Had a client last week who after about 2 minutes went straight for the pussy with his digits. Let's just say it was like the Sahara down there because this guy is very unattractive, but very sweet. He is one of those johns who pretty much insists on the lady getting off which naturally is an impossibility for me so out come those acting skills to make this guy happy.
 
So there he is poking away and it is becoming sore and irritated so I gently move his hand to other places in the hopes he will get the hint that when NOT WET, it's irritating. Nope not a chance, back he went digging around, not rough but when you're not wet that is not comfortable.  

common sense is like deodorant ,,, those that need it the most, probably will not use it!
just remember the danger of even a small scratch.

He'll love you for it...and so will you  LOL

I mean, my fingers get so dry.  When a girl tries to put it in her wet pussy and I'm not aroused,  it just makes my fingers painful.  Do girls have any clue when a guy doesn't want his fingers in there?  :

I just can't understand why some guys are so fucking clueless. I guess that's why we get the big bucks to deal with that too. Well as far as this one is concerned, he is getting the chat.

Honestly I know I can't tolerate stupid...and that's what so many dudes are when it comes to sex.

from subtle clues. The truly stupid need to be told. I'm guessing we can all be both of those at different times and in different ways.  

fingers altogether? I'd like to believe most women are quite sensitive on the 'outside' anyway if touched the right way. No need to jam anything up in there quite honestly. Not effective, at least, not on this chica anyway lol.

to ask a woman if you can put your finger in? Ever since reading complaints on this forum from providers, I've been asking (also using hand sanitizer).

Plenty of gals love shit rammed up...some don't however.

if anticipation alone doesn't get my juices flowing. You could try that.

I didn't ever see that memo..is it on the Inet?

How about you get a nice, and nice tasting, lube, maybe already warmed up. Ask him to rub it on you?  Start gently on the outside, maybe softly massage the labia major first.  Rub plenty around the inner lips, moving around gently, but making sure all the edges and surfaces are lightly rubbed with lube.  Start looking for the opening by gently parting the curtains, maybe reposition your legs so the labia stay open.  Looking back and forth from the view to your eyes to see what you're liking is, of course, required.  

HE likes to poke around. I have made such a big deal about his oral skills in the hopes that he will go there and leave his fingers out of it BUT NO, so I am going to be truthful and tell him if it is not wet, leave it alone.  

hell no LOL. Not my thing and not how my bod is programmed. Plus, it's not about getting 'me' off anyway. I'm plenty good with focusing on him and not me for the entire session, quite honestly, that's what it's about for me. However, there are many men who are extremely adamant of it being the other way around. Not sure why that is. Either way works for me of course, as long as he listens to what works instead of guessing if he's going to insist on getting me off. I have no problem telling someone what to do and NOT to do. It's my body afterall.

I will break out the lube and if he gets miffed he is not the one turning me on, well that is his deal not mine. He needs to check the mirror and maybe reality as well while he is there.

The more I read I am going to tell him not to bother with his fingers...not a fan of it anyway lubed or not.  

That does absolutely nothing for me. He just needs to keep his fingers away period. And no I don't care if he finds someone else.

Rammed! Now I see why guys have it all wrong for some of us. Who the fuck told em that ramming is the default unless told otherwise?  

I'm the opposite. I love a good fingerbanging. If done correctly, it can make a lady spring a leak.  

Ignorance and sluggish thinking are conditions that no one forgives. Even a person of limited intelligence will condemn those with lesser mental ability, or less knowledge-- which is really mostly accumulated sense-data and sufficient problem solving skill to make rational sense of observations. Most people DO master some degree of that, meaning people can learn and behavior can undergo some degree of change. But because this man seems reluctant to learn, you're frustrated as to how to teach, even communicate.

Especially while they are paying your $$$$$ an hour at the time.

And to answer your question about why some guys like it to be about the woman receiving pleasure, well, some of us get turned on more if we believe she's into it.  Simple as that.

Regarding the word "rammed" I understand the cringe.  But also bear in mind there are gals who, when properly warmed up really do like it "duro."  Less than a week ago I was with a wonderful little nympho who at a certain point started to yell, "Pound it!  Pound it!"  So I did.  I hope that was OK.  She did a very good impression of liking it, then told me to spank her ass.

and keep it up for a while, to be sure she's wet, before introducing a digit.  I'll admit I love girls who enjoy that.  To me  it's very sexy to have a couple of fingers massaging her G-Spot whilst my tongue flicks her clit, or while she sucks my cock.

Pounded  LOL

Well, I guess it's not a standard of any kind. Maybe it should be printed on all $100 bills.

They pick a hooker on what level of boner they get. We get, at times a fucking nightmare. That is why we charge what we do because, you and every other man who is not getting what he wants from the wife, the gf, self service, porn or a civvy comes to us.  

