Where are you all??? You are my kryptonite…. The young ones that seem to believe they are worth $$$$ and non GFE are taking over… The Colombians…. The Brazilians…. Where are the old school ladies???? What’s going on out here? Covid not only has ruined a lot of things but its seems to have put a label of entitlement with these price gouges.
Now, stop one second. That has nothing to do with the matures. It just has to do with during those days it was more fun. Maybe I’m not taking the chances anymore or TOFTT but I’m afraid to. I just got blocked from a provider. She was $1000 and wanted a “non-refundable” 20% deposit. For the first time ever I was going to pay the deposit because she was everything I was looking for. When she told me that she wasn’t sure where she was going to be staying either in the suburbs or the city I held back and asked her “let me now what you decide”. Understand, I don’t know where you’re at but in my city there is a HUGE difference between the city and burbs (that’s another topic) like an hour to an hour an a half. I never heard back so I asked whats up and she responded “You didn’t want to deposit so…”. I responded why would I pay a “non-refundable” deposit when you don’t even know where you are staying. Her respond…. “I don’t like your attitude”.. Ghosted from that point on. She EVEN deleted me from her OF page. Where’s the old school? The one’s that still love to play… The one’s that still love to dress up without being asked…. The one’s that still have an elegance and class? I miss the touring one pre-covid. Hell!!! I took a chance with one of the Brazilian’s at full price and got hit after 10 mins… “ONE POP!!! ONE POP!!” I literately looked around like I was on some kinda funny camera show. That’s all… Haven’t been out here because haven’t had a lot to contribute. Am I the only one finding the frustration anymore? SPYup, Inflation/COVID seems to have wrecked the fabric of civil society. I reached out to a younger, non-AAMP provider who I'd seen a few times pre-COVID; told her that I was glad to see her back .. she replied with a snippy, "stop wasting my time" and blocked me.
Judging from the reviews in the South SF Bay (San Jose) area, the top 25 girls from the 5 big K-houses are getting 95% of the business. Probably from the simple fact that their PO's are on point, respond promptly to booking requests, and the girls turn in quality, consistent sessions in safe, clean, well-appointed cribs.
It's the whole McDonald's / Starbucks Quality Cleanliness Service and Value (QCSV) model, which haters use the "K-Bot" pejorative, but they are making the $$$$ ...
The times have made it even worse with prior favorites of providers who are 10 years older now. I tried to reconnect with a few providers I had seen over 7 or 10 years ago. Which had great sessions. Now one doesn't do GFE anymore, all Covered it seems, and just does FBSM. And then ghosted me when I asked about how her services changed and the prices increased by 40% for the same time with less services. Ungrateful, and claimed she didn't remember me, after I had given her a 9/9 about eight years ago and also got a p411 ok from her too back then, now all she gets are 7/6, 5/5, because she's just pushing the fbms with covered now and getting the horny crowd on pri-vate de-lights in quantity and numerable vague reviews there (rather than detailed like here on TER) rather than this dead TER traffic site anymore.
I consider myself a mature MILF & am a top rated VIP companion. I have great reviews. Check me out! Unfortunately, some fellas are chasing unicorns…
This board was throbbing with info, laughter and banter. It really is no more. I don’t see the old school names anymore. They pop in and out. Covid and the bottom feeders have ruined every thing. The bottom feeder’s are $600 on up.
I’m going to get pounded but I will stick to my guns…
Show me a girl that’s 1K plus and I’ll show you a $500…
Point is whats the difference anymore?
I love the “2 hour min” girls…. WTF??? I don’t wanna be your friend. I don’t wanna talk… and if you are hot enough I’, out in 30….
Anyone needs a manager… Please let me know
I’ll triple your money with those business plans.
twice but never booked an appt in all of the years I have been touring Illinois. Just toured Suburbs of Illinois last month.
What I will also say from a provider standpoint Covid has made more than a few guys in to timewasters. Seems while sitting on their couch they have perfected their timewasting by continuous messages and never a legit booking.
I appreciate the gents who are really serious and is looking for a great time with reputable ladies at all rate ranges.
