I see gents in my home and I love to decorate for the holidays, and I go all out!
I get a lot of compliments on how cozy it is....
;do you all notice the decorations i a incall and does it affect your experience?
I really care less if the overhead involved in that is reflected in the hobbying rate. ![]()
I'm not an interior decorator, and I'm not staying the night there, so I really could care less about the design and furnishings. It's nice, but let's put it this way: If there are two equivalent providers and the only difference is the incall place, let's just say that the incall place isn't gonna be the deciding factor.
You have only a few contributions, and some of your contributions were pretty obnoxious, and none were altogether helpful.
You seem like very possessive of this board. Anyone who is new, or is not a part of the "good ole boys" club of the GD board, doesn't get good responses from you. (You have not been here for more than a month! How DARE you be more than a wallflower in the elite club of TER!)
Seriously, it does not matter how few contributions, how few reviews etc, someone has...we are all allowed and welcome to post in this forum.
Relax. This is the internet.
I don't know if you followed this thread, but take a look again.
The OP asked a question with regard to incall decorations. I gave a very direct answer: It doesn't matter as long as the place is clean. Zing responds with a smartass comment, one that completely glosses over what I just said. In fact, he calls me a smartass.
I merely pointed out that doing a search shows that he has few posts himself...all of which are completely useless and devoid of any kind of information. And all of which display a smartass tone.
This is not my board or anyone else's. Please do not confuse me posting a lot with this being MY board. It isn't MY board. I just happen to be able to type faster than most people, and as a result, I contribute more than the average person. London Rayne is another example of someone who contributes a lot, but she hardly considers this HER board.
You seem defensive because we scrapped on your thread about courtesan vs. geisha vs. whatever. I answered directly and honestly about that, and I dunno...maybe you just didn't like the answer.
growing your business rather than attacking certain posters on the GD board.
I would try to "get to know you" but there is no link to any reviews.
Wait until the likes of Catrina (meow meow) and Saturn will come out swinging...
Time for run for cover buddy !!!
There is a subset of hookers that think that we are supposed to just take them at their word that they are legitimate providers without reading their reviews or going to their website.... LMAO...
Thats an interesting statement coming from someone who claimed in his reviews that he spent 7-8 months in the hobby with UTR's...
There seems to be a subset of clients who believe that legitimate providers have to have reviews and yet spend time with UTR's who typically dont have reviews, because they are UTR..
Would that make Curly hypocritical or contra-dick-tory ? Hmmm *twirls hair*
Is this more of that client double standard Dr Jekyll/Mr.Hyde talk that we have grown so fond of ?
Should have charged a deposit, but I wont pay one..
Should have screening protocols, but wont share information
and now
Should have reviews to be considered legitimate, but I dont always see legitimate providers..
Gosh, you could see how one might become confused with all the rules in your reality..
I have a website, I m also listed with P411 and Date-Check,, now how on earth did I manage that without reviews,, geee wizzzzz, things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmm.. ![]()
Oh thats right, because Ive worked in the Sex Industry for a few years as consult and support before making the decision to be a Provider myself, and do not believe one has to subject themselves and their private affairs as masturbation fodder for the viewing public..
What makes a provider legitimate,, Simply going in public and saying,, "Yes, I saw her, she was great and I would recommend her"
Or having to go into explicit detail about the encounter ?
Explicit details do not make a provider legitimate..
Reviews are nothing more than Highschool jock talking that puts a price tag on those services ,, which last time I checked were not so legal in most states, so when they reformat the review process not to require jock talking and price points, I'll be more than happy to have one submitted.
I believe in the decriminalization of sex work,, whereas what happens between two consenting adults is their business regardless if its for P4P or Civvie and that its not Federal, State, or Local Authorities business as well as nobody else's business.
Reviews should be used to identify, cons, rip-offs and danger , the same way the national blacklist is used. And just like P411 used a simple "OK" system and Date-check uses a simple "Recommended" system to identify legitimate clients, I think the same should be applied towards providers.
