first choice by March. Meanwhile, she holds your deposit hostage so you can't spend it with someone else after SHE is the one who cancelled, so its disingenuous to sit here and say you have never had a problem with deposits. You just admitted to one.
In my many years of hobbying, I've had very few negative experiences. One thing I've never done is paid a deposit. Even when the provider requires one, I go through the process and let her know I won't be paying ahead of time. I've been whitelisted a dozen times and I have rarely had trouble with getting references lined up in time. As a result, every time the provider has agreed to forego the deposit.
Except once. And this one was painful because she's a girl I've really wanted to see. Checks all of my boxes and looks like a very sweet person. While I'm pretty certain she's for real given her Twitter presence, she does not have any reviews. But bottom line is I'm just not willing pay ahead of time. I've had to do a late cancellation only once on all these years and I actually sucked it up and paid the fee.
Anyway here's my request: DON'T PAY DEPOSITS! If everyone refuses to do it, then deposits will fade away and we can go back to securing appointments based on well-earned reputations.
Refusing to pay a deposit -- which, like you, I have never done -- won't make them go away. So it will remain our prerogative to simply not see girls who insist on them.
I have never asked for or considered asking for a deposit though it has been offered on occasion and I have declined. To me personally it appears to be a rabbit hole. I have watched the repeated drama on here going back to far to remember re the failure and issues surrounding the deposits and alleged misapropriation thereof. I just don't need the stress of dealing with issues that will certainly arise should an appointment result in cancellation or no-show by either party, I like what I do and I would like to keep it that way. I also have no that is NO .... Cancellation Policy for the same reason, like threatening a child with punishment without ever following through it means little if not put to use , on the other hand exercise that Policy and the Gates of Hell may open up. No thanks, I am very thorough with getting to know a Prospect and making an assessment on reliability and sincerity. My judgement rarely fails me and I am good with that.
On the other hand I certainly understand particularly for those among us who are travelling these days that a deposit which may become a cancellation fee certainly would be of benefit to offsetting the cost of a venue out of pocket as a result of a NS. One of the reasons I quit travelling a few years ago was tht razors edge of will he won't be....... sonofabitch he did. Everyone has different boundaries and necessities and they should be respected or go find another lady. Ladies that have these policies and then do not enforce them are doing themselves and others no good at all. If I had a Prospect beat me up on my deposit policy to me that would be akin to negotiating my rates, seriously call someone else please.
As for a boycott of deposit seekers, I call BS ( much like a boycott of screeners) . A hard dick has a very simple thought process which has been proven too many times and there are too many new kids on the block who are not going to follow that mantra, they are going to seek and obtain what they want. A new kind of Provider a new kind of Client and new times added up equals substantial change .
Just my thoughts
Suzee the slut
but what are the chances of that ever happening? I am trying to think of a number less than zero. lol
I also agree with you about "beating a woman up" over her deposit policy, that's about as useful as a black guy challenging a "no AA" policy, I completely support the right of any business person to create all sorts of stupid policies regarding how they run their business, but I of course reserve the right to NOT see them because of said policies. AND I reserve the right to publicly ridicule them on internet fuck boards. lol
Just my thoughts
GaGambler the manwhore. lol
While I hate seeing the NBA policy, I did in my earlier less jaded days of mongering reach out to a select few providers who had NBA policies and ask "can an exception be made?" It did work a few times, now I just say fuck em and move on as soon as I see it.
Which makes me think about challenging some of these new deposit requirements just to test the waters.......nah, not worth it.
Several years ago there was a hot Asian girl who worked for an agency in Dallas, a "regular" agency not a K-Girl agency who had a "Caucasian only" policy which apparently extended to Blacks, Latinos, AND Asians as well. I didn't really think much of it when I saw her profile and hot pics and attempted to book an appointment with her only to get a "polite" message back from the booker informing me that "you do not meet the racial requirements of this provider, would you like to make a different selection?"
