So… I've noticed when having sex for fun outside P4P, (yes, I do lol,) that guys like the usual system… but they must NOT get good blow jobs outside of hiring escorts in most cases bc…
once I friggin' go down there they always want me to go down there and I miss out on intercourse. Sure, they pretend they wanna' fuck, so they throw on the cover and we go at it --- for two minutes --- then, "Can you go down on me to get me off? That's the only way I can get off."
This is not bragging - We all know we're good at blow jobs. We get paid well to do it lol. Duh.
I'm just going to give mediocre blow jobs (IRL) so I can get pounded every once and a while.
Now in the profession, dudes like more intercourse I've noticed; however, they also know where to go for a good BJ when they need one, so they don't worry about it so much.
If a guy doesn't P4P, but has multiple partners, I'm assuming they decide to take advantage of a guaranteed good blow job, then do the intercourse with the other ladies. Do you ladies deal with this, and guys, would you agree, (though you P4P, but let's say you didn't,) that this may be how a guy thinks?
IDK, I don't mind giving them, but I could use a little more pounding every now and then in these interactions.
This is very randomly put together. YMMV on interpretation LOL.
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barter a good BJ for a nice pounding...Tell your civvie friends that if they want a good BJ from you next time, they better give you a good pounding right now...lol
And the guys who have multiple non P4P partners don't hang around here...So we don't know what those Greek Gods do.
Guy, "Can you give me head? I don't orgasm from fucking."
Gal, "Oh baby if you can make me cum by fucking I'll suck out every drop of juice you got."
Guys can be goal oriented bastards.
But really .... you don't find civvie guys who want to make you come? When I was in that world as a younger man I worried I wouldn't last long enough to make my partner come. I didn't want to be in a hurry
and as for the OP, she should probably find guys with more staying power. I love to finish with a CIM, but I don't mind at all giving a little to get a little, and I throughly enjoy giving a thirty minute pounding before taking off the cover and finishing with a BBBJNQNSCIM.
We are all selfish pigs in bed, I also don't mind giving a twenty minute DATY session, especially when the prospects of some reciprocal action is a likelihood. Or even when it's not, but I will say that most women react rather well to a little time well spent "down there" most of them feel an obligation to return the favor. Or at least that's been my experience.
if you still have time for civvie chics, I am surprised that your dick just doesn't fall off...
I have actually had some civvie action down here from time to time.
I will confess that most of my action is P4P, and that the percentage will probably do nothing but go up from here as my tastes still run for 20 somethings or early 30's at eh oldest and my ability to score with women of that age will most likely decrease the older I get, but I still like to know that i've "got it" and that I don't HAVE TO pay to get a woman to be with me. There is zero doubt that I HAVE TO pay to get hundreds of hotties to be with me, but that's a cross I can bear. lol
providers have spoiled us when it comes to the fine art of cock sucking..for the civie girls..it is something they have to do..for providers..it is something they want to do..
Posted By: Courtney.ova
So… I've noticed when having sex for fun outside P4P, (yes, I do lol,) that guys like the usual system… but they must NOT get good blow jobs outside of hiring escorts in most cases bc…
once I friggin' go down there they always want me to go down there and I miss out on intercourse. Sure, they pretend they wanna' fuck, so they throw on the cover and we go at it --- for two minutes --- then, "Can you go down on me to get me off? That's the only way I can get off."
This is not bragging - We all know we're good at blow jobs. We get paid well to do it lol. Duh.
I'm just going to give mediocre blow jobs (IRL) so I can get pounded every once and a while.
Now in the profession, dudes like more intercourse I've noticed; however, they also know where to go for a good BJ when they need one, so they don't worry about it so much.
If a guy doesn't P4P, but has multiple partners, I'm assuming they decide to take advantage of a guaranteed good blow job, then do the intercourse with the other ladies. Do you ladies deal with this, and guys, would you agree, (though you P4P, but let's say you didn't,) that this may be how a guy thinks?
IDK, I don't mind giving them, but I could use a little more pounding every now and then in these interactions.
This is very randomly put together. YMMV on interpretation LOL.
-- Modified on 2/24/2014 10:54:21 AM
This is not directed at you obviously since we haven't met. But you guys by and large THINK you're good at BJs...sorry to break it to the pros but only about 10% of you are THAT good.
(Bring it. I'm fully prepared to discuss. You can see a previous post of mine.)
Going back to the OP, I agree it's about expectations. The guy who hasn't gotten blown in a while will think any bj is awesome (Eddie Murphy from 48 h: my dick gets hard when the wind blows.). The guy who get BJs every day if not multiple times a day... Not so much.
Since you gals are being more transparent lately here, about when you see a hot guy, about Asian dick size, etc., i'll let you know among the bj connoisseurs in P4P, meaning the guys who make lists of the bj specialists, there is a wide spectrum. 25% would not pass the qualifiers, only 50% would be in medal contention, and only 10% are world champions, IMO. A gold standard being the Heather Harmon's of the World.
Who cares what we think? True. Unless you take pride in this. i know most women do.
- Be gentle.. No rough play with my junk, since I am uncut...
