in this hobby. Some girls are illiterate, some are lazy, but mostly it's the Iphone/Blackberry culture where "BTW BRB" is considered an essay by Hoes. I wouldn't take it personally. Few will talk on the phone anymore, email is now too bothersome, and the communication is limited to one liners on a smartphone. Most of the smartphone users in this hobby are not that SMART IMO.
Before meeting a lady, there's usually the email / txt correspondence for those of us who plan ahead. I tend to think that this has come down to more of a form of art than a standard one size fits all.
I usually try to adapt to the provider's style. If she tends to write one liners then I stick to one liners. However, if she tends to write 3 paragraphs... I return the courtesy and write a longer one. ( There are also friends who write a thesis length with her stories, in which case I occasionally do the same but this wouldn't be typical. )
The interesting part is when we write a paragraph or longer, yet the other side responds with one or two words... at most a one liner. Unless one has a tendency to spill keyboard diarhia, one or a few paragraphs seems to convey thoughtfulness and having character. Do you guys / ladies get turned off when this happens or am I the only one who find it slightly impolite... even downright rude?
And I was discussing both sides. Sometimes I write back short on my phone too but never a two word reply habitually. It certainly does not help with their business if they have a track record of writing one liners.
There are degrees and "netiquette". It's not about finding a pen pal, you make it sound like I'm looking for one which isn't the case fuck tard. Sometimes it helps establish comfort /connection, and helps make the session more than just wham bam thank you maam. If fucking was all there is to it, thats what streetwalkers are for.
the fact that you can't differentiate between the two is surprising.
Posted By: BhristePéineas
Seriously, how hard is it:
1) Find a provider 2) Contact her with your screening info 3) Confirm day/time 4) GO GET LAID
These "I wrote her 10 page email and she responded to me with only one sentence. my feelings got hurt" posts are getting tiresome.
I like to be descriptive in my e-mails, usually it ranges about three paragraphs. The first paragraph is an introductory of myself, and what admiration for her. Second paragraphs are my referrals, and other thoughts. Last paragraph is appointments and any other things.
Some do reply with a paragraph. But, the ones that reply with a sentence or a few, its usually has its affect and is straight forward. For example, it make say, sure, I'll be available on *****, reply so I can confirm it. Or, something of that nature.
I am not discourage nor am I disappointed if its only a sentence or two. She gets straight to the point, and we can do all the talking when I am with her. Keep in mind, they do have other things to do besides providing They may be very busy with other things within their lives too. So, give them the benefit of the doubt. As long as their response is straight to the point, that is all that really matters. Also, not every lady can be politically correct when it comes to replying in an essay format. Happy 2012 brother!
I like to be descriptive as well but sometimes the abrupt ones expect other people to read their fucking minds. That kinda annoys me and given that we got plenty of other choices, it would deter me from booking with the likes of her.
Some people are just really long winded and write dissertations. I have one client in particular I saw over the summer who has emailed me 3-4 times a week for the past 4 months. (If youre reading this, you know I dont mind. I just cant respond at length.)
Anyway, I may respond only once a week with a sentence or two because thats all I have to say. Id rather keep it short than bore him with bla-bla filler conversation if I dont have any conviction behind it.
But in general, I will pretty much match what the person gives me. If he sends a one-liner, I will too. If he sends a few paragraphs, so will I. If im short, I may just be busy. And vice versa.
Communication is also part of compatability. Perfunctory responses are unacceptable. Personality is a plus. BOTH sides are responsible for common courtesy
People are busy, and actually I prefer a short reply than waiting hours for one. And as previously mentioned I'm not looking for a pen pal. My introductory emails are usually pretty concise and to the point. Matter of fact, I just emailed a lady in Vegas this morning. She replied with an email of equal length. Now we're done until I send a confirming email before my trip. I guess I'm kind of a low maintenance client when it comes to emails.
Didn't we just deal with short replies just 15 minutes ago, Buzzed?
Needy Guy email:
"Well hello there Candy Rentsit. I saw you website and you are so sexy and beautiful and everything I have ever dreamed of! Wowie Zowie! My handle on TER is GirthyMan6. You can contact Neecy at [email protected] and TSKina at [email protected] for recent refernces.
I'm looking for 2 hours on Feb 5th around 7pm. I have a lot of stamina so I want a woman who can go the distance with me. Let me know if this is a good time or what alternate time you might have.
