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ocaptain69 3461 reads
posted
1 / 41

Bear  with  me on this Folks,
This situation has complexities so read carefully, There are several variables involved, so I hope you have your thinking cap on!!! not for the faint of heart either.
I have included the all the variables, so don't read anything into it, except it for what it is.
That being said Someone will.... LOL
The info presented herein will allow her know identify with the situation...fairly detailed, too detailed.. i'm fairly confident she won't respond. She's private and is utr on the boards, as am I. hence.....

Situation:
Not long ago just over a month ago I had a very good provider friend REALLY MESS up a BIG DATE.
She was tour before the Holidays, and she would not be in town for many months later....so I offered her a date to come to town...my treat for a Holiday Spectacular...
She accepted the date to come to town, so flight, hotel and deposit were paid.
To be clear I'd never do this for a first date.....  
We were in great communication texting, talking emailing.....right up through the night before she was to fly in. In fact on one occasion she had texted me, in the middle of the day, thanking her for the her toy(butt plug) i had gotten her...... (SCHWING!!!!) F*** talk about foreplay (LMAO thinking about it)...I've reviewed her well several times,,,and reviewed the event buying it for her...ok TMI....
Later on  the morn'g she was to arrive she texted me an hr before she was to land that she was sick...... missed her flight.....I paniced for a moment, but got to work making calls to her..... no answer for a long while, then the airline, hotel, cancelled dinner. got the hotel to comp the prepaid room to the next night... so I worked hard to rearrange things dinner at great place.... 4-5 star hotel was prepaid for a great price...... so, when we finally got in touch....we rescheduled, and I picked up the extra airfare for next day........ and she arrived earlier than expected cause she didn't want to miss flight.......
She was still under the weather.   she was apologetic, yet she made it in...I have to give that much...she is sweet lady, a good friend..... we know much of each others personal life, that's what makes this hard
I'm a gentleman and I'm not going to force a date. so we postpone the date part for a few days later before she's scheduled to leave town. she needs to rest, NP here...shit happens.....
I stopped by with some food and few other things to help her get better. w/o knowing I had gotten a few of her favorite foods and drinks....and supplements..... we chat for a while and I let her get some sleep... I have her use the room it's paid for....
So..the next morn'g, Monday, I arrived with coffee, and to check out...get my overnight bag, this was to be night on the town....do it big, have fun....Enjoy the Holiday Charm...... so we decide we will talk later that afternoon to work the details out.
I text her after a hard day of work... She tells me she flew home she was feeling so bad and doesn't want to be rude to give her a couple days to rest and feel better

I was PISSED!!!! and HUGELY DISAPPOINTED!!!!!  But I was COOL about it. I checked the flight she did go home...I had the confirm # and checked...
Why didn't she tell me she needed to go home?????? she had to change the flight before she checked out that morning, cause she left that early. I would've been disappointed, but you have admit I've been cool to this point....maybe too cool!

We've seen each other 5 or 6 times in the previous 7 months..... pretty much ea time she came to town.
she's become an ATF..... she's a great lady, very popular provider every where she goes.  We have become friends.
When SHIT HAPPENS IT REALLY HAPPENS....The shit hit the Fan when, a couple days later, awaiting to talk.... I got an email that she had a new review....so I excitedly checked it out... she had been traveling the two weeks prior to our date.....
HOLY F***!!!!! The review was from a date she had the night she was supposedly be laid up sick resting up for our Date ..... the guy she saw detailed in the gen description exactly why she was in town and was available for a date.... It was a hot time by them......there was even a time stamped post on her ad from him only an hour after their date, thanking her.
I went F*** Ballistic!!!! at 11pm at night.  I've never gone ballistic...and I tried to call her several times that night to no avail..... I was a shit in an email, and a couple vm's, and texts....
WTF  she was sick???? had a date when she was to be in town w/ me, blew town w/o telling.
I called her on it.  she still denies seeing the guy the night before.... folks if Need be I'll prove my case..
That's not the point...she had a commitment, and was obligated to be in town honoring a business deal...she  blew it off false pretenses or not... All I ask is some COMMUNICATION.
Our Friendship is DONE! she still denies she's done anything wrong...... YA THINK!!!!
She's promised to make good on deposit, we have an arrangement....for her to repay....

The kicker: she is POPULAR, WELL KNOWN, and is coming back to town soon... before she has promised to make good....she won't communicate yet  has threatened some stuff... all while she was angry...but she hasn't done so..... I have my bases covered.
I see her friends in town as well, so that's an issue as well
I really hate that I'm at this point.  Nothing good comes from it, but I'm Conflicted....not highly conflicted.... I'm not one to out anything or anybody..... I still consider her a friend, but this will take time to heal, and I feel she should give my position some consideration. Both our reputations are in the balance.  Again, it's not the money.... It's the principal, as for the money she knows I've treated her very well....up to the Ballistic part, given her time.....  The proverbial Ball is in her court. She needs to respect my POV.
In my Ballistic state, I never called her names,  I cursed, and questioned, and vented.
at the end of the text and email I said as much....It's out baby..... let's talk

So Please It's your opportunity to walk in our shoes... tell us like it is...but refrain from the caustic crap... I've done enough for a lifetime. Christ!!! I was a DICK to a lady, and apologized for my behavior.....I would love an apology, but my personal code never asks for an apology, when one is offered, unasked, it is an honest gesture. That is what I prefer.
Just to be clear...On my end there is no Romantic Connection!!!! She is great MIND BLOWING EROTIC F***, and we connected as friends....w/ a business relationship.....Fun one at that.
I entertain many ladies a ccouple of friends....and will continue to do so
Questions:
Ladies, If this were you you how would expect a guy to react, and how would you handle it....make good, What should she repay? what would expect he do in the near future? what would you expect if you shaft him??
Guys, how would you react? what would you expect? how long to wait? what would you do if she shafts you?

