My regular at home is a 55y/o mostly retired UTR. She likes to gamble so every couple of months we make the 1 hour drive down south to New Orleans for a day and a half. Several years ago we worked out a deal, pretty much at her suggestion, that I’ll give her $500 along with paying for the room, two queens, and take care of meals. We do a BJ/DATY after checkin and then either late at night or in the morning. Usually we’ll also do the same when we get home. It works out great because once we get to the casino we’ll each do our own thing and pretty much only meet up for dinner and maybe a drink or two. Perfect arrangement for both of us.
I saw a girl pose a question on Twitter, something like asking providers if they'd take a vacation with a client if they paid for hotel, airfare, meals etc, but not her time. Most of the responses were 'no.' Talking about having to be "on" the whole time, spending every waking moment together etc. Didn't respond myself, as I didn't know the girl, seemed aimed at providers. But got me thinking as a client, wtf? Maybe it's just me, but I'd have to be EXTREMELY comfortable with someone to even ask that, if a provider, she'd have to frequently and consistently be spending otc time with me. I'd make it explicitly clear we'd be doing something like that as friends. I took my mom on vacation and didn't spend every waking moment with her, can't imagine doing that with a relative stranger. Maybe on my honeymoon, otherwise I want my alone time. Do people really do this?
And if so, what are her rates?
Sorry, off topic I guess.
But to your question, yes guys try this, actually thinking it's a vacation for the provider, so he shouldn't have to pay a dailyratetoo. I know a provider who would have said yes when she was new to the business, but has since wised up.
Otoh,I doubt that many clients expect the girl to be ON, 24/7.
Now doing a vacation with any stranger is a real gamble, p4p or civvie. I can't imagine putting myself in that situation.
I travel a LOT for work. I've had providers fly out to come hang out OTC. Typically I'll donate my miles for airfare since I got more than I'll ever use. If I'm somewhere for a significant time I'm usually in nice corporate apartments with multiple bedrooms. Or I'll use miles to get her a room at the same hotel. But beyond that purely OTC, not transactional, and no expectations. It's a gift to a friend not a barter. If we were to have a good time and end up in bed I'd still pay usual rate....this has never actually happened during a trip tho, always stayed platonic.
1) I've never really asked for them to come out. Usually it's like a "oh I'm have to be in Miami for 3 weeks", "ah bummer", "if you wanna come hang out for a weekend I'll take care of it but just as friends", "that sounds fun"
2) obviously this is with providers with whom I've got a good relationship and have spent time OTC, although I've had situations where a trip happened before any other OTC activity.
3) I make it clear I'm not paying for their time. It's an invitation not a request/booking/fmty situation.
4) not doing full vacation, I'm talking 2-3 nights max while I'm there anyway.
5) breaking from the fantasy and into real life is something that needs to be discussed. Any time I do anything OTC I call them by their real names, use their (presumably) personal phone #s, and there is no mention of our other relationship. Next time I book I use work contact info and name.
A gentleman I've been seeing for 5 years, proposed a trip together for a music festival down south. He paid for everything, my time + hotel + airfare + meals + uber/lyft ride to the airport and back. Honestly I was a bit nervous about it but I've known him a while and he's such a sweetheart, I thought what the heck!
So we did a 3 day trip and honestly I had a blast. We're definitely going to do another trip together, most likely something tropical so I can wear my tiny bikinis 
So yeah it's something I've done and would do again but only with a guy/girl/or couple that I really trusted and knew for a while beforehand.
But how did you calculate your time? Did you get paid for three complete 24-hour days??
Well my 3 day rate is actually right on my site so that's what it would be. However, he's a long time client (5 years now) and we worked out a slightly lower rate for the getaway. So it was more like 2.25 days for the rate.
A few of the gals I've seen over the years have always said that I'm an easy person to chat with. To the point where some have even opened up about themselves. An act? perhaps, but sometimes I ask what they do during their off-days. To my surprise, many literally don't have any friends to "hang with". I've always just wondered if asked, would they just wanna have a drink or lunch or dinner? Heck, even a SBUX drink.
I'm under no illusions of anything of the sort. I hear everyone screaming, "HELL no!" LOL
Many gals don't even do overnights, as it somewhat becomes more "personal". I get it.
Rather than the normal tip, I just gave a gal a bunch of SBUX cards, as she always enjoys her favorite drink that I pick up for her when I'm on my way to our meeting. Yes cold cash is desirable, but she genuinely enjoys the thought. A day after I gave them to her, she just texted me that she's using one of them now and thanked me again. A nice sweet connection beyond our normal sessions.
Not that I would even ask, as no matter how cold it sounds, we're doing a "transaction", nothing more.
But we're all human. Sometimes you open up to someone, especially if there is otherwise no one in your life?
Escorts are female (for this discussion) and females are hypergamous. Therefore like females, 80% are chasing 20% of males. If you aren't in the top 10-20% of males, they just aren't interested. If you are in the top 20%, you probably don't have to go searching for chicks to hang out with. They'll be finding you.
I've found that many providers don't have a ton of friends. Probably nature of the job. If I develop a good enough relationship that I would want to hang out with them on a platonic level I usually just tell them they can always reach out on off days. That way I'm not bugging them and it's their choice. Of course by the time I offer this we're already well acquainted and I'd say about 25% end up reaching out
I’ve actually discussed taking trips with providers and SBs. The room safe has never been discussed. I’m thinking that you REALLY trust the other person in order to commingle your property and share a code. Any thought, observations and criticisms?
