I have a question.
I have a very nice incall location complete with an extra large leather, heated massage table set up in my bedroom.
It has been my experience that the majority of gentlemen who spill their first cup rather quickly enjoy a massage in the "intermission" part of our dates. I try to keep my massages down to about 10 or 15 minutes. Sometimes I get requests to prolong the massage part and not go for that 2nd cup.
I offer the massage to everyone. Once they have had their first cup I'm not an eager beaver grabbing for the jewels trying to get it up again. I firmly believe that it takes at least 10-15 minutes for a guy to really be ready to go for a second round.
My question is, do you expect a massage during your session? If a girl offers you a massage do you feel she's "cheating" you out of naughty time? I would never want someone to be dissatisfied with a session with me, so far I don't think anyone has but I want to make sure that my actions are taken the right way.
Do you want a massage when you are with a provider or would you rather stay strictly with bed play?
Thanks!
Alyssa
some ladies just spend too much time on it as if they are trying to pace the session for a single cup. I think those are cheating.
Also why do you providers mostly start the session with a massage? I and probably many others would prefer it between the play times. Your offering of a massage after the 1st cup sounds good to me.
by request from a guy injured in the neck and shoulder while in Iraq. In fact we spent about 45 minutes on the massage table, 10 minutes having naughty time in between that and then a shower afterwards. I almost couldn't even get him to do naughty time....he really liked that massage.
I always keep a massage to 10 or 15 minutes. And it's NOT a backrub. It's definitely a massage. Back, neck, and feet for the most part.
I'm with amrdck. After the 1st cup, massage time. either giving or receiving. both if time allows. especially her feet and ankles.
I'm easy to please, and if the provider is interesting, funny and a good conversational, I'm happy to spoon and speak.
you had me at hello. I do love a massaage though after morning PT, or hmmm I guess anytime is good.
If you want something different from what you are getting please understand that we are not mind readers. You should make your wishes clear - be that the length of a massage, how many cups, the order of it all... You get what you want much more often when you simply ask! Many gents only come for one cup. I try to get a feel for this and pace things accordingly, however, the longer sessions I cater to leave plenty of time for other options... even WITH a serious full-on massage.
I start most sessions with a bath and/or bodywork because it's a good time to chat, relax, connect, discuss expectations or desires, and to get rid of any jitters around meeting for a first time. The massage itself can help awaken and stimulate a body. Oh yeah, I should also mention that bodywork can do a lot of good to help those struggling with ED or PE!
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Unfortunately, my realistic expectation is no cups. I have learned that there are a lot of things that one can do and enjoy in the experience to replace that. Only problem is, the woman is often disappointed. She loves the spectacle of that CUP. Oh well, life isn't perfect. I'm just happy to still be alive.
get you to relax. You have a voice. Use it. If I'm going to give a massage, I don't want it to be a half-assed massage, but then again if all you want to do is f _ _ k then tell me. Why should I waste my time on an incredible massage it you don't want it. Say something! The kind of massage I give I could get an extra $100 for, so why should I bother?
Hugs,
Ciara
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in giving a massage, I wouldn't complain at all. Just the opposite, I would appreciate it very much because I exercise a lot and there is nothing like a deep tissue massage after several hours in the gym.
I guess the problem is more with those ladies who give a 'half-assed' massage as you put it and just keep going on and on.
No matter what I say or don't say, I would be happier if the lady tried to get as many cups as possible in the session. Whether it might happen or not after the 1st cup is not important because just trying is also so good.
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Actually, I've had some men try to massage me and it was awful. Why bother? Because it showed they cared. However, in your case you're paying the donation and should get what you want. Just tell the lady. She cannot read your mind. Every man is different. Want a couple of cups, email me. 
Hugs,
Ciara
Hi Alyssa. Unless I were scheduling specifically for a massage, I wouldn't expect one, but would gladly accept one if offered. For me that's the "getting to know you" part of the visit. It's relaxing and intimate and we can chat easily about ... the weather - yeah - the weather. Or how about those wacky 17-year cicadas? Anyway, nothing at all wrong in my book to make the offer. If I were in or near Atlanta I'd take you up on that!
but if one is provided I really enjoy it on the bed where she can oil us up and both get slippery.
As to whether I feel "cheated" absolutely not! I typically book multiple hours specifically because I enjoy the downtime as much as the sweaty part.
and still get everything else? That disturbs me. Great! Now I'll stop giving massages. Picky bastards! 
Hugs,
Ciara
I love your massages except the soles of the feet. But then you know that and tease me with "It feels so good when I stop."
there is nothing more sensual and erotic than the loving touch of a beautiful woman.
Just my opinion...
B
My body certainly isn't anything to write home about. However when the lady is treating me like it is, well just tain't gettin' no better than that. You go girl! Reach in there and get all the intimate spots even up in my ass crack, and don't forget the boys while you are AT it...
I usually like giving massages better than getting one. For me, it's an important way of learning about my partner's body and I find myself relaxing as she does. I love getting a massage as part of the foreplay before the first cup, too.
Nothing like having at the ENTIRE female body. Only problem is, I SUCK at it. Just ask my recent victims. Sounds like I need to go to therapist school, or something. Besides in Maryland, one has to have a state license to give massages to the opposite sex (and therapist certification is a prerequisite for that license).
Oh, one other thing. How would the girls have a basis of comparison to be able to tell that I suck at it? Well with their money, they regularly go to get professionally done massages (by both men and women). So believe me, providers KNOW a good massage when they EXPERIENCE one.
