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My views and thoughts...
CelticLass 2741 reads
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To touch on a couple of comments you made. My father lied about his age and joined the army at 15. As they were about to ship his ass off to Korea the next year his brothers informed the Army he was indeed underage. They let him go and he then walked down to the Marine Corp recruiter and joined there. How that was possible I don't know considering this was some 60 years ago. He joined the Marines rather than work in the fields in Washington state as his mother had always done. It was an opportunity to learn a skill and have 3 hots and a cot and, yes, serve his country. Many join the armed forces now to get an education. My daughter hs considered it to apply for money for college and hopefully aquire the skills she will need to learn more about her chosen profession. Some join out of loyatly to their parents who might have been in the service. Others join to hopefully see the world and learn things that would never present themselves other wise. So yes there are many reasons.

One comment really burns me though antiphon. "My own attitude towards the young people in US uniforms today is rather like what I feel towards todays' crop of recruits into the Crips, the Bloods, or the Mafia." To in any way liken our military forces to the likes of gangs and organized crime is absolutely ludicrous (sp.) So we get rid of our military force, because the blood they spill will effect their chances in the here after. Or because it is none of our business what they do in their own countries. Do this and we will all meet or makers soon enough. How long do you actually think we will survive as a nation let alone a democracy without it? It is easy to sit back and make religious/political judgements against those who are making the deals, but given the power and responsibility of an entire nation, I am not so sure any of us would make descions that are any different. But we are not sitting in that Oval Office and I would never presume to have any idea what goes on there.

We don't know the whole story. We never will. I believe this to be a fact. I don't think they give us all the information and the Patriotic Propoganda machine works in high drive during times like these. But..even though I choose to not make public my desicion at this time as the whether I support or not support does not mean I do not wish these people to come home safely.

But I still think so many take for full advantage of the FACT, that it is easy to sit in judgement of those who have chosen the military and accept going to war as their path in life. But it is those ghosts that haunt many battles fields, those who lived and died for their countries and their beliefs that are exactly the reason you sit at your computer today and are able to have your say.

~Lass

-- Modified on 3/20/2003 10:13:31 PM

My god people, we're tearing each other apart here. What the hell is happening to us?? I can understand that we are all under a higher level of stress lately due to the obvious, but it seems that everything that is said lately sparks it's own little war of sorts, no matter who says it.

In the grand scheme of things, i know that we that read this board and enjoy it so much(usually anyway) comprise just a minuscule microcosim of society as a whole, but i would hope that there is still a relatively good cross section of people here. That being said, if it's happening here, want's going to start happening on the streets soon??? It kinda makes you wonder alittle before stepping out the door in the morning.

I do support our men and women in all military branches. Not because i do or don't feel any particular way about Iraq. How i feel doesn't come into play. I support them because they deserve it. It's the least i can do for the people that go to places i hope never to have to go and do the things things i hope never to have to do so that i may sit here and write this. Right or wrong has little to do with it to me, they get my neverending support because they chose to give there life for me if that's what it takes. That's all i'm going to say on the issue, and i only said that much to clarify that one thing for everyone who reads this.

Perhaps we could all try to reel ourselves back in alittle, or check our thoughts on certain things at the door alittle more and get back to the basics of what we are all here for in the first place?

While i don't post often, i do very much enjoy my time digging thru the site as a whole. But lately it has become it seems to remind me more of Jerry Springer out takes then The Erotic Review.

Yes,yes, i know......General Discussion should be just that, and maybe if the issues at hand were alot more cut and dried, it would be. We do all have the right to say what we wish, just as i am now. It seems lately that we are being hit with a lack of credible information while at the same time being flooded with so much of it that it's causing sensory overload. I know, that makes no sence at all, but it's the best i can put it at the moment. All of which adds to the confusion which may lead to fear which usually manifests itself as anger.

Maybe we can all try to get back to discussing the thing that brought us all here in the first place. The thing we all look forward to and enjoy so much. Hobbying!!!!!  :-P

That being said........let the flaming begin.  

Sweet Nicole4886 reads

Wow! a man after my own heart....I agree! Are we having fun,yet?!:)
Sweet tastes better than sour! Don't worry be happy! :)

qp43944 reads

Passed some young girls on a side walk today, maybe 13-15 years of age, waving peace signs and yelling peace slogans at motorists.  Thought I'd give it a try, so asked them what age they thought were the men and women out in the sand going to battle for us.  They answered 19-23, which I considered pretty perceptive.  I then asked how they will feel when 6-8 years from now their 19-23 year old boy and girl friends (and maybe themselves) might very likely be out in the same sand fighting the same battles against the same but far more technologically destructive enemy.  There these girls' perception died and they hemmed and hawed, and as I walked on I sensed a considerable drop in their peace slogan enthusiasm.  None of us know for sure the relative risk/reward of this thing and the right answer only will be written in the prognostigators' guesses as to what might be or what might have been, so like most big decisions there's an equally big risk.  All I know for sure is that we don't want to be on the losing side because political democracy and economic capitalism are inexorably linked and the former collapses without the latter into class warfare and eventually totalitianism.  I'm not a Bushy and believe the coup he and his Repub friends pulled was unforgivable, but on the issue of Iraq and like situations I agree with him.  And those young girl;s I passed on the side walk -- I think deep down they also now are more likely to.

qp43067 reads

Hardly debate, just asking them to think one step further than fashion and popularity.  One small step.  Interesting that they did it with little more than recognition of enlightened self interest.  Just like most of us and most of our leaders and most of other nations' leaders.  Sad but true, we must watch out for ourselves as well as being compassionate for others, cause no on is being particularly compassionate toward us.

foo3895 reads

Correction: With enough heat, and something shiny for the back.

-- Modified on 3/20/2003 2:21:38 PM

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