What's good for the goose is good for the gander,
Could you imagine if providers started writing reviews and ranking clients? lmao
If your privacy and discretion is one of my top priorities, them my privacy and discretion should be yours as well.
And as Saturn and countless other providers have said, the Hobby Community in the grand whole of the Sex Industry is rather small..
much like your overrated, rather foppish and unimaginative opinion..
And after reading your reviews,, Unimaginative is a spot on adjective to describe you
Thats why I am elated at the fact that you will never be one of my clients ![]()
I happen look for those that are creative and think outside the box and its painfully obvious
all you care about is crawling inside of one .. so very 2 dimensional *yawns*
Meow Meow
~Cat xoxo
P.S. Is this the part where I get to blatantly put my url in for my website as proof of my legitimacy?
lmao
Most of your very lengthy lecture is OK from my POV...which obviously isn't terribly important to you anyhow.
And sure...when YOU and your hooker pals are paying ME...feel free to write up whatever fictional accounts of the liaison you'd like. And I guess those restaurants you tend to frequent often (based on your pics on your site) also are free to review YOUR eating habits?
And no sweat...I'll never be a john of yours. I tend to prefer gals that are in shape. I absolutely have NO interest in paying a BBW anything in this game. But there's some mangina's that gravitate to the BBW's out here...I just have no ideas as to why they would pay for it...but to each their own.
But if you aren't hurting for business...I guess eating your way through your fees is a way to go! And given your condescending bullshit on how you worked behind the scenes...yeah, I suspect there is a very good reason why that happened LOL
-- Modified on 11/28/2012 4:28:10 PM
Step Right Up Folks come see the most Predictable response in the world!!
uh ohhhh,, someone got their man panties into a bundle and wasnt so happy with how I responded and figured he would "put me in my place" by bringing up the fat slams.
(( I would have answered this sooner but I was in an appointment, how ironic
))
Is it something to do with being old that makes it so typical and predictable with these fat girl responses?
Senility is setting in and death is knocking on your back door so you want to get in as many pot shots as possible on things like weight?
BUWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Tell me something Grampa, how does it hurt you,, if I dont hate myself?
You do realize there was nothing intelligent or educated about your response, just that you sounded just like some angsty old man with an axe to grind against fat chicks..
Please by all means keep on regurgitating the same old material so it gives me a reason to blatantly emasculate you and, remind you how weak and feeble minded you really are.
What a manly display of mental prowess when you can dig into your bag and pull out the " I hate Fat Girl" shtick.. *yawns*
((Hold on a sec, im grabbing a doughnut)) *scarfs down the doughnut, drinks some milk*
*BURRRRP*
Just so you know, for what I make, that was pretty god damn big doughnut ![]()
But I want to commend you ,, I thought it was real sweet and very white knight of you to swoop in and protect Curly like that.. tell me when is the wedding? Did you ride a white horse ? Its so romantic how you just defended his honor like that ![]()
You know what my favorite thing is, that when a provider, skinny, BBW, athletic etc.. has a strong opinion and a facetious comeback with it ,, that its automatically considered condescending..
Yet when we have to digest the bullshit that you refer to as "experience" , we have to take it as "friendly advice" ,, lol
Oh no, she said she works behind the scenes,, that must mean there is something up or shady, or out of character.. booooo hoooooooo
How's about the simple and factual truth that I respect privacy and discretion above all things , for my clients and for myself, and that anytime a Provider is vocal about that, its rubs you old times the wrong way because they dont want to play in your sandbox and you have temper tantrums over it or you play the whole "burn the witch" card.
Really just like you, those predictable comebacks are getting old, flaccid, limp and impotent..
And I'm sure those are words you can relate to ![]()
Uh ohhh,, A provider who doesnt want to play nice and bend to you,, whats an old dame like you going to do ?
Let me go get my tissues ready for the onslaught of "you're so dumb and you're so fat" comeback..
I'll need something to wipe the tears from my eyes after laughing at how daft you really are.
Meow meow
~Cat xoxo
Seems like the censorship is to make sure that newbie posters don't get slammed too hard.
