If you live in the reality (or illusion) that you're a perfect 10 or at least a 9... and someone rates you an 8, how do you honestly feel?

I'm not referring to "I've seen it all so it doesn't affect me anymore", I'm referring to the initial reaction when this kind of stuff really affected you, perhaps emotionally, at the time. ( And in the world of TER, we all know that a 7 has become the new 'average' score rather than a 5. )

Did it hurt your esteem to see an 8
... or did you still feel you're a 9/10 and 'project it outward' just blowing it off thinking he must simply be "fockin" blind?  
(that was an italian mobster accent BTW)

Long time ago, I witnessed an actual case where a girl was offended by a very solid "9" review when she wanted a 10. To make a long story short, she was so offended that she took revenge on the reviewer. A very beautiful lady IMO but she's not around here anymore. Don't be a dick asking me who cuz my lips are tighter than my untapped virgin ass.

Now I realize that was a rare case, but it got me  thinking... cuz we all have a certain alterego or image thinking that we're pretty unique, different, and attractive in our own way.

IMO, TER ratings have boiled down to 7 being average, 8 being acceptable or above average.... 9 being very pretty... and 10 being perfect. So there isn't much room for anything. Also, if one gives a bad rating to a girl less than 8, or worse, less than 7, the guy won't have much luck being welcomed by that agency again so it seems rare for someone who intends to stick around giving such low scores.

Another thing about looks is that, and I know some guys may disagree... but to me, 99% of the girls never get anything above a 9 on initial visit no matter how pretty... because there's this thing called inner beauty (or maybe just growing fonder and getting used to her) that really makes the girl prettier... closing that 1 point gap to a 10... or, on the flipside, makes her uglier if she's being a nasty bitch giving me attitude all the time, dropping her down a notch to an 8 or even a 7. Maybe it's just me but that's honestly how a lady appears to me in my two eyes.

To put a number on ME, I don't even like to think about it. I know for a fact that I was hot stuff in my younger days cuz civvy girls called me out of the blue left and right 'just to talk' when I'm not even much of a smooth-on-the-phone kinda guy. Of course, fast forward a decade or two  I'm pretty damn sure I'd be lucky if I was 8.0 now. lol  Yet it would hurt my esteem and pride, breaking down the illusion that I live in to hear less than a 9.

Bottom line is, putting myself in a women's shoes, I personally would not like being rated AT ALL.... cuz I think I'm a unique individual. Of course, this is the hobby and it's a review board so we're forced to give numbers.

Apparently, our choice of numbers has boiled down to only an 8, 9 or 10 if we want to stick around and not get bad-mouthed.

and that 7 in appearance coming from a man whose highest rating ever was a 7 is no slam on your appearance IMO.

I would also agree with you that you are probably an 8 in appearance, but that's a "real" IMO, not a TER overinflated 8 which any woman still breathing manages to receive most of the time. lol  Oh BTW you are not really my "type" as I prefer model thin spinners which certainly does not describe you, I do find you to be very attractive however, and "type" isn't everything.

I wish we could all live in the real world, I have no illusions (delusions) about my own appearance, I am 52 years old, at my age I'd be happy to be getting a 6. lol I am still able to pull thirty somethings and the ocassional twentysomething in the civvie world so I am not too worried yet. lol

You seem to have a rather realistic view of yourself and the world as well, I only wish more women could honestly say the same, the number of women that I could not honestly give a rating above 5 that whine about getting 7s just completely amazes me, don't these women own mirrors.

BTW that 7/10 review really was a great one, I may have to look you up the next time I am in town, so much for "type" lol

actually I was surprised to see 3 review score related threads too.

no MP and I didn't talk last night. we talked earlier toward noon but never about review scores. maybe our thoughts telepathically transmitted cuz I know  for sure that mp is always thinking about me. lol

anyway, last time I gave a really bad review,  as in something like 6 or 7 in looks and a whopping  2 in performance lol...
the girl ended up dripping out of the biz entirely.. I doubt it was solely a result of my review but these things impact a provider's business a lot more than we think... so I try to be fair rather than retaliatory when I run into a less than stellar girl.

beauty and the beast.... good one, lmafo

your photos, assuming accurate, are still very hot...
hot enough to put you on my favorites list  lol
and being self aware, honest  kinda does make you more attractive as a person.

 I guess there's occasionally an exception to the "preferred type"

And I'm not even Asian.  Does that make me non-PC?
No, really, it's inicky and I just couldn't help myself.  
Anyway, the numerical rankings seem to be a big deal this morning.  Did you talk to MP last  night,too?
OK, one more thought,  and it's not a new one.  Given that the numbers are and always will be subjective,  no one should be upset when they don't conform to your wishes and/or experience with the girl.  It's the Juicy Details that are a better guideline to how hot she is, and how she does what she does.  Also (and not new either), who's the reviewer and how credible is he?
As for someone being nasty, I've never encountered it.  I have recently come across a  provider who just didn't have a good way of connecting and, to me, is just not cut out for the business.  But there had been reviews that should have warned me, so I didn't review her myself.
As for my looks, let's just say I've remarked to several gals as we watched ourselves in the mirror that it "looks like a re-make of Beauty and The Beast."  
Hint:  I was not playing the role of Beauty.

As a reviewer I hate the numbers. See the link below for why as I am not getting into it.

