no way in hell providers will ever consider dating a guy if they really liked him.  I mean women are emotionless loveless creatures who never need love or be pampered,  right?  

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how i keep my 1,750.00 apt, and the lifestyle i have, which well any escort or dancer will tell you you get accustomed to a certain lifestyle...........................
 I have had bf in past but if i am gonna not have the phone on or have time and energy for my regulars when they call. Whom like i have heard others say , they are my bread and butter.... So if i am gonna be too tired cuz i am spending my energy on a bf. and stuff. i will lose my apt, !
 For me between {a air brush tan and regular tan same time can be 95 bucks }
To get belly strip, brazilian , full face {yes italian women need thier chins done too omg} plus tip the lady and eye brows, and arms I forget but last time i got my waxings done including tip it was 100. Then i went for a regular tan and airbrush tan plus a tip 95.  
 I recently spent alot of time with some one. Whom was a massage client first time we met. For 160. Then he slept over 2 times or so and we spent time together, and i fell behind and got burnt out.  
For me its different i have fibromyalgia and a few mental problems so I have to keep things AS SIMPLE and easy as possible. I get very tired from too many guys around. If I were to ever have a bf hed either have to help me with the rent or be ok with me not ever having sex with him. I dont have enough energy mentally or physically to do both. Again most my good paying clients and regulars i am close too. I think the only reason they help me so much is because we clique and hit it off so well. I have a regular coming today to give me a pre pay for aday long hang out on 17th. I may have him stay over if he wants. He is coming to bail me out and give me a check for a gran made out to my landlord. We arent doing the appt today, but i made mistake of wasting alot of energy with a guy i met from a 160 dollar massage who then didnt wanna throw me any types of help after that and i just dont have a life where I can handle a boyfriend and also keep the pace with my expensive living and things. I get great reviews and charge alot, But if i stop taking care myself and cant afford to wax, tan, or have enough time and money to make it via cab to counseling twice a week. I just have a life that doesnt include a boyfriend in it, I have quite to be with guys before but one of them was a biker who had a house for me to move into with him, so it was easy for me to stop to be with him,  
If i stopped escorting and got a normal job i d have to live in a rooming house!
Just last week i went to my psychiatrist one day it was 50 there and back by cab, then psychiatrist next day 50 there and back cab,.  
I just dont have enough energy to have a bf in free time, I actually am exhausted after my dealings with the clients, and definetly hit it off the regulars enough where i am also more than satisfied after and wouldnt ever wanna even look at va dick for several days after they leave!
 I am going to see a hot guy this week  who is sexy nice, and gave me 900 once for a little over an hour session, mostly bj, ... He was cute and nice and i d definetly hang out with him in real life. I d probly even move in with him, I dont see point in running myself into the ground to try and have penis in my face 24/7. I already have an outcall tonight, a guy coming to drop off my pre pay for our day /night whatever next week, then the other one this week. I dont have regulars that arent cute and good in bed either. If I dont like a client or we dont clique they usually dont come back.  
 I always have like older guys and i especially get horny when some one is making my life easy for me. Having a 1750 apt on the water. spending most my time being relaxed and enjoying things i like having the free time to do. I like having alot extra time to excercize and cook and take good care myself and get enough sleep and stuff, and make sure i eat right, for me i have a goal and its to pay off the student loans , i was a troubled kid and never made it to cosmetology licensure, i graduated though, after 6 years your schooling is devalid and your not able to go for the state boards. So here I am at age 33. A 16 grand student loan, no savings acoount, and hoping to fix my credit and attend lynn community college in next few years to do vet tech course.  
      I met guys i like but i personally dont have much extra energy left after working. I get into my appts with the really good paying ones and thats why they pay alot cuz we have a blast. If all a sudden I am havn sex all night with a bf then the regular with the 1,300 to spend shows awaiting a day of havn anal several times through out day hours of massage long bj, Its alot of money but i cant swing havn a bf too and swing gettn the donations i do from certain guys, They expect a certain performance/energy level. i cant produce after also being physical with a bf during week.  
 If i met a guy and he wanted to hang out all time I d end up behind and then remeber this is a time to get my life together and work on myself, I also like not being stressed out over bills food money, Every time i start or have started seein a client for free, i end up tired and behind with bills and angry with myself for even doing that, I have gotten into seein clients before not just for business it always end with me being pissed i am now mentally exhausted and also behind, this past week i saw 3 people and made no 4 people and made 2,230 got atop that 125 in chinese food too. {i always count the bonuses tossed in thier }  
   BUT in midst of all that prosperity one appt was entire day and i was so tired after , no way i woulda felt like dealing with a guy in  my face i was tired. and all 4 were nice and i had good time too and really had a hard orgasm with one the guys who is a slave to me, we meet alot and he is also good lookin, So then there are over 25 prank or time wasters i have blocked now. just from one week, I make alot money but i also am exhausted from weeding out the time wasters and all the texting ect ect. For me havn a bf gets in the way and just isnt a good things for me, ... Theyd have to be able to be ok with what i do and pay the rent and bills and help me with the student loans and the new schools tuition, If they wanna get in my way and consume my energy,m I d have to have them be capable of still keeping my goals in tact, No guy is worht me stomping on my goals and things i am working for. So if i was seeing a client then he stopped being supportive and was ruining the gameplanb i d definetly end it, and fast, If he was contributijng to the game plan and helping me reach me goals great, if not? i have plenty a good orgasms with the clients, and i have more than enough friends, So i am not in need of his freindship or sex, . I actually still know my friends home phone numbers i have had since i was 5 years old! and still call to say hi to them!
 And all my friends i grew up with like myself are busy working and buying property and taking care themselves, people that feel the need to contantly be hangn around with thier friends, thats great but for me in free time i am wanting quiet and rather not have constant socializing, . i liek to balance all the socializing out with also have some time to relax my brain,  
 i have had alot of boyfriends before but dating some one you met doing this is always frustrating,