I'm trying to be cool...keeping this between us, but there are limits to a persons resolve.
I don't want to reveal her identity. so don't go there. If certain events transpire......
My personal code refrains from talking sh**.....I'm not one to go bad on people, but this is difficult ..... If she makes good this will go away.
we can go our separate ways as hard as that would be... and I'd come to terms that I lost a friend and lover.....cie le vie
Thoughts?????


macdaddy1944 51 Reviews 832 reads
posted
2 / 41

simple..whenever you go too far out on a limb..it is bound to break..life is too short to get involved with too much drama..

Posted By: ocaptain69
Bear  with  me on this Folks,
This situation has complexities so read carefully, There are several variables involved, so I hope you have your thinking cap on!!! not for the faint of heart either.
I have included the all the variables, so don't read anything into it, except it for what it is.
That being said Someone will.... LOL
The info presented herein will allow her know identify with the situation...fairly detailed, too detailed.. i'm fairly confident she won't respond. She's private and is utr on the boards, as am I. hence.....

Situation:
Not long ago just over a month ago I had a very good provider friend REALLY MESS up a BIG DATE.
She was tour before the Holidays, and she would not be in town for many months later....so I offered her a date to come to town...my treat for a Holiday Spectacular...
She accepted the date to come to town, so flight, hotel and deposit were paid.
To be clear I'd never do this for a first date.....  
We were in great communication texting, talking emailing.....right up through the night before she was to fly in. In fact on one occasion she had texted me, in the middle of the day, thanking her for the her toy(butt plug) i had gotten her...... (SCHWING!!!!) F*** talk about foreplay (LMAO thinking about it)...I've reviewed her well several times,,,and reviewed the event buying it for her...ok TMI....
Later on  the morn'g she was to arrive she texted me an hr before she was to land that she was sick...... missed her flight.....I paniced for a moment, but got to work making calls to her..... no answer for a long while, then the airline, hotel, cancelled dinner. got the hotel to comp the prepaid room to the next night... so I worked hard to rearrange things dinner at great place.... 4-5 star hotel was prepaid for a great price...... so, when we finally got in touch....we rescheduled, and I picked up the extra airfare for next day........ and she arrived earlier than expected cause she didn't want to miss flight.......
She was still under the weather.   she was apologetic, yet she made it in...I have to give that much...she is sweet lady, a good friend..... we know much of each others personal life, that's what makes this hard
I'm a gentleman and I'm not going to force a date. so we postpone the date part for a few days later before she's scheduled to leave town. she needs to rest, NP here...shit happens.....
I stopped by with some food and few other things to help her get better. w/o knowing I had gotten a few of her favorite foods and drinks....and supplements..... we chat for a while and I let her get some sleep... I have her use the room it's paid for....
So..the next morn'g, Monday, I arrived with coffee, and to check out...get my overnight bag, this was to be night on the town....do it big, have fun....Enjoy the Holiday Charm...... so we decide we will talk later that afternoon to work the details out.
I text her after a hard day of work... She tells me she flew home she was feeling so bad and doesn't want to be rude to give her a couple days to rest and feel better

I was PISSED!!!! and HUGELY DISAPPOINTED!!!!!  But I was COOL about it. I checked the flight she did go home...I had the confirm # and checked...
Why didn't she tell me she needed to go home?????? she had to change the flight before she checked out that morning, cause she left that early. I would've been disappointed, but you have admit I've been cool to this point....maybe too cool!

We've seen each other 5 or 6 times in the previous 7 months..... pretty much ea time she came to town.
she's become an ATF..... she's a great lady, very popular provider every where she goes.  We have become friends.
When SHIT HAPPENS IT REALLY HAPPENS....The shit hit the Fan when, a couple days later, awaiting to talk.... I got an email that she had a new review....so I excitedly checked it out... she had been traveling the two weeks prior to our date.....
HOLY F***!!!!! The review was from a date she had the night she was supposedly be laid up sick resting up for our Date ..... the guy she saw detailed in the gen description exactly why she was in town and was available for a date.... It was a hot time by them......there was even a time stamped post on her ad from him only an hour after their date, thanking her.
I went F*** Ballistic!!!! at 11pm at night.  I've never gone ballistic...and I tried to call her several times that night to no avail..... I was a shit in an email, and a couple vm's, and texts....
WTF  she was sick???? had a date when she was to be in town w/ me, blew town w/o telling.
I called her on it.  she still denies seeing the guy the night before.... folks if Need be I'll prove my case..
That's not the point...she had a commitment, and was obligated to be in town honoring a business deal...she  blew it off false pretenses or not... All I ask is some COMMUNICATION.
Our Friendship is DONE! she still denies she's done anything wrong...... YA THINK!!!!
She's promised to make good on deposit, we have an arrangement....for her to repay....

