about the types of guys they actually see...and those they really wished would never, ever call again?

The reason I'm excluding the mangina crowd is those are the very clients that I hear about from the hookers.  Too many are just so lonely...clingy...needy.

Since there's only a fairly small number of hookers that post, can we limit those who are just going to shill for business not reply?  In other words...DON'T just babble that "I love all my men"....tell the truth.

That's the opposite of what most seem to say to Johnnie B Good.

There are some that no matter what, the money is not enough to deal with them. If they call I don't book.

But you're NOT a "non-mangina" boy

But you're also one of the very few gals that clearly tells it like it is.  

And honestly...that's more important to assholes like me  

I think we actually had that chat one time?  LOL

First off I think its a little weird to be talking about other tricks with an escort to begin with.
More like poor taste, but anyway.. All I can do is try to compare.
   I have been a waiter, bartender, worked street fairs, installed satellite dishes, did plumbing, and other stuff I do now. All of these jobs have one thing in common. I have to deal with a customer face to face.
   I have, and still talk shit about most of the customers I deal with. It gets very annoying when people make the same mistakes, or ask the same stupid questions. You feel like a broken record.
   Keep in mind. I really don't mean what I say. (Well sometimes) It is just a way to vent. If the ladies are anything like the guys I work with now, whatever she told you is nothing compared to what she says to her girlfriends. We tear people apart for fun at my job.

You could be one of two guys then...

How the fuck have you been?

I think it might also depend on how well one knows the hooker...and how comfortable she is in babbling to you (me).

I have a slightly different relationship with quite a few gals...hence I tend to hear stories that I doubt many will share with the typical john.  But then again, I'm not in the room and who the hell knows what she is telling other johnnie boys.

And yea...I am waiting for the "usual suspects" to proclaim how special they are and that I don't understand that their ATF hooker pal really does "love them".

But I don't expect the usual hookers to come on this thread and actually admit that they are repulsed by the neediness and clinginess.  It's so unattractive...or so they tell me  LOL

There is one I actually like as we are alike..and I mean if he was a provider he'd be like me and if I was a client, I would be like him...or at least that's what became apparent and we both have respect for one another.

One of the guys I have chatted with has my email address. The other one does not...who are you?

Seems I might just be all out of cash on that one  

I don't necessarily mind the needy clingy ones...it's the assholes I fucking want to drop kick.  Although with good screening and other asshole repellent things in place, I guess I am lucky it's a very rare thing for me. I meet most of them on the board...

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It's easy...just say::

"I'm so sick and tired of the clingy, needy Johnnie boys"

See...wasn't that hard (no pun intended)  

My wit, charm and personality  

I'm in a service business and I make it a point not to insult my customers.  There are plenty I don't like by they pay my bills.  Why would this business be any different.

My guess is you get crickets from the gals.  And rightly so.  

I was labeled as mangina by a provider on here about my comment on a post and I am by no means lonely, clingy or needy. I see a provider for what they offer and then it's done until the next time. I have favorites that I have their phone numbers and email addresses for and I only call or email for appointments, to confirm and to let them know I've arrived. I would appreciate if a provider were to say politely that they didn't want to see me again if that we're the case because I don't ever want to burden someone with my presence if they don't want to see me. This relationship is no different than any other relationship in life, it's based upon mutual respect.

I have had a provider tell me though that she had to stop seeing a client because he was getting clingy and wanting her to quit the business and only be with him and that he was going to leave his wife for her. Fortunately this young lady has a good head on her shoulders and saw through his BS. I can see that guy as being a mangina, although I'm still not quite sure of the definition of mangina because there have been so many interpretations. I suppose that they get this kind of person quite frequently. The reason why I like the hobby so much is that the motivation for both parties should be quite obvious, you have a good time and then it's over. They don't have to hear about my boring job, or life and I don't have listen to nagging or care how their day was beyond the 2-4 hours we spend with each other. They get their money and I get my nut.

And here is your post that is also expected!

And ask yourself...why would the gals not comment on this topic?  They certainly have NO problems telling all YOU mangina Johnny Boys how great you are at DATY  

Sheesh  

And I did not name names, so if anyone feels insulted, well maybe the cap fits. Most times guys know they have pushed the ladies limits too far. If not, the refusal to answer emails and the plethora of excuses for their unavailability should give them a tiny clue they are not wanted.