I mean, look at ADJ,  Gambler,  AsianMan getting all the ladies.  

...about OTC time, dating, etc.  

100% agree with you that you got some mental problems..

So Angel, I'm so sorry for how life treats you sometimes...when you are obviously so giving.... I know just what you mean about those massage guys who don't think to tip if they cross over your old boundaries & especially your time. It can be hard to balance assertive-ness with warmth & kindness....  
Also I hope you fibro eases up -that must be hell- your in my healing thoughts-
One thing you said I couldn't help but smile- older guys that care (take care of u) get you horny.....
To that I say -HELL yeah! Something about a man reaching in that wallet & saying.....
"don't worry baby your rent is paid"....
well there are few things that can make my panties that wet!!"
 I never really thought of myself as materialistic..... But hey nothing gets me hotter ~like being a kept woman (spoiled)
Chin up Angel stay with your boundaries they work for you....oh & btw I've seen your pictures I'm sure your just as beautiful even if you didn't tan or wax!  
Luvin life,
~Mindy

Spending time with bf translates to loss of income.  Either bf has to support or she must spend less time with bf. Those are two turn offs compared  civvy girls who don't suck dick for a living.  No career?  another turn off.  No degree?  yet another turn off. Runaway from family?  Something ain't right,  yet another turn off preventing me from taking her too seriously.    

most honest and comprehensible response to this type of question I have ever seen... and as you say, there have been many of these type questions.

well there no big turn on of hangin with a guy then realizing you missed three appts  by wasting energy on his ass. and now the cable and electric is getting shut off. thats not exactly the beginiings to a romantic day for me any how.

What's this "maybe" shit? Of course we are. lmao

but it really helps to be only half Asian, preferably like me, Italian from the waist down and Asian from the waist up. lol

They don't have REAL lives, and if you must know they simply hang upside down in the closet like a bat in between appointments.


Isn't it funny how one person can ask this very same question and get a real answer and the next day someone like the OP will ask it and get nothing but ridicule? I think maybe the first respondent sets the tone. If the first response is a serious one the rest of the thread tends to stay that way, if the first response busts his balls, the rest of us tend to pile on.

I guess the secret to asking this type of question is to not ask it if Inicky, CPA, Jack, you, me, ADJ et al are around to answer it.

Asian from the neck up.  
Italian at heart.
French in my lips.  
And African from the waist down.  
Oh the rest is pure a-shole. Lol.

I think ADJ is halfy too.  I'm guessing he's Asian from the waist down as well. LMAO

When dating a civvie guy, how do you reconcile the feelings that must arise if and when he makes a disparaging remark about hookers, not knowing of course that he is unwittingly dating one?

There is a certain benefit in dating someone where you can be 100% open and honest about who you are and what you do. Of course I will concede that many hobbyists deep down don't respect the ladies they see or even themselves for seeing them in the first place, but those guys are too fucked up for you to ever be dating on of them in the first place.

I did the same but it didn't set a trend. Seems maybe inicky has more weight on trend setting lol

there is a huge stigma... I think a lot of people - all of us- have certain prejudices about this world, even if we participate in it. We internalize society's misguided take on it, and project that onto each other. "All guys who do this are lonely, ugly, cheating, etc.", "All ladies who do this are messed up, had bad childhoods, acting out sexually, scammers,  etc." And let's face it- a lot of times people fit the stereotypes. But obviously this isn't always the case- as a matter of fact ive never met the male stereotype here, and relatively few women I've met fit the female stereotype.  