The kicker: she is POPULAR, WELL KNOWN, and is coming back to town soon... before she has promised to make good....she won't communicate yet  has threatened some stuff... all while she was angry...but she hasn't done so..... I have my bases covered.
I see her friends in town as well, so that's an issue as well
I really hate that I'm at this point.  Nothing good comes from it, but I'm Conflicted....not highly conflicted.... I'm not one to out anything or anybody..... I still consider her a friend, but this will take time to heal, and I feel she should give my position some consideration. Both our reputations are in the balance.  Again, it's not the money.... It's the principal, as for the money she knows I've treated her very well....up to the Ballistic part, given her time.....  The proverbial Ball is in her court. She needs to respect my POV.
In my Ballistic state, I never called her names,  I cursed, and questioned, and vented.
at the end of the text and email I said as much....It's out baby..... let's talk

So Please It's your opportunity to walk in our shoes... tell us like it is...but refrain from the caustic crap... I've done enough for a lifetime. Christ!!! I was a DICK to a lady, and apologized for my behavior.....I would love an apology, but my personal code never asks for an apology, when one is offered, unasked, it is an honest gesture. That is what I prefer.
Just to be clear...On my end there is no Romantic Connection!!!! She is great MIND BLOWING EROTIC F***, and we connected as friends....w/ a business relationship.....Fun one at that.
I entertain many ladies a ccouple of friends....and will continue to do so
Questions:
Ladies, If this were you you how would expect a guy to react, and how would you handle it....make good, What should she repay? what would expect he do in the near future? what would you expect if you shaft him??
Guys, how would you react? what would you expect? how long to wait? what would you do if she shafts you?

I'm trying to be cool...keeping this between us, but there are limits to a persons resolve.
I don't want to reveal her identity. so don't go there. If certain events transpire......
My personal code refrains from talking sh**.....I'm not one to go bad on people, but this is difficult ..... If she makes good this will go away.
we can go our separate ways as hard as that would be... and I'd come to terms that I lost a friend and lover.....cie le vie
Thoughts?????


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OneofaPair 819 reads
posted
3 / 41

ok, IF everything written here is accurate (and only she and you know if it is) then she absolutely used you.  I'm trying to see what the downside to outing her would be.  So you can't see her anymore?  And her friends?

If there's anything I've learned in my short two years of playing, its that there are many, many very attractive, very skilled, very charming women in this industry.  Losing the ability to play with a dozen of them or so is not that big a deal.

Of course, the only reason to outing her would be to warn others.  So if her burning someone else isn't a big deal to you (and she absolutely will use others this way) my suggestion would be to just let it go, never contact her again, and chalk it up as a very expensive lesson in people.

wrps07 916 reads
posted
4 / 41

Never ever pay for a provider's cost like that. Bottom line is that you and her saw each other too many times and she decided to take advantage of you. She does not care because if she cared she would have not used you like that.

I hate to say this, but you are better off seeing a BP provider at the last minute. One with reviews. They seem to be more appreciative and have much better rates.

anonymousfun 6 Reviews 938 reads
posted
5 / 41

It is not that complicated. Shit happens. If you are looking for an apology, free make up session whatever, may or may not happen. Once you realize the fact that you are 1 of n, and move on everything becomes clear.

Connected as friends is 1 of n also. Mind blowing sex, how do you know there isn’t someone else who is even better.  

How would I react, leave her alone and move the fuck on and find someone else to mind blowing sex and that is what the reviews are for.


WondersOfTheWrld 905 reads
posted
6 / 41

If it were me, I would have never done what she did in the first place. My friends are those I have seen several times a year for YEARS not months so there is real mutual respect. She doesn't respect you so I wouldn't waste any more time on her because what she did is bullshit that shouldn't be done to friends.

I would post her name on your regional board or move on, but I would never put another dime in her pocket, if I were you.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 887 reads
posted
7 / 41

She came down with the flu.  This is a really bad flu season, about 25% of my office it out with it.

Once you begin to feel like shit, it takes 4-5 days of rest to get over it.

If you push yourself to go back to work before then, you risk relapse and will be out another 2-3 days.  I see people at my office do this all the time, and it never fails to happen.  They also manage to infect a few more people by coming back too soon.

This gal you write of is a bit of a moral coward to run off without talking to you, but some of us are like that.

I wouldn't blame you if you never wanted to trust or see her again, but what happened to you is just a minor tragedy in life's ebb and flo.  You'll get over it.

Get back up on the hobby horse now and ride.

PhilAnderz 22 Reviews 800 reads
posted
8 / 41

I'm sure that all of us who made it through this saga are envious of the fact that the writer has so much money to waste.

Meanwhile, the French expression is "C'est la vie."  The writer might want to think about spending a few of those surplus dollars at L'Alliance Française.  Bonne contination!

crazyshit 763 reads
posted
9 / 41

I will just write in bullet points:

1.  She was sick.  Instead of just rescheduling for a week or two later, you forced it by trying to make it a day later.  You made the assumption that she would be fine to come out after only 24 hours, and you were wrong.  This was proven by the fact that she spent the entire time in bed recuperating.

