If my ATF were to advertise, if she was back of course, I'd fake a family emergency or something to get out to see her I'm a project lead with a March deadline so I'd only be hurting myself by taking myself away. My ATF was from an agency that was forced to shut down last year, I found out through inquiring that she retired from the life and started her own business outside the life and good for her/bad for me. I am very happy for her and wish her all the best success in this next phase of her life, no doubt she'll succeed in anything she applies herself to, she is that strong of a woman, while being incredibly sweet. But to your question when all of that first went down I was frantically trying to get a hold of her, to no avail of course.
Why would I go to those lengths to see her again? Because she rocked my world. She is the most beautiful woman I have ever met in person, her action was unmatched and I liked her so much as a person that I almost couldn't wait for the down time to just be with her (naked of course) and talk. I've traveled to 5 different cities to see her, she is simply an amazing woman, there's no better way to put it.I have seen repeatedly on several boards gentlemen asking for information on ladies - "she took her site down," "is no longer advertising," "used to be with such and such agency," "where is she now", etc.
If a woman doesn't email blast or advertise any longer, is it common for some people to want to try to find her? I ask because it doesn't make sense to me. Even if you are still an escort but you've had to change your name for a reason, I wouldn't want someone divulging, "oh yeah, she's now called this and this".
Gentlemen, why do you do it?
Ladies, what would you think if someone asks for you when you are no longer advertising?
You will see many guys respond with "if she wanted you to know, she would have told you" or similar type responses.
Much of the time these ISO posts are stalkers, of course there are legitimate ISO posts as well from guys who are simply asking if she has resurfaced under a new name or number with no such nefarious intentions, but many times these guys are the reason the lady went UTR in the first place.
An example on the nyc board tonight.
The OP was looking for one of the girls from a high profile agency in ny that was recently busted in a similar high profile fashion. The girls all scattered and most went Indy.
Many threads have been started on multiple boards in the region, looking for these girls.
The OP didn't flag it as such because agency is obviously delisted.
I mean that they're entitled to ask about the public knowledge of such displaced providers, not to stalk them.
Otherwise, I'd agree. Leave them alone until they pop up again.
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Your subject line should read "ladies WHO can't be found." The word "that" is reserved for objects, not people. Conan is certain Cosette would no want to "objectify" a fellow provider.
Thus endeth the lesson.
Touche, yes you are correct, I would not want to objectify.
BUT, I also present that Webster's 4th definition of THAT as a pronoun is:
"(used as the subject or object of a relative clause, especially one defining or restricting the antecedent, sometimes replaceable by who, whom, or which 
"
In this case I used it to restrict the antecedent (ladies), so I COULD have replaced it with who, but didn't have to.
I know, it's such sexy talk, I'm getting all riled up over it now.
that Miss Cosette is technically correct, according to a Q&A on the Chicago Manual of Style.
BUT, as a Huffingtonpost article points out, there is a politic aspect to the use. So, it's interesting that Miss Cosette falls on the counterintuitive dehumanizing side...
f you're asking why some guys divulge info, as long as the info isn't personal info, I don't see what's wrong with sharing that on a site that is meant to share intel..
Whenever I see those, I give the same basic line as GaG, if she wanted you to find her, she'd let you know how to find her.
Personally, it doesn't matter why someone goes UTR. Is she paranoid and changes websites weekly? Is there a legitimate, serious stalker involved? Legal issues? Retirement? Personal or family issues? I think we can all think of ladies that fit every category. It doesn't matter. The "why" is irrelevant, only the fact of she's off the grid is relevant.
It really pisses me off when I see some UberFcktards spill the beans on "oh she's using this name", or "here's her new website". It's just flat out wrong.
I agree with GaG on this. While some of those posts may be legit and even out of concern for a former favorite or something, most are stalkerish, and most of those posts do get answered with "If she wanted you to know, you would know!"
This happened to me at one time, right after I was outed and had to do damage control.... A very stressful time, to say the least. A client with whom I had been in the planning stages of a date posted a question on the regional board rather than asking me directly. Luckily, I saw it as did one of my (more sensible) clients...post was reported and removed within an hour.
