For the first time I was denied seeing a someone. She told me cause the ladies I see are only 350-400 range that she was more elite then that.  I was willing to pay her fees. That are a lot higher. I have references. Tons of them. I’m polite. And I always leave when my times up. I prob have 1 negative remark about me cause I left a negative review for the provider. Only thing I can think of but I felt it was weird. Like this provider think she’s that much better then anyone else and she’s a low volume girl. I mean. You have over 100 reviews on yourself. What’s low volume about that. Has anyone else ran into that issue and how does one go about convincing the lady to see you. And ladies. Do you do this?  Is this normal

I was turned away by a 600/hr provider because "I see too many girls"  Her most recent review was from a guy who wrote 6 reviews the previous month and had 60 reviews over two years.  I would not be surprised if you are talking about the same girl.  In the end I was grateful.  I used the 600 for two great hours with two other girls.

I've had ladies get back to me AFTER I replied to their reference request and actually say, "oh sweetie I'm so sorry I wasted your time!  I don't accept guys who see providers who  ____________(do one-hour appts, are less than $$$, etc) ______) but I only just looked at your site.  We follow each other on Twitter and I thought you were better than that!"

It is generally proof she is neither and is more likely an "entitled bitch." Consider yourself lucky.

Not give me a reference because I charge less then 6$$ a hour she said she would not verify anyone that charged so low.

and she just can't stand to be with someone who's grammar is so bad.

Your review scores run nearly the entire range of what TER allows, from 2 to 10.  You have given a 3-2, a 5-2, a 5-5, 5-6 and so on.  Your average seems to be about 7.  Providers do not consider 7 a very good score, and they certainly don't want to take a chance that you will give them a 2, so its better in the long run to just pass on you.  I have met several indies that will not see guys who give scores lower than 7, no matter what the reason.  These girls rely on their TER review average to keep the customers coming, and a few low scores can bring that average down pretty quickly.

"...she just can't stand to be with someone whose grammar is so poor."  :P

Although, I'm not above making value judgements on such matters.

I've known a few girls that "question" me about that. But once I explain my situation and my reasons they get it and I have always met up with them. I can say that I've never been turned down. But I've been lucky and my situation is unique.
I don't know if there's a reason why you're in that "lane", be it financial or?? But don't let it get you down. Just be real with your limitation. If they want to see you, great, if not move on...don't sweat it out and don't take it personally, really..

Not a money issue a all but I feel anyone who wants 760 a hour and 1500 for 2 hours is just high priced. I get it I run my own business an products quality of work all matters in price. But I don’t over charge people. Was thinking she was the one I would try that higher grade out with. I follow her on Twitter and all so I didn’t think it been a problem

This happened to me about 5 years ago in Vegas. I was in town for two nights mid-week, and wanted to see a nice provider, someone who was toward the high end of my donation range. In the week before my trip I decided on a well-known tall, buxom, Vegas lady, and sent her an introductory email with references and whitelists. The next day she replied and said she checked my references and would love to see me, so we set up a 2 hour date at my suite at Palazzo. I was really looking forward to seeing her. I emailed her the day of to confirm. She replied at 6pm, 3 hours before the date 9:00 date, that she needed to cancel without giving any explanation. I was pissed because I had planned my day/evening around the date, and now 3 hours before the date I had nothing. I emailed my objections to her, and asked why she needed to cancel. She responded to my email stating that as she read my TER reviews she saw that I had given out a lot of 7s and 8s, and she was concerned that I was a "tough grader." I suggested that she focus on the Vegas ladies I had seen in her price range to whom I had given 9s consistently, and to the top-tier touring KGirls to whom I had given 9s as well. I suggested to her that I was an accurate rater, and that if she was as good as her reviews indicated she would get high scores from me just like they had. She then explained that she was a "TER Top 10" in Vegas, and she couldn't take the chance on getting a 7 or 8 because it might move her out of the Top 10. So, no date. I chalked it up to one her regulars wanting the time and I got dumped. I was really pissed.

If they would just concentrate on delivering a session worthy of a 9 or 10, they will get the scores they want.  95% of guys are consistent and honest in their scoring, but the other 5% can ruin a girl's average with extortionate demands (discounts, off-menu services, etc.) so they get gun-shy about guys that may have a few lower review scores without regard to the reviewers consistency and whether the few low scores may have been well-deserved.  As you stated in your example, she eventually went down anyway, but it was her own fault.  Its tough to blame weight-gain on a bad review.   The guys here that see both Kgirls and indies know that Indies often don't have the stamina to deliver their A-game on most every session like most of the Kgirls do.

In which case I have no option but to report you to Rocket who I guarantee is going to give you an earful. And then I am going to be forced to agree with him.

About 4 years ago when I was new to this I had a provider refuse to see me because she said I seemed like a "player". At the time I only had about 8 okays on P411 and that's how she judged me. Oh well.

A girl that says stuff like that is only going to bitch and complain about anything and everything during the date.

that kind of behavior." If you actually read his posts carefully, he simply said such behavior exists. Your suggesting he defends it is total "reading in" on your part. Which makes it hilarious when YOU accuse HIM of "sloppy writing" when it's you who are AGAIN guilty of sloppy reading. Give it a rest.

