This week I got  three gentlemen I declined due to screening, they would screen with me using non verified ladies and when I ask for a reference that has a better online reputation they say I can't tell you because I'm scared I say why and in return they admitted they do not want to give the refs because it's a TS lady and worried about how female providers would take it since I'm a female they rather not screen using a TS and didn't have other ladies as refs to use. After hearing there side of the story. I could careless why thry couldn't screen I still had to cancel because they didn't want to screen. I take no chances and I don't half screen, if the person doesn't give info I just can't  
Never had this happen something new, never had people afraid to screen based on someone judging them.  
I posted this topic to GD because maybe someone out there is experiencing this hobbyist or provider.

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My latest reject customer: "I don't want my regular girl to know I want to see a ts"... Ugh. Makes me shed a tear every time.  

Honestly we are in the business of non judgement, this shouldn't be an issue. I've had gentleman give references that were either very different or offered services I do not, as long as they are reputable providers who screen well it should make no difference.

I don't question you, I question their BS TS excuses for not providing proper references.

Hobbyists and escorts both at risk in this business.Hobbyists and escorts should be helping each others with screening process.Blacklist hobbyists and escorts not references friendly.Please be helpful screening process.Thank you Fancy

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Blacklist? There's that misused word again ... Did you mean "don't see" instead?

When AIDS was a "homosexual and Haitian disease" bisexual men were considered high risk.  First of all the The 3 TS ladies I have met in my long life, including you my charming Sasha, are as careful and responsible as the other providers.  When AIDS was a gay disease it was during the peak of irresponsible gay sex.  One patient of mine in the late 1970s had had 40 or 50 "contacts unprotected" on a week end trip to NY.  Those days are gone and I have never met a TS who behaved like that. I also don't think clients of feminine lovely TS providers fit into the gay group that was at on time a repository of AIDs and other diseases..  
I must also say, you are one of the most charming people --what ever gender-- I have ever had the pleasure of meeting

to have picked up one of the more serious STDs than a guy who engages in covered relations with a transgender woman.  

I don't question the validity of this study, but what this study is not telling you is is all those people were escorts. To assume that because someone saw a ts then he's likely to be sick and should be avoided is simply BS and pure ignorance. Safe sex is safe sex. And just because I'm a ts doesn automatically make me prone to catch anything more than it makes a female provider. I think the study implies that transgender people may be prone to engage in unprotected sex more often. That may be true, or it may not. All I can do is practice safe sex following the industry standard.  

Specially the part where you said I'm one of the most charming chicks around 😋️

I don't think it deserves a blacklist. I am reference friendly but if the lady isn't reference friendly  it's a free country that's her right, snd if the hobbyist doesn't want to give a correct ref then I kust don't see him. I would save a blacklist for a more harmful situation.

First let me say, sorry sasha you are experiencing this in the community, it shouldn't happen.
 I would also like to say passing judgement on others is just wrong.  
This business should be a no judgment zone but I see it isn't. I think a provider has a right to decline to see a hobbyist for whatever reason she likes. It could be because he's to young,  to old, to tall, or because he sees a TS. I may not agree with it because I do think as long as someone iscreened properly it shouldn't matter but I also understand providers have there reason. The problem is not who they will see and who they wouldn't see. The problem is judging others to the point where you have a guy scared to use a ref.

am I going to have to take you out behind the woodshed and wash our your PC mouth with a bar of soap yet AGAIN???!!!

TS providers..

I've never declined an appointment because someone used a TS provider as a reference, because no one ever has... but I have stopped seeing clients based on their telling me that they've been with a trans-woman. I've also refused future meetings with clients that have revealed that they've been with men. The thought of both just makes me uncomfortable. It's hypocritical of me, I am openly bisexual.

at least you are a LOT more honest about your biases than are the women with NBA policies.

seem like a smart guy and a libertarian to boot.  

...and even though your motivations for doing so may not be agreeable to the majority at least you acknowledge their inherent hypocrisy...

Didn't work out so well in Indiana. How about to non-caucasians, which collectively soon will be the majority in the USA? Bring back those signs that said "No Blacks, Jews, and Dogs Allowed"?

being more honest about her reasons doesn't justify ignorance. If shes turned off by the client's sexual preferences. that is a valid argument. Probably a poor business decision, yet a valid reason. You are also right, that it's her right to decide who she sees. Inadvertently she is also perpetuating the social stigma I have to go thru. The world isn't gonna change overnight I get that. I myself have a hard time seeing people that may be overly effeminate because I prefer guys that are a bit more masculine. But not judging others, and be all inclusive is important to me. As long as everything is safe and fun.  

OK, I had to go back and reread what you actually wrote and by and large yes I do agree with the substance of your post, even if most of it was written in PCSpeak.

and you have done a great job so far in doing just that by using humor to diffuse hostility.

I like both natural-born and trans women.  So far, it hasn't been an issue with any providers.  Of course, I haven't had to go through any rigorous screening yet...

I always thought I wouldn't be judged by others in this hobby but it's not the reality.  I have been denied GFE by 3 top providers over the last 4 months because I have seen and reviewed a couple TS providers.  They were wonderful ladies one post-op and one pre-op.

Sorry that is happening to you but I say stick to your story and if someone doesn't like the fact that you have a TS vouching for you then on with the next, someone will be fine with it for sure. The reason I said do not work around it is because a provider could think you are hiding something more harmful when you are not. I knew someone in your situation he just ended up finding people who will or seeking out BDSM kinky providers.