2.  Yes, it sucks that she went home early without telling you, and for that I fault her.  However, she might have been so sick that she knew it was fruitless to stay around.  You already put tons of pressure on her to at least have ONE BIG NIGHT on the town and in bed, and she probably felt too much pressure.  Even still, she was wrong by not telling you.

3.  So what if she had been traveling two weeks before your date?  That's her business, not yours.

4.  How do you know she had a date "the night she was supposedly to be laid up sick resting" for your date?  The last time I checked, NO review ever gave a hard date as to when an appointment happened.  Sounds to me like you are reading way too much into it.

5.  Posts are DELAYED because they are moderated.  The post could have come up 24 to 48 hours after the guy posted it.  You cannot rely on a timestamp to denote when something actually was posted.

6.  You cannot control the fact that she cannot have dates prior to your date.  She is a prostitute, and you are a john.  She fucks guys for money, and unless you pay her shit, you cannot lock up her time.  Live with it.

7.  Resolve this in a business-like manner.  State very clearly in clear terms what you want her to do to resolve this.  Don't be passive/aggressive and pussyfoot around.  What do you want?  An apology?  Full payback?  A 24-hour fuckfest?  Name it and say it.

Zangari 805 reads
posted
10 / 41

Here's my advice:  pay attention to what people do, not what they say.  Your provider's actions tell you all that you need to know:

1.  She flies into town with an airplane ticket that you bought for her.
2.  She stays in a hotel room that you bought for her.
3.  She accepts a deposit that you paid her.
4.  She fucks another guy.
5.  She leaves town without seeing you.  

I want you to forget everything about her except items 1-5.  --z



 


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Duplicitouslust 24 Reviews 655 reads
posted
11 / 41

Dear Ms. Rayne:
That is why when you run for President of the national companionship professionals union you should ensure us that there would be a better booty business bureau to ensure things of this nature don't happen to unsuspecting hobbyist.

ocaptain69 752 reads
posted
12 / 41

I stand corrected.
I appreciate the money aspect...I to budget for the hobby, but if I were focus on that I'd go crazy....I have a full time job, and 2 small contracting co.'s....kids and civic respons.
In this case I decided to borrow from other months alottment...It was that important.
What also gets me is I had to delay dates w/ other friends....this affected several other ladies, but it was my choice. If she had some respect, she could have realized this could have gone her bf in town had she'd respectfully declined....she's sucking money from the other ladies.....Not me.....she just left me w/ a major blue balled...
Thx

ZeroDeal 72 Reviews 822 reads
posted
13 / 41

This whole"she's a really good friend" is delusional and a major source of this problem.  These are business arrangements and while a provider can certainly be friendly they aren't your friend. You don't call a provider to crash on their couch when you've drank too much.  There will always be an expectation of money for time. So when you treated this provider as a friend and not a provider you got screwed but even more you got hurt.  I don't know any business arrangement where someone lies to you, takes off on you, and you are still going to try to figure out how to forgive them. It's over. They are fired. And guess what, there are plenty of other girls out there to take their place who are younger and have bigger boobs. Go find them.

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 880 reads
posted
14 / 41

she played you big time. For me, a deposit is a GOLDEN booking meaning, no way in hell I am going to cancel that date regardless of how good another offer might be. Just a regular booking, is not guaranteed on my end because I have gotten canceled on far too many times to count on anyone showing up, but a deposit? Flight and hotel paid for in advance? She's a bitch...no bones about it. I am a bitch too now, but one with integrity ha ha. You just don't do things like this on principle alone!  You think she would have had the common sense to tell the other guy not to review her, but alas...hooktards don't think!


You need to review her, and let others know. You've gone through the trouble of outing her in a way here, so why not do the review? Or, does she have you in a spot where you can't review her? You had to know her real name to book the flight and hotel right? Or, did you send her the money to do that? Either way, she owes you every dime you paid her or a make up date, not that you would even want to fk her now lol.

ocaptain69 784 reads
posted
15 / 41

thx, for the most part you correct.
Just to clarify a few things.
When a review comes out within days, and it was from the city she just left, and she was only there for one w/e,...and he clearly articulates, she was in town an extra nite bc she missed her flight.   the post on her ad spoke to the date moments before.
We postponed for several days later.
She made it to town, that was sincere, she was not well, understood. She had a large deposit...she was pd. upfront.....
My pov is she was obligated to our time...
I realize shit happens!!!
Communication is the issue, I'm still ok w a date later, but don't think it will happen.
Thx again

ocaptain69 676 reads
posted
16 / 41

thx london, i appreciate ur pov.
A review is written on a flash drive, in case it's needed. Rs2k and p411 are on standby...
I do know her real name, we were friends per se'We know so much about ea. other from talking.
She even told me her old prov. name., and family stuff.
At the risk of being a mangina lol, my gut says she'll make good. She is of good character to this point.
I angered her by my Assinine texts, email, and calls. I take resp.  for those, but that doesn't absolve her of part. FWIW I allowed her extra time to repay. I just don't want her back here in our hobby yard til she makes good. She has a responsibility to the other ladies on here as well.
As for our private info, regarless what happens, that goes to the grave w/ me. That much is clear.
As I stated I'm conflicted, we're friends....only convo otc, lots of it too.
I want so badly to keep it private, any other guy would have fked her by now....... My personal code tells me otherwise.
Another shitter....I spent time w/ gal this week that knows her very well......, told me about a double they did...lmao.....it was hot, It was all I could do not to divulge the sit.....
I'm trying to be absolutely cool and do the right thing.....