My first reaction was "FUCK that cunt" my second reaction was to try to tell her "I am not that kind of Asian" (I am born and raised here and I am actually a half breed Asian/White) but I quickly came to my senses and decided that even "if" she were to make an exception for me, did I REALLY want to see a woman with such narrow views and basically break my own cardinal rule of "I will beg for pussy, I will pay for pussy, but I will NOT beg to pay for pussy" and I quickly moved on to one of the other thousand or so hot women in Dallas competing for my business, but it did bug me for a while
I can only imagine how pissed off black guys get when confronted with "NBA" Policies. I know it's easy to say "we wouldn't have been a good fit anyhow" and I completely agree it's better to simply say "fuck em" and move on, but I can't imagine that at least on some level it's got to piss you off.
This past November I had scheduled with five providers who were touring. I only met with one of them, the others canceled. Three of the four who canceled required deposits when I scheduled them. Two of the ladies immediately refunded my deposits when they canceled. The third said she would hold on to my deposit until March, when she is planning on going to Nashville, and she has rescheduled me for then. If she doesn’t cancel again I don’t have a problem with this.
first choice by March. Meanwhile, she holds your deposit hostage so you can't spend it with someone else after SHE is the one who cancelled, so its disingenuous to sit here and say you have never had a problem with deposits. You just admitted to one.
in my 20+ years of hobbying ... twice i sent $ to girls i had seen many times before when they contacted me begging to help them out .. the agreement being these will be deposits for our next time together .. they agree.
when the time comes, "oh that was a gift" i still have to pay to see them again.
i say deposits only make sense if you are pre booking for longer than an overnight. besides if you book and then cancel at the last minute i can assure you that you will get blacklisted on the ladies only websites. i canceled one lady 24 hours in advance for a 1 hour date and she attempted to smear my name on the ladies site. so I think the hobby polices itself and thus no need for deposits.
I was just thinking about this.
A well known PS will be visiting this month as has asked for a deposit now to confirm and schedule me. I trust her and she has great reviews. My only fear is if something comes up and cannot make it in 3 weeks. I guess the longer I wait I risk losing the time slot and maybe angering her by dragging my feet.
"If something comes up" and you have to cancel on her.
That said, it's YOUR money and the last thing I would be worried about is "angering" someone you are about to spend hundreds/thousands of dollars on. As for losing your time slot, that of course is a real risk if she is that much in demand.
Personally, I wouldn't do it no matter how well reviewed she is, but that's just me.
The one thing I still don't get about this business that I guess I will NEVER understand, Why is this the only business I can think of where the buyers are scared of making the sellers "angry" with them? Hobbyists have to be the biggest pussies on the planet.
Maybe I can answer why buyers are scared and allow themselves to get bullied;; Buyers are doing something illegal and they probably want an appointment so bad , they will go along with the upfront money nonsense.
After several scam attempts , I use only cash.
In the instance above, you want to book a time you’re not sure you will be able to make. If the provider books with no deposit, and you cancel, she’s taken a hit on her income. You can counter that you would never cancel short notice, but she doesn’t know that.
I don’t think you risk angering her just by letting her know you don’t feel comfortable locking in more than a week out. We’re you aware of the deposit before you requested screening? When you asked her for a specific date and time? Or did she spring this on you after you had completed screening and asked for an appointment?
In the instance above, you want to book a time you’re not sure you will be able to make. If the provider books with no deposit, and you cancel, she’s taken a hit on her income. You can counter that you would never cancel short notice, but she doesn’t know that.
I don’t think you risk angering her just by letting her know you don’t feel comfortable locking in more than a week out. We’re you aware of the deposit before you requested screening? When you asked her for a specific date and time? Or did she spring this on you after you had completed screening and asked for an appointment?
“If we all charge deposits, then they’ll have no choice but to pay, right?” Clearly it doesn’t work for them, so why are would it work for clients?
Escorts and clients, we’re all here because we have trouble following random rules somebody else thought up, right? Why start now?