I would I have and will again ,. Date clients, Is it good? not always but i have a history of stormy relationships and i doubt thats gonna end anytime soon. one of the bonuses to bein CRAZY again,... But yes i have dated many , many clients, and yes all them were a little nutz too so. .... lol. But if you have feelings for some one you should see whwrre it goes and give it a try, thats how i feel. Not sayin its gonna be smooth sailing, but why not? i know i have made attempted to date guys i met doing this. One is dead, i was his surprise when he got released from walpole, He got shot to death by the police two summers ago,. I was supposed to be his like surprise after he got outta a 8 or nine year stint in walpole. We ended up dating few years off n on after. three others i met doing this i dated, are in federal prisons, One was with the guy that got shot he lived and is in prison. He took me to his dads for christmas, and snow tubing at gunstock, and family stuff, Then the other two i also met they had called my ads then zi dated them , and then , i recently tried to date one again and again he was yet another jail bird, and again it didnt work out, I tend to like criminals for some weird reason? Maybe cuz they are crazy like me. not sure.......................

This is why I'm a great fan of being honest from the start. Once the guy's earned her trust and likes her for her, it will be more painful and complicated to deal with his not being able to handle her past. He'll feel cheated and lied to whether he has the right to feel that way or not. You're starting your relationship on shaky grounds and that's a recipe for failure.

While I do agree you have to work at it. I disagree that you have to "work hard on yourself" to be able to date a provider, from the male perspective at least. I believe that if you have to "work on yourself" you are fighting an uphill battle. I believe you either accept her for what who she is, or you don't. I don't think a man can successfully "work on that"

Some guys as you both have said have been brought up to look down on "hookers" and I think if a man has that mindset you aren't going to change him. No matter how hard he tries to bury those thoughts they are going to come to the surface at some time. and the first time there is a fight, or the tenth, it going to rear it's ugly head as in "well you were just a whore when I met you" or something hurtful like that.

Some of us don't think that way, and I think it's one of the reason I have had so many successful LTR's with providers, I don't look down on "hookers" I might be politically incorrect, but deep down I treat women who do this for a living no different than I would treat any other woman. OTOH, I have adult ADD and am probably lousy "long term" material, but I am living proof that not all clients look down on the women they see, and it's not something I ever had to "work on"

aside from that I agree with most of the rest of your post and I further agree that a hooker/john or for the PC folk here a provider/client relationship certainly has a unique set of challenges.

may have a point that some men can't or won't change, but I disagree that all men who were raised to look down on "hookers" can't think differently. One of the couples I mentioned has a gent like that- raised in a very traditional and well-to-do Latin family.  

If you have to "work" on that once you are in a relationship, I believe that relationship is already doomed.

This is the first thing that comes to mind when thinking of dating a client. The second is his thinking that it was his skill, strength, and brains that brought me to the next path in my life - and not my own; thus, building on the wrong foundation. If, however, I meet him outside of this because of similar interests and levels of success in other areas, I, in his mind, have gotten myself there - I can then tell him what I did in the past, what good I got out of it, why I changed direction, and how I became what I've become that day. (Theoretically speaking.)

No shortage of those dudes here either.  

As long as your (or GG's) treatment of the librarian is considered desirable by the librarian. If one's treatment of the librarian is disrespectful, well then, there you have it.  

LoL, what if you met her working at a hospital or court room? Would you respect the physician or lawyer, (or judge,) as much as you respect the hooker?

I know the answer, but it's not a quick one - and it seems the more words I type, the more room there is for confusion, so I'm going to mull over how I'll communicate this one. Stay tuned... hopefully the response won't get buried in a bunch of other responses lol.

I think it's kind of an age/life stage thing. All of us go through periods of needing risk and danger in our lives. For some of us that takes form in the partners we choose. For some, the sports we play. I think many people come here to fulfil that need.

They've done it, but there was always this nagging feeling eating away at them that they were leaving thousands of dollars on the table by going OTC with someone who used to be a regular source of income.

but at least you got "coupons" lol

I will be eagerly waiting to see that new poster here, Mr. "anothercheatingjohn" lol

They, in fact, need to be saved in some instances. From loneliness or the feeling of lack of purpose.