Posted By: London Rayne
she played you big time. For me, a deposit is a GOLDEN booking meaning, no way in hell I am going to cancel that date regardless of how good another offer might be. Just a regular booking, is not guaranteed on my end because I have gotten canceled on far too many times to count on anyone showing up, but a deposit? Flight and hotel paid for in advance? She's a bitch...no bones about it. I am a bitch too now, but one with integrity ha ha. You just don't do things like this on principle alone!  You think she would have had the common sense to tell the other guy not to review her, but alas...hooktards don't think!


You need to review her, and let others know. You've gone through the trouble of outing her in a way here, so why not do the review? Or, does she have you in a spot where you can't review her? You had to know her real name to book the flight and hotel right? Or, did you send her the money to do that? Either way, she owes you every dime you paid her or a make up date, not that you would even want to fk her now lol.

ocaptain69 770 reads
posted
17 / 41

thx,
#'s 1,3,and 5 spot on,
#2  she wanted get a differnt room, I told her to stay there....it was pd for. No sense letting a top notch room go to waste....
#4 happened before she flew in, and has bearing to why she was not prepared for our time.  and questions her excuse for missing her flight in the first place...was she sick...she looked like tired and beat...she does suffer from insomnia...

harborview 10 Reviews 672 reads
posted
19 / 41

You have an unenforceable contract (can't enforce illegal acts).  In theory she owe's you...  but she was sick, which you also knew.  I know when I'm sick, I just want to be home in my own bed.  She should have cancelled before using the ticket or let you know before she bailed.  OK, she was wrong.  

What to do?   The money you risked is now gone.  Think of this as a job you contracted blew up in your face.  You have no choice but to write it off.  
Do you think she can afford travel expenses, hotel, and provide what ever entertainment you had previously agreed to?  Well, likely she can't.  Or won't.  She'll just avoid you.  Scratch one client.  Scammers do this on purpose frequently...  We'll be gentle and just say this was an accident of nature (illness).  

You made a bad bet.  And you want her to make you whole?   If you mention it to any mutual aquaintances, it will FLY back to her...  and be deemed as you pressuring her to make good.  Do NOT do it.  Nothing good will come from involving friends.  In the end it will cost you.  Or make you look like a Mark!  

I would say, Do NOT attempt to review...  You can't expect a sick person to work.  You'll look like a jerk.  I would make one last appology to her for your bad maners.  You could even ask if you can still be friends.   Then let the matter drop.  If she chooses to make good on a future trip, you gain.  If she chooses not to, you have not lost anymore than you have already.   This puts the ball in her court & she can decide the kind of person she is.

We've all made mistakes.  I'd say this is one.  I'm sorry this blew up on you but that is the risk you willingly took.  I've not made big mistakes in the Play Field but made several expensive gaffs with civies...  cost way more than a weekend get away.  I try to learn from my mistakes & promise to never go there again.
Best Wishes, HV

ocaptain69 771 reads
posted
20 / 41

HV, thx,
Your correct in most respects.
She was sick....I know that and accept that...in fact I'm reading and writing and we finally talked for the 1st time since...she broke off all communication....after it happened.
I am good with all in the world.
our gestures, have been accepted. My next response will  be a concluding note.
She confirmed her character...I was correct she is an amazing woman, just shit happened and we over reacted towards each other.

WondersOfTheWrld 750 reads
posted
21 / 41

I hope the OP knows you don't speak for many of us by calling him an idiot. The OP is someone who made a bad choice. If I thought he was an idiot, I'd probably just keep that to myself than name call b/c it's not very productive. You don't speak for us all on this thread, just an FYI.

Dr Who revived 702 reads
posted
22 / 41

Each member has the SAME right to express their opinion as the next member.

If the OP is that stupid (and given his OP...he might be) to read anything into any comment here...maybe he'll advance YOU fees and shit to screw him over as well?

Posted By: WondersOfTheWrld
I hope the OP knows you don't speak for many of us by calling him an idiot. The OP is someone who made a bad choice. If I thought he was an idiot, I'd probably just keep that to myself than name call b/c it's not very productive. You don't speak for us all on this thread, just an FYI.

Angela_Petite2 See my TER Reviews 1073 reads
posted
23 / 41

Also a few things more to add You did mention she had changed her provider name and you may not know how many times other than what she may have told you. Because you consider her to be a friend you may believe everything she tells you.You paid for alot. Flight- hotel- half the session- fee food and she wanted to change her room or hotel or both??? I'm sorry but I have to ask - W T F !!!!  The only word that comes to mind is GREED.

If she made a promise to you to pay you back then she should but givin the series of actions on her part
I beg to differ that she will carry out her promise and pay you at LEAST a couple of hundred a month until the flight and fee are repaid.Until then , I would not give her the time of day to consider seeing her until she has met her commitment.And as far as you saying you're sorry to her for showing your emotions? STOP once is enough and once in a public forum is more than enough.