Suffice it to say that your reply is pathetically lame, and typical of a newbie.
Needless to say my real reply goes onto more graphi detail. LOL
You are legitimate. Now, I accept it, but wouldn't have accepted it without the proof...
As far as UTR industry goes, I never said that there isn't one. As you noted, from my reviews, that I have spent quite some time with UTR girls.
I am just not going to believe someone is UTR unless I know them personally or someone else (other provider or hobbyist) vouching for them. The UTR providers I spent time with were vouched by another provider friend of mine, who hired them to work for her when she stopped working in the industry.
P.S. I read CPA's response before I read yours...
Also now Saturn's time to come out of the closet...
-- Modified on 11/28/2012 5:51:41 PM
Well considering meow meow has a website and is obviously advertising somewhere...how the fuck does that make her UTR?
And my guess is that the lack of reviews is by design. But I suspect that there are some out there under a prior stage name.
Now Saturn...she has no site that she is willing to share here....and that seems more likely that she is closer to a UTR hooker. But as even she's commented, she's getting johnnie boys from somewhere. And the likelihood is she's advertising under a different stage name as well...hence not UTR either.
There's plenty of brown envelope hookers who babble on the boards...and I doubt if any of them are UTR. But that's just my opinion
And FWIW if a gal is really seeking to be UTR...why in the fuck is she on here babbling bullshit?
As I've said before...almost every hooker I've seen does not post here at all. That in and of itself makes them more UTR than any of the hookers with brown envelopes that babble they're UTR.
As far as UTR industry goes, I never said that there isn't one. As you noted, from my reviews, that I have spent quite some time with UTR girls.
I am just not going to believe someone is UTR unless I know them personally or someone else (other provider or hobbyist) vouching for them. The UTR providers I spent time with were vouched by another provider friend of mine, who hired them to work for her when she stopped working in the industry.
P.S. I read CPA's response before I read yours...
Also now Saturn's time to come out of the closet...
-- Modified on 11/28/2012 5:51:41 PM
have their own definitions of UTR. For me personally, UTR can't be found on the Internet.
No website...No reviews...Nothing..
Meow..meow.. is definitely not UTR. My argument with her wasn't about being UTR or not, it was about legitimacy, and yes she seems to have legit website...
**standing ovation applause*
** The crowds go wild**
**fanfare and ticket tape parade begins**
Now my life is complete, you accept me as legitimate so it must be true now right ?
Curly said I was ok,, so I must be ok,, you should make that a seal that I can put on my website..
lolol
ERRRRRRRR. Wrong answer.
As you have so eloquently stated in previous posts about it being "How Ladies chose to run THEIR business"
This is MY business, I run my ads, I do my own marketing, I pay myself out of my wages.
I file my paperwork,, its MY business,, not yours,, henceforth, I DEFINE IT, not you..
Its absolutely within your scope to agree with or not agree with how I run it, but whether your opinion of me is a "legitimate" or "not Legitimate" it is of little concern. Its still MY business and I DECIDE how its defined and run.
I became a "legitimate provider" when I had my first appointment..
Not because Curly decided to accept me as one..
See how that works?
MY body, MY Business ,, I operate it and maintain it the way I decide, not you..
And frankly if I wanted input ,, I'll get it from my clients and other providers, not from you.
One of the reasons I decided to throw my hat in and become a provider was so that I could better understand the women I work for when I do PA, Screening, Scheduling, Marketing and Business development consulting. Instead of looking at it from the outside in , I also thought it would benefit my secondary professions if I had experience under my belt as well, and be on the "inside" so to speak.
But, its just sex, and sex is pretty outstanding and awesome. And as much as I see the benefit of reviews and actually suggest TER to newer up and coming Providers as a marketing tool. For myself personally I think it takes away from the fun of sex when you walk into a session the same way a food critique walks into a restaurant. Instead of just truly enjoying the different flavor notes of the meal and reveling in the dish, in the back of your mind you are critiquing the entire experience.