Edited to add: One of my friends had a guy do this to her, as well. It was no client, but an old sugar daddy she wanted nothing to do with. He wanted to know if she was still working, presumably to find her.
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If my ATF were to advertise, if she was back of course, I'd fake a family emergency or something to get out to see her I'm a project lead with a March deadline so I'd only be hurting myself by taking myself away. My ATF was from an agency that was forced to shut down last year, I found out through inquiring that she retired from the life and started her own business outside the life and good for her/bad for me. I am very happy for her and wish her all the best success in this next phase of her life, no doubt she'll succeed in anything she applies herself to, she is that strong of a woman, while being incredibly sweet. But to your question when all of that first went down I was frantically trying to get a hold of her, to no avail of course.
Why would I go to those lengths to see her again? Because she rocked my world. She is the most beautiful woman I have ever met in person, her action was unmatched and I liked her so much as a person that I almost couldn't wait for the down time to just be with her (naked of course) and talk. I've traveled to 5 different cities to see her, she is simply an amazing woman, there's no better way to put it.
So perhaps she didn't have my personal information. The reason why I would persue her is she was the best I've ever had looks and performance so if she was still out there but did not have the marketing talents (this was taken care of for her by the agency) perhaps she was still available. I found out she retired, and as I said good for her I wish her all the best in her next phase of her life.
Some guys want to meet ladies they know are difficult for the masses to find and book. You know...it's about that exclusivity factor. If they successfully get a date with her, then they've infiltrated that small circle of men, and tons of people feel special when they get to be a part of an exclusive crowd. Or they just want to see that "it girl" that they missed and hope that if they keep emailing her, they'll catch her when she needs money idk. Some ladies pull their site etc and go UTR but still want new clients, they just can't be in the spotlight with photos all over the net. So they may appreciate guys searching for them thru back channel. Idk it's negligent to post about these women on public boards through, b/c they may be dealing with a privacy issue. In some cases it's dangerous to back channel UTR whereabout's too. If a guy is a current client, it's best he ask her permission before passing on her info or confirming she still provides. Not all guys are discreet though, which is why you see tons of the posts you refer to on these boards.
To answer your last question, I don't advertise at all. I have a great group of friends and I don't prefer to add to that group, so when I get random inquiries from new guys (a handful every few months), I delete the emails. I don't think much of it but I don't want new friends anymore.
From my iPhone
Perhaps, the guy wasn't sure if she really left the business in the case of leaving an agency. The agency has all the client information, perhaps the lady doesn't have the marketing skills that have been taken care of the entire time she's been in the business. There are a thousand different scenarios other than what you posed, and of course yours too. I wasn't stalking, as soon as I found out she retired and moved on I was happy for her, honestly. If she were to resurface I'd find a way to see her as soon as I could. Some people just connect with others, even if it's for only 3 hours at a time, and if she was putting on a show, acting for me, then good for her she was convincing as hell. I would never, ever, cross the line with her or any provider but I enjoyed every moment of every appointment I spent with this amazing woman. There's absolutely nothing wrong with that, after all isn't that what I'm making a donation for, her companionship?
I just added a few to show there can be different reasons a man reaches out to someone UTR or retired. Or tries to find her..... Then, I put "idk" to indicate "I don't know" as if there's no one size fits all, so you know, idk why some pursue a UTR girl b/c there can be lots of reasons.
Sorry that wasn't clear. I'll try not to visit this site while I'm cooling down on the treadmill in between commercials anymore.
Take care.
I'm not in the "hip and with it" crowd, I don't always know the abbreviations. And besides, this must have been your honest opinion, which I respect. It's just not everyone's experience, and that's what I was attempting to convey. Clearly, I am not as articulate as I'd like to be when writing in here as it seems I've been misinterpreted many times. I wear my heart on a sleeve as it were and give my responses honestly and freely, I'm not concerned about being labeled as a mangina, in fact I'm proud of that designation.
Now Marius nor valJean will be able to hide you. Are you hiding out with Eponine?
My ISO's on the TER boards finally led me to you. Thanks to CPA and ADJ for those leads. Your allegiance to the King...well, actually the Queen of TER...Ms. TER January who rolled over on Cosette will be handsomely paid.
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She tried to make it on TER....but too many nasty posters drove her away.