- No talking dirty - Curly gets turned off
- No eye contact - Focus on the job girl..
- Lots of spit - Loves sloppy BJs
- Finger up my anus also does wonders...
I don't know first hand if CO is good or not. I will have to experience it myself if she is or not... One's treasure is another's trash and vice-versa.
If she wants to believe, we'd let her.
I like to hear her talk dirty; e.g., I want you to shoot a big load im my mouth, I want to taste your hot come, I want every drop of it. I also love the eye contact; she should look at me constantly with her lustful eyes and ask me if I am enjoying it. NO finger up the ass for sure (rimming on the other hand is great). I want her to caress my boys while deep-throating me. Now that is HOT for me!
either that or you must be getting blow jobs from ventriloquists, didn't anyone ever tell you NOT to talk with your mouth full? lol
I am with you on that no finger up the ass though, lots of guys love it, but count me in the other camp that doesn't
Tell me, what is a great BJ to you? I would actually be interested to hear.
I'm searching for a provider that can perform a Linda Lovelace style Deep Throat blow job. I also enjoy dirty talk, the dirtier and nastier the better. I absolutely adore it when a woman looks up at me and asks me if she's being a good little cocksucker, ohh just got a chubby typing it. I haven't found the Linda Lovelace DT yet, but I sure am enjoying the journey. Women are unbelievably awesome creatures, I just can't live with one.
I travel to hobby anyway, providers don't come to my area, unfortunately
She's in NC, but travels I think.
But there is no reason I can't stay a few days when I travel there to see her and take the opportunity to see Charlotte as well. And/or I can watch Charlotte's calander to see if her travel schedule and mine sinc up. But honestly, if she is as talented as you seem to indicate she must be then I don't want to wait for our paths to cross, I'll have to ensure it happens sooner than later. Thank you very much for the heads up, pun intended. It's awesome that you are looking out for a fella.
Posted By: Courtney.ova
She's in NC, but travels I think.
1. Look great with cock in your mouth;
2. Look like you love doing it, like you are goin' to get that load no matter what, and are in no rush to get it (even if in reality there are time constraints). The longer the buildup the harder the orgasm usually is;
3. Be able to use your mouth, hands, throat, spit together effectively;
4. Learn to build up tempo and excitement - I hate the " rapid jackers" who think that jacking me off at maximal velocity indiscriminately is the way to go. To me it only feels really good once the penis has gotten fully erect. Achieve that before "going to town";
5. Employ a wide variety of techniques (eg, dt, BLS, hj, eye contact, dirty talk, prostate massage) and positions with effect, depending on the subject;
6. A large part is psychological. That's where talking, eye contact, and reinforcing a role playing fantasy help;
7. Be able to watch your partner's reaction and adjust accordingly;
8. You cannot be skiddish about cum at all.
That's all vague and putting it all together is an art. Ps'es that come to mind who look like they're doing it right include: Heather Harmon (ideepthroat), Jeanna Fine (dentist chair and car wash videos), pretty much anything from Sasha Grey or Annette Schwartz, and many of the Donnie Darko Suck It Dry series. IMO, in principle, the ideal bj FEELS like fucking a pussy without the work for us. Dt is an important part of this principle since how often (except for HTG) do we only insert the penis partway in vigorous sex. Many ladies can cheat on DT by gripping the base and balls properly or timing the mouth with a hand stroke. A lady the other day did almost everything right but she hardly maintained any grip with her mouth so it felt like a loose vagina after having too many kids. I had to stop her from trying to finish.
Btw, a Fav fantasy/thought experiment of mine is a bj competition among ps'es and providers. Of course I'm a judge in that
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I imagine it's a skill keeping teeth out of the way while keeping a grip with the lips and mouth.
Yes, braces too.
Mouth/ facial muscles surely will fatigue.
Maybe she wanted to get pounded by you so she gave you a 'loose vagina' blow job lol. Was it civvy or a provider?
See, that is a good BJ to you. I feel a person who is good at BJ's tailors it to their client (or benefactor lol).
I struggle with giving good BJ's if a dude seems uninterested. In that case, I don't enjoy it and I know it shows.
I'm pretty sure I do everything you've listed above and more at this point, but the last two civvie BJ's I gave were probably just like your last lady's loose vagina BJ, LOL. Maybe my mouth was loosened up by another bigger cock lol. I was also pissed bc I wasn't getting anything in return. Not even enthusiasm. That's retarded.
Regarding the hands - some ask for the spit, hand, suction, holding balls, etc… I try to DT, but they don't seem to want it. Others love it, but some don't. It's all about communicating with your partner. Hopefully it gets better as time goes on.
You sound like you've got the makings of a great CkSker. Btw my # 8 was about tailoring the bj to the benefactor.
Your civvie guy was a dummie. No better way to get good bj's than to make sure you get yours regularly. I always ask what gets a civvie lady off. Unless you pass out after your orgasms, in which case, he's gaming you while you're gaming him. Lol.
Btw, loosey Goosey was a provider. A disappointment but she made up for it in other ways.
Posted By: Courtney.ova
Maybe she wanted to get pounded by you so she gave you a 'loose vagina' blow job lol. Was it civvy or a provider?
