I guess I am anyway...
my guess is that the word 'race' needs to be replaced by culture. Maybe just a word stumble. And if *culture* is the operative word....yeah......some are pretty scary, when it comes to women.This article talks about how we respond to race, as little children, and then later. I admit that I am very predictable. If someone looks like me, then I am going to find them to be attractive. The perfect provider would be someone who looks like my sister!
I feel bad that I'm not attracted to Asians, Hispanics, and African Americans. I swear, I'm not prejudiced. I'm just hard wired to be attracted to skinny, blond, pale, Caucasian women.
So sue me.
Hands
http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-our-brains-respond-to-race-1452094579
I don't find very dark, black women attractive and I really don't like very pale, freckled red heads.
So what?
I am a little concerned you are hot for sis though, but that is between you and the doc.
was gonna say the same thing... don't worry about not liking certain races, worry about liking certain relatives!
OL, it's not my sister I'm attracted to, but someone who has the same features that I see in people that I meet. Humans have inate attractions to faces, something that is shown in infants at a very early age.
I have noticed that women who have hit on me over the years tend to be tall, thin, blond or redheads, with small boobs, bony knees and big feet. Why is this? That describes my sisters' body type exactly. It just might be a coincidence, but I'm thinking there might be more to it.
Hand
If someone looks like me there's no way I'm gonna find them attractive! ![]()
to be attracted to someone as far from you genetically as possible This would lead you to make choices producing generally healthier off spring.
(I m not sure what happens when you are like me and very attracted to almost all types of members of the opposite sex.)
In experiments in smell, men and women found body smells different from theirs to be sexier than those closer to theirs.
Who knows what appeals and why in the end. Who cares? It just is.
Someone who looks like me is certainly not attractive, and I don't find anyone who looks like any of my sisters attractive!
I do have a very narrow view of what I consider attractive to me but it has more to do with body type. I can find "my type" in white, black, latina, and asian.
You look like a skinny, blonde, pale Caucasian woman lol.
No I'm replying to you... It was funny!!!! . You wrote: Someone who looks like me is certainly not attractive, and I don't find anyone who looks like any of my sisters attractive!
I look like a skinny blonde Caucasian woman? It was the OP who used that line. If I did look like that, I would be attracted to me!
I have very particular tastes which are, in the general scheme of things, very limiting. Note I am not talking about work here, but in the partners I choose in real life.
With men and race I am more apt to choose the races that have a more positive outlook on women. So I rarely am attracted to races that historically and ethnically treat women badly. However, the women of those races I do not have an issue with.
Body type, super athletic and muscled in both men and women. I prefer tall to short and am not remotely attracted to obese and old or hairy
Martians?
Saturnians?
You pretty much just dismissed the entire human race.
Congratulations.
With men and race I am more apt to choose the races that have a more positive outlook on women. So I rarely am attracted to races that historically and ethnically treat women badly. However, the women of those races I do not have an issue with.
Body type, super athletic and muscled in both men and women. I prefer tall to short and am not remotely attracted to obese and old or hairy.
Care to elaborate???
I guess I am anyway...
my guess is that the word 'race' needs to be replaced by culture. Maybe just a word stumble.
And if *culture* is the operative word....yeah......some are pretty scary, when it comes to women.
Seriously, you can't possibly be that uniformed jack.
but yes, in the modern world, some are most definitely worse than others.
and since I am hardly one to mince words, a lot of those cultures are from the ME and MANY providers have chosen to not to see anyone from those countries and I am nowhere near PC enough to try to tell them otherwise. The odds are just too great that they will encounter abuse at the hands of these men who were brought up from childhood taught that violence to women is simply the way Allah intended it
Is that really so hard? I have no problem telling this board who I like to fuck and who I don't. I mention races, or shades of races. But "colors" may be a better term actually, or shades.
Maybe you are worried you will be called a bigot but I think you are intelligent enough to swim in those waters and not get eaten by a shark.
HT and now you have dodged my question and for the life of me, I don't know why.
He claims he didn't know that a clit got hard when aroused. So I am not surprised.
no, accepted english vernacular applies the word 'race' acceptably to mean taxinomically various sub-species of humans. the caucasian 'race,' while part of the 'human race' as a whole, is accepted to mean a group of people with certain shared characteristics.
it is picayune and absolute trollish behavior to say one is dissing the entire human race when expressing preferences culturally.
there are certain cultures in which men are hostile to women---everything from the subtly intimidating cock-strutting machismo to full-on widow burning.
