I came across a provocative ad for a traveling provider based in New York. Her photos are stunning, her services are expansive and her prices, although at the top of my scale, are reasonable given the perceived value. But, I was unable to find any reviews. Anywhere.
Being that I am not one to TOFTT, regardless of how compelling the subject, I made an inquiry on the New York regional board. I got a message back from TER stating that my post could not be published because the provider is, and I quote, "delisted/banned". As such, I can not mention her here.
I did not know that providers could be "banned". What kinds of things would get a provider banned from TER?
I have requested being delisted previously when I retired, but when I returned they let me come back. I have never been banned, but my original reviewer was for breaking the rules. Anyone can be banned from TER if they’re not following the rules.
brownjack,
Both Providers & Hobbyists can be band from any site like this. Due to false info. The female that you are talking about......Probably falsified info.
I know of one provider who got banned. Apparently she gave admins a hard time and was just generally a pain. No idea what else she may have done.
They eventually let her back after a few years.
Maybe reach out to her and ask?
Best thing to do find a way to get in touch with her thru other means, if you can and book with her.
Bottom line you can't reach her on TER.
Sometimes it is being a pain in the neck, like when a provider complains about every single review that is not a 10/10..
On the other hand, some providers cross the line and rip off clients by not returning deposits after they last minute cancel a session or just no-show.
Then at the extreme are cases when providers try to extort clients in some way like exposing personal information if they don't write a perfect review or even send them money.
In between there are a a lot of other ways that a provider could be banned. Getting guys to write fake reviews is another example. Sometimes providers have attempted to write fake reviews for themselves. Note that TER takes note of your computer's ID and ISP info. Even logging on using a client's computer can get you in hot water when once I let my escort girl friend log on using my computer. That got her a stern warning not to do so, so be aware of that.
Clients can also get banned for similar activities.
you only got a stern warning. A very well-reviewed provider I know got banned for something similar. She was upset about it but is doing fine. Which is an example of why we shouldn’t assume anything about a provider only because she’s delisted or “banned” from TER.
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A Provider working for a well known and popular agency kept the cash money from a few days of work, didn't deliver the agency's cut to the agency and skipped out on them. On their website, the agency posted a NON-REDACTED photo of her real license and a message along the lines of, "Mary Smith [real name] is a thief! She took our money and skipped! Be warned!" or something similar. (It was an agency I used regularly and I saw the license photo and warning on their website.) The agency was banned from TER for, I think, a year. Maybe two? But they were allowed back and were re-activated.

One of the reasons I starting paying for VIP was an early unanswered Q.
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There was an ad on an a now-defunct ad mail -- incredibly beautiful, seductive content, etc. - but her Profile gave an error: "No longer available" or one of the other similar errors. I posted a Q to the boards and Admin pulled it with no explanation. I tried again on another relevant board. Post pulled. I paid for VIP and PMed some reputable members and someone explained it to me:
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The Provider was a TS well known on TER but who refused to advertise or be Profiled as a TS. That is a basis for being banned by TER.
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Years later, I think there was a similar situation with a Boston based TS Provider, O-------, who used to post a lot but got banned for refusing to advertise being TS up front.
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I don't know if it's a TS issue or a false advertising issue but it's issue.
I remember the Boston case. "She" was post-op and thus believed she didn't have to say she was TS. Nowadays, she might actually have a case to make with TER but all the guys who saw her made clear they wanted to know beforehand.
For sure, there are post-ops doing that today too. And some guys didn't even know it when they review them.
I would avoid that provider like the plague. Lots of women delist for various reasons and it isn't always a dealbreaker. However the admin probably used the word "banned" for a reason. It is bad news, and usually a sign that the provider is unstable and/or dangerous. STAY AWAY from this one and find someone else. You got all the information you need.
Providers can request delisting for pretty much any reason they want.
I recall a provider that was banned a few years back based on a post to the boards here -- probably GD but don't recall. It was a deposit related issue and a scheduling conflict. I think the guy inquired about setting something up and then the girl changed her schedule. Then was demanding he pay the deposit that would be applied to some future date when she did tour his city. I think she was threatening a blacklisting or doxxing but have forgotten all the detaila at this point.
And, of course it might also be true that after the discussion on the board it was the provider that asked to be delisted rather than TER banning her but as I recall the general view was that she was banned for her behavior.
Hypothetical: If I see a never before listed provider and post a review of her. Does TER contact her to get her permission before opening a profile for her? And then, does she get to determine that she would prefer to delist herself rather than let the review stand?
That seems to be the implication. That provider profiles only exist with the provider's permission. If that is the case, then how is this service of any value for identifying rip-offs? The girl in question could be a nightmare. And as such, had a horrendous review, and therefore preferred to be delisted.
Which suggests that providers could change their names/numbers/personas to avoid past bad reviews. Am I missing anything?
The provider does not have to approve a review or even for a profile to be started for them.
Once a review is written, the profile exists. I have been told EVEN if a provider delists themselves and a new review is written on them, the profile reactivates and she would have to go through the process of delisting her profile again. My conversation had nothing to do with being banned so I am not sure on that part.
I have written reviews on providers that I did not know had delisted and those reviews were rejected with the reason given that the provider delisted.
GTK thank you!
Actually it seems that since Fosta Sesta TER changed their rules. It used to be that to delist a provider had to get rid of all adds . Think lawyers have revised standards. What I do not understand is if you see an add and do a first review how they catch it to not publish or were they published and pulled ?
Since everything that is posted or added to TER becomes TER's property delisting doesn't imply deltition. I'm pretty sure I've heard it said TER keeps all the information even if they are not making it available to the public or VIP members. In that case, unless the provider changed their name, ads and other information it should be pretty easy for TER to find a match between any new reviews/profiles and one of the archived profiles.
I know a provider who was banned by TER so her profile was gone. When I tried to see her profile I got the same error that I'd see if she delisted.
A few years later she got reinstated and everything came back - profile and reviews.
As long as her ad/website meet TER's criteria you can post a review without the provider's permission. Happens a lot in the massage world as most there don't really seek or rely on reviews.
Not sure about Heather's statement that a delisted provider's prov=file will reactivate is a new review pops up. Interesting "glitch" if that's the case.
Yes, bad providers change names and numbers to escape bad reviews. It's up to seasoned members to sniff these out and report them to TER Admin. With proof (same photos, typically) they will combine the profiles and list both names, or in the case of banned providers, remove the new listing. It's a constant battle.
I got banned from a board on the west coast because the mod did not like that I did not read the rules . They wanted a certain thing done and I read too fast. I apologized but she was not having it a banned me . I was like ok then. It happens.