Most civies don't know how to provide a good massage. I go to a masseuse for non-sexual whole body work. I go to a TER girl for play, but a short EROTIC teasing sexual massage in between or even at the start would be GREAT!
Sounds like what you do & your setup would be great!
Massage is a personal preference. I am very much a visual guy so I do not like spending time face down while I get a massage. I would rather be able to enjoy looking at you and touching you as we relax during re-coup. So, I always decline the offer.
When I want a massage I go to a masseuse, when I want legal advise I go to a lawyer, when I want my car fixed I go to a mechanic, when I want a tooth pulled I go to my dentist, when I want comfort I go to my wife, and when I want hot sex I go to my prostitute.
Oh yes, that would be your dominatrix! That is unless you are going for a Brazilian hot wax. Then you might be going to a salon studio.
Whether or not I expect a massage depends on how the provider advertises herself. If the provider is FS or GFE, then I never expect a massage at any time. I guess it could be a nice way to spend the downtime after the first cup; if it led directly to the second cup, then I certainly wouldn't feel cheated.
I think this is a big case of YMMV, so you should just ask.
I really enjoy massages. I think it's a great way to start a session, and I also like it as an "intermission" as you said. I prefer a massage every session, if possible. It also relaxes me very much at the beginning of the session.
Everyone has their own agenda/idea of what should be in a session, whether it's right or wrong for both parties. And I suppose alot of that has to do with the amount of time scheduled.
My own particular M.O. always starts with a mutual massage. I refer to it as a "getting to know you" thing. Beyond the fact that I like to give them, it gives me a chance to find the "hot spots"....LOL. Main reason I always go for a minimum of 2 hours. (I really hate rushing and it's my own "ice breaker" since I'm always nervous meeting someone for the first time.)
The only drawback I've encountered with this is letting time slip away when a lady has freckles. I have a tendency to play "connect the dots" with my tongue.
So far as multi-cups go. One Mount St. Helen's is worth more to me than a box of mini-pops.
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Well, so am I. Only problem is the mess, recovery, and cleanup. All are surmountable, just like the Mount.
When my current fav got a Mount St. Helens moment out of me (finally), she said that from then on she will bring me back to the mountaintop once every two hours! She said that will be MANDATORY. Should I take that as a threat, or a PROMISE?
I really appreciate all your input! Makes me feel better!
I love to give and receive, and the more the merrier.
A good massage can be just as erotic as nearly any other activity that a man or woman can do, but of course, taste do vary.
Good communication is the key.
Ask and you shall receive.
I happen to like a small massage to start a session because it relaxes me and brings my respiration and heartbeat down to normal comfortable levels. I also like another during the break.
I would imagine most clients will let you know if they don't want the massage and as long as it is 10-15 tops then they should not feel ripped off by it. That said, I did have one provider who took the massage a little too far. In a two hour session she spent a full 65 min on the pre-fun massage and every time I asked for something else she said she was almost done. Though a good massage, that was ridiculous and she spent so much time on it and wanting to talk religion that I couldn't have gone for 2 cups if I had wanted - and in a 2 hr session I expect it. It was too obviously a stall tactic and so I've never gone back. I think she was tired and the air cond wasn't working well on a 100 degree day so she figured making the massage last forever would cut down on her "work", JMHO.
I love giving and getting massages so it is an important part of all of my sessions. To each their own but I am far more leary of some providers who yap away like they are on meth and don't seem to want to do anything but chat. That seems much more like "wasted time" with some than a massage or necking/petting session, IMO. I enjoy a little chat and some providers are neat and interesting people that I enjoy chatting with, but I prefer that if MUST chat for 45 mins it start after the appt. I try not to be rude about it but a couple locals I've seen don't seem to take hints or direction well when they are in the middle of some rant about their cats, LOL.
Massages are actually more work than most realize, if given well. So . . . even though I enjoy giving them and include it in my session, I always let the man decide. Like I've said earlier, "You have a voice, use it!" You have the donation and you should be in control of what you want. If we're only spending an hour then a 40-minute massage is too much, but if the guy wants that, then that's what he'll get.
Perhaps you shouldn't just drop hints. Just say, "I don't want more massaging." Sit up and turn the woman over and go for it.
Hugs,
Ciara
I'm probably not good for the second pop so I'm very happy with a 'better than average' massage instead of fruitlessly going for the second pop.
If offered, I think the massage is a nice touch, especially if you know what you're doing in the field.
But I don't feel it a required thing ever, to me it's an extra or a bonus. I wouldn't feel cheated ever as long as both have a great time and get what was paid for.
BTW, I'm in school for massage therapy now. Just 7 more weeks to go!!
Jimbo
With an escort, I'd rather just stick to bedplay... it's what I'm paying for.
I actually love a massage - a real massage. Massage involves actual training and practice; I spend a lot of time in Asia so I'm spoiled when it comes to *actual* massage... ie. knowing the tsubo, etc.
As a rule, providers aren't CMTs, so massage is really just "body rub"... frankly, if it's just about getting ready for the second cup, I'd rather give the provider the body rub. It'll turn me on more; just my thing maybe, but that's my experience.
Now, I have had full-service sessions with a real, therapeutic massage after (at AMPs) and it's great. IF - a big if - a provider actually knows how to give a massage, then sure, why not.
The vast majority don't know how, though, so time is better spent playing
O.