If you were a different guy who took money from her or haggled the rate you bet she would be blasting
it all over the boards and black lists.But I can tell that you are a kindhearted man who treated her like
ROYALTY where unwarranted.You brought her food and other items she enjoys too? You make a point
when you mention that she caused conflict with other locals too as her dissing you had an impact on some other locals income . If we added that in she would be up s#%ts creek to the territory and the provider who took a loss too.

I will close in saying that should the provider read this that she too would frown down upon a visiting provider taking from one of her regulars when he could have seen her ,pulling a stunt like this to a man.Being sick is one thing.If she was competent enough to board a plane and drive herself home she is not so sick where she cannot see what she has done and then get mad at you for showing some emotions.Being a thief in this industry is a huge NO NO and there is no place for audacity where she is concerned. And yes I would want to know as a caution to my own clients. So come on spill and look
out for your fellow hobbyst brothers too. I am sorry this happened to you.

(((Hugs)))
Angela



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Posted By: London Rayne
she played you big time. For me, a deposit is a GOLDEN booking meaning, no way in hell I am going to cancel that date regardless of how good another offer might be. Just a regular booking, is not guaranteed on my end because I have gotten canceled on far too many times to count on anyone showing up, but a deposit? Flight and hotel paid for in advance? She's a bitch...no bones about it. I am a bitch too now, but one with integrity ha ha. You just don't do things like this on principle alone!  You think she would have had the common sense to tell the other guy not to review her, but alas...hooktards don't think!


You need to review her, and let others know. You've gone through the trouble of outing her in a way here, so why not do the review? Or, does she have you in a spot where you can't review her? You had to know her real name to book the flight and hotel right? Or, did you send her the money to do that? Either way, she owes you every dime you paid her or a make up date, not that you would even want to fk her now lol.

harborview 10 Reviews 725 reads
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24 / 41

I seriously doubt it.  Some are bigger than others.  It comes from being human.  We need to cut each other some slack.  
HV

MagicMedic 5 Reviews 838 reads
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25 / 41

Never tell me what I should say. I certainly have no desire to speak for anyone other than myself.

I tired of reading reply after reply saying the same thing with the OP then defending what he did and not taking the advice given. Therefore acting like an idiot, and it's obvious there is more than one one these boards.

MM

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Angela_Petite2 See my TER Reviews 752 reads
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26 / 41
ocaptain69 732 reads
posted
27 / 41

mrfisher,
I agree on many fronts with you.
Thx for your thoughts.
To be frank, the details are true, and I felt a situation like this is warranted a disscussion. Going into this discussion, I felt she was very good person.  now, after a discussion, thix aftrnoon, I know she is.
As a man, a gentleman at that...I adhere to a personal code of  conduct. I would never, nor will I ever.
To call a provider to the mat for cash and dash is one thing.....ours had extenuating circumstances.
To personally out someone w their private info, and involve ones family is reprehensible to no end, and tears at every fiber of my being. This is what happened to her no too long ago. And thus her moral dilemna... And the ingredient I unintentionally unlocked.
Thx mrfish

mrfisher 115 Reviews 685 reads
posted
28 / 41

There are a few episodes in my hobby life that are still not settled, and probably will never be, and that always sucketh.

ocaptain69 772 reads
posted
30 / 41

Angela,
thank you for your thoughts
It was important that we not read into the situation, and try to see the forest from the trees. i needed to meticulously detail the events, and our personal friendship....
That being said, we have finally spoken to each other..... today, and as difficult as it was for her and I to reach our respective decisions.  I believe we are both content w/ the outcome. I am good w/ her.
In our discussion she mentioned some thing that happened not long ago.... to me it was as reprehensible an act as it gets period. The innate response "wants to rip the Asshole who did "this act" to shreds"  The crap "the Guy" did, regardless the provider, shall be be condoned.    (Sigh) Being Cool, The civil thing to do is to make sure this guy never hobbies again.
As I stated I was conflicted, not highly though...... Enough to question why I had the urge to go against my gut instincts.... i did not, and will not....  a few folks on here validated my thoughts, thank you, others were just pure sh**.
Upon speaking with her, She renewed my resolve I had in her. She, like many, is one of the Fabulous Ladies we men are fortunate to have here.
thank you for your response.


tps7c 5 Reviews 695 reads
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31 / 41

This sounds like something that happened to me with just a regular girl.  I paid for her plane ticket to come up and visit, she winds up fucking some other dude, saw me for maybe 30 minutes (no sex), and then left!!  LMAO!!!  We've all been there.

I have a better one.  I took this girl out, bought her a new pair of boots, and paid for drinks at a bar that night.  she goes to the bathroom and out of the corner of my eye I see her talking to some guy.  Ok, no biggie, she's going home with me, right?  Well, suddenly she wants to go to this other bar, so we go.  Funny enough, he shows up there.  So his friend is running interference on me, and the dude is chatting up my girl.  Finally it was closing time and I said fuck it and go to leave, so she comes running out and says oh we owe $50 for the tab.  I wound up paying for his drinks!!!  I figured this would end it and she'd leave with me.  So, she says to follow him to his place around the corner and he's going to pay me back.  Go to the guy's house, he has no money.  He also has two male roommates that are running screen on me.  Long story short, she stayed with him and I left, lol.  Yes it stung, but here I am laughing about it years later!

