So in a recent encounter, I was performing BBBJ and the gentleman had his hand on the back of my head.  Nothing unusual there lol.   As he approached climax, he tightened his grip, holding my head and neck in place.  Again, not an odd occurrence for me as CIM is on my menu.  

No way am I going to be using any kind of force on a woman who has my manhood between her teeth and her hands around the family jewels.  

If he wasn't positive about it going in, he should have clarified it once there. If I'm not sure she allows CIM, I always ask her once there. I don't want to disrespect or anger her for doing something she wasn't expecting.  

...what kind of guy would have so little self-control or awareness of his own body and its reactions as to achieve an "accidental" CIM.  

... it was an appropriate response by the young lady. I always read the reviews of a woman I am seeing for the first time. As far as holding her head down. I think that is uncalled for. I like treating the lady with respect. We have more fun that way. I also have no problem getting references from the ladies. Respect is a two way street. Maybe I am mellowing as I get older but I will live with that.

Tell him to leave and never see him again is the best response. Warn other providers who does not offer it is also helpful. He needs to learn to ask first and controls himself if he still does not get it. He probably likes it much more on someone who does not offer it and that is why he acts like that. Pushing boundary is what some people enjoy doing to feel special.

It's always interesting to me if I read a review about a girl I know does not CIM or if she does she spits it out, then some guy posts about BBJCIMNSNQ.... I generally think he is lying or he is an asshole like this guy was..... I could be wrong but I go by what she has posted and what she has said.

Even though you allow CIM, what he did to you was wrong too. Now if he did the same thing twice, do you think that's the only two times he did that? Unless it's a dom/sub session (which of course is planned ahead of time), nobody should be forced to do anything.

I guess he follows the old maxim ...

It takes two seconds to ask for consent. Be it during the heat of the moment or as a way to build up sexual tension. I feel like to say 'I didn't know' is taking the easy way out. Personally, I wouldn't spit in his face but maybe she was trying to make a point with her distaste? Lol. Either way, I'd definitely let him off with a huge warning to not do that again to me or any other lady!

...... medicine. He's basically raping.
 And then using what so many parents teach their kids. That the saying sorry is repairing the situation, so he can go on and do it again. Because the ladies just let it go and probably don't pass it along to other ladies.  

Both of these ladies' response are reasonable but I am sorry to say that all he would hear from Debra's response was that "it was okay" and never remember that he should "try to stay more aware next time". He will continue to do exactly the same thing again to other providers no matter what's on her menu. This is what boundary pusher loves to hear the most, that it was okay.
Being spit on did not stop him from doing it again so that's why I think others need to know about him and decide if they should see him or not. It may ruin the moment but ladies may want to tell guys ahead of time to let go of her head as soon as they cum to avoid being in a sticky situation. Guys will have no excuse and will deserve whatever response they get.

Getting punched in the dick really doesn't hurt at all, and if you punch someone like Mick in the dick he's liable to follow you around like a little puppy dog asking you to do it again.

This guy knew what he was doing. Classless.  The lady always sets the boundary. I would warn others if you can.  

Then again if he's into CBT he might like both....fuck.

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Ladies that allow CIM and those that don't, deserve to be treated respectfully. In my book forcefully holding a lady's head or pushing the back of it is just the opposite. The guy Debra saw knows exactly what he is doing. I hope he's on her DNS list now. I can't say what I'd like to see happen to him, I might appear to be a MHB if I did, lol!

holding a lady's head and god forbid her neck down.  The guy gets off on treating women that way.  

It appears to be a pattern with him so I doubt it will be the last time he does it no matter how huge of a warning he gets.

Mocha you are funny! This made me laugh thank you  

........ a riding crop to the testicles is quite wonderful.

is that this guy doing that to you didn't really bother you, but a guy joking about the magic opening door bothers you.

That's just Debra's boundary and if he likes Debra then he would try to see Debra again and do the same thing then apologize again too. If there is something else he likes to do, he would try that too without asking and see how Debra responds.

Sounds to me like he's got a pattern of forcing himself on providers  
Since there are many who wouldn't object if they knew in advance you have to wonder if the violence itself is what he gets off on
My experience tells me that guys like this tend to escalate their violence.  
Some providers in the future could be hurt  
I'd suggest you not see him again.

I do not normally do CIM, but it has happened, (discussed first).  I normally hold/touch their hands, as I do not like my head being held/pushed down.  This guy really needs to talk to his ladies first and discuss what he likes to do and what his lady is comfortable with.  

as a matter of course, then “apologizes profusely” to get away with it.  He sounds like a passive aggressive little turd.

