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Less jaded
DeClemente