StraightCountry 3 Reviews 766 reads
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32 / 41

I think you are having trouble realizing she is more important to you than you are to her.  If she really cared about you she would not have left without letting you know.  It is too easy to call, text, or email at a moments notice.  They are many points along the way where your "spidey sense" should have went off.  

The only comfort I can offer is at least you are not Manti Teo with a dead imaginary girlfriend.  

My advice, move on and find a new ATF.

ocaptain69 705 reads
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33 / 41

I want to thank everyone for their thoughts, Good, Bad, and Indifferent.
and to clarify the intent of this post:
1.  This was a real event, no BS, and the Facts as I see them.
2.  I tried best I could to represent her situation.
3.  These events happen all too often, as a post they are read, and never responded to by many, yet serve as food for thought. This one contained several variables that needed to be entered into the equation before an answer was rendered.  This was not as  black and white as it seemed, just a couple shades away....
4.  I was conflicted about a further course of action, though not really,  I stated as much.  I was looking for validation of Instincts I had, both Good and Bad, and the rationale.  I have received them....Thank You....... This is a highly Human and personal business YMMV. take the good with bad.  This post I hope shall steer folks to the "proper side" of our relationships

5.  We are individuals and through all our strengths and foibles we have our own set of values, codes of conduct, etc... Mine ...... I prefer to be respectful at all levels, treat a lady as such, don't ask for something for nothing...again respect., in short, A Gentleman.

Conclusion:   Today, We finally made phone contact.  Though she rightfully blasted my phone w/ a dozen texts before we finally talked......she did so from a point of Fear.  
We have shared some intimate details of our lives over the course of the last few months, I know her real name, some family stuff etc..And she does mine.   As I stated in the body... that information goes to My Grave, regardless what was to transpire.  I walk this earth as a Gentle Soul,  with a Passionate Heart, and an Erotic Libido...... "I do no Harm"
Some time ago she was outed to her family.........God that hurts so bad!!!!!!!, How evil a thing to do to anyone. Unfortunately that happens too often. It must STOP!!!!!
She was also fearful I would post her Name, and out her on the Boards.  I Would NOT, nor Will I EVER.
She is an incredible woman.  Intelligent, Good Nature d, Funny, Passionate, etc....... this is her livelyhood...... for now, and I will never Impinge on any ones ability to make a living.  
I enjoy the services each and every Erotic Muse with whom I Dance, and will gladly compensate as appropriate.  lol, as I write this one of our 1st songs popped up on I tunes... "Santa Marie Del Buen Ayre".
We have come to terms and are content with each others gestures.
She knows how I've adored one of her familial relationships and allowed her to strengthen it....
I wish her well and hope some day we can be friends again.
Be Well

Zangari 778 reads
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34 / 41

Posted By: ocaptain69
Conclusion:   Today, We finally made phone contact.  Though she rightfully blasted my phone w/ a dozen texts before we finally talked…---snip---.
The people who flamed you were right.  You're a doormat & providers will treat you accordingly.  
Posted By: ocaptain69
She is an incredible woman.  Intelligent,  Good Nature d, Funny, Passionate, etc .
Everyone got that?  One day after the original post, she's all of these things now, etc.  
Posted By: ocaptain69
 I walk this earth as a Gentle Soul,  with a Passionate Heart, and an Erotic Libido...I enjoy the services each and every Erotic Muse with whom I Dance --snip--.
(cough)  We should hook you up with Rose, the chimerical bohemian nymph. I hope this whole thing was a  troll.

crazyshit 651 reads
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35 / 41

And yet you pushed her to come out a day later.

That's playing with fire, and even though you are TECHNICALLY correct, in the end you ended up with less than nothing.  So what did you accomplish?  The ability and the justification to write a post on the board?

Good trade, buddy.

ocaptain69 749 reads
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36 / 41

Only morons like you troll the boards to make comments on sh**, and fail to understand the context....you have the uncanny gift of being beyond a f***tard.
Paul Simon's half century old quote applies here "a man hears what he want's to hear and disregards the rest"
The subject of my post knows what is, and there are a few provider readers who know me (stay anonymous on this one ladies) who had no clue about this event, and will never know beyond myself.....the two of us  only know the trueness of this... I'm not looking for your F****** approval either....your the last one I'd associate with anyway, and the reason tnere's so much sh*** on here.. Your attitude about the ladies on here is f**** retarded. I wouldn't blame them for not seeing you...... Your probly the A******, that would personally out her or anyone else. You evil b*******. I have my reason to be anonymous here......whats your f***** reason for lurking in  the shadows, trolling the boards, holding your pinhead sized dick with tweezers, making pea brained comments..... Your just the one of the dicks in the world that makes life shitty for everyone 'cause your puny, pathetic life sucks...... Unfortunantely you'll never get your inflated head out of anally rentive tight a** to see the sunshine, anytime soon.
When you do enlighten us on what its like to have you head buried in shit your entire life....
Oh well.... I knew this would come with the territory...