There are also plenty of guys we see that we don't particularly like (well some of us) but are easy enough to deal with for the money ( got to pay my bills too...). As long as we do a great job, just like you do with yours, they won't know. So I guess you understand where we are coming from.

I am confused by the both of you.
I am not a clingy guy. If anything, I am the exact opposite.
When I was really new. It was a weird turn on to talk about other tricks, and how I am so much easier to fuck. Made me feel like a big guy.
Now I see it as creepy.
I don't care about how fat/ugly/stupid her last trick was.
Just like she doesn't care about what a pain in the ass my customers have been. (No pun intended)
Now if you two have become so close...  You don't belong on this forum.
Saturn is busted BTW.  "I would never date a guy who posts on TER"
Remember that?

But we have bantered by back channel methods and I think we see things quite similarly.

But then a few of the other gals here are in the same arena as well  LOL

And FWIW I wasn't referring to gals bitching about a guys looks or performance...nope!  The gals have issues with those mangina boys that think this is real.  Then things tend to get a bit creepy.

It is interesting to see how many gals view this business...and conversely how the mangina Johnnies think they view this.

Love your posts though  

It's those pathetic souls that scare the shit out of many gals.  And most have had that happen at least once.  And honestly, the ones that are really really good at the GFE illusion get that crap way too often.

Have you ever wondered why she changed her phone number?  An email addy?  Where she ran her ads?

Yep...that creepy guy is overstepping his bounds.

Heard the story too many times now!

I learned that the hard way. At least I learned it early on.
The mangina in me always wonders if it could have worked though.
Is that what you were looking for?
Remember the movie Hot Tub Time Machine?
The Great White Buffalo.....   The one that got away.
Hold that though,, until I give a shit.

Arrogant pricks who feel entitled and get pissed because they have been cut off can be the ones stalking, showing up unannounced, threatening emails, outing etc. These guys also over step and are dangerous as well.

Let's not discount this type of Cro-Magnon man

That's about the most mangina thing I have ever heard!


(Sarcasm)

But since so many accused me of being gay, well just giving the crowd what it wants...or it might be the truth...this whole thing is an illusion, a fantasy, where dreams come true, but the truth may be somewhere else.

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But I get confused between the different cave men that used to roam the land.  Now it just seems that the only Neanderthals that I can relate to do work for Geico  

Of course that is right as well...either extreme is not good.

That's why guys like me get along with so many gals.  Just always remember, respect must be earned.  And it's always a two-way street!

Extolling your love of food...and how obese you were.

Now we're going to play the gay card as well?

Hell...sounds like a plan to me  LOL

One of my many faults.

But in my example I am NOT paying the hooker to babble to me.

Does that matter?  Oops...that might raise the OTC debate.

Or maybe time to start a thread on "what is the true definition of mangina"?

How often do I talk to say my good guy pals about the losers? Well, I am sure we all have our stories of what 'that guy' did, but I rarely use their handle to discuss it. Just an hour ago I was telling a very good friend about some dickwad, I did not want to see and poof....now I don't have to lol. Someone is watching over me afterall.

Shitty clients make you appreciate the good ones a hell of a lot more, which is why I have no problems offering those guys incentives that I don't publish. No shocker, there are bad clients, but if there were that many I would be rethinking my marketing vs. bitching about it. If a girl only attracts losers over and over, she is not doing something right in terms of marketing herself to the right guys. I could not tell you what that "something" is, but I know what works for me. I get very few men that come through that door, who I want to kick in the head, but yea...there are a few that come to mind as I write this lol.

I will also say that different websites house more idiots than the next. I have very few complaints with guys I have met from here and another board, but 2 other so called National Boards are pathetic in terms of the shit they allow on there as members.

And we, nor they should ever cross the proverbial line. This arrangement is what it is for a short period of time and then it's over until the next time. This doesn't mean we can't be nice and friendly to each other, in fact we should be, but it doesn't go any further. For instance, I have coworkers that I like personally but I never see them outside of work and it's a perfectly fine relationship, we are friends, or friendly at work and then we don't have any other contact until the next work day. I think it's a similar situation except of course for the sex of course.

But certainly am not surprised that you are chipping in here.  And I also know how you see things as we've had those discussions as well  LOL

I'm not concerned about the performers..the pretenders..the short changers...the time wasters.

