Okay Gentleman, I have often heard and read about the GFE?  But exactly what is it?  Please do not post "Girl Friend Experience".  In particular what I am wondering is how do various people define the "GFE"?  What qualities make up the GFE?  Kissing for example?  Thanks in advance for your feedback.

I think that for most hobbyists, the GFE means particular acts or talents in the bedroom, But for me it's something else altogether.  It means conducting a session the way you'd conduct a visit with a real GF.For me, the GFE treatment means enjoying a  leisurely, romantic visit with a lady, and moving to the bedroom only when the mood has fully ripened.  When I arrive at an incall appointment, I'm always tense and anxious from struggling with traffic, and I need time to shift into my biological low gear.  To feel relaxed and ready for intimacy.In my vision of the proper GFE, the lady would greet me at the door, ready to receive me.  We'd begin the visit just relaxing on the sofa, relating and connecting.  Warming up to each other in our own good time, and drawing closer as we feel ready.  Relating would flow into cuddling, and cuddling into caressing, kissing, and gentle exploration.  And the next step to the bedroom would be allowed to come in the natural course of events.  The GFE, for me, means an unhurried mutual seduction in a romantic atmosphere.Possibly I could enrich my description of the GFE by describing some of the things that I think detract from, or aren't part of, the GFE session.  Having to wait while the provider prepares for my session after I arrive is very uncool and very unprofessional on the part of the provider.  Being led directly to the bedroom when I arrive is okay if all I want is a good tumble. But when it happens, the session can never be a GFE, no matter what follows.  For me, nothing that happens in the bedroom can make a session a GFE.  I can imagine nothing that more effectively prevents a visit from being GFE than haste; for that reason, I always book two hours when I'm hoping for a really special visit.  I believe a proper GFE visit can probably be done in an hour, but when only an hour is booked, providers seem to assume that the client wants only basic sex.Anyway, that's LazyGuy's notion of GFE treatment, for whatever it's worth.  I've always said that *true* GFE can only be had with a true GF, but with a little suspension of disbelief, a quality provider can still offer a visit that will leave long-lingering memories.

LazyGuy, This has always been my understanding of a GFE experience. Long before ever heard the term GFE, I was providing this kind of intimacy. Frankly, I want to feel at the moment that I am with a BFE at the time and this is the only way for me to achieve it, by enjoying the individual I am with in terms of a brief conversation, be it a one hour or longer, followed by the next level and some cuddling, mutual exploration. I did change my engagement time to 2 hours for the very reason that you stated. Although, like you, I know that a GFE experience can be arrived at in an hour, but is more difficult to achieve.In addition your comment about arriving at an incall feeling stressed from traffic, etc. hit on the reason I use a driver to drop me off outside of my local area! I have to walk in the door of an outcall setting feeling refreshed and relaxed! I am sure there are some who do not understand this and my additional fee for my driver, but this system maintains the level of companionship to a relaxed level. My drivers fee is less than a towncar or taxi cab fee and gives me that luxury of relaxed attitude and fun!Soft Kisses and Warm Hugs,Nicole Of Southern California

I would never pay someone to be treated the way GF's have treated me (at least in the past) And I have had more thanmy fair share.  Some may say it's a selection problem on mypart.  Maybeso.Regardless, the women I have met and spent time with, especially those of you I have seen 2 or more times, are morealong the lines of Fantasy Girl Friend Experience for thisold dog.  The bar has certainly been raised for any future GF for me!WOOF!Lustman

GFE is "Girl Friend Experience"If I didn't do it Straightman or Sully would have.Lazyguy and Nicole explained it fairly closely.  I would add that 2 hours would be the absolute minimum, in fact I would prefer dinner before.  It's an opportunity to become familiar, with each other, put the days bulls**t behind you, start the juices flowing, then back to the old homestead.  If your going to spend the money, you don't want to be thinking about the time.  You want to explore, fondle, tease, while letting the anticipation build up.  In fact, in some cases, it's more of the foreplay then the actual event, that will make it a closer effect.  The more time that is allowed, the more real the experience.  Play a little, take a break, eat some desert, Play some more, take a bath, Play some more.  It's a mini honeymoon.  Being allowed to give, as much as receive, is a major part.  If my partner is not being fulfilled then I'm not going to come away with the feeling that I've experienced a GFE.  In a previous post, I had refered to it as trying to relive the, "First Time Experience" while having the advantage of knowing now what you didn't then.  The provider that can create that kind of illusion will be creating the ultimate GFE.Fortunately for us guys there are quite a few ladies, and I would mention that any of the ones that contribute to this forum, who go out of their way to create the GFE.  They're beautiful, classy, and enjoy what they do.  That's how you find it, by looking for the woman who enjoys what she's doing, it will be reflected in her performance, which will only inspire me to rise (NPI) to the occasion.JMHOG.

Nicole, you hit the nail on the head, regarding the time involved, one hour sessions tend to take a machete to my nervous system.  But I started out doing one hour sessions from my massage days; and still see gents who just dont have time for longer sessions.  Incidentally, I've always had this thing about time, all my life, people have told me I was never 'FAST' ENOUGH.  well, thank god I finally found something where being slow worked out.  as for your second paragraph, I applaud your consideration for your clients.  The way I try compensate for the stress levels on incall, is by leaving the gentleman a lot of time for traffic; there is so much bad traffic in L.A. When they are coming in from out of town, I try to pick them up/drop them off at the airport.so it goes, we aspire to a better way.  I appreciate your style, Nicole. Too bad we live so far apart!xoxoff--modified by feliciafoxx at Tue, Apr 10, 2001, 05:50:02

I would not assume that any first-contact with any particular provider would ever be a GFE.I think a GFE is something on a more personal note if you BOTH become a regular AND truly try to make the encounter as good for the provider as yourself.Inevitably, as people interact on a recurring basis (for any business) some will "click" better than others.  Although the "relationship" may remain somewhat business and have it's limits, it is truely a relationship in some form involve mutual respect and caring...seriously.[and YES, I did say all that with a straight face - ]