Call it picayune and absolute trollish behavior to bluntly point this out if you choose. But it's not about race, it's about culture.
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not referring to your post...referring to bbfs4ever
simply used your post as a jumping off place for my remarks (see above re: bbfs4ever).
i am 1000% in agreement with you hotplants.
when hbyist + truth says she's "against races that have historically been hostile to women in their history" i say down below: "so, you mean all of them?"
However, there are some that I just cannot and will not stomach. Hence I avoid those men in particular. Overly hateful white guys are in that group.
In this country I cannot be stoned to death for looking at another man on the word of my brother or burned because some tool in my family thought I was disrespectful .
In this country I can drive a car and do not have to ask the permission of a male to go anywhere
i'm with ya hbyist 100%. not saying all cultures are the same level of disgusting now. i'm saying at one point in the distant past every culture was that level of disgusting then.
"So I rarely am attracted to races that historically and ethnically treat women badly."
Wow.
With men and race I am more apt to choose the races that have a more positive outlook on women. So I rarely am attracted to races that historically and ethnically treat women badly. However, the women of those races I do not have an issue with.
Body type, super athletic and muscled in both men and women. I prefer tall to short and am not remotely attracted to obese and old or hairy.
Especially in this biz, that's why it's called hobbying... I in "real time" world also prefer the ken doll look alike! Am I a racist, absolutely not... It's what the heart/Hormones wants that matters!! Most of my ATFs and regulars are Caucasian men. What matters is what you are attracted.
Happy Hunting!!!
You're fairly young. Late 20s? Early 30s? It is entirely possible that I'm wrong on this but my theory is that the younger a guy is the more conservative and traditional taste in woman he has. It also has to do with the environment and culture he had around him while growing up.
Here's my whole life evolution has developed in full circle:
In HS and college I fantasized about the most obvious and most traditional. The one that I consider on the top of the totem pole: white women with blond hair. It's a no-brainer. It also helped that I was raised in LA area near Hollywood the capital of the entertainment industry. And Playboy!
After college I left LA for a job somewhere else. On the job I was smitten by a co-worker who happened to be brown-skinned Hispanic. Suddenly I developed a crave for Latina especially brown-skinned type. I was fascinated and attracted by their fiery and passionate attitude.
Then I discovered the hobby. Unfortunately there just weren't that many attractive Latinas. So I tried the AMP and AAMP scenes. Now I found myself changing course again. Now I found tiny slim submissive Asians irresistible.
Fast forward some more years and now I'm fully engulfed with the hobby. I've done them all. From the legal prostitution of Nevada to AMPs/AAMPs to Escort also throwing in some Street Action in between.
As fate would have it I met one Ebony streetwalker who I found incredible chemistry with. She blew me away (pun intended) with everything: personality, service including pricing. It was then that I discovered that my taste have hardened to most importantly of all: a slim toned athletic body. The kind of body that many Ebonies have but few Whites, Hispanics and Asians can compare with.
So that's where I stand now: body more than anything except it just so happens that by law of nature the type of body possessed by more ebonies than other race.
Hm maybe it just reflects my inner desire: a craving to be young, slim, fit... the way I used to be when younger. Being with this kind of women made me feel young and rejuvenate all over again
As far as what attracts me...hmm an honest man. I was taught at an early age never to look at the psychical maybe because I was always a chubby kid but I was always attracted to a man's personality. Looks never meant anything to me as I never thought my looks would get me anywhere, always strived on being an amazing person, having a personality that would make people think, "wow that girl honestly cares". I strive on personality and some men have a personality that just captivates you.
It's no surprise I have a huge crush on 2 men on the boards... they could look like ogres and I know they will still be sexy to me. It's personality what they say and what they don't and to me that is the key. As far ethnicity, before becoming a provider I was prejudiced against a certain race (I won't disclose which) and after I joined the hobby and met these people more frequently I felt stupid, that particular ethnicity happens to be the best one as far as caring, delicacy, the way they treat you and the amount of education you could gain from talking them.
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(j/k, roxanne, i'm hoping against hope it's me!)
A lady never discloses who she has a crush on, come on. I will say they don't live near me which sucks but it's cutesy it's like elementary school all over again. I'll send them a picture with a heart on it and say
Do you like me?
Yes?
No?