Shouldn't be allowed anywhere near them, or charged triple.  Providers have it tough enough already with the social stigma of the profession, limited SO possibilities, etc. that they shouldn't have to put up with jerks that don't respect them for P4P or otherwise.
Providers, like any woman, have my respect by default until they individually prove to me to be unworthy of that respect.  Of course, some have done exactly that, but there are others that I respect even a lot more after meeting them and getting to know them a bit.  There are some that I'd like to be both a client and a friend too, but that's often difficult.  There's one that I've succeeded in spanning that gap with, though, and we have a very good, if unusual, relationship.  She calls it a boyfriend that helps pay the bills.

and fawning over her like a lovesick puppy dog.

I give the women here, (and elsewhere) enough respect to realize that they aren't made of glass, and they are more than tough enough to handle the (mainly) good natured crap I give them.

courtesy is given freely and upfront from me... man, woman, whatever. Respect however, is earned - man, woman, lawyer, physician, hooker, whatever. I will respect the individual and not the trappings of their position.

they almost always use money as a weapon, are usually quite manipulative, and often use their "help" as a way to insinuate themselves into a woman's life.

Captain save a ho's don't want to be a "real" relationship with a hooker, they want to own here, and will be the very first ones to tell her "remember what I did for you?" the moment she starts acting "uppity"

These are typically the guys who come on here whining about how badly some hooker treated them after he "gave his heart" to her, and then goes on about all the gifts, loans etc he gave her, only for her to turn her back on him. IMO these guys get exactly what they deserve.

left for the client they fell in love with and married had careers (in one case two of them) that they held while they were providers. They both continued those careers after quitting this. Yes- it's so important to know who you are and what you want out of a relationship (heck- out of life in general!) before you even meet someone.

One is the same reason some men hire dominatrices. They want their authority challenged. Challenge being the key word here. A guy who always does those things might be super sweet, but there's nothing exciting about him. The trick in this case is to find someone like that who also has something else about him that is exciting. Like a career as a race car driver or archaeologist.  

The best women are expert at creating an alluring, enticing, sexually provocative atmosphere, meant to overwhelm the client's senses and bring them coming back for more. Their attire (or lack thereof), makeup, smell, attitude and demeanor are all calculated measures meant to maximize their earning potential. Most of us realize this, thoroughly enjoy the session, and know full well the illusion vanishes once we walk out the door. What happens when you date a client in real life? Do you drop the make-believe world of escort/client and interact in a purely civilian capacity? Does the client become disillusioned with the "real" you?

I will usually start with a level of respect to anyone as a simple matter of protocol.  

You are the guy constantly wondering why women prefer the "bad boys" instead of the saps, not me.

A person with intelligence might wonder what HE is doing wrong instead of blaming the world for being the way it is. This is what you and Taylor have in common. You want the world to become the way YOU want it, and don't accept certain things for the way they are. As the old saying goes, "don't hate the player, hate the game"

I know life is played by certain rules, whether that be in business, love, or even P4P, Rather than beat my head against the wall like you constantly do, I adapt my game to follow the rules and to end up getting the most out of said game. Before you are too quick to judge which one of us is right and which one of us is wrong, ask yourself, "who is having the most fun here?" Once you figure out that guys like me are having a blast while guys like you are full of angst, only then grasshopper will you start to learn.lol

I am sure you have noticed in life that guys like you are always the "friend" while guys like me are the ones that women fall in love with. You know this is true, the only question is "What are you going to do about it?"

your post doesn't make much sense. I'm assuming the women on this board are for the most part independent and voluntarily entered the P4P industry to make money. Social stigma and limited SO opportunities are the benefit of the bargain they made when they chose this path. As for your comment that assholes who don't respect them shouldn't be allowed anywhere near them, don't you find that to be somewhat condescending and a tad bit disrespectful yourself? I don't know who you're seeing, but the women I've had the pleasure of meeting are very savvy business women, and are in no way shrinking violets. If someone were to get out of line with them, or otherwise act disrespectful, that would definitely be the last time they got together.

Haven't you found in civvie relationships that you meet a woman, she's dressed great, looks great, and is in her best form? And you date a few times and it's the same or better? And then, as you become comfortable with each other, you see her without the nice clothes, without the makeup, and eventually see the real person with all of her good and bad points

He seems to think these women are all fragile flowers made of glass that will break if not handled with the utmost care.

Now don't get me wrong, nobody deserves to be abused, but as you pointed out, these women are perfectly capable of taking care of themselves in that regard and they certainly don't need a bunch of white knights or Capt's save a ho, to protect them.

YOU were the one just a few minutes ago who was openly wondering why women choose "bad boys" over saps like you, Sarah tried to give you some insight, as did I, but apparently none of it sunk in, so once again I will allow you to wallow in your cluelessness.