And yes, I’ve paid deposits, and no, no one has outright stolen anything from me, although a couple have delayed their visits after taking my deposit and that annoyed me. I obviously prefer not to pay them, but once in a while I’ll bite. I’ve not yet been bitten back.
the other day i contacted a lady for the first time. she asked for a deposit, i replied via text, i have dozens of P411 and TER white list references, there is no need nor will I provide a deposit. she replied with a long lengthy text about how that's how she has done biz for a decade and couldn't care less if she doesn't see me .. blah blah blah
and to be candid this from a 7 appearance rated MILF .... oh well, guess she didn't get the memo ! LOL but does mean apparently there are many (foolish) guys who will do it. guessing none from TER !
i have met a number of ladies who initially asked for a deposit but then waved it without comment after seeing the number of online references. ///those ladies of course i wound up seeing and donating to their favorite charity
And exactly what does being a 7 on the authoritative and definitive TER scale have to do with asking for deposits? Further it doesn't seem that her being a 7 violated your delicate sensibilities until such time as she declined to compromise with you....is that about right?
Suzee the slut
It's the same mentality that makes someone buy a lottery ticket, but ONLY when the jackpot is over $100 million instead of a "measly" $10 million. It's ok to throw away the price of a ticket knowing you won't win if the potential payoff is high enough. Throwing away a deposit in the "hopes" of seeing a 10 is worth the chance to gullible johns, but not a 7 lol
OR I suppose it's the idea of getting ripped off by someone they are "barely" interested in seeing in the first place that keeps some guys from sending money up front to a 7 while they can talk themselves into any kind of stupid behavior if the pics are hot enough.
Tricks are stupid, what can I say? lol
Personally, I have NEVER had a problem with deposits, I've simply never sent one. Actually I have never even briefly considered sending one, the thought of me sending a deposit is simply laughable. Problem solved.
a deposit to a girl I'm seeing for the first time, but I have sent deposits to a few that I had already seen at least once, when I was booking three hours or more, but never for one or two hours.
I agree that the guys who think with the head in their pants, there is no limit to the stupidity. What's funny is how some ridicule others for being taken advantage of and then a month or two later, they are posting a similar story of their own. Lol
This post is like the “ Providers charge too much, we should all agree not to pay over X amount so they reduce their prices” posts that we see every once in a while.
but I never give a deposit for a one hour session with someone whom I have never seen before. If I am booking for two or three hours with someone whom I have seen before then I will send a deposit.
Early in my hobbying career, an alleged provider extracted a deposit of several hundred from me and promptly ghosted. Ever since, I have never agreed to a deposit again, except in the occasional instances when I have been a participant in group encounters and the hostess needed some advance cash to book the space and make other arrangements -- and then only if I already know her.
Foolish me. I got ripped off twice in the last week with the deposit scam. Last week (embarrassed to tell y'all) I saw an enticing prospect who requested a deposit. Turns out the agency guy was high as a fucking kite and and had posted the listing city in the wrong state (same city name). Asked for CashApp, sent it, didn't go through, gave me another email, sent it, didn't go through. Third time apparently worked. When that was done was sent the address in a city 1800 miles away.
Deposit was pending on my CashApp for 2 days. I requested a stop and cancel with CashApp, which did not honor it. So I ended up paying double the deposit. I requested a refund from the payee and never heard back.
CashApp is fucking useless. Their only reply is you have to be careful about who you send it to.
Lessons learned: NEVER send a deposit. NEVER send any money on CashApp.
That's why I will never trust adds requesting deposits with cashapps or ebay cards. The add usually appears in multiple cities at the same time . The price is reasonable, and the girl is hot. The so called provider will answer your first text swiftly, and they always have the same , damn, lame excuse on why they can't accept cash.; security , been ripped off, too much counterfeit money, and they want to know you are real and faithful. Sometimes the provider in the add is present to send a verification selfie to reel you in.
Thru all the texting , you are probably communicating with a fairly educated goon/cockroach.; it even might be the girl in the photo. You will never meet her she will disappear once she/he gets your money.