Have you ever had a male client bring you to orgasm thru the main act itself?  How often does it occur?
I've read that most women achieve their orgasms thru oral pleasure alone. For the lucky Guy who is able to accomplish this feat, would you go out of your way to keep seeing him as a regular client.

I, like most women, can have a vaginal orgasm, a clitoral orgasm, or a combo which is by far the best. I have vaginal orgasms almost every time I have sex. Clitoral orgasms are harder for me to acheive if someone else is doing the stimulation. My favorite way to orgasm is if I'm being stimulated with a finger or cock inside me and I'm twiddling my clit. Hope this was helpful!

I have a few regulars who slam me HARD.. cervix f*kkin I call it.. and I have to admit.. when they contact me I try desperately to MAKE room for them if at all possible!  Talk about c*mmin.. it is more like OUT of body shaking squirming SCREAMING... and then listless throbbing BLISS!

a guy hits their cervix, because it was painful.  

Or is that why you like it?

Confused....

sex..some of us women are sensation and intensity JUNKIES so to speak.. I like my sex RAW and PRIMAL... where it is a very fine line between too much and oh SOOOO GOOOOOD!

and I mean that in the best sense.

She may have been paraphrasing with her expression, but if you are familiar with BeBe, she may not have.

Yeah , I'm right there with you on this one. Some say be soft and gentle then turn around and want it a little more vigorous, or vice versa. I'm sure it varies person to person too. Ladies, do you need to be stimulated or in the mood for one type versus the other? What factors contribute to wanting/preferring one style over another?

And then it seems like to me that some of you are such pros you can adapt to whatever a particular clients desires, how can this be, is it just good acting skills?

Yep, definitely confused now, mr.man

Vaginal orgasm through stimulation of the so-called 'G' spot is possible, but it takes consistent stimulation over a long time (5-25 mins).

For most women direct stimulation of the clitoris is the only way they will orgasm.

Sorry guys.  

A clit cum is only ONE kind of cum. G-spot is another type.. which actually many women can attain pretty quickly if the stimulation is lubricated and on the right spot and intense.. but there are other types of cums too. In the right kind of environment.. with enough mental, emotional, fantasy stimulation going on.. women can cum without even being touched at all.  

I have to admit for me.. if the stimulation in and of itself is not enough for me I will put my head where it needs to be myself.. which puts me on the edge where almost any physical stimulation will get me off.  Course.. my bend is getting "used" and that is why I love this work.. cause it turns me ONNNNNN to be treated like a piece of meat ANYWAYS. LOL

Sexuality in many ways is a place of mystical otherworldy space.. and it takes conscious effort in discovering who you can be in these differing perceptional planes.  I am not an actress.. oh believe me 100% on that one and I have background to prove it. But.. touching on the different parts of the spectrum of who I AM.. is another story altogether.  

Yes bebedoll, I believe you. As I said, most women need other forms of stimulation.  But there will be others, and possibly many is this community, given that we are an unusual sample group, who can achieve orgasm through more indirect means.

However, I wouldn't mind betting that a high percentage of US providers are on antidepressants - probably a higher % than in the total US population - and of course most of the more commonly prescribed SSRI antidepressants make it very, very difficult for women to achieve orgasm.

To me, the more interesting question is why women feel the need to fake orgasms in this situation, and why men are so ready to suspend their disbelief.  You could build a whole thesis around that one.

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Well, we may be made for each other because it takes me a very long time to come and I'm usually slamming the poor woman quite vigorously toward the end.  I'm told I'm a good size and have been called a human vibrator.  Some don't care for me because I'm at it so long and I've lost out on some nice women who want it gentle.  I'll look you up unless bebedoll is not your working name.

Reon't be confused each women is different.

There is no standard owner's manual for women's bodies like there is for the automobile sitting in your driveway.  

From what I have read the G-Spot on a woman is located on average from 1 1/2 inches to 4 inches inside her.  At 1 1/2 inches you can probably easily stimulate her G-spot with your fingers while you lick her clit.  At 4 inches your fingers may not be long enough to reach her G-Spot.  

Some ladies find it painful if you barely touch their clit with your tongue.  I have seen other ladies masturbating with such gusto that I was glad it was them not me because had it been my dick I doubt that I would have been walking right for the next month.

People have written whole books on some of these differences.  All you can do is try and find out what works for a paticular lady and try to oblige her.  In some cases you may be able to make her happy and in some cases you will not be able to make her happy.  

The nice thing about this business is that if you are clean and treat the lady with respect chances are that she will be more than happy to see you again.