I was suggesting that many of the gals see guys that are simply lonely...and that's usually a good deal.  It's the ones that can't tell when the session is over and honestly think "she's really into me" that "grind my gears"...and many of the gals I chat with have shared that frustration of those types of clingy needy Johnnie Boys.

And we see a sampling of them on the boards.

And what a shock...they didn't comment here...YET  LOL

Posted By: London Rayne

How often do I talk to say my good guy pals about the losers? Well, I am sure we all have our stories of what 'that guy' did, but I rarely use their handle to discuss it. Just an hour ago I was telling a very good friend about some dickwad, I did not want to see and poof....now I don't have to lol. Someone is watching over me afterall.

Shitty clients make you appreciate the good ones a hell of a lot more, which is why I have no problems offering those guys incentives that I don't publish. No shocker, there are bad clients, but if there were that many I would be rethinking my marketing vs. bitching about it. If a girl only attracts losers over and over, she is not doing something right in terms of marketing herself to the right guys. I could not tell you what that "something" is, but I know what works for me. I get very few men that come through that door, who I want to kick in the head, but yea...there are a few that come to mind as I write this lol.

I will also say that different websites house more idiots than the next. I have very few complaints with guys I have met from here and another board, but 2 other so called National Boards are pathetic in terms of the shit they allow on there as members.

Maybe one of them emailed you and the other hasn't, but to say one has your email address and the other doesn't is incorrect. Since you posted your email address on the boards at least three times, everyone "has" it (if they want it)

Maybe me?

Posted By: red_solo_cup

Maybe one of them emailed you and the other hasn't, but to say one has your email address and the other doesn't is incorrect. Since you posted your email address on the boards at least three times, everyone "has" it (if they want it)

(who say publicly how they know it's only a business) are deluding themselves when it comes to their ATF.  to me, they are the usual suspects you mention.)

" I have had a provider tell me though that she had to stop seeing a client because he was getting clingy and wanting her to quit the business "

becoming clingy? why wouldn't a provider just dump him at the very first sign? if not, would she be putting up with him for a few visits until she had enough?


btw, i will say it took me the 4th visit with a lady to realize we were not a good fit after all. but there wasnt anything overtly evident ( maybe except for her  appt cancellations) that would have made either of us "suspicious"

yep, a masseuse with benefits is what i like to call it.

Let's keep it that way.  I don't care what a girl thinks about other guys.  As long as she and I are good, that's all I care about.

The rest of this stuff is just petty bullshit.  And I have no interest in it.  I guess some people really do give a shit about things that they have no business in.

take a hike eventually. I do like the friendships though...that much I can't really charge for. There are a lot of lonely men, no doubt, but I can handle that kind. It's the insecure mofos, I want to bitch slap! Thinking a hooker needs to kiss your ass BEFORE you pay her or she is "off my list" is the most comical line I have ever heard, and it's done by the same people over and over on the boards. I mean cmon...if you are that much of a p*ssy right here, how much more am I going to have to endure in person? Ugh....keep the damn money! Give me a guy with a sense of humor and balls, and I am sold.

And I don't classify those types as manginas but more entitled shit stains.

if a girl doesn't answer my email twice in a row, i just assume she isn't interested in my company and by extension my money.  i've also learned not to take it personally, cuz there's plenty of ladies that do enjoy my company and $$$.  so i don't beat myself up over it, i just move on.

during the last few weeks i was in email contact with a couple of new girls i was hoping to meet.  however scheduling did not work out for either lady and i am also gonig out of town, so i can't see them until next month.  i sent both an email saying as much.  one lady emailed back giving me a tentative schedule for early november and saying how much she was looking forward to meeting me.  the second lady didn't reply, even after a second email from me.

so, cool.  don't need to see the second lady, i'll put all my discretionary spending towards the one who stayed in communication.  does that make me less ballsy than all the other guys who pay for hookers?  lol so what if it does.   call me whatever name you like, the girls i see and i have great times together and it ain't nobody's business if i do, as the old song goes.

when her mouth is moving and your dick isn't in it.

seriously, tho, i just assume all the chit chat during the session is just polite bs...something to pass the time as we wait for mr. happy to wake up again.

one girl tells me she's a chemistry major.  i haven't had the nerve to ask her chemistry questions (i used to be quite the science whiz in school), cuz i don't need to spoil the illusion.  maybe she is, maybe she isn't, all i know is we have good chemistry and that's the only chemistry i care about.

i don't ever take anything a lady tells me as gospel.  it's just the filler during the hour.