I think its diminishing and minimizes the satisfaction of the event to have to write a paper about it afterwards instead of just taking in the color and flavor of the moment.
Whether you're a meat and potatoes kind of guy or you like things on the lighter side, its still a dish that should be savored and enjoyed. And some dishes you like others may not like, but why rob them of trying it out for themselves by throwing in how you thought the meat was overcooked when some else prefers their meat that is well done.
(( I love food references, must be a fat girl thing and plus im an amazing cook ))
No one needs to come out of the closet and voice up, , it basically boils down to personal preference.
There is no great "hobbying book of rules" we all have to adhere to and when its implied that there is I will vehemently oppose it,, because when it boils down to it ,,
its just sex and again sex is awesome,, and the more stipulations you put on it past the basics of having a fun and safe time it turns into a chore,, and I refuse to turn something I love doing into a chore.
K.I.S.S.
Savvy ?
meow meow
~Cat xoxo
P.S. I dont put much stock in the opinion of an old man on the brink of extinction with a chip on his shoulder because he thinks that all providers should be some particular cookie cutter type ..
Really I lose no sleep over it or clients,,
This is a buffet and there is a dish for every desire,, and to limit the dishes served is blatantly daft and ignorant,, there is something for everybody and to each their own ,,
..and their monger babble. They try it on every new lady..the whole are you legit crap. You nailed it though...we are as legit as the first guy we saw and that's all that matters. There is a huge ocean of great guys to see. Not all guys swim in a shallow pool.
So she'll need to justify her existence with those lengthy diatribes designed to make her feel better.
Too bad she can't get paid by the word...maybe she would be able to pay the rent on time that way!
Try and change up how you advertise and get a john or two to actually see you. It helps pay your rent and will get you off this board.
** The crowds go wild**
**fanfare and ticket tape parade begins**
Now my life is complete, you accept me as legitimate so it must be true now right ?
Curly said I was ok,, so I must be ok,, you should make that a seal that I can put on my website..
lolol
ERRRRRRRR. Wrong answer.
As you have so eloquently stated in previous posts about it being "How Ladies chose to run THEIR business"
This is MY business, I run my ads, I do my own marketing, I pay myself out of my wages.
I file my paperwork,, its MY business,, not yours,, henceforth, I DEFINE IT, not you..
Its absolutely within your scope to agree with or not agree with how I run it, but whether your opinion of me is a "legitimate" or "not Legitimate" it is of little concern. Its still MY business and I DECIDE how its defined and run.
I became a "legitimate provider" when I had my first appointment..
Not because Curly decided to accept me as one..
See how that works?
MY body, MY Business ,, I operate it and maintain it the way I decide, not you..
And frankly if I wanted input ,, I'll get it from my clients and other providers, not from you.
One of the reasons I decided to throw my hat in and become a provider was so that I could better understand the women I work for when I do PA, Screening, Scheduling, Marketing and Business development consulting. Instead of looking at it from the outside in , I also thought it would benefit my secondary professions if I had experience under my belt as well, and be on the "inside" so to speak.
But, its just sex, and sex is pretty outstanding and awesome. And as much as I see the benefit of reviews and actually suggest TER to newer up and coming Providers as a marketing tool. For myself personally I think it takes away from the fun of sex when you walk into a session the same way a food critique walks into a restaurant. Instead of just truly enjoying the different flavor notes of the meal and reveling in the dish, in the back of your mind you are critiquing the entire experience.
I think its diminishing and minimizes the satisfaction of the event to have to write a paper about it afterwards instead of just taking in the color and flavor of the moment.
Whether you're a meat and potatoes kind of guy or you like things on the lighter side, its still a dish that should be savored and enjoyed. And some dishes you like others may not like, but why rob them of trying it out for themselves by throwing in how you thought the meat was overcooked when some else prefers their meat that is well done.
(( I love food references, must be a fat girl thing and plus im an amazing cook ))
No one needs to come out of the closet and voice up, , it basically boils down to personal preference.