So not sure what the problem is. But there are many mature providers in Illinois that are not 1k
My .02
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Finding anyone. Your posts make you sound like a raging lunatic.
I'm getting back into the swing of things from a long break, nevertheless, have I lost my touch of being an elegant sexy classy provider with integrity spunk, and freakiness. It just comes naturally to me.
privilege and entitlement once prevalent only among the new guard is getting worse and continues to spread. The bad behavior is reeking and others are noticing.
Nice.
I'm in Sunnyvale Ca though, but I'm exactly the lady you described. We're out here 😘
While back a provider on twitter said that "clients need to learn that not even a kiss is guaranteed and should lower their expectations of what would happen during a date".
I get that YMMV on one thing or another, but on everything?
It used to be said that the men were entitled...
Well, for hundreds or thousands of $$$ we are entitled to something more than a platonic date. Are the gals entitled to rip us off entirely?
Every Sex Worker knows this is a field about sex work, not just holding hands.
Anyone here want to volunteer for a $1G platonic date? Quite the steal!!
whose menu selection is quite extensive; except that kissing - even a peck on the lips - is verboten.
In a way it is kind of endearing, and I have to respect that.
Maybe a kiss is not just a kiss after all.
A Cy is just a Cy.
whose menu selection is quite extensive; except that kissing - even a peck on the lips - is verboten.
In a way it is kind of endearing, and I have to respect that.
Maybe a kiss is not just a kiss after all.
As time goes by.
Hi there, I’m a provider, I was several years out of the game, I’m returning to play, and I was just looking how is everything now… I’m located in florida… many many girls overhere, I can tell you can find low girls for I can see in their ads, and upscale ladies, many of them (general) looks to me like their don’t guarantee the quality of their date, maybe I can be wrong, but that what looks to me… I think the good clients need to make good homework to try to find those providers that are really worth it.
Sorry if you can’t completely understand what I mean, I’m thinking in Spanish and sometimes things doesn’t go right when I write in English… anyway… About kisses… I believe is not safe to do it because COVID still here, it’s not something like if the girl are nice or not, is just safety, in my opinion, in another era or time, I usually kiss my friends, but now, is something that you have too take seriously… I mean, you guys can have fun, but be responsible at the time…
I noticed also, some girls are rude in their ads… I don’t know if is because of COVID, because some of them are younger… but my point is, you guys need to be carefully and go through those trusty webs to find a good providers because, there still having a old school providers, just have to look for it… not easy I know, but nothing is easy in this moment…
I’ve lost count of the number of threads lamenting how bad things have gotten in P4P. Really?
I don’t doubt the accuracy of the bad experiences related, but do all those anecdotal data really reflect the state of things generally? My anecdotal data are very different: In the last year I’ve met several new, beautiful playmates, had at least a dozen kind-blowing duos, and even joyfully reentered the massage playground. There were only a couple of duds in there, and those had nothing to do with demands for ID or deposits. In fact, my consistent refusal to provide either ID or a deposit has cost me . . . Nothing! 2022 was pretty fucking awesome.
And lest we forget, those of us who were engaged in P4P back in the late 80s and well into the 90s painfully remember the numerous ripoffs, bait-and-switch dates, and just plain horrorshow of trying to find a date without reviews or even reliable ads. And sure there were some great experiences back then (I still have a special place in my heart for the B4L lineup—those were some lovely girls), but it was never a dirt cheap diversion; back when an hour with a nice lady cost 300, I was also making a heck of a lot less in salary.
Perhaps someone will do a comprehensive study showing that things are better or worse today than they used to be. From my knothole, I can live with the increase in prices in exchange for the amazing experiences I’ve had lately. Good luck to everyone here and I hope you all have a great 2023.
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I keep reading how hobby in old days was better, how old TER was better, etc etc etc. Just usual OLD PEOPLE talking. Basically if you are talking about good old days - you are old 😂😂😂
I'm old enough to remember the bad old days before there was a TER, or even the internet.
In those days I took my chances answering ads from the personals ads in the back of weekly entertainment tabloids and hoped for the best. Believe me, I ended up with a lot of lulus back then.