I am here because I prefer women about thirty years younger than myself, AND I like to see four or five different ones every week. I am NOT here because I can't get laid, or because I am "afraid" of getting hurt. Quite the contrary, IMO it would be very unfair of me to be seducing women who wanted "more" getting in their pants and moving on to the next one. THAT would be disrespectful, not to mention an awful lot of work. It's a lot easier on both me and the women involved to simply pay women who aren't looking for anything more than a few bucks and a good time than taking advantage of women who might end up falling in love with a whore mongering pig like me.

If you don't want to be thought of as a clueless fool, don't post like one. Or alternatively, you could simply stick to the Newbie board where even I will be nice to you, no matter how stupid your questions are.

Is this just a game you're playing, or are you really upset with the posts that Nicky, GaG, DA, etc. make? I've been watching this for a while and it doesn't make sense. You do realize this is a fuck board, and these guys are just fuckin with you, right?

We should ask the Yankees if they ever considered making a touchdown.

Once he PM'd me and wailed to me, "You are ruining my board experience."
Another time he lied about having learned I had ED problems, hoping I'd get upset and break some rule or other so he could complain to Admin.
The guy is a certifiable tool.

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Guess he doesn't respect you either.

With someone who's working 40 hours a week?  

But you're unfortunately just stupid.

but somehow it's everybody else that's wrong.

If one person calls you stupid, you might be stupid or they might just be a jerk, but when EVERYBODY calls you stupid.......

Yep...I recall vividly your ramblings trying to support ole Ms. TER January...both of her personalities.

Ass kisser?

Those that have a semblance of self-respect embrace their stupidity and use it to some advantage.

Yes, another clueless JohnnyBoy who has convinced himself he has found a girlfriend. He and Turdwell should get along just fine, you know washing each others hair, doing each others nails and commiserating about how mean we are to them on TER. lmao

I'd like to think that I respect the person as I know them until give reason to do otherwise.  Not really certain what profession has to do with it.  I'm not one who will automatically respect you because of your profession, nor however would I disrespect you because of it.

You don't need any help with that  LOL

The economics of dating are often much worse than P4P, but a lot of times the sex is even better. Not always, but sometimes.

Sometimes, even in P4P two people just end up liking each other. The problem is a lot of delusional men read a lot more into a situation than there really is, and the "relationship" over and above him paying her of course, is all in his head.

Did it say that you swallow? Or just that you are great at kissing ass?

You hold doors open, bring flowers, get the towels...and so on.

Oh, I forgot.  No one cares.

... for some. I don't think it's always as 'easy' as that may sound ... for some.  

Did you find out on the net about my penis size?  Please tell...I hope it's entertaining  LOL

Is this like the DaVinci Code?
 

Posted By: TaylorSteele

... for some. I don't think it's always as 'easy' as that may sound ... for some.  
   
 I guess for those who actually hold the key to 'cracking this code', followed with the 'want', the 'need' and the 'ability' of cracking this code, I guess I'll just chalk it up to the truly 'meant to be' scenario then .... just as it sounds.  
   
 For one, it seems like an extremely complex innermost code paired with a very rare key that no matter how grand it may appear and/or appeal to open from the outside, it may just not quite fit right on the inside ... for some.  
   
 Maybe some things aren't supposed to be figured out, no matter what key you hold or how simple or complex that code really is.  
   
 Interesting thread. Good points Miss GFE

so he came back with a blitz of brainless posts to catch Pimpy and Fungus.  I think you'll agree he's doing rather well in that regard.

I now see Pimples post and I simply won't read anymore of that enigmatic drivel.  

but as much as I hate to admit it, Pimples now has a huge lead, but we're barely past the quarter pole, so I am not worried about any of these front runners just yet.

How much you like being called "Court" by our resident Captain-Save-a-Ho?

I for one am not sure where I stand on the whole 'cracking of this code', but having been approached here with this very personal topic (more than once) and not understanding the 'key' myself...wasn't sure what else to chalk it up to.  

WTF, that's pretty much common knowledge! GO BLACKHAWKS!!!

Turdy OTOH if he weren't here for our entertainment I dare say that we would have had to create someone just like him. Every board NEEDS a piñata, and Turdy fits that role quite nicely.

I doubt anyone has noticed, but I almost never respond to Pimples any more, but with Turdy it's just so much fun to push his buttons and watch him melt down, just like that "pretty lady" of his. lol

... Ho-Save-a-Ho? I LOVE HoHos. You should see how one eats these things. There is a special method ya know. It's all in the pace.

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He just got his most recent "favorable" review...maybe they lent him a key for something?