Instead of waiting till hours before your date.

I had a provider once call me out on the 15 okays I had gotten on P411 over the course of 10 years as being “a lot”.  Coincidentally, she had twice as many reviews here than the total number I’d ever posted and in roughly half the amount of time.  I let her know all of this and thanked her for canceling last minute as I could tell that I would’ve regretted wasting my time and money.  

I agree, especially since one of my references was one of the 9/9 Vegas ladies and I know she checked that reference.

Not tough to blame weight gain on the looks score when a few reviewers mentioned her weight gain and how she didn't resemble her pictures.

of sloppy reading comprehension.  All I did was explain how it can happen from the POV of the providers who are concerned about their scores, based on conversations I have had with some indies over the years.   You'll have to show me specifically where I even suggested that I'm okay with this type of behavior, much less defending it.  I'm just giving info, that's it.   You're not supposed to condemn the messenger just because you don't like the message.  

It if the girl is what and does what she promises I give great scores. But if you don’t look anything like your pic and are rude and there strictly for the money and make it known. I will give a shitty score. Don’t false advertisement and get a good score. Pretty simple.

Not calling out this type of review manipulation by these women when you mention it is the same as condoning it.  

You don't need to put your new wokeness on display with me.  All I was doing was describing it.  It is what it is whether we talk about it or not.  I thought the info would be appreciated.  Maybe I should withhold stuff like this and just let mongers get burned.  Is THAT acceptable in your woke world?  

Maybe you should withhold that kind of "stuff" and instead encourage guys to be honest in their reviews and to shun hookers that are constantly trying to manipulate both the system and the guys they fuck.

Full of shit doesn't quite do him justice.

Below average.  The SoCal guys that read my reviews and see the girls I review know that a 7 is a DNS.  10 numbers is too many to be consistent, and that can be proven over and over reading reviews. Ask most reviewers what is the difference between a 4 and a 5, or a 5 and a 6, and they can't tell you anything that is quantifiable and can be applied consistently.  I can. For me a girl is Average (8), Below Average (7) or Above Average (9) and therefore my first ten reviews are consistent with my last ten even though there is nearly a six year time span.  

...2,999,999 use TER's scoring system but only YOU use your own scoring system.

you to understand, then you are welcome to NOT rely on my reviews the next time you see a Kgirl.   Oh wait, YOU have never seen a Kgirl, have you?  So why do you have your panties in a bunch over this?  

Who was this LV woman?  

at your review scores and decided to past. Perhaps the references/price point was just an excuse.
Not all of them are bad but there is enough low scoring there.
There are some ladies who will not provide references if you are not the same price point as them.
This is one of the reasons I prefer to screen gents other ways besides references because it is just getting to be too much drama.
Don't give me wrong there are some great ladies who provide references and some who do not.
When there is  a pattern of low scores some ladies are not going to risk their business by seeing a guy with those kind of scores.

According to the Oxford-English dict, the first citation of "bad" in the moral/value sense dates back to only 1325.

I just want to comment that a 5 or 6 score would be considered average.  I got a score of 4/9 once. And I will admit I was kinda having an ugly moment but he could have as easily have given me a 5. A 4 is only if your drunk and a 5 is average. But that one little point goes from saying I was average  to being insulting. And for someone who had such a great time I don't know why he would do that.  He did call me again and I said "are you drunk?". Needless to say I don't want to see someone who is cruel. And it's not being dishonest. What's the difference between a 4 and 5 ?

Thank you.

I would be more likely to tell her go fuck herself.  
You dodged a bullet. Consider yourself lucky. Spend your money on someone who is happy to see you.

Who was it? PM me if you can.

How many times do we see posts and reviews bemoaning the sessions where the guy seems to have been willfully ignored all the signs saying it was likely not ending like he imaged the sessions or provider to be.

Nice to see you back on the boards.  We need more providers to comment or post.

You had me at tits........

Would you? So what would be the point.

Your last review was in 09 , why is that?

a lady mentioning she will not give references if the other provider is not on her similar rate structure.
I had never heard of that before but I guess some do feel like that.
So OP it could very well be that who you reviewed/references rates are too low for her.
This is a new one for me I thought as long as  a lady is reputable you provided a reference if you are ref friendly.
Guess times have changed. At least you were not charged for asking a lady to use her as  a reference.
I recall a lady who used to live in Vegas implemented that policy. While her choice i thought it was pretty shitty to charge for a ref.

And you can’t defend yourself.

But you are right, at this point "what would be the point?"  

She wouldn't see one of my clients because he's seen me (I was 450hr at the time), client informed me of this.  

She believes that by declining, this increases the allure of her demand, and maybe at some point the gentleman would  crave spending time with her more.....to the point he would pay more.  If she pulled that crap with me, I would let her know in no uncertain terms that the supply greatly outweighs the demand.....Next!

Since YOU haven't written any reviews, or are you a hypocrite too?

is YOU, Weirdo.

that it is her body and she can do what she wants with it.  She doesn't need to explain herself.

That sounds like an excuse to turn you down nicely or maybe you've used someone as a reference that is known to be a community risk ☹️

I feel like I'm constantly hearing something new that just seems so... perplexing.  

Maybe she didn’t like your classy choice of a screen name