I am sure some ladies are freaky and good for them. I am not turned on by terms that conjure roughness, violence or pain. Never have been and never will. I see a review from a prospective john that says any of those words and it is a "sorry I am unavailable" email back.  

To give him that humaness and to make him feel he is pleasing me. But there is just something so fucking irritating at having your clit rubbed dry.  

maybe something like:  "Crap! This isn't working! I'll just do it harder and faster! That's got to work!"

gentlemen I see are that way and they are typically older than myself. I love it and most are excellent at what they do. You can tell they've had years of experience in understanding a woman's body as they listen very well and most times more than none, I don't have to say a word lol. Again, quite an adjustment for someone who has only seen younger guys before this so-called hobby. I just sometimes wonder how it turns out to be all about me lol in some instances and catches me off guard at times. They are so in tune to me, my needs and wants, it's quite refreshing to say the least. Give and take certainly heightens a session 10x over. Especially with my returning gentlemen friends which is what I prefer. Each time only gets better and better.  

It's either they are too clueless to realize our vaginas do not flow like a waterfall with wetness upon the very sight of them, or too many providers have bit their lips and never said a word to avoid a bad review. I can assure you, I was never that girl lol. Even worse is a guy who wants to slap a condom on and just have sex with NO stimulation beforehand... that's where those Liquibeads come in handy, but I would just kick his stupid ass to the curb before going through the trouble. I can deal with ugly guys, fat guys, rude guys and shy guys, but I draw the line at total dipshits.

It's not about being selfish... that simply connotes you wanting to get off, NOT you wanting to play like you're skilled by causing physical pain to someone. I don't give two shits how much a guy pays... if he puts me in actual physical pain, his options are going to be very limited. A foot up his ass or he can leave without harm AND without his money for being such a dumbass. If you want a body that does not respond to painful stimuli, get a plastic one and leave hookers alone lol.

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He's unattractive, no skills. Why do you see him?

I am not being paid enough to endure pain because some guys wants to feel like a stud. Find a BDSM lady to do that shit with.

And yet you continue to see him. Imagine that.  

...although I'm sure there are a great many hobbyists out there who you WOULD find attractive.

TS said ..."Not sure why that is" in reference to men wanting to please her. I replied with what I did. Many men don't like to be seen as selfish lovers in this game. Fk dude, YOU know that.

Too many hookers have said nothing for fear of a bad review.  I don't give a fuck about a bad review, or any review for that matter. If it hurts you are going to be told to stop.

I can send you a link if you are in the market.  
   
Look, if a hooker is dealing with a "fucking nightmare" then she should tell the a-hole john to stop or GTFO of hooking. SO tired of hearing so many broads bitch and moan while they reach for that fat envelope.
   
Be thankful some fkin sloob will pay you the fkin money. Lots of people out of work, or didn't you hear there is a bad economy?  
   
Maybe I'll send you a CNN Breaking News alert for your cell phone since you're not up on all the latest news. Got mine just a few hours ago. First quarter GDP at 0.1% sweetie. Btw, that's considered bad. Real bad.  
   
So you have to put up with an orgasm once in awhile. You'll get over it. They are actually quite enjoyable.  
   
Which brings me back to that Hitachi..

Why is it that despite being more than represented in all the major professions, business, sports, military, arts, sciences, academia, politics, and yes even crime, you could not name even one famous Jewish explorer?

We have Mr. Moses to thank for that.

The money. 95% of my johns are not men I would even bother with in real life. This is a job , I am not looking for a BF. And this is NOT where I come to get mine. I have a couple of great hot and sexy FWB that deal with my needs and desires.  

Again, the unforgivable offense: Not being very bright.

It is a job that I get paid for, not fucking match.com trying to find a life partner.

Do you think that if men were smarter that these inflated prices would come down?

Damnit... how is it you guys KNOW when I must be drinking lol. Up yours mofo!  

More like the sooner it's over, the sooner I can pull his shoe out of my ass and throw it back to him so he does not have to explain that on the way home.

And I wont ask about the weight loss but...just hope it wasn't on that new fad "Aldo Plan" was it?

You got a boob reduction??? rofl

and people usually know when I am drinking as well, if it's five o'clock SOMEWHERE, I am most likely drinking.

Did it hit anything of anybody?? Oh sorry, you said not to ask. Seriously if it was meant to be, congratulations on the weight.

I've seen quite a few of the BF/SO of gals who I find quite attractive.  

Lose him, learn from it, heal up and move on. next new guy (NO DIGITS)

Everybody bitches and moans about their job at some point, why is this any different? Oh I know why, it could be you some hooker is bitching and moaning about.  

HTG knows I love her and, for the record, I usually like 90% of what "hobbyist+truth" says, too.  But it seems like they took a fairly innocuous post and spun themselves completely out of orbit with it. Girls! Come back!  Please!  Come back!  You are needed here!