When I started to use TER I found a bunch of fine gals, some of whom I still see to this day.
Yes, I'm a lot grumpier that I was 30-40 years ago, but there's good reasons for it. Things are always getting suckier in the long term - 2nd law of thermodynamics - entropy.
When you think about it, it's one of the best benefits of growing old - getting to bitch about stuff - they even make movies about it. So, I'm going to continue to enjoy it. Pay attention to it. You'll pick up pointers that will come in handy some day.
I know plenty of old folks that are a pleasure to be around. I think that miserable old people used to miserable young people, maybe they just didn't know it yet.
The truth is that being happy, staying positive, feeling gratitude for what you do have, these are choices to be made and not the result of your circumstances in life. For every miserable billionaire walking the planet there are millions of those living paycheck to paycheck who couldn't be happier in life.
Who Help Themselves
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Folks we need to face some facts. When COVID hit, a number of providers retired, especially the older ones. Made perfectly good sense. One of the truisms of pandemics is there is always a labor shortage afterward. Fewer providers, more demand, simple economics. It will take a few more years for things to settle out. Yes, there are some rip-off girls out there, but there are far more ladies (notice the different term) who provide good service for what the market will bare. They are, after all, in business.
They know how to treat a man. Many still have awesome boobs too, despite being classified as cougars.
I am almost 43, but I don't advertise as a MILF because I never had kids, so I guess I think that would be false advertising? I don't deal with deposits and/or cancelation fees as to me it just seems like more hassle than it is worth. In my 11 years as a provider I have had maybe 10 NCNS and I just don't book with them again, not worth the headache. I keep my donation requests low because I despise negotiating and prefer to spend my time doing what I like with gents I enjoy spending my time with. Of course it is a business and every provider is going to run it the way they see fit, but I prioritize what is important to me and don't waste my time on the other mumbo jumbo.
SnakePliskken
Your MILF is in Absecon, NJ. Text me at (609) 892-3172
The quality of providers has gone down so have the clients in some regard. We exist but I don't know how many people take kindly to demands. Now if you had suggested an area then I could understand but there are so many times wasters I'm not at all surprised she didn't want to do the back and forth with you. I don't know if it's a provider issue maybe more of a personality conflict. Me personally, the fact you keep mentioning the "Columbian" girls would be a red flag to me. It doesn't seem nice and I prefer to hang out with gentlemen who respect others regardless of their nationality. This is only my perspective as a provider not fact, so don't come for me. lol. Maybe try booking a longer appointment so your "pops" aren't an issue.
I saw your website…
I won’t be coming for you.
And in post you mentioned “you keep mentioning Columbian’s”. Keep mentioning? Please count how many times I mentioned…
ONCE.
Just going to drop the mic there…
Not even a debate here.
Mandy you gave me nothing.
Hi All,
I took a long break during Covid and am just starting to ease back into things. I have always enjoyed reading the discussion boards and now is no exception. The OG's are out here. You just have to do your homework and the planets will align. In the 7-8 years Ive been a FBSM girl I have never asked for a deposit and never had a no show. I get how much research you guys do on your end to try to find the perfect fit for the desired experience you are looking for. Its nice to see some of my favorite posters like Mr. Fisher and Jaydalee. I find comfort in the familiar. I am sometimes surprised when I respond to a gentleman even if I am unavailable, and he expresses such surprise and gratitude. I just treat others like I want to be treated.This is a People business and Communication is key. I think the younger SW are spoiled a bit by the groundwork we ALL have created in this industry, and since the younger generation basically has lost the ability to communicate effectively other than short hand text messages it just appears rude. At the end of the day we all seek authentic connection and don't want to feel like the meter is running or that the experience is transactional.
The plea should be to these idiots who accept this behavior. Some of these providers are getting bolder and bolder, I have even come across some ads where providers are asking for deposits/booking fees separate from the hourly rate. Separate as in the deposit is not a part of the rate. FOH
Some have retired but still quite a few mature ladies with excellent reputation/reviews. I see some have replied to your comments. Mature women are beautiful lovers, who know how to treat a man - some of the best dates I ever had.