Hard to imagine...she was a shoe in for 9/9's.
He's been posting photos of some hideous women lately so I assumed this was another, no I'm convinced she is hideous.
Ran an inn...took in poor Cosette...fucked up Eponine...rolled over on valJean...
Yep...that was Madame Thernardier from the Les Mis 25th anniversary show at the O in London.
And here you thought it was a new hooker in NYC asking for $ 1k/hr and demanding 10/10's...or else!
I think, if a provider is good in bed, i mean ( A GREAT LOVER), guys will want to keep a tab on her lol. I love getting those emails that reads..
"Its been so long, when are you coming to town"?
Soon darling, very soon..
And delist from TER you'll still find it exhilarating that some dude(s) are trying to find you?
Most gals disappear so they can't be stalked....guess others get off on it?
"Its been so long, when are you coming to town"?
Soon darling, very soon..
Because I've been wanting to be a smart ass to those posts, for sheer fun.
Makes me think of when I no longer do this, the possibility of random people asking about me makes me feel a little uncomfortable.
Again.. I don't think I am allowed to have a say in this shit.
I am not rich. So I still see the girls here as women.... Peers?
You know??? Regular friends you could talk to???
Where the fuck did they go?
I need a teacher dammit
I'd FEEL a sense of loss. I'd WISH she was still around. I wouldn't dwell on it (for any longer than was the kind of bittersweet pining you hear about in Country songs), and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't ACT on those feelings. Believe me, if I acted on some of the feelings I had a few years ago I'd be famous-- and history-- and not in a good way. Having nothing to with women.
So, I can understand how someone could get bent out of shape over this. Especially if they had abandonment issues (and I'll bet a lot of men wind up in the hobby because they have fear of abandonment and/or resentment over it), BUT the impulse is stupid. Really. The urge to take action comes out of a mind that's somehow in a stupor. All the ditch-the-bitch advice others give them, very wise advice in this situation, is ignored or hemmed and hawed away because the "lovesick" mind can't think clearly enough to see the light.
And Gambler, no I never worked in the carnival (well, not in the way you meant) and I don't own a TV. And the lady in question proved to be pretty much everything I described except she wasn't a WASP, but Italian instead, and she STILL lives on the East Coast. So my batting average remains high enough for me spout off in this high-minded way.
People who have invested in me. A couple girls, and a couple guys. 
Hopefully people who know how to keep their mouths under control in these instances
If you you have to ask where I am, there's a reason why you don't know. Of course, I'd keep my regulars in the know.
As are CPA and GaG. Women have a right to turn the page and guys who can't let it go should examine why they can't. To me, these are the guys who've bought into the whole GFE thing and bought the fantasy that she really gave a shit about them
Two examples. One of my favorite gals has dropped out of my world with no explanation. I have made no effort to contact her. If she wants to get in touch, she knows how.
Another favorite (and well known gal here) moved on and we said our goodbyes. She just got in touch yesterday with a few close friends to let us know she's making a brief return. I told her I 'd be out of town but to please let me know the next time she returns. If she does, I'll try to see her. If not....
ask about delisted providers by name. It had over 50 likes last time I checked. If a woman goes through hell and back to remove every shred of evidence regarding her hooker persona from the net, it's a pain in the ass when guys are out there blabbing about her old name, email and phone number. What some of you don't realize is that it pops up n google. There are threads here that if you google a provider's name, that thread is already in the search engines with her name in it.
I recall some idiot asking about a girl with no phone number on the net... it happened to be MY new google voice number that must have been recycled as they all are. I have been intercepted with random texts from other people many times thinking they were responding to someone else. GV is so dumb they will actually assign the same number at the same time to multiple people! Talk about a mess! I have never used a phone number on the net, and when I clicked her link, she also did not have that number in any of her ads. That idiot fked two people with one post.
You can ask on the RO board, but doing it publicly is frowned upon. If she wants to communicate with her old friends, she knows how. Right now, TER is the only place I do that and I don't have VIP to PM... unless I report some dumb shit lol.
To read every post on that thread, freaking shocking and frustrating. On local boards it's every day or every couple of days. I don't get it, there's ads every day, women being available, you'd think that be enough without trying to get someone who isn't advertising. Human nature.