But.......'entourage guys'????? Care to explain. New news to me.

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So I didn't want to put it up here.  But yeah...that is the same one.

Rod didn't know.  But then Rod doesn't know much...so I guess that he's the outlier.

You know you really need to take off those training wheels if you ever expect him to be able to take care of himself someday. After all, you aren't getting any younger and you won't always be around to protect him. It might be time to finally cut that cord before it strangles him.

no one is getting any younger. Did I miss a new serum on the market or something?

I said,  I preferably don't wish to start a family with a girl who is fucking other guys and sucking their dick while I'm watching the kids. she'd have to retire if she wants to get married otherwise I'm gonna be hobbying too,  fucking other girls,  and not treat the relationship all that seriously. lol

The economics ARE worse in dating. Especially if the man takes a woman for cocktails-- moderate drinking; he'd prefer a beer-- then to a show, which he doesn't really want to see but she does, THEN to dinner where she's impressed with the swank restaurant, but he's staring at the right-hand side of the menu, AND FINALLY a goodnight kiss that he wants to go further, and if it does, it's okay. Expensive mediocrity.

Not me of course, I couldn't possibly be more immature than I already am.

I just thought it would be rather cute if you were here like a mother bear to protect her cub. Oh well, our loss.

With all that talent, and that uncanny ability to take it up a notch and be absolutely dominant when the chips are down, I'm always afraid of complacency sneaking up on them. Can't believe it would ever happen with Toews around, and I've never seen a team that responds as well as they do when their backs are up against the wall, but I'm just saying.....

Maybe Michael Jackson is your idol?

Using the money as a weapon-
How precisely you put it. Dead on.

You go for dinner with some dude who tells you he's rich (who knows...unless you've got access to his personals you wouldn't know if he has anything).  Then he presumably offers you a car, condo and shit.  Why would he make that offer out of right field?  I'm sure there's more to the story...I hope  LOL

Well being disrespectful of providers specifically and women in general is certainly that attitude that a lot of males on this board seem to not only have, but to be proud of.  I don't take it as a joke and don't think that it is meant as a joke.  Maybe I'm way out of line, but I don't like seeing anyone disrespected that hasn't earned that disrespect.  Not so long ago, being disrespectful to people used to go a good ways towards getting you into a world of hurt in RL.  Now, being generally disrespectful of people isn't going to get you shot, but it divides you into those who have manners (gentlemen) and those who don't (use your own term here).  Simple things, manners, but it differentiates people.  It applies in RL or in cyberlife.  Lump yourself into whichever pile you want.

Hooker, Physician, Lawyer...  

I wouldn't mind doing so with a provider, I mean let's be Frank (or Bill, or George, damn I'm funny) but seriously I'm a hobbyist, the very last person I'm ever going to pass judgement on is a woman who has facilitated me from not having to settle for some broad just to get laid. Honestly, I really think women in the provider profession exhibit great skills for being a potential mate, for me anyway, compassion, confidence, drive, independence, tenacity, good judge of character, forgiving and the ability to look past the outer layer because I am not now nor have I ever been an attractive man (and I'm completely ok with that fact, in order for there to be attractive people there must be less attractive people, it's simply the law of average. If everyone were beautiful then no one would be).

Pretty interesting brand marketing though.  

I'll just refer to the urban dict research ... It fits.

I got the real one ... Looked like this guy's...

How do you know if the compassion, confidence, drive, independence, tenacity, judge of character, forgiving nature and all that are real? I'd guess that compassion is faked often, and that perceived confidence is often a front. Same with confidence, etc.

Perhaps it's just my perception. I would think that a provider would have to posses at least most of those qualities, but you are absolutely right, I don't know that for sure.

So they don't have to try and be any judge of character.

Except instead of a ring, they'd like a fat wad... Of cash. Lol.

coupon worthy?

NY board. Funny, is all I can say. But he's an alias, and you know how that goes unfortunately.

did you just say the word 'cute'? Ok it just got weird in here. As someone once said to me, I think I actually 'heard' you saying that lol

a steal for the guy.

The woman might "agree" to not see any other men, but we all know better than that, except for the dumb fuck control freak who is paying her of course.

The guys that enter these types of arrangements are almost always married and with a thousand distractions in their lives, the SB might only spend ten hours a week with her SD and the rest of the time she can be supporting her "real" boyfriend who knows all about it. I've seen it more than a few times. A lot of these "kept women" also moonlight as escorts, many of them work for agencies as UTR escorts so their pics aren't plastered all over the internet.