London Rayne See my TER Reviews 734 reads
posted
37 / 41

There is no reason on God's green earth that YOU (a client) should have to be the one putting up with nonsense like this from a HOOKER. If you so choose, you made your own bed and I wish you luck, but my advice is to let this one go and start seeing more providers for less time. You've gotten waaaaaaay too attached to this one, and it's not pretty.

Dr Who revived 720 reads
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38 / 41

Here's the story in a nutshell....

She fucked a dude on YOUR dime...and will do so again.

And now she's suckered you back in...kind of...the reality is YOU won't let it go.  So she said whatever she had to to shut you up already!

Make sure you pay for her to come back to see you again...maybe the second time around you'll realize what a putz you are.

And if it's in ChiTown...and she's a petite gal...let me know so I can fuck her when she's here...on your dime of course!

Posted By: ocaptain69
I want to thank everyone for their thoughts, Good, Bad, and Indifferent.
and to clarify the intent of this post:
1.  This was a real event, no BS, and the Facts as I see them.
2.  I tried best I could to represent her situation.
3.  These events happen all too often, as a post they are read, and never responded to by many, yet serve as food for thought. This one contained several variables that needed to be entered into the equation before an answer was rendered.  This was not as  black and white as it seemed, just a couple shades away....
4.  I was conflicted about a further course of action, though not really,  I stated as much.  I was looking for validation of Instincts I had, both Good and Bad, and the rationale.  I have received them....Thank You....... This is a highly Human and personal business YMMV. take the good with bad.  This post I hope shall steer folks to the "proper side" of our relationships

5.  We are individuals and through all our strengths and foibles we have our own set of values, codes of conduct, etc... Mine ...... I prefer to be respectful at all levels, treat a lady as such, don't ask for something for nothing...again respect., in short, A Gentleman.

Conclusion:   Today, We finally made phone contact.  Though she rightfully blasted my phone w/ a dozen texts before we finally talked......she did so from a point of Fear.  
We have shared some intimate details of our lives over the course of the last few months, I know her real name, some family stuff etc..And she does mine.   As I stated in the body... that information goes to My Grave, regardless what was to transpire.  I walk this earth as a Gentle Soul,  with a Passionate Heart, and an Erotic Libido...... "I do no Harm"
Some time ago she was outed to her family.........God that hurts so bad!!!!!!!, How evil a thing to do to anyone. Unfortunately that happens too often. It must STOP!!!!!
She was also fearful I would post her Name, and out her on the Boards.  I Would NOT, nor Will I EVER.
She is an incredible woman.  Intelligent, Good Nature d, Funny, Passionate, etc....... this is her livelyhood...... for now, and I will never Impinge on any ones ability to make a living.  
I enjoy the services each and every Erotic Muse with whom I Dance, and will gladly compensate as appropriate.  lol, as I write this one of our 1st songs popped up on I tunes... "Santa Marie Del Buen Ayre".
We have come to terms and are content with each others gestures.
She knows how I've adored one of her familial relationships and allowed her to strengthen it....
I wish her well and hope some day we can be friends again.
Be Well

Dr Who revived 634 reads
posted
39 / 41

By posting this love story on a public board that can be easily googled....but your pathetic overinflated ego caused you to report this sick love story.

Go and bash those who have said their opinions from your ONE sided story.  Just know that it's painfully obvious to most that YOU were played.  And now you are claiming that you are ready to get played..Part Deux!!

The only reason some moron posts this drivel is to make themselves feel better....so, do you?

Posted By: ocaptain69
Only morons like you troll the boards to make comments on sh**, and fail to understand the context....you have the uncanny gift of being beyond a f***tard.
Paul Simon's half century old quote applies here "a man hears what he want's to hear and disregards the rest"
The subject of my post knows what is, and there are a few provider readers who know me (stay anonymous on this one ladies) who had no clue about this event, and will never know beyond myself.....the two of us  only know the trueness of this... I'm not looking for your F****** approval either....your the last one I'd associate with anyway, and the reason tnere's so much sh*** on here.. Your attitude about the ladies on here is f**** retarded. I wouldn't blame them for not seeing you...... Your probly the A******, that would personally out her or anyone else. You evil b*******. I have my reason to be anonymous here......whats your f***** reason for lurking in  the shadows, trolling the boards, holding your pinhead sized dick with tweezers, making pea brained comments..... Your just the one of the dicks in the world that makes life shitty for everyone 'cause your puny, pathetic life sucks...... Unfortunantely you'll never get your inflated head out of anally rentive tight a** to see the sunshine, anytime soon.
When you do enlighten us on what its like to have you head buried in shit your entire life....
Oh well.... I knew this would come with the territory...

ocaptain69 698 reads
posted
40 / 41

Unfortunately even you can't read .
thx though,
I'll consider the source next time you OYO


-- Modified on 1/20/2013 2:41:51 PM

Dr Who revived 854 reads
posted
41 / 41

But apparently MY interpretation of YOUR OP (ooppss...did you out yourself  LOL) seems to be YOUR issue.

And consider the source...hysterical.

Unless you have had lunch with me (or anyone here)...I would never take any of this drivel as anything more than pure entertainment.

So...have you paid for the hooker to come back yet?  To Chicago?

Posted By: liamdoherty
Unfortunately even you can't read .
thx though,
I'll consider the source next time you OYO

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