There is no great "hobbying book of rules" we all have to adhere to and when its implied that there is I will vehemently oppose it,, because when it boils down to it ,,
its just sex and again sex is awesome,, and the more stipulations you put on it past the basics of having a fun and safe time it turns into a chore,, and I refuse to turn something I love doing into a chore.
K.I.S.S.
Savvy ?
meow meow
~Cat xoxo
P.S. I dont put much stock in the opinion of an old man on the brink of extinction with a chip on his shoulder because he thinks that all providers should be some particular cookie cutter type ..
Really I lose no sleep over it or clients,,
This is a buffet and there is a dish for every desire,, and to limit the dishes served is blatantly daft and ignorant,, there is something for everybody and to each their own ,,
It was to the point and straightforward...If this is something that is rattling you, then don't think you would have been able to handle the "Real GD Board" which died a few months ago...
There is no Good Ole Boys' club here.. People who agree on some matters, will disagree on others.. CS and I have agreed on few things and disagreed on others...
As far as getting answer to your question, ChinaRose, you got what you deserved..You are 19 yr old kid, so granted that you don't understand all the aspects of the business..I was misty-eyed when I was 19 myself...
A lot of people here have been around the hobby for longer than 19 yrs... So go figure...
P.S R.I.P.... Real GD Board..
Then men I see would drop dead if I dared host in anything less than stellar, but if I were only charging 100 bucks, I doubt it would matter nor be expected. As CS said, when you go all out spending money on lavish incalls, it is certainly reflected in the rate...I would never use my own home to host for an illegal activity, so that leaves me choosing a hotels or an incalls. I prefer private homes.
There is so much more to providing than spreading your legs in some mid range hotel.
-- Modified on 11/28/2012 10:03:35 AM
Honest never has to = obnoxious, Internet tough guy!
The only reason I wouldn't ever meet someone in person is because of discretion. Most clients don't want others to know who they are, save for the guys who show up at M&Gs.
But I can assure you that in real life I am the same way I am on these boards.
The answer was pretty clear. I don't give a shit about the incall place other than it's clean and safe. That much shoulda been clear.
How obnoxious you are...
Oh self important one...
lmao
That's the pot calling the kettle black...
How about as long as it's not a trap house, or resembles a babies-R-us catalog.
I get a lot of compliments on how cozy it is....
;do you all notice the decorations i a incall and does it affect your experience?
once i dive into your delicious honey pot..nothing else really matters..
I get a lot of compliments on how cozy it is....
;do you all notice the decorations i a incall and does it affect your experience?
Dress it up and make it what you want. I enjoy the effort to make the experience special, don't worry about all these other folks . It's your experience as much as anyone elses . I love it when you go to all that trouble. Makes me feel special
plus I love having freshly baked goodies, so the house smells like cakes, sugar cookies etc
Nice touch! I think that greeting a woman in a nicely decorated setting can potentailly enhance the initial connection that I want to feel and thus ramp up the level of desire for what still lies ahead. Decorations for the holidays can be very personal and beautiful, even though once the personal decorations are removed, I would focus only on you!
Just kidding.
I wouldn't mind xmas decorations or lights as long as the place is clean.
Real xmas trees attract bugs, so that can be a problem.
a long time ago!
I have a beautiful real looking fake tree ![]()
That includes how the place is decorated. I'm not talking about a few things thrown over a mediocre room.
Holiday decorations are distracting, not erotic, possibly romantic but I'm not staying that long.
I think they are only distracting if you focus on them and oh if Christmas music is playing lol
No place to hang clothes. What's up with that?
I get a lot of compliments on how cozy it is....
;do you all notice the decorations i a incall and does it affect your experience?
I hate that. Your really being pampered.
lots of places to put cothes
If it puts you in the holiday mood, why not. Will it effect my experience, probably not, but if you're in the holiday "giving" spirit, it can't hurt.
I get a lot of compliments on how cozy it is....
;do you all notice the decorations i a incall and does it affect your experience?