Men lie and cheat, and so do women. Neither sex has a monopoly on bad behavior

and it's not like you haven't done it before, although I will admit it's been a while. lol

Two were always in my business and wanted me available whenever they called. I was over at one guys' house every night (he was divorced).  

So EC isn't really coming back for me?

It's good to be humbled,  I guess it's a moot point though as I have absolutely no intention of getting back in a relationship, period.

Seriously?? "I tend to like criminals?"  

for considerably more money, and they too regretted it almost immediately and yes one of the guys became a stalker after she left him.

I think for this type of arrangement to work, either there has to be some type of feeling by the woman for the guy, (not necessarily love, but something) OR she has to have a lot of freedom or that nice townhouse or penthouse apartment quickly becomes a "gilded cage" and life with some control freak can become a nightmare.

I really don't know how some girls find a way to balance having a BF and working in the hobby. It just seems that something would have to "give" if you tried to be all things to all people.

And vice versa: the doors eventually aren't opened, the seat isn't pulled out at the dinner table, the seat isn't put down in the bathroom, there aren't anymore flowers (unless something's up...), tongue kissing disappears, they scratch their arses right in front of you...  

All my time spent away from my family is spent making money.

The practical reality is the guy typically wants a nonpro (younger, more apt to control, in dire financial straits) but it's the pros who are answering the ads.

own, but I wouldn't personally classify him as a 'cub', at least not in my eyes. Plus I think it's obvious, a woman like me has no time nor the patience for 'cubs' in this world. However, who's to say my local boytoy 'cub' didn't have me propped up on my kitchen counter last night probably as you were writing this post lol.  

OPs question is clearly asking providers

you hangn with sterling too? dam the ol guys really got beef w the uncle bennie boys these days,

where you say "those that have a semplance of self respect embrace thier stupidity and use it to some advantage."  
 Thats very smart.
 Here is another similiar quote i saved .  
                   "I dont sing songs about how big and strong I am . I was in the army for 6 years and i know how perfectly strong I am ............So instead of singing about that , I sing about my weakness"  -James Blunt

and they run around tryin the games on ladieas one after the other. rather than yes like you said its cheaper and easier to jkust go see 5 dam hookers than tryin all the games for freebies, to be cheap. like so many do and you can tell when they are doing it, Like we never had any jack asses before them try .

awww. thats so cute. he did that? i think thats kinda cute.. hey man your ruining my board expeience. thats adorable.  
 i know you guys think is funny, my pm experience was i was mentioning never getting dinner date requests and he tried to make me feel better and pmed me hi angel i would book a dinner date your a beautiful woman, BUT i am black.  
 He mentioned, But i think he was nice to be sweet and pm me like that....

I dont have a scholarly hours and hours of conversation for a client, Most my stories are gonna either be about singing in bands or crazy thing i did growing up, i dont have this like pre acted out story about my debutant life and my degree from havaford, i went to school for a trade, after taking an equivelency exam, I onlky ended up in a 2 grand a month ocean front apt cuz i can make people laugh and fuck good.! go figure.
 I know if you only have war stories and craziness when the fucking stops , and the thai shiatsu, you gotta do a discounted rate for social time, like me, xo

thats exactly the attitude that end up attracting relationships oddly enough, at least with me when i am sick of men and wanna be alone, and purposely try and avoid em, in civvie life. I dress up for clients but not in free time i like dress like sporty dike lady. when not meetin clients.  
 But when your avoiding meeting some one it always is when you do. At least for me.

treated me bad.I have dated many many scary bad boys, with bad reputation , and never had any of them mistreat me, They always tried to do things nice with me, much nicer than any clients ever have  for sure, like I said the one that got shotI had met his mum a few times, and the one that was with him had taken me to his families for holidays and let me drive his truck and took me to do fun family trip type stuff. I would stay at both thier houses for weeks sometimes hangin with them actin like kids eatn junk food and just hangn out watchn movies and just being together for days n days and stuff. Just laughing and havn fun, And he helped me out alot too. so. No they had thier crosses to carry as the catholics sayin goes but never abuse or mistreat or disrespect me or any other women . If they ever did anything nutz it never included any women, being part of it . or knowing about it. that instance was on the news so i obviuosly found out, but, no they are bad boys but nice to me, ...
 But the nicest people are the ones with burdens from thier own wildness and wild spirit. Thats what i notice, i meet plenty of quote un quote stable business men but i usually dont get along with them,and most the time they arent very nice, i fnd the business men clients types to be more rude and abusive than any bikers, tough italian, dudes, i find the clients to be the more rude and degrading than any of the "quuote un quote bad boys. i have more memorable bad experiences where i got hurt mentally OR physically and it was never with bad boy! always clients,...................... its just two different worlds,.and in my experience all the bad boys i dated treated me better than clients, and any bad memories or whatever its from an experience that happened at work, not with my bad boy boyfriends, i never got hurt  with them, i had clients get too rough and been hurt after though, I also had cleients say things that mentally were damaging too, Like lets see begging me to come out to the car even though i am saying i am sore and tirred and pms and worked too much, telling me you wann help me with errands and take me to get clean laundry at laundry mat and coffee, then bashing me in review after coercing me and acting sweet? i only had nerdy clients do whacky stuff like trying to force you to keep goin when you say your hurting, Or  just plain being so rough your in pain next day,  
 And then again not helping you any where near the bad boys i dated were way more generous and helpful than any client ever been, and expect alot less of you, Then youl have some ugly guys with bad breath come, want a discount AND be a shiity fuck and do everything wrong and they are cheap. all the guys i met gave good review they been nice but thier been a small percentage that , i d really enjoy , um, yeah , i will just leave that part out, lol.