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and his name is Wiggly Woo!

I have known a fair amount of women in my life, both providers and GF's, who have very seldom achieved orgasm or who required the right amount of work or the right circumstances for it.  I am with you, Em, in that the concept of faking orgasm is abhorrant to me.  I can't say that it has never been done to me, but if it has, it has been very infrequently, and against my stated wishes.  I, and many men I know, do not need to have our egos stroked in this area, and would find it more of something that detracts from the experience that anything.  Of course, in occasions with women who we don't know that well still (like providers), if they are determined to fake it, and are good at it, we could be fooled, but it certainly is not from a desire to suspend our disbelief, as I either put a lot of effort into taking care of my partner or "let it be", depending on the circumstances of the encounter.

I can see how women in this business might think it would be important to fake, as the purported client ego boost might be condusive to engendering repeat business.  However, I would prefer to see a woman who I knew did not achieve orgasm with me the previous session or two but who I knew genuinely enjoyed our time together and I felt a connection with than one who I thought put on an act...anyday.

I also have known providers who faked because their client wasn't secure enough with themselves to accept that they couldn't bring her to orgasm and kept working at it until it was physically uncomfortable.  Again, I can see why a provider might think it would be better to just fake it with that client at that point than try to communicate with a person who was obviously not intuitive, but that is, as you said, opening up another can of worms.

As someone I respect once said, communication = the response you get.


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It's hard for women to experience orgasm without emotional connection. It's a taboo for providers to develop emotional tie with clients.  Given these two mutually exclusive conditions, it's rare a provider ever reaches orgasm with clients. She has to be numb in feeling to see hundred to thousand of clients a year.  No matter what the provider tells you or pretend to be, it's all fake.

There are many women in the provider community who can have an O without having any romantic feelings toward the man.  They may be in the minority, but they are there.  NOSC is one example.  Contrary to the opinion of the new "moral majority", this can be a healthy and empowering thing for a woman.  But there are still a lot of men who just can'tunderstand this.

But I will say that it is usually true that the provider has to feel "safe" and confortable for the O to happen.

that is on medication? I have two friends of mine who are and neither would even think about providing. I am not on medication or any kind of pills or drugs. I can come fast and have multiple orgasms. I never knew I could do that. It took a 19 year old white college student to help me realize that. A woman can bring herself to orgasm by stimulating her G spot herself. I've done it more times than I wish to admit but I have. I have taught a few of my clients who ask me, what do you want me to do to you? It took some time but the results, a heart stopping wet orgasm and a temporarily loss of sight, was worth it. It's not always acting on the providers part. If I'm not into the guy, I'm not into him it's that simple. I can't fake being into a guy. If I am into him he will know it. The question about women faking it would probably be to satisfy the client or perhaps to get it over with? I don't know. I am guessing. When I go on a call it's not just the client I am satisfying but myself. Call me selfish but I do. I have been blessed to have met up with considerate mature (over 40 is my favorite) gentleman who insists on doing whatever it takes to make me come at least twice so to all of you guys I say thanks!!

A few times I have been with overly endowed men and I felt them hitting some spots while in deep, there might be pain if they are banging but if the guy is average and doing it hard then he is well on his way to getting sprayed by me. Especially doggy! Especially if he is spanking my ass or pulling on the garter belt. Especially if he is going in really deep. Especially if he is calling my dirty names. I think I need a cold drink now.

Very true. What turns me on is a guy who smells great. There is a cologne called Curve that gets me red hot. I saw a guy who wore this stuff. He only scheduled a two hour visit and I ended up spending the night. If a guy smells really good even if he isn't in the best shape and his looks are ok he is gonna have a really good time. This is strictly my POV. There doesn't have to be an emotional connection for me and why should there be? Neither one of us are using our real names. Every guy is either John or Jim or Bob. I don't know much about him and he doesn't know anything about me. We are just there to turn each other on, come a few times and leave. If he calls me back, good. If not, oh well.

Can't help but notice on your site and on these boards you take some relish in taking backhanded slaps at the US whenever possible.

then your response will be treated with the contempt it deserves - ie a lot.

SweetTina,

Were do you live?  I might be able to help you with the cool drink after we ..... 8-).

NOT that other's didn't! But, you summed it all: "All you can do is try and find out what works for a paticular lady"

To me: everyone woman is different! Not every woman, is the same. To me,chemistry plays a large part of helping me to orgasm. From there, it's technique: you either have it or not.  Also, some men have an impression that just because a woman does NOT orgasm, means  she is not having a good time:  So Not True!!!!