This explains why he found "The New World" instead of India, where he was headed

and she still makes at least a little bit more sense than Pimples or Fungy, but the gap is narrowing. lol

That defense is weak.  

I'll agree he sounds like a fucking nightmare.  But you've kept seeing him despite this, so you've really got only yourself to blame.  I assume you're about to cut him off, but you should have done it sooner.  What he's paying you can't possibly be worth it.

You can buy an awful lot of self respect for $2,000,000.00 lol

Bitching about some POS client that won't listen....there's a reason why so many gals here have NO fucking chance of ever getting ahead in this world.

I like the fantasy, build it up and play it out, lie to me, I don't care. Get me off and I'm completely fine with it. I'll give you the envelope, you give me the fantasy and we're good. I don't expect you to think I'm hot, especially since I know I'm not.  

He is a sweet guy, kind and decent. Other than his penchant for touching me dry and not having a fucking clue that it does not feel good, and expecting me to come, I deal. As do many ladies deal , for the money.  

Every hooker puts up with something for the money as does every person in every job at some stage. If we all quit because something or someone pissed us off there would be huge unemployment.

YOU wrote the OP on the pathetic state of the client(s) in your world...NOT me.

And russ isn't cheap either.  

You might want to get an education yourself honey just to broaden out that Mensa equivalent vocabulary you got going on there.  

I can't believe you turned your comment into a hookers lack of business acumen and education, your timeless standby insults when my post had nothing to do with it.  

But then you decided it was all about you...how narcissistic  LOL

Purely personal kind of thing.  

Otherwise how would some of you deal? I do consider some of the audience. You in particular. LO

Put him on "do not reply" on the emails/text/phone

It was about the cluelessness of some guys and how a woman's body works.  

So teach him....haven't you tried to talk to him?... I'm actually very gentle with women and am very good down there because I and understand that 99% of women's vagina's aren't receptive to being abused like in some Gonzo movie. Even still I'm always receptive to instruction because some women orgasm from G spot stimulation, others from clitoral, some are too sensitive on the clit etc...  As for using digits while not wet....that's a no brainer, but you should be teaching him about the Vag and what to do because he obviously has no clue. Sounds like this guy watches too much porn and thinks that the techniques he sees in movies are what he needs to use in real life.

Got to go, but look forward to more "back and forth".

This guy wants it, no needs it to be real for him. Oh well.

So here's a song, just for you.  Partly sarcastic, partly not.  Cuz I still like you, you bitch! LOL

This is just supposed to be a rant. But, this thread has turned into a clusterfuck. Same thing kinda happened to Khori's thread in the Atlanta board the other day.

This chestnut keeps coming up over and over, but no serious scholars that I've heard of give the theory much credence.

It's a very natural role for you to play.

If common sense were anywhere in the vicinity, you could just pull out the lube without him reading that as a condemnation of his sexual prowess. I suppose it would be unrealistic to ask that porn scenes had a closer resemblance to how having sex with a woman who is REALLY enjoying it actually looks.  

She tried her hand at throwing out an OP that would create some havoc.

What;s the world coming to?

I once did Google the term "Jewish explorers", and came back with some interesting reading.  In most cases, the "explorers" were merchants who hooked up with an explorer in search of new business.

None of the names however, were of famous explorers whom you would actually find in a history book used in grade school.

However, the explanation is funny because we all deal with it - most just don't say it.

At one point in our play she queefed.  A lot.  Later, she asked if I was going to review her that I not mention it.  I said sure and assumed she was embarrassed by it but she said no.  "A lot of guys really like it when girls queef but I can't do it with everyone and I don't want them to expect me to and be disappointed."

Yah, but some clients will not take no for an answer until you show them the door... which, is exactly what I would do. Some of these guys can be told numerous times not to do this, how to do this and they still insist they know best. Ok then.  

Not that you are the primary one who does this, but EVERY fkin time we express the least bit of disdain for a 'facet' of this business, the "you're jaded, quit your job" comments do seem to surface.  

The option was lose weight or add on to the house which I can't do in a high rise bwahahhaa. I miss my big house in nola, but I had to lease it out to pay off the mortgage and be able to move to the beach.  

told h+t that she is jaded, or to quit her job?

Does not change the fact that every time a hooker bitches about some idiot, we are told to quit the biz by many guys here. It's the most asinine thing to say, unless she always complains about a different facet of the industry. Trust me, if it was ALL bad, everyone would quit.

And that would mean I may indeed be a secondary person to do that?

Lol

... I remember the boat feet complaint lol

At least on my iPad.  I get to the page but there's no content there, other than some generic picture.

I'll try with an actual computer later.

Perhaps, it's time to pass the torch (of teaching him) to another lady.