I feel like this may becoming an issue for me personally. I am longing for a relationship that is similar to a GFE provider in that you are hoping for certain things to happen during a sexual encounter. Nothing to crazy more like DFK on to some oral for warmup then on to the main event. So when you are in a relationship and 95% of the time you are simply sticking it in and getting it over with as fast as possible does this create an issue based on expectations of something more.  

Aside from the occasional "quickie," all the civie chicks I have been with were fine with making out and oral sex as part of foreplay.  Where are you meeting your civie women, the backwater baptist church?

Sort of feels like that for sure doesn't it!

If you are "simply sticking it in and getting it over with as fast as possible" a whopping 95% of the time, you have some serious issues you need to deal with.

I've heard of where civvie girls are like that is Cleveland, so as long as you live somewhere else, you should be fine.  Just keep plugging away (no pun intended).

This is a long term deal it was not always like this

LMAO I guess it costs about the same whether it is P4P or straight up dating at least you know what you are in for

Find a new GF or stick to hookers, or both. lol

I hear you. The situation is much more complex than a simple see you later end result. The P4P definitely assists with urges that are desired

yet it was still a very simple decision to make.

than have the call of duty fuck from her. There is very little real pleasure in fucking someone who really isn't interested but does it out of a duty to the relationship. There are always ups and downs in long term relationships but if the sex life isn't resuscitated, boredom will kill it.

Ask anyone who signs alimony checks regularly.

Friends I have had that stayed married because they would have to split everything, so they stay married . . . . and miserable, for the rest of their lives. If a guy is young and there are still minor children at home, then I can see toughing it out until the kids are adults, but after that, I don't get the rationale of "sentencing" yourself to life in prison.  Just pay the "fine" and get out of jail.  

I've probably improved my civvie bedroom life more than harmed it. Sure some girls I've been with have wanted to dead fish on me, but almost always they can be convinced otherwise with the right foreplay. There are positions and tricks that I wouldn't have known had I not seen girls who do this professionally.

If it wasn't for paid fucks, I wouldn't have no fucks at all

That's a generous paraphrase. I like it.

I wish I had had your clarity, and your guts, many years ago.

I'm a realist, reality is that I'm not an attractive man, so I've had to settle my entire life. I could get members of the OTHFB club, but I'm just simply not attracted to them. Why bother with subpar anymore.

First of all, because it's not even good for the kids.  They know when a household is unhappy.  I had two kids the first time I was divorced.  My ex and I set our main goal that they not be affected.  Of course they were to some degree but it was minor.  They got through it fine and are happily married themselves now.

Mindboggling, but true.  

Even better, they know Dad is a whoremonger.  I still recall one of them called me on my birthday while I was in LV.  He asked me what I was doing to celebrate and I replied, "Ever heard of Model Mayhem?"  He had.  I said, 'Well I have a date with two Model Mayhem girls tonight."  His reply was, "Go, DAD!"
I love my boys.

from a person like Jakestatefarm, all he will ever get is nothing but paid sex, there are no real women that would ever like him.  How would you expect him to know anything outside

The one caveat....If you divorce sometimes the woman will "wimpify" your sons as revenge against you.  I have seen single mother's who turn their sons into "male feminists".  If you have want your sons to be real men you sometimes have to stick around and be the stealth hobbyist.   I think that in this day and age one has to be very careful about allowing your sons to be influenced by the bitter wife.   Just my two cents..

just that it did not happen in my case.
Also, I've always liked your handle.

Not to mention you have no clue.  Then again, you never do.
You are a sad, angry, ignorant fool.

It sort of eliminates the possibility of any kind of manscaping, IMO.

you're a silverback?

Point.  You wouldn't be able to without losing your mojo.  

Providers are my Sex Life. Besides Regular Sex Life or Provider Sex Life = Same Difference.

Im not a bad looking guy, but in my youth, I was unsuccessful financially, which affected my social status and my confidence. The only women that wanted me and desired me were fat trolls, or welfare bitches with two kids from different fathers. My choices have always been lower my standards and settle, or just do something else. There is absolutely no way I could ever desire, or return affection to a woman I cant get sexually excited for, or who I know is a train wreck and therefore a burden on me, so what difference does being desired and wanted make when no one I wanted desired me anyway? The hobby has allowed me to at least have beautiful, model hot girls as opposed to settling for women I didn't want. You can feel alone in a relationship too. Funny thing is now that I'm 45, I've seen many of my buddies that did settle for someone they were never really crazy about just to not be alone, to be wanted, and they are divorced now, lost their house and paying child support.  

isn't it hard to go back to the mini-van after you've driven the Lamborghini?  And sadly the answer is yes.  I've never had civie sex anywhere near some of the experiences  I've had in the hobby.

Good point! I have had my share of fun very active in my 20's and 30's and had some AMAZING experiences that honestly were much better than any P4P experience. What made them more memorable where the hours spent teasing and working on the final outcome of taking them home and fucking them all night long in every position possible.

Whoever informed you is sadly mistaken. I have first hand knowledge of the area and the ladies are just as into sex as anywhere else. SMDH.