Anyways, just my 0.02 percentile of the conversation here

Mel
http://theeroticreview.com/link/link.asp?ID=8214

Next time one of the men asks a reasonable question that warrants a considered response I will ensure that I keep in my box and tell them what I think they want to hear rather than my opinion.

And a big thumbsdown to you Sweet Tina for shooting the messenger.  Very tacky indeed girlfriend.

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..the part of your post that was truth.... "most of the more commonly prescribed SSRI antidepressants make it very, very difficult for women to achieve orgasm." wasn't what she was referring to at all.

While the part that you now seem to have your panties in a bunch about.. "However, I wouldn't mind betting that a high percentage of US providers are on antidepressants - probably a higher % than in the total US population" is conjecture. So she used her own form of conjecture back is all.
 

I was not looking for you to get off your high horse and respond but was just stating what is blatantly obvious.

Understand this - the stresses of providing in the USA are a lot higher than in the other developed nations.  Its illegality  means these women run the risk every day of:

Being arrested and the subsequent humiliation
Being fined and/or jailed
Having a criminal record
Losing custody of their children to an ex-spouse or worse, the state
Blackmail from LE and clients
Prosecution for tax evasion
No credit history and therefore no access to financing for housing, cars etc etc etc

The simple truth is that women in the UK, NZ, Australia, Canada and many European nations don't have to deal with many of these issues.  So my hypothesis, that any sample of US providers is more likely to be taking anti-depressants than a sample from the general US population is reasonable. Conjecture it may be, but based on sound reasoning.  

Regardless, I still fail to see that the issue of whether I, or anyone else, takes SSRI's, heroin, anti-histamines or dog worming pills is anyone's business.  So I was a bit surprised that SweetTina thought it was hers.








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My first year in the hobby.  

The first provider I saw was a stunningly beautiful woman, but she told me truthfully that orgasm for her would not happen that session.  It just doesn't.  I had to rate her just a 7 due to TER guidelines (covered activity only, no kissing), otherwise I would have given her a 10 on performance.  I'm thankful for her honesty, and I have seen her again and will continue to.  

I would say when a tryster has apparently had an orgasm with me, it was, at least half the time, from her stimulating herself with a vibrator.  Since I really wasn't doing it, it couldn't boost my ego, it woudl have been a waste of time if she wasn't actually having one, and I assume if she is uses this tool in her "private practice," why pull it out just to fake for me?    

A partner's  orgasm does a lot for my voyeristic pleasure, but, till recently, it hasn't fed my ego.  I just have a fetish for the way women look when they climax.  If she's not capable of it, there are other pleasures we could enjoy.  

Nevertheless, I crossed over into something new in this last session.  During some really aggressive, pounding doggie, spanking the ass, dirty talking and all that, and I knew for sure she had really climaxed at the end of it by the gush of liquid all over my balls.  

Now I understand how that could boost a guy's ego.  I really felt some animal pride with that, I have to admit

/Zin


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I understand those things all to well Emma. Well, except for the last two, which I feel are non issues for any lady with an average IQ and a decent accountant(or at least they should be).

And I don't really disagree with them to much, perhaps had you phrased it that way initially she wouldn't have said what she said. Sometimes you come off as very condescending, and when you open the door, the shit will blow in as well as out.

In my opinion, this was one of those times.

Keep up the posts Emma.  I think many people would rather hear an attempt to get at the truth rather than an answer designed to make everyone feel good.

and certainly, they are recurrent issues that are raised in chat.  Maybe you should tune in more often.

Are any of the ladies in chat NOT depressed, not on SSRIs, not on crack or 420, or not in the midst of getting drunk?  Or are they just into drama and/or fantasies?

I think Georges Bernanos summed it up nicely when he said

"What does the truth matter? Haven't we mothers all given our sons a taste for lies, lies which from the cradle upwards lull them, reassure them, send them to sleep: lies as soft and warm as a breast! "

I don't remember saying that your reasonings were wrong. I did say that that I didn't agree with the last two you stated(about tax and whatnot). Other than that they were all logical reasons which I did not dispute.

As for making a judgement from what you see in TER chat, that's your right.

What I did say was that you can come off as sounding condesending in the tone of some of your posts. Or perhaps aloof would be a better word. Thank you for proving my my point.

No double meaning meant...

/Zin

-- Modified on 11/27/2004 6:05:41 PM

They are reflecting their relationship with their parents.

Thank you for ending my fantasy.  Don't think I can make it to Chicago anytime soon.  Any girls out there like Bebe in LA?

And I really mean zero. I think physiologically I might be more like a man in some ways?