No, I am not afraid to issue a score less the 7, not in the least, if a lady earned it. A lady can't intimidate me in the leased. What could she do to me?

Turn me into LE? Only if she wants to turn herself in. Maybe out me? Already done. Black list me? I have plenty of ladies the will vouch for me and see me. Plus I have anther source for sex other then the hobby so no big deal even if that is not true.

Now having said that I too would hate to be rated as I am a solid 3 in looks on a good day. Things like looks are so subjective. I think I am a 3 but my wife thinks I am attractive enough to marry and would likely give me a 7. I know there is some ladies that would give me a 1, which kind of bothers me. So which am I? Truth be told all of the above. It is why I wish they would replace it with, "Are the photos currant and accurate? Yes/No.) Everyone has there own tastes.

It's not that one is afraid, it's to be minimally insulting... especially when the girl did her best and was very kind. Now if the girl was a complete ugly biyatch then it's a different story.

As for outing you, who's the kind lady (general sense) that did such a thing, and to whom were you outted to? I can't imagine why anyone would want to do that to you.

Score of a 3.... LOL That's a pretty low number to give to oneself but as long as your wife thinks you're hot enough to marry then it's all good. Do you find that it's easier to get along with other providers on a civvy level when one is already 'taken'...

silence speaks volumes.

Yeah this happens more than we think.  I guess it shows that a girl who really thinks she's a 9/10, not only will be offended by an 8... but may take revenge.

I didn't expect any providers to respond to this actually. Because if a 10 girl did reply, it implies that she thinks she's a perfect 10 hot stuff and she might not want to appear "cocky"... although if a girl with mostly 10s claimed that she's a 10, then it's nothing more than telling the truth.  Additionally, if she did admit to being disappointed by an 8... well same reason applies.

However, silence speaks volumes. Also, from the number of similar cases such as yours, I think it says a lot.

Saw a girl a few years back who was really good looking and everyone was rating her a 9 or 10 in the looks department and performance ratings were very high as well. I showed up, and like I said, I know a 9 or 10 when I see one and she wasn't it. She emailed me after I posted my review wanting to know why I didn't rate her a 9 or 10 which I thought was not only rude but quite vain on her part. Anyway, tried to use her as a reference once and she claimed not to have ever seen me. I suppose that was her way of getting even with me.

That was in no way, shape, or form at 10, or close to it. I gave her a great review, and was generous, even by newbie standards, as to her physical appearance. She got pissed that I didn't give her a 10, and she was maybe a 7 on a good day, three years earlier, pre Morton Steak house dinners with mashed potatoes with clients.

Since then, I've met some 9's, a few 10's, and mostly find that the really great looking ones think their good looks will allow them to basically lay there. It is pretty awesome though when you get those rare dates when the great looks, killer bod, and awesome performance align just right.

It's kind of funny, one of the ladies I see most often these days, took some pictures of her the last time she was over. Totally informal, wasn't planning on taking them, had a new camera basically. When I saw her pictures on it thought, wow, she is not that hot really, but man, is she a great lay. Ad to that the fact she is fun to be with, and not a bullshitter means inner beauty I guess, so even though she might be 7 for you, she is a 10 for me.

Still, just so you know, since that Vegas review, I am way more honest in my reviews, and have not seen any 10's lately

When I am reviewing I am not worried about insulting the lady as she is also a business and reviews even insulting ones are part of business. Plus, I only review ladies that say it is OK or I feel need to warn people about. I don't pull punches or try to gain favor with my reviews. I just state the truth good or bad as I see it.

"As for outing you, who's the kind lady (general sense) that did such a thing, and to whom were you outted to?"

My former ATF and my cousin.

She got busted. Cops threatened to take her kid away and send her to jail if she didn't let them search her phone that had my real information on it and confess. The kid was taken away and she went to jail anyway. We were and still are good friends

My cousin was a cop and involved in the investigation. He told my father, my brother, his wife , my wife and anyone else that would listen. Doing so cost him his job as it interfered with an ongoing investigation into that list and my father and my wife made a huge deal about it. Add it to the fact that many of my friends are cops, so it circulated among them as well as I was outed. Nothing provable, but still it is out there.

Moral of the story, STFU!!!! Do not speak to cops as it does you no good to do so no matter what they claim.  Cops lie. Know your rights and do not submit to warrant less searches that will out your friends. Don't be as stupid as my friend.

I am not mad at my former ATF as she did what she did only under duress. I would do anything to protect my wife and son. We are still close friends. She is now retired from the hobby. She will begetting her kid back in a few weeks.

I am not a fan of my cousin but it cost him more then it did me when he outed me.

"Do you find that it's easier to get along with other providers on a civvy level when one is already 'taken'..."

Yes, as I am "taken" by my wife, the provider knows I am not looking to find a girl friend or anything. She knows I am safe.Plus as my wife and I have a somewhat open marriage I do not hide things and my wife even has joined me more then a few times for sessions. Heck, my wife and my former ATF are best friends.

Ive had girls apply to me that were IMHO a 2 and thought they were perfect and figured they should be at a rate of $500/hour and up. This is not the industry for a girl to be thin skinned. Whats the saying? "Show me a beautiful woman and I'll show you a guy whos tired of fucking her" One guy may think Angelina Jolie is a 10 another guy will think shes a 1. Not every guy in the world is going to think every girl is gorgeous. Just my .02