I’ve actually discussed taking trips with providers and SBs. The room safe has never been discussed. I’m thinking that you REALLY trust the other person in order to commingle your property and share a code. Any thought, observations and criticisms?
My regular at home is a 55y/o mostly retired UTR. She likes to gamble so every couple of months we make the 1 hour drive down south to New Orleans for a day and a half. Several years ago we worked out a deal, pretty much at her suggestion, that I’ll give her $500 along with paying for the room, two queens, and take care of meals. We do a BJ/DATY after checkin and then either late at night or in the morning. Usually we’ll also do the same when we get home. It works out great because once we get to the casino we’ll each do our own thing and pretty much only meet up for dinner and maybe a drink or two. Perfect arrangement for both of us.
with a long time client. He paid for my airfare,hotel,food,and our activities.
We had an awesome time I did give him a slightly lower rate as I have known him for many years but he definitely compensated me for my time. Going with a client and not getting compensated for the time is not a vacation in my opinion but every lady is different. So a provider would have to be frequently seeing you OTC for you to ask her on this type of trip?
There are many providers whose rates are lower for multiple day rates versus paying by the hour
“Going with a client and not getting compensated for the time is NOT a vacation.”
To read this right… Layman terms.
Going with a client and NOT getting “paid” is NOT a “vacation”. Correct??? I’m confused.
I would think…. Going with a client and GETTING compensated (paid) would NOT be a vacation because he would own the Hooker’s (yes, I used the word hooker, but at least if formalized it with a capital H) time, there would be rules and restrictions on this so called working trip.. This would be called WORK not a VACATION.
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Going with a client (whom technically wouldn’t be a “client”) and NOT getting compensated (paid) would be a vacation due to the fact that the hooker, whom technically isn’t a Hooker (see what I did there) would be able to run free, relax and do as she wants without the rules and restrictions. This would be called a VACATION and not WORK.
Does the words or phrase “Soft Hooker” come to mind? If not sure what that is, it’s someone that expects you to pay for everything AND MIGHT have sex with you WITHOUT ever “expecting or asking for” money (That would make her a Hooker now, wouldn’t it?).
Still to this day, I’m never shocked at what comes outta some peoples mouths (in this case, what comes outta peoples fingers when they type).
And yes, I did use the word Hooker. Capitalized of course.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck…. Guess what? It’s a duck.
But what do I know? I’m just a 69 year old, toupee wearing fat guy from Talupa Mississippi giving my .02.
Snake is back. 🐍
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Let the White Knights begin their attack…
I have gone on many vacations OTC with providers and I have NEVER paid for their time. I pay for air, hotel, meals and all activities. The must agree to fuck me every morning and again at night, so sex two times a day. During the day, I rarely see them. Usually, I'm either on the golf course or out on a half-day fishing charter. Meanwhile, she has permission to charge up to $500/day to our room. This can be used at the spa or the resort clothing store, but keeps her busy and out of my hair while I'm having my OWN vacation. I tell them before we go that if they want to work while I'm busy doing my own thing, it's okay with me. There are usually plenty of married guys (and some single guys who came for the golf) at resort hotels that would be willing to pay to see the kinds of ladies I bring with me. This lets them pick up a few bucks on the side while we are not together. They don't discuss the specifics with me, but I know some of them have taken me up on it. Others just want to lay on the beach or fall asleep on the massage table.
There was ONE instance where I couldn't find a provider to go on these terms on rather short notice, so I asked a civvie girl I knew, and her reaction was, "What's the catch? You mean we fuck twice a day and then I can relax at the spa until dinnertime?" I said, "Yep." She still couldn't believe it and asked again, "That's it? I don't have to pay for anything?" I said yes. She went and had a great time, and so did I. Usually, I don't have any trouble finding a provider to go on these terms. My favs are the Ritz Carlton or the Four Seasons on Maui. Maui has a lot of great Golf Courses. My favorite is the Plantation Course at Kapalua. This is how you do it without paying for their time.
I suppose it depends on the expectations. I have zero expectations if a providers travels with me OTC, and I make that very clear prior to buying tickets/rooms. And up to now it's never gotten physical.
I'm working in NYC all of June and a provider is flying out to see me OTC for 2 nights. I'll update once that's concluded because it will actually be our first time meeting outside of an appointment.
I think I have 3 things going for me:
1- my business only has me go to cool cities: LA, Vegas, NYC, Miami...I think for my regular providers me being there is just a nice excuse to go there, and if they get to go for free why not?
2- I only see providers in my own age group and only frequent those who are my type of person in real life. So chances are we enjoy similar things. But I would never do a trip without knowing that I like their character. I've got one regular who I have great physical chemistry with but I couldn't imagine spending more than 2hrs talking to her let alone full days.
3- As stated in my previous post I would do more than 2 days/ nights. Plus usually I'm there working so I'm not around to hang out all day anyway
I’ve been on vacation with clients that are my real
friends & we did not spend every minute together.
Kinda a fmty situation but otc. Paid airfare and hotel and for all activities. 3 days / 2 nights. Separate rooms. No compensation for time (although I did get her a nice gift). Absolutely wonderful time. If the relationship is right I'd recommend it 100%
That you can do this in the middle of the week. Mine usually have to be weekends because of the nature of my work even though I’ve cut back to only 20-25 hours a week. I agree on getting separate rooms if the lady I’m taking snores. Lol
Luckily I even though I work about 70hrs/week, my schedule it very flexible. Perks of owning my own businesses (of course it also means I'm on-call 24/7)
You must be a gigolo, and a very popular one, at that. Lol
If I could go back in time I'd have made that my profession. I've got the looks and intelligence.