Maybe so ?
lol
I am white but I prefer Asian and latina women, tho I've been with many women of all different ethnicities. I never really questioned why I was attracted to women outside of my race. Just being attracted to women in general is enough to keep me guessing as to why we like what we like!
i'm a sucker for persian women and latina women. not so much asian women, although one of my current atfs is an asian ameican hottie from san diego, she knows who she is.
loving the blonde caucasian girls, but i loves me some brunettes too. my two current atfs in la are a california blonde and an english brunette. would love to find a hot red head in her 20's for a decent rate. then i'd make a neopolitan sandwich!
When I was a young child I was surrounded by 'brown' kids. Most of whom were Cuban, some were other variations of Mexican or central/south American. A Few black. And, one, my best friend (brown kid, SE Asian, Indian) was my total bestie. His name was Raj. I thought he was sooooo beautiful. I was 6 yrs old and madly in love.
I heard people around me talking about niggers so often that, one day, I asked my mother if Raj was a nigger. Hell, I had no idea. I had no clue what *n* meant. I think my mothers' heart may have stopped for a second, in a panic, figuring out how to answer this question.
I learned the racism thing because the adults in my life told me who the 'bad people' were. And, they were the brown ones. Or, at least, not the white ones.
hard wired? bullshit.
You were raised around "brown people" so you never looked at them as "different' and correct me if I am wrong, but I take it you still feel that way today.
I think people raised in all white, all black or even all Asian environments do look at people of other races as "different" and that does create a bit of a foundation for racism.
Personally, I was raised in a very mixed neighborhood. Black, brown, yellow and white were all well represented and I too didn't learn about racism until a bit later in life, by that time it was too late for it to "take" and I view all people as just that "people" I am just an asshole so instead of treating all people nicely, I treat them all badly, but I do treat them the same![]()
because there are so many good reasons to hate people on an individual basis."
Works for me!
I think it may depend on one's outlook or world view.
For some people, the familiar, the cozy, the known, is what brings them comfort. A grounding of sorts.
I tend to be more open, I like variety, and new experiences.
Either way, we are attracted to whatever and whomever brings us to our happy place, and leaves us with a good feeling.
OK. South Pacific was not about the same thing as the WSJ article is talking about, but it's a good message anyway.
But I have other studies about facial recognition ability being developed during a child's formative years. And the general perception of attractiveness (golden ratio). But there are also "other factors" that go beyond the visual (hormones; pheromones).
All I know is, "There ain't nothin' like a dame."
I have more thoughts on the topic but no time to post right now.
bloody mary is the gal i love!
I'm currently moonlighting as campus security.
I'm partial to short petite brunettes preferably with curves and a bubble butt white, latina, asian it really dosen't matter.
They are also some of the best lovers too!
Also white woman I have no problem with either.
I would never limit myself when it comes to race but do prefer woman of color.
I feel bad that I'm not attracted to Asians, Hispanics, and African Americans. I swear, I'm not prejudiced. I'm just hard wired to be attracted to skinny, blond, pale, Caucasian women.
So sue me.
Hands
http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-our-brains-respond-to-race-1452094579
Way back in the late 70s and early 80s, when I first started going to strip bars, I noticed the following and still see it today.
Most people seemed to be just the opposite of what you said. They don't want to be with lookalikes of their sisters or cousins. They are used to the people they grew up around, and they find different races exotic, and they are attracted to exotic. Hawaii has a lot of different races, and the majority of the residents are actually made up of a mixture of the different races. Usually, caucasian, Asian and Polynesian mixes. A lot of the "locals" are "hapa" or mixed races. Anyway, what I would observe in the strip clubs, and even out in "civvy" land is that the "locals" and Asian guys would go for the white gals, the white guys would go for the local hapa gals, and the black guys would go for the Asian gals. Was this 100 % true? Of course not, but it definitely seemed like a majority. Like I said it is not scientific but it is an observation I have noticed for many years and it seems to make sense.
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Most people seemed to be just the opposite of what you said. They don't want to be with lookalikes of their sisters or cousins. They are used to the people they grew up around, and they find different races exotic, and they are attracted to exotic. Hawaii has a big mix of races and the majority of the population is mixed races. Usually, caucasian, Asian and Polynesian mixes. A lot of the "locals" are "hapa" or mixed races. Anyway, what I would observe in the strip clubs, and even out in "civvy" land is that the "locals" and Asian guys would go for the white gals, the white guys would go for the local hapa gals, and the black guys would go for the Asian gals. Was this 100 % true? Of course not, but it definitely seemed like a majority. Like I said it is not scientific but it is an observation I have noticed for many years and it seems to make sense.
bad eyesight.
