenses. This is assuming you have NO other business reasons to travel to LA.
Maybe a suggestion would be to book more appointments with the odds being that 50% are going to cancel or NCNS, you know where your break even point is so it shouldn't be hard to calculate based on previous visits.
Thank you and no i do not have other business reasons to travel.
If i book more dates then it puts me at a level i am not comfortable with, between a cock and and hard place hahahah, love the pun :-p
If i take 3/4 appointments a day thinking at least two will cancel then i'm shooting myself in the foot, because if non of them cancel then i am pushing myself to a level i do not wish to be at.
If any of you know me then you will know how much i love *ock, but mentally and emotionally i am not cut out to be high volume.
Intimacy and connection are important to me, i can't do that if i'm seeing 3/4 clients a day, it would exhaust me :-
24 hours is more than enough time, that policy is a bit overboard and this assistant and provider will quickly find themselves having no clients if they keep that up.
We get it, you hate to lose on money. It took work, however sometimes things happen. I've had enough stuff like that happen at the worst time. I know of a company that if they cancel with less than 4 hours notice, they automatically ban them, block their phone, and email unless they are paying the donation.
I have seen wayyyyyyy too many times where a client will cancel and then I get a reference check from another provider for him, or they cancel with some excuse and then later I see them posting about a different provider they saw that SAME day, or they write a review etc.
Common courtesy cancellation.Escorts loses business cancellation
Stay clear of cynical people she obs doesn't have screening or accepts amy call to be let down so often.