I can't wait to meat you. I know we will both have fun because I know what ladies like, you gorgeous lump of sugar you!"
Provider response:
"OK. You're scheduled. See you then."
Needy Guy thinks to himself:
'What is with this cold hard bitch routine??? Errggg! Rude! Rude! Rude! I'm spending $800 and she can't even write me a flirty email. Well, she'll see. I will FUCK her RAW!
I'm going to post this on TER. Maybe she will read it and get a clue.'
Didn't we just deal with short replies just 15 minutes ago, Buzzed?
Needy Guy email:
"Well hello there Candy Rentsit. I saw you website and you are so sexy and beautiful and everything I have ever dreamed of! Wowie Zowie! My handle on TER is GirthyMan6. You can contact Neecy at [email protected] and TSKina at [email protected] for recent refernces.
I'm looking for 2 hours on Feb 5th around 7pm. I have a lot of stamina so I want a woman who can go the distance with me. Let me know if this is a good time or what alternate time you might have.
I can't wait to meat you. I know we will both have fun because I know what ladies like, you gorgeous lump of sugar you!"
Provider response:
"OK. You're scheduled. See you then."
Needy Guy thinks to himself:
'What is with this cold hard bitch routine??? Errggg! Rude! Rude! Rude! I'm spending $800 and she can't even write me a flirty email. Well, she'll see. I will FUCK her RAW!
I'm going to post this on TER. Maybe she will read it and get a clue.'
Two or three words. You also misunderstand that I'm referring to initial appointments lol. We certainly are not on the same page as I was referring to all stages.
Not conveying sufficient information also led to numerous confusion and misunderstanding when dealingg with this particular agency and provider I'm referring to.
If the provider or agency is going to communicate in a half ass manner that often leads to confusion and portrays halfassedness, then it makes me wonder if the short responses are indeed efficient (since it results in more confusion than necessary.)
Before meeting a lady, there's usually the email / txt correspondence for those of us who plan ahead. I tend to think that this has come down to more of a form of art than a standard one size fits all.
The interesting part is when we write a paragraph or longer, yet the other side responds with one or two words... at most a one liner. Unless one has a tendency to spill keyboard diarhia, one or a few paragraphs seems to convey thoughtfulness and having character. Do you guys / ladies get turned off when this happens or am I the only one who find it slightly impolite... even downright rude?
ROFLMFAOLOLOLOL I cant fucking believe what im reading. This is still a fucking fuck board right? how fucking hard is it to send a fucking email and get a fucking response without getting so fucking sensitive about whether the fucking response is fucking thotful or not LMFAO?
Me, I'll fuckin choose the other more polite lady who takes me for a more exciting ride and treats me with more fuckin respect. Surprisingly, many pitiful saps here willing to put up with lower quality and be treated like a fuckin mat from ladies.
Feel free to be the fucking whiny crybaby cause you got a fucking 1-line email response to your fucking novel email ROFLMFAOLOLOLOL. And you wonder why the hookers fucking 1 line email you LOL! so fucking sensitive ROFLMFAO!
The last thing I try to do is read someone's mind based on their email. Are the short responses worded rudely or are you just upset because they are short? Honestly, sometimes a lady has a few minutes to compose an email and sometimes she just doesn't-same as in real life.
The hobby is about the sex and the time spent together. Emails and texts are just a means to arranging those meetings. You are trying to make them part of the experience. Some girls will play along and some won't. Time is money.
Sometimes its A LOT of fun to flirt and keep in touch between appointments. For me, the fantasy and flirting is as exciting as the meeting itself. Of course you cant do this with everyone (or youd spend the whole day just being a penpal and getting nothing else accomplished.) ..and both people have to want it. Its not good if the guy is emailing a girl to death and shes not interested in flirting. Or the other way around. With my current ATF, we are in touch nearly everyday and he can get me aroused just off the words that he writes to me. The head games are very entertaining and I get a kick out of it.
I agree, I keep up similar contact with my ATF as well but that's not something every woman is going to be willing to do. What I take issue with in the original post is that anyone thinks that a simple brief email is rude.
Some people are habitual and it portrays halfassness. If they are half ass in that then it tells me what else would they be halfass about?
See my other post below and tell me if you would book with her again... when tons of other pretty / friendlier ladies are visiting the same week, every week?
