I almost hate to bring this up but I have to ask you guys. And gals.

My upbringing as a child taught me something bad would happen to me if I were to do certain "bad" things. Also that I wouldnt be prosperous and healthy.

I am new at this. No longer a hobby virgin by the way. (thank you wonderful ladies)

Here is the question... How many of you guys and gals lead happy, successful, prosperous and healthy lives?

I got over the guilt with the wife. Kinda have a feeling I deserve this. But, I jump real high when I hear anything light a lightening bolt strike. Still not sure the Big Guy in the sky is ok with this.

Any thoughts???

I can't see how donating money can be seen as a bad thing.  

I'm on pretty good terms with all things holey and holy, and I can report that you check out fine with the big guy upstairs.  Just reference me when the time comes.

Its not like this is prostitution or anything like that.  Relax.

I was raised on Catholic guilt.  I traded it in for guilt free atheistic beliefs.  I'm a lot happier this way, although I do fear missing all my friends that are going to hell.  Everything has a price...

Since there is no such thing as an almighty diety that just decided to create time and space and everything in it, then there are no repercussions for what you think except how you treat yourself.

You will not have "bad" things happen nor will you not be healthy or prosperous unless you allow your mind to make that happen. Your own mind is stronger than any diety.

b-

I'm afraid that most religions do indeed frown upon fornication and adultery, with or with out a cash aspect.
However, if you are concerned about the morality of the Hobby, there you are on stronger ground. If your wife isn't living up to her side of the fidelity deal (which should be - her man is so tired from sex with her, he can't find the time to look elsewhere), then a man will have to find release somewhere else. If you don't want, or can't, leave your wife, the hobby is the most moral option.
You could go to a bar and lie to some drunk girl, or meet a co-worker and start a real relationship with her, either way setting some poor girl up for heartbreak, and yourself up for trouble when this girl decides to call your home.
Or, you go to a provider, who expects from you one thing - $$$, and will give you EXACTLY what you want. It is probably the most honest relationship that a man and woman can have, no lies, no deceptions, just honest cash for sex! There are none of the emotional entanglements that can screw up your life. And, with an independant lady, like the high quality girls you will find here, you will get a lay that is a million times better than anything you'll find in a bar, and you don't have to worry about that disturbing "slavery" issue you sometimes find in AMP's and Strip clubs

Judaism is the only organized religion in the world (at least among Western religions) that openly acknowledges the enjoyment of sex.  Similarly, it does not make any formal statements for or against the hobby.  So for any single hobbyist (hobbying while married would be considered adultery), there is no sin taking place.

In fact, some important historic figures from Judaism were providers.  For example, Rahab from Jericho helped Joshua's army capture the city and establish themselves in the Promised Land.  And now, in the modern-day Israel, the hobby is 100% legal.

Read the last sentence and was taken back by it so I did an online search and it seems that in the final analysis it is.  Not trying to start a flame war, insult anyone, pass judgement or anything else but, it seems this is a subcategory of the profession.  I'm quite new here and to the hobby so would just like to know.

I grew up in a red light district of a navy town and the women in the profession were "the girl next door" for me so never thought of those in the profession in a negative way or looked down, etc.  Back then, whether they walked the street, worked the bar, had a madam or were independent they were all the same in terms of classification, i.e. prostitutes.

Seems there has been a realignment based on how services are offered but does it change the reality of the profession? Please bring me into the 21st century but, without throwing bricks, please.

that brought you to ask the question in the first place.

To think of God as a police officer up in the sky that will give you a ticket or bring about pain and suffering because you were “bad” is a very inaccurate picture of who God really is.

God is merciful and loving to us even when we are not loving to Him.

Forget about guilt. Guilt is over rated. Someone once said “I would sin like David, if I could repent like David” (who committed both adultery AND murder). You have the power to stop - if YOU really want to change. You may have to ask God to help you to change; it might be that only with His help, the kind of change in your marriage and in your life is possible.

Your relationship with your wife can be compared to your relationship with God. When you were married you Both swore to each other solemnly “in sickness and in health, in good times and bad . . .” it was supposed to be perpetual. But while your wife may not forgive you, God will. Just ask him. Tell him you are sorry, and really mean it. That is if you are sorry and mean it. And promise not to do it anymore – ask Him to help you.

Otherwise one thing you cannot do is simply justify it away – that is a lie. Acknowledge that you know it is wrong, and you choose to do it anyway. Some call this responsibility.

You have free will to choose; we all do.

We gave up a rib, she ate the apple, it's been fun ever since.

If God didn't want us to fuck, it would have been a pine tree.  Ever try to eat a pine cone, even a snake couldn't do that.



BTW, it was a one eyed snake.  That part got lost in translation.

I grew up in a christian church, however i can't really call myself a christian at all, but i still consider myself spiritual, but not tied to any form of dogma.  I do good things and i do bad things, but in general i try to treat all people the same way, with kindness and respect.  As far as attitudes of sex and love and the guilt associated with infidelity outside of monogamous relationships or even the practice of offering donations for companionship that may lead to more intimate encounters is just a product of the hardcore conservative religious beliefs started by this country's founders.  I mean seriously most of the original US english colonists were these uptight religious conservatives who were booted from their own countries for being so damn annoying and killing everyone elses sense of fun.

I think as long as we all treat each other like human beings with decency and respect, there really isnt anything wrong with it and you only feel as bad as you want to feel.

I don't fear for my immortal soul, if that's what you're asking. Jesus hung out with hookers, so he knows how good it is. It sounds like you've still got lingering guilt if you're worried about God and being smited. It also seems you might watch too many movies or read too literally in the Old Testament.

As far as my life, I'm happy, successful and prosperous. I have a great balance in my life between school, friends and this, so I really can't complain. My biggest drama is procrastinating writing papers (which I just finished writing tonight. YAY!) Otherwise, I'm a lot more sane and happy than some of the crazy chicas I've run into in L.A. who wrap themselves up in the sugar daddy chase and end up fucking their lives up when these guys see the bullshit smeared on the wall.

Katie

It's whatever 2 people agreed it was, not necessarily to wear each other out from too much sex.  But then, there's probably a lot that's never explicitly said about what a husband and wife have agreed to.  If a man agrees to never have sex with any other woman, no matter what, he's not a man of his word if he "hobbies."  The man does not "have" to find release anywhere else.  Celibacy is always an option.  But who knows?  Maybe cheating on an agreement isn't "wrong," anyway, depending on the circumstances.  I'm concerned about the morality of hobbying, too.  The ideal for me would probably be to have a girlfriend/wife but never agree to be monogamous in the first place, which begs the question: Is it polygamy or is it cheating on an agreement to be monogamous that is more damaging to a relationship?

comes from the book of Daniel.  Intentional?

The big guy as it were, in the sky does not care how you get your rocks off.

He/She/It cares how you care about others, the world your in and the god above.

Religion is just another form of control and the relinkqeshment, spell check here folks, of said control. IE Guilt and how to get out of it by paying off a man in a robe.

It's your life and your choices will all have a consequence.  

The sign of a profound man, is a man who can see the consequences of his actions before the cops show up.  LOL

now go and pray about it.
fishnets hugs and kisses
madeline