(ba-doom)
But seriously folks.....
I don't have any problem being attracted to gals of any race or size - I love them all, and for that I am grateful to my upbringing which taught me to judge people by their character. In fact, what mostly attracts me first, at least to the gals I've met on TER, (The vast majority of gals I've met in the last ten years.) is the way they handle themselves on the boards. I like witty and charming gals. If we meet and the chemistry is there, then it's gangbusters.
As for my own looks, this song pretty much sums it up for me:
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The link I want to post is for a You Tube video of Captain Beefheart and the Magic Band doing a tune called "Grown So Ugly I Don't Even Know My Face."
I am able to play it when I down load it on my IE browser, but then after I copied and pasted it onto TER and then tried to play it, I get a message that says that You Tube can't play the song on account of some international copyright law, or something like that. I tried 3 different version also. Each ends up the same.
So, can anyone here play it?
If not, try going to You Tube directly and then try it.
The issue could be that when I'm on TER I have to go through the TOR browser because otherwise my company's filters block TER
I could also open it up using my iPhone just now.
Odd as I've never had that happen before with You Tube while using TOR, and I look at lots of You Tube with it
No need to apologize for your narrow mindedness. I have seen numerous women from every ethnic group and here are my "scientific" conclusions: all pussies look, feel and taste pretty much the same; a hard dick has no eyes, just nerve endings; and at the exact moment that I am popping, she is the most gorgeous woman in the world and I love her:-p
If they were never in the running to begin with? Sort of like it is no loss that I miss out on a steaming plate of manudo. The thought of that shit can make me gag.
I guess if you are not attracted to morbidly obese women, someone who is, can it's your loss for not wanting to dive in head first.
It’s the feeling that you have to feel a certain way or that you have to police every single thought that leads to the various backlashes against cultural and racial sensitivity. I’m all for cultural and racial sensitivity and I don’t want to see that happen.
The time to feel bad is when preference becomes a judgment. “I’m not attracted to x ladies and I don’t understand how anybody else is, either.” That kind of thing. “I’m not attracted to x ladies and I can prove scientifically that they’re unattractive,” which some idiot who dared to call himself a scientist actually tried to do a few years ago.
I do think there is some hard wiring involved in attraction, but there’s a lot of socialization, too. If you grew up in Renaissance Italy, there’s a chance you’d see skinny, blond, pale, Caucasian women as sickly as opposed to ethereal, willowy, elegant, hot, or however you see them.
I find the "sickly" women beautiful and I find the dark, genuinely black women beautiful, too. My ideal is women with brown skin, black hair, and brown eyes maybe because they look like me or maybe because those are the women I grew up with and they’re the first women I fell in love with. Or maybe because that look really, really works. Probably all three
..."I’m not attracted to x ladies and I don’t understand how anybody else is, either.” "...
I can support an individuals likes and dislikes BUT keep it pertaining to themselves and leave others out of it. They can make up their own minds.
but even I have to agree here. It's what bothered me when some douche bag took the time out of his day to start a brand new thread about why he thought a well reviewed provider was ugly and didn't deserve her scores. THAT kind of thought process bothers me too.
I have insulted almost everybody here at one time or another, but I at least TRY not to insult anyone just for their looks, they have to be very ugly on the inside for me to comment on them being ugly on the outside and even then I try not to stoop to that level.
liked for the Renaissance reference, reminding us all that conventional attraction of the time is usually 90% societal
I feel bad that I'm not attracted to Asians, Hispanics, and African Americans. I swear, I'm not prejudiced. I'm just hard wired to be attracted to skinny, blond, pale, Caucasian women.
So sue me.
Hands
http://www.wsj.com/articles/how-our-brains-respond-to-race-1452094579
i dont' like russian women.
but not because i am not attracted to them. au contraire, i luvs me some blonde gorgeous caucasians, and russians are literally from the caucus mountains (some of them at least).
what puts me off is an irrational fear that every russian girl is one cousin removed from the russian mob.
i'm afraid if i piss one off i'll find myself gutted in an alley somewhere by their cousin ivan.
odd but true, i avoid baltic/eastern european/russian women in the hobby for this reason.
is this prejudice? not sure, as it's not coming from the lizard brain, but rather from (irrational and wrong) reasoning.
after all, you could say the same about latinas and gangs, but i luvs me some caliente chicas.
go figure.