I'm not a mind reader, I've never seen the women that you are complaining about and there are just too many variables for me to say "yes" I would see her or "no" I wouldn't.
I get lot's of one line responses even in emails from my ATF who I've known for years and share off the clock time with. "Are we on for Friday", "see you at 7", "wanna eat afterwards" "sorry, my period came early, have to cancel" What's the big deal? Once we are together she is a little chatter box right up until she puts my cock in her mouth...I'm strangely OK with it all...
You just have to accept the fact (or not accept it I guess) that not every provider wants to carry on conversations with you via email. See them or don't see them based on whatever criteria works for YOU. That's what P4P is all about right?
Don't mean to sound like a smart ass but simply telling you exactly what happened. The lady I'm seeing later in the month is going to be pocketing about $8k (or $15k if I decided to extend it) while the last one who sent me that half ass reply, I might see for 1 or 2 hours if I still have hobby funds left over this month. Both are equally pretty but I felt much more captivated, if you will, with the lady who paid very close attention to detail.
In any occupation, doing less work and getting more $ is the goal. But lets not forget that guys in this hobby have an abundance of choices and really not desperate to see any one in particular.
There's little incentive for me to book a lady that habitually confuses the hell out of me, need to clarify, and gives off the smell that she's so much better and busier. Some of us are busy as hell too, working to make money to hobby and also get bombarded with solicitation emails from equally cute ladies.
Not that I mind, if it's a genuine (or disguised as) a thoughtful correspondence from a gorgeous lady.
According to several knowledgeable sources, vast majority are broke after blowing it all away and are actively looking for business. There are ones who do not even need to advertise but they are only a small % that overwhelmed with requests. they certainly do not represent the majority. Your assumptions couldn't be more wrong.
Posted By: Bostonguy57
Let's not forget that many of these womonlyen get more requests for meetings than they could ever handle. LOL, They have choices too...
According to several knowledgeable sources, vast majority are broke after blowing it all away and are actively looking for business. There are ones who do not even need to advertise but they are only a small % that overwhelmed with requests. they certainly do not represent the majority. Your assumptions couldn't be more wrong.
Posted By: Bostonguy57
Let's not forget that many of these womonlyen get more requests for meetings than they could ever handle. LOL, They have choices too...
Some ladies make that in a single day and yet they still don't give the two-word "I'm so much busier than you" snobby response.
Also, guess who's paying that $5k income of yours... it's guys like me, believe it or not. I rarely repeat but when I do find a favorite, I repeat frequently.
I wouldn't say stuff like this to your face but still post the board in order to rant. Just sayin that it's probably a good idea that ladies treat clients with a little more respect and manners. Some guys are eternal whiteknights and put up with anything, even sucking in a drug possession charge, but some guys don't find rudeness too cute.
"Reliable sources"? LMAO!Where do your stats come from the hooker registry? Oh wait, there isn't one! There are no reliable sources other than the ladies themselves Buzz. For every lady who wants to see 20 guys a week there is one who works UTR and only sees 2 or 3 a month-and everything in between. My assumptions are no more accurate or inaccurate than yours are...
Clearly this is a pet peeve of yours and that's your right, it's your money.
You haven't seen what "overwhelmed" really is. It's when a girl stops advertising all together but still can manage to book several guys every single day getting filled fast while still able to charging 3x ~ 5x more than the normal hourly rates. These aren't typical and only the top 1% or so.
However, according to the said sources, rest of the providers clearly do not do as well as these top performers. Some claim to rake in big dough but never really have any left over. Some desperate ones even create board drama to get more attention... but all have one thing in common: the need to advertise in order to sustain their business. (ie: soliciting customers). And that tells me everything I need to know: that they are seeking business from the likes of me because they need to make more money.
If you don't believe that most providers don't have much money saved up, get a few of your ATFs piss drunk and ask if they saved enough to sustain 6 months without working. I've had a number of providers come asking me for $, which goes against common sense since in theory they should be raking in a tad more than I do, but clearly that isn't the case.