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they exposeded you boo, aww.

Not intentionally, I didnt wake up and say i want my next wifey to be some one who has been in trouble before.  
 I personally have no control of who I am atrracted too I cant control what turns me on.  
Can you?  
if you could control who turns you on  just think , you could make only your wife turn you on and then save all your money , correct?
 Last I checked who gets your heart racin isnt really like a choice , but more often than not there does tend to be a pattern, on the type we choose to make out partner.  
                        so yes SERIOUSLY i have dated men and women whom have either had rocky pasts or even who continue too, yes SERIUOSLY grant loser .  
 and you apparently like to pay women for sex, so thats equally as baffling to me, so there. go on with yer bad self and the 95  ladies you reviewed.  
 to me that is like deserving of a huge SERIOUSLY? if we could choose whom we fall in love with then i am sure youd choose to be turned on by a woman you can land in the sack for free. am i right ? If humans were in control of whom they choose to fall in love with then wouldnt most yall fall in love with women who are ok with the hobby ? or do you enjoy lying and spending money that was meant on the kids tuition on escorts, I guess the guys cant control whom they fall into seriuos relationships with either, like how the hell a guy with 95 reviews gonna type seriuosly under commenting about my type? like yeah seriuosly thats been my track record. And yours is cheating and fucking women who obviuosly cant stand you, since out of 95 not a one white listed ya! so your not any better there losah! yeah thought so deauces biaaaatch,

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no wonder why you have no clue,  
 people fall in love with people . why?
 because they do.  
 it could be an older man, a fat chic, i was in love with a fat chic once and yes i happen to have a pattern of dating guys just released from prison who go back, i am unsure why and i dont care life takes me where it takes me and i have zero apologies if your old man pants are in a bunch over it, waaaaah, sorry gramps did i startle you? oh god help us, . and what you date fuckn saints ? and hows that goin for ya?  
    apparently she aint suckn yer prick now is she so maybe you should take a que from me and step outside the hole you live in and try dating some one cuz you like them not cuz they are an upstanding member of society, If you stop worrying about what every one thinks of you and do what YOU want maybe you wouldnt have 96 reviews and not a single lady white listed you, thats pretty sad, and with your uptight rude attitude , i can tell your a draining close minded "my shit dont stink type."  
   um seriuosly seriuosly?
 yes seriuosly you old fart, whut? no i am joking, wtf? like wow.

Some of my best friends are sluts.

And where have I EVER expressed the desire to "own" anybody. The problem with ownership of another human being is that they in turn own you as well. So I will pass, TYVM

and I thought I made this clear. I do not pay for "time and companionship" I pay for NSA sex, nothing more and nothing less. If I wanted to pay for "companionship" I would buy a dog.

I doubt you generate that most months.

Maybe if you'd STFU and find a few guys to pay you you'd also have a nice "Uncle Ben" collection.

If anyone wanted to translate your babble into something comprehensible I'd read their post.

Many of "us" hide our whitelists...for a variety of reasons.

Yes, you are definitely a very respectful person. Not everyone thinks like everyone else, and I tend to think those who think for themselves are the ones who respect based on the person and not the circumstance/job.

thats good i am glad you agree how bout rsponding to what the thread is about? i am sure every one is really lookin to hear people agree they think am a fruit cake,,,,,,
 but ok if thats your contribution to the thread. go on with your bad self. And you are....................
Let me guess super perfect flawless inteliigent successful should i strive to be more like you? glad you agree. now wheres your response to the thread, ? geezus. boring, thats the best you could come up with for a post? wow, you must be a blast to do an appt with, lots of interesting ideas and things to say, wow,