... when a provider is prevaricating because when she tells me that she is 'this and that', I look around her environment and ask myself... if she has that kind of position, then she should be making a ton of money, if so, then why is she providing?

When that question comes into play... then I know that the provider is just BSing me just to fill the time. I prefer to talk about sports or politics or even the weather, but don't BS me.

Just like Joe Walsh used to say, "Living a life of illusion, And oh, why can't we let it be"

Serpius

Could be...they most definitely fit the profile!

Let's see what you really are saying. "I want people's opinions, but if you don't agree with me then I don't want to hear it.  My bloated opinion is I am the prototype of what women swoon over.  Guys who don't fit my profile, shut up I don't want to hear from you!  Women who won't feed my ego by agreeing with me, you can keep your mouth shut too!"

But if you truly want to know, the providers who do talk about such things hate spending time with men who can't understand boundaries, don't remember what soap is used for, and those who are full of themselves.

but I believe it's spelled

Klingon

Oh...maybe you meant that a guy was clingy...hence, clingon?

Next time we do the Star Trek game...do you have the proper uniform?

And I'll see if Worf is around  LOL

You two bros kiss each others ass enough to make the mangina hall of fame.

Jeez Louise....you're going to give Saturn and London a run for the money on gay sex partners  

Don't put words to my OP pal.

I said what I said.  If you have followed the threads over the years the hookers and mangina boys have stated their opinions ad nauseum.

I wanted to hear from those who aren't deluded...but I guess you are one of the mangina boys.

And if you had any clue about my background...you would probably be singing a different tune.  "Oklahoma" is what you're whistling now  

Or is is some other musical?

...But if you truly want to know, the providers who do talk about such things hate spending time with men who can't understand boundaries, don't remember what soap is used for, and those who are full of themselves....

Well said Miss Saturn

But he really doesn't want to know that.

Nice going...ruining some poor schlubs fantasy  

Telling a guy they are good at DATY....marketing.

Telling a guy they suck in bed.....stupid.


Is this really that hard to understand?

I choose to treat women with respect but getting better at being less nice when necessary. I was raised in the South where we are polite, however once that respect is not returned I will defend myself in ways that some pencil pusher would not understand.
I'm  a good guy that chooses to treat women with respect. I understand that there are times when a more hard ass approach is necessary and I'm okay with that. If you were refering to someone like myself and they way I treat women I take issue with that.
If not none of this will matter to you. Garden any typos I send this from my phone while on my way out,e in case any of this was directed towards me.

MM

Posted By: beenaround2553

But certainly am not surprised that you are chipping in here.  And I also know how you see things as we've had those discussions as well  LOL

I'm not concerned about the performers..the pretenders..the short changers...the time wasters.







I was suggesting that many of the gals see guys that are simply lonely...and that's usually a good deal.  It's the ones that can't tell when the session is over and honestly think "she's really into me" that "grind my gears"...and many of the gals I chat with have shared that frustration of those types of clingy needy Johnnie Boys.

And we see a sampling of them on the boards.

And what a shock...they didn't comment here...YET  LOL

Posted By: London Rayne

How often do I talk to say my good guy pals about the losers? Well, I am sure we all have our stories of what 'that guy' did, but I rarely use their handle to discuss it. Just an hour ago I was telling a very good friend about some dickwad, I did not want to see and poof....now I don't have to lol. Someone is watching over me afterall.

Shitty clients make you appreciate the good ones a hell of a lot more, which is why I have no problems offering those guys incentives that I don't publish. No shocker, there are bad clients, but if there were that many I would be rethinking my marketing vs. bitching about it. If a girl only attracts losers over and over, she is not doing something right in terms of marketing herself to the right guys. I could not tell you what that "something" is, but I know what works for me. I get very few men that come through that door, who I want to kick in the head, but yea...there are a few that come to mind as I write this lol.

I will also say that different websites house more idiots than the next. I have very few complaints with guys I have met from here and another board, but 2 other so called National Boards are pathetic in terms of the shit they allow on there as members.

I don't overanalyze anything, either.  I am there to have fun.  Pay, play, and get out...no strings attached.

If you have time to keep track of someone else's comments, then you have too much time on your hands.  Go see someone instead of talking about it all day.

You trash Richard's comment.  You like Saturn's.  But all she is doing is quoting him??????

It does look that way, doesn't it?