Sure they can be picky but they won't make as much money... that's their choice if they prefer to treat their clients as nothing more than an ATM machine with a penis attached. But the successful ones seem to lure the male psyche and extract many times more out of the guys pocket in clever ways, all the while the guy is happier about seeing those ladies. It's a win win situation. lol
Heck, If you're fine with providers giving you half ass replies that is your right too. Most guys put up with whatever bs these girls put them through, so why not? It's no surprise many guys have a weakness for the opposite gender, especially cute ones. I hear that some dude took the blame of a girl's drug possession. How noble of him. Now that's the biggest whiteknight in the world, of all time. I bet her boyfriend is laughing his ass off though.
in this hobby. Some girls are illiterate, some are lazy, but mostly it's the Iphone/Blackberry culture where "BTW BRB" is considered an essay by Hoes. I wouldn't take it personally. Few will talk on the phone anymore, email is now too bothersome, and the communication is limited to one liners on a smartphone. Most of the smartphone users in this hobby are not that SMART IMO.
that provider that you wrote a long email to and expect a same length response has also been corresponding with several other people and she recieves several emails a day. Plus she has her appointments that day and what her personal life has on the calendar for that day.... maybe her hands hurt from typing so much .... but on a serious note do not take it personal sometimes she may not know what to say or she feels like her one line answered everything/ sums everything up.
You have to remember that you are writing to one girl. Providers get tons of emails a day that we have to respond to. We can't write long emails to everyone or it would take up our entire day. I typically just try to stick to short emails. You'll have plenty of time to get to know me when you meet me. You shouldn't take it so personally unless she blatantly ignores whatever you're saying/asking.
majority seem to have missed the point, its like... tell me something I don't know. I don't think I am new to this. lol. Let's not forget hobbyists also correspond with many providers on any given day too, and I often have difficulty choosing which lady to see because there are many good ones visiting my town.
look at example below and tell me if you would book with her if you were a guy? Given that there are equally cute girls in my town every single day, guys certianly have plenty of other ladies to choose from. Equally pretty, similar performance... then naturally other factors such as friendliness, gfe, connection, netiquette, come into play.
Her, "Hi, how are you?"
I say "hi, how have you been. Im just taking care of things, busy with my work and what not. I saw that movie you told me about last time. It was scary... I enjoyed it very much. The ending was what really got me though. I was surprised by how it ended. Anyway, been a while since I saw you."
Her "ya, 3 mos"
Me, "has it been that long? Wow. What have you been up to? How's your mother, is she ok. "
Her "nothing, working" Two hours pass by, she sends again, "so...?" Me, "huh? What did you mean?" Her, "I'm in town"
majority seem to have missed the point, its like... tell me something I don't know. I don't think I am new to this. lol. Let's not forget hobbyists also correspond with many providers on any given day too, and I often have difficulty choosing which lady to see because there are many good ones visiting my town.
look at example below and tell me if you would book with her if you were a guy? Given that there are equally cute girls in my town every single day, guys certianly have plenty of other ladies to choose from. Equally pretty, similar performance... then naturally other factors such as friendliness, gfe, connection, netiquette, come into play.
Her, "Hi, how are you?"
I say "hi, how have you been. Im just taking care of things, busy with my work and what not. I saw that movie you told me about last time. It was scary... I enjoyed it very much. The ending was what really got me though. I was surprised by how it ended. Anyway, been a while since I saw you."
Her "ya, 3 mos"
Me, "has it been that long? Wow. What have you been up to? How's your mother, is she ok. "
Her "nothing, working" Two hours pass by, she sends again, "so...?" Me, "huh? What did you mean?" Her, "I'm in town"
I do sincerely appreciate a thoughtful introduction in an email, along with all of the usual required verification information. I usually do respond in kind.
As communication techniques evolve, I have noticed an increase in shorter replies, one liners, and abreviations. We all have to realize that more often, people are using their phones to email.
Do you prefer a prompt reply that may be short? or do have the patience to wait 12 - 24 hours for a full paragraph?
As with any other request you may have, sharing your communication preferences is important.
Indeed, people are using phones these days and naturally responses get short. However, there are *degrees* and hence the reason why I brought it up. I'm actually surprised at the number of typical "no-shit" responses but I guess it was partly my fault for writing the original post in a general / vague manner without the supporting details.
The point of this thread is that a habitual two word response gives off the image that "I'm so much more busy and better than you, I get emails all the time." Maybe so but we're the ones who are paying and have a plethora of other ladies to choose from. It's not that guys like me don't understand, it's when it becomes extreme that becomes a turn off.