Forced CIM,are you kidding- who would do that to any woman???...A Real Public Stoning should be called for...unwanted CIM means he's a rude,narcissist and probably runs a "2 minute offense" no warning?/no im coming?no im an asshole,watch out???....listen gang i love open oral explorations...haved worked up to CIM w those few i trust and see regularly...have open discussion with providers on the road or when i'm traveling...its never a deal breaker...but a good in depth oral "introduction"(on both ends)-usually helps relieve any initial nervous tensions and allows for a real complete sexual experience...

Holding her head down?  Just wrong on so many levels!  As a gentleman, my first concern is that I don't choke or suffocate her.  
He should be DNS for holding her head after she tapped out.  IF you allow him to hold your head at all, he should on alert to release you when requested.  What an ass hat.  

Sorry that happened to you Debra H. Even though you say you're used to it, and offer the service - not like that. I'm sure you were scared for a moment, and his apology really didn't make it better. Maybe slightly because the frightening situation was over, but that's not right. Although you're trying to rationalize it was ok, it wasn't. He knew what he was doing and should have let go when you tapped out. Its a universally understood sign amongst men.

absolutely agree    this is tantamount to rape which is about power and violence NOT about sex    you should blacklist him before he escalates to the next scenario in his warped mind which will be a lot worse

I would learn a lesson to NOT ALLOW hands holding your head.  Period.  You need the ability to move your head for self preservation.   I would make it a rule.  Tell all gentlemen this simple rule.  Maybe touching is OK but holding is NOT!  Warn them in advance that you'll STOP if they do it.  

Twice is a pattern.  I believe you should out this guy as he could be a danger to the girls.  The use of force and control is what get rapists off not the sex.  

I kept my OP short and to the point, but perhaps in doing so I unintentionally painted a much different picture of what really happened between the client and myself.

But I dont think this prick cares. It sounds like he gets off by forcing girls to do things that they don't want to do. I remember reading about guys who would slip.off condoms so they could cum in girls on the sly. Often blaming it on a broken condom. One asshole even coached other dirtbags on how to get away with it ...  things like keeping the ring or rolled up part of the condom (everything else cut away) on their dick.

I thought highly of your response to him in the OP. This post only confirms it and you didn't paint any different picture from what I read. While he may be truly remorseful, he is not likely a contrite individual. Words alone won't change him. Nothing short of having difficulty seeing new lady may change his actions so what you did in the OP and now is simply perfect.

But he’ll never be charged. One can only hope that he gets so desperate, as his blacklisting limits his options, he slips up and tries this with a Backpage Provider who has a pimp waiting outside in the parking lot.  Sometimes street justice is the only option available in this business.

This guy just seems like a jerk that will continue to do this to every provider he sees regardless if she allows it or not. Sounds like he deserved his own body fluids spit in his face.

If you are not the first provider who has had to literally slap him into his senses, then he needs to realize that he might not be considering how he's conducting himself with providers when he's reached orgasm.

Guys who are aggressive with BJ are that way because it is a thing for them. Seems to me that in your experience you both fell short of communication. He isn't supposed to assume that he can do that with anyone and should have mentioned that he likes that to give you a heads up.

From the description of the incident, it sounds very forceful....bordering on rape. Forcefully holding your head, and then not letting you off. Sounds like he was trying to force you to swallow...or something. I don't pretend to know what goes through a sick fucks head. I think seeing him again would be a mistake, as I believe his acts will probably escalate. Not seeing him again might save you, but other providers deserve to know what's up. No woman should be disrespected ..... not like that, and not under any circumstances. P4P is nice.... a chance to meet a beautiful woman, and a woman who is more adventurous than the everyday. But at no point does that donation negate that woman's right to be respected. Sorry....sounds like he's a sick fuck to me.

While I love seeing a beautiful woman's face and lips around my members, I never push her head down hard like this.  I find it disrespectful.  I will caress her head/face and sometimes help with the motion.  Perhaps I'm lucky.  Everyone I've seen tends to suck me bone dry and I actually have to tell THEM to stop because it's starting to hurt! It's an amazing feeling to have your member still being sucked up after you've cum.  Very sensual.

I’ve had 1 client that intentionally did this and I hit him with an uppercut right to the junk. CIM is not on my menu and he knew that but decided to do it anyway.

I think Debra is so beautiful that I cannot imagine to do anything forceful to her, unless she asks me because she enjoys it.