I love the holidays and I love showing off my personality thru decorating![]()
I love to see decorations, and I would be very impressed by a really fabulous display.
I had to decorate 3 incalls plus my own damn house...broke again lol.
-- Modified on 11/28/2012 9:24:07 AM
Dear Ms. Rayne:
What are the determining factors that you have to entertain when picking a potential site for a London's Love Shack? Also what goes into the decorating to make it so exquisite? Finally what is the most favorite amenitie of your guest when visiting London's Love Shack?
how much time and money I put into them. I will say the smallest one, is still more than 2000 sq ft. and all have wet bars, fireplaces, porch, balcony, or deck overlooking the water. Of course, I share these expenses with other women who pay rent to use them per call. I could not afford them on my own.
Dear Ms. Rayne:
So you really an active member in the New Orleans Adult Companionship Professionals Cooperative. The girls are pooling their resources to mitigate their expenses.
Beats using a hotel when you're in a new city and I cook for these bitches too lol.
Dear Ms. Rayne:
I am just wondering because of the nature and scope of the work are a lot of touring providers that apprehensive to get a hotel? Also because of that fact would you be one of the safest games in town? Hence the fact that you would be host for the host. I didn't know that the trust factor would be so low where you are.
why so many?
for my agency, then as I met new indys and networked, we got one uptown, then another on the lake close to where I live. None are in my name.
That would be a pandering charge lol. New Orleans has major areas and what we call the North Shore, and it is about 30-45 min. to access each of those areas with traffic, so we have a spot in each major part. If you knew just how funny and demanding guys were here for the most part, you would know they won't drive 10 min. much less in afternoon traffic.
-- Modified on 11/28/2012 4:39:11 PM
Is this the reason you send a car to the airport to pick your out of town clients up?
due to nossy neighbors possibly getting suspicious and calling LE about too many visitors next door. I think that a nicely decorated incall is appreciated. I also agree that clean and neat are two very appropriate characteristics of a good incall location.
I have been to some incall locations where the only furniture is an old sofa bed with not much support for the weight of two active adults. No, I'm not a very big guy, my weight is around 200.
Question--does your decorations include mistletoe?
yes in 3-4 places lol
and I got lucky... my landlord met me thru this, and he knows what I do
also I am low volume, and
lastly I have very very un nosey neighbors
What if somebody is out to get the hosting provider and your there instead.
Heck yeah....decorations and anything else that expresses who you are, are definitely something I like
I collect penguins, so if you come to my house you will see lots of Penguins at the holidays and oh Disney stuff, I am a Disney fanatic lol
If I was traveling to a city I had never been to before and was apprehensive on getting a hotel, I would definitely seek someone like London out. Yeah, its ridiculous to say, "I trust you" without ever spending time with them, but if the provider has impeccable reviews and a stellar reputation, is there any reason NOT to trust the fact that she'll deliver as promised?
Hold the phone. You cook for your providers??? Let me reserve my ticket now...
in the business when they come to my city, and many have done the same for me over the years and I am very gracious. Many times a tour would have bombed had a friend not hooked me up with her own personal friends, and you reap what you sow.
Just kidding, but I think you notice the ambiance without paying attention to the detail. Clean, warm, and inviting (yes I'm still talking about the incall location well I guess the girl too) are what matters. Not necessarily a 10 ft Christmas tree with lights and ornaments. A fireplace and glass of wine, great music and company make the difference for me. Oh and location makes a big difference for me.
I light it every night just because ![]()
Having a lot of male friends, I can say, without hesitation, all you need is to show up
about location and not entertaining in some piece of crap, tiny hole of a place...and some don't.
Back or front seat of a car?
christmas tree is up and snowflakes hanging from window in appt room, or my bed. then theres porceline frosty and santa jars now above my samurai sword in living room.
I def think some like the homey atmosphere, i knwo it works well for em i get nervous in hotels doin appts there, i feel like the other guests will know n i will get pinched and i just tend to get more hesitant in hotels, I also have a whole floor to myself too so, i dont have to concern myself with neighbors at my incall.