IMHO, the confusion that arises from abrupt / conciseness would actually be more of a concern compared to its impoliteness, considering the time wasted trying to clarify important and critical information.... I've had agencies set my appointment 2 days early, wrong girl, etc all because they tend to respond with 2 words max without confirmation.
Thoughtful reply? It sounds a bit more like a sarcastic reply. I suppose that is just another hurdle given the type of communication.
I do completely agree with you, and understand that a habitual two word response is not professional. If it is "habitual", you imply that you have an established relationship with this provider. If you are not happy with her responses, my point was, tell her. Just as you might request a particular outfit, or request for her not to wear perfume, you might want to let her know that you enjoy the building of anticipation via flirtatious email exchanges.
I also feel that if you seek a provider with an increased vocabulary and experience in more in depth teasing, that she is out there. The style of interaction you seek is from an independent lady, who is low volume, and answers her own email.
Further, understand that many providers go through the exact same thing you are experiencing, and more. Usually, those who write lengthy, flirty emails are time wasters who get off on the email exchange and cancel appointments at the last minute. Keeping an email short and sweet "weeds out" those type of time wasters.
Flirtatious emails may also lead to explicit emails, as a natural course of one becoming comfortable with the exchange. There are some providers who will not see a client after anything explicit is written. So, again, keeping things concise is a safeguard against crossing that line.
Best of luck in finding who you seek ~ Crysta
Posted By: BuzzedLightYear
Indeed, people are using phones these days and naturally responses get short. However, there are *degrees* and hence the reason why I brought it up. I'm actually surprised at the number of typical "no-shit" responses but I guess it was partly my fault for writing the original post in a general / vague manner without the supporting details.
The point of this thread is that a habitual two word response gives off the image that "I'm so much more busy and better than you, I get emails all the time." Maybe so but we're the ones who are paying and have a plethora of other ladies to choose from. It's not that guys like me don't understand, it's when it becomes extreme that becomes a turn off.
IMHO, the confusion that arises from abrupt / conciseness would actually be more of a concern compared to its impoliteness, considering the time wasted trying to clarify important and critical information.... I've had agencies set my appointment 2 days early, wrong girl, etc all because they tend to respond with 2 words max without confirmation.
But you'd be wrong about the flirtatiousness. In fact, it is usually the lady who is flirting and writes explicit txt or email. There were a few who would write teasing emails and send explicit photos. I found that this is more common than I thought. Some ladies even txt me while playing with themselves: A bit TMI but interesting how some ladies want to share that. On the flip side, a habitual two-word response tells me that the lady would be a time waster as well, bland and dull.
Sometimes it is interesting how the other responders jumped to conclusions and see things only in black and white, especially when the whole point was that there are Degrees and one should really try to fit within an acceptable range where most wouldn't consider outliers.
As for the typical length of my email, it is no lengthier than this post unless the situation called for a more detailed one.
Some will answer their own email, but often, a booker, pimp, girl friend will handle the correspondence. Beside, texting, pm, email are pretty impersonal methods of communication. If you've done your homework, you should already know her menu, prices, seen pics and read reviews. Don't sweat the little stuff, just get the appointment booked.
Posted By: BuzzedLightYear
Before meeting a lady, there's usually the email / txt correspondence for those of us who plan ahead. I tend to think that this has come down to more of a form of art than a standard one size fits all.
I usually try to adapt to the provider's style. If she tends to write one liners then I stick to one liners. However, if she tends to write 3 paragraphs... I return the courtesy and write a longer one. ( There are also friends who write a thesis length with her stories, in which case I occasionally do the same but this wouldn't be typical. )
The interesting part is when we write a paragraph or longer, yet the other side responds with one or two words... at most a one liner. Unless one has a tendency to spill keyboard diarhia, one or a few paragraphs seems to convey thoughtfulness and having character. Do you guys / ladies get turned off when this happens or am I the only one who find it slightly impolite... even downright rude?
Yes, it is downright RUDE. In business I deal with that every day
You take the time to give someone an abundance of time and information, and the best they can do is type "Thanks" and click send, if they can even muster up the effort to do that...
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They may be very busy with other things within their lives too. So, give them the benefit of the doubt. As long as their response is straight to the point, that is all that really matters. Also, not every lady can be politically correct when it comes to replying in an essay format. Happy 2012 brother!