See, that is a good BJ to you. I feel a person who is good at BJ's tailors it to their client (or benefactor lol).
I struggle with giving good BJ's if a dude seems uninterested. In that case, I don't enjoy it and I know it shows.
I'm pretty sure I do everything you've listed above and more at this point, but the last two civvie BJ's I gave were probably just like your last lady's loose vagina BJ, LOL. Maybe my mouth was loosened up by another bigger cock lol. I was also pissed bc I wasn't getting anything in return. Not even enthusiasm. That's retarded.
Regarding the hands - some ask for the spit, hand, suction, holding balls, etc… I try to DT, but they don't seem to want it. Others love it, but some don't. It's all about communicating with your partner. Hopefully it gets better as time goes on.
I get confused when someone likes dt and another doesn't.
P.S. I don't care anymore. Gettin a new hitachi today lol
Just the other day I met someone who I found very attractive, shy, so I went down and then came back up and asked if he wanted to fuck me and he said, "suuuure" so I laughed and said "don't sound too enthusiastic, be honest, what do you want?" And he said, "more head?"
Cute experience.
Sorry I had a difficult time getting past professional cocksucker and blow job. What was the question? Is it too early for me to say I love you? Lol
There is no substitute to a blow job from a woman that knows she's really good at sucking cock, and I love every one of you.
Then again, I would prefer sucking over fkin. Guys who are spoiled to great oral, take intercourse for granted, so start biting them lol.
The first time a lady who really knew what she was doing let me CIM I felt like a druggie must feel after his first shot of really good coke. But of all the lovely ladies who have been kind enough to favor me with their charms I've never found anything so wonderful as a good vigorous humping and a finish in that mad sweaty DFK clinch.
Oh man, got myself kinda worked up there.
Best Handle I've seen thus far!!!
The "mad sweaty DFK clinch" well put and I agree.
I don't do BJs for civvies. Like, ever. If I'm having sex off the job it's all about me and my pleasure. Which is, you know, selfish, but, oh well. :
I like to fuck and go down women. BJ, not all that into it.
I just posted something about how civie girls just don't compare.
Gee. Everyone told me I was tripping, yet they agree with you..
How quaint.
Anyway. You are so right...
The best way to get a mans dick into you is to give him a shitty blow job.
It just flows...
But they go crazy when I go down on them.. Now I don't sleep around so I am talking about guys I have dated. And yes I Do give phenomenal blow jobs. I really enjoy putting a man in my mouth and making him pop. I pride myself on my blow jobs among other things. I am a very proud girl. Lol
loss of sensitivity using a condom that does not allow me to finish. I tried ED meds about 8 years ago and they helped with a finish but the headache was more than I wanted.
Maybe I will try a provider who offers a female condom.
But I rarely cum with a BJ and even then it has to be a BBBJ. I almost always want intercourse more. Too bad we don't live closer to each other. We could test it out.
Posted By: Courtney.ova
So… I've noticed when having sex for fun outside P4P, (yes, I do lol,) that guys like the usual system… but they must NOT get good blow jobs outside of hiring escorts in most cases bc…
once I friggin' go down there they always want me to go down there and I miss out on intercourse. Sure, they pretend they wanna' fuck, so they throw on the cover and we go at it --- for two minutes --- then, "Can you go down on me to get me off? That's the only way I can get off."
This is not bragging - We all know we're good at blow jobs. We get paid well to do it lol. Duh.
I'm just going to give mediocre blow jobs (IRL) so I can get pounded every once and a while.
Now in the profession, dudes like more intercourse I've noticed; however, they also know where to go for a good BJ when they need one, so they don't worry about it so much.
If a guy doesn't P4P, but has multiple partners, I'm assuming they decide to take advantage of a guaranteed good blow job, then do the intercourse with the other ladies. Do you ladies deal with this, and guys, would you agree, (though you P4P, but let's say you didn't,) that this may be how a guy thinks?
IDK, I don't mind giving them, but I could use a little more pounding every now and then in these interactions.
This is very randomly put together. YMMV on interpretation LOL.
-- Modified on 2/24/2014 10:54:21 AM
Not that you need my permission... Calm down guys! 
Here is my take on this. I am married and my wife really no longer has a great interest in performing a BJ. I can pound away on her all I want but getting her to go down is next to impossible. So I hobby! And when I hobby I look for a provider that not only gives BJ's she gives AMAZING Bj's! And yes it is selfish for me to sit back relax and get amazing head BUT isn't that what I am paying for? Now I get what you are saying so maybe the next time that happens you just tell the guy listen I NEED you to pound my pussy right now! Chances are he will forget about the BJ and go to town because not much is hotter than a woman telling you to destroy her
hmm - I'm a bit the opposite - I find that a lot of providers seem to imitate porn stars when it comes to sucking cock, and that approach does not work for me and I have to do a bit of training - ladies in my personal life who are accustomed to me are more satisfying in this respect - however, I've never met a kitty I did not enjoy tasting at my leisure, and giving a good long stroking....
for me anyway. So while the visuals of pounding away at a pussy can't be beat - I'll often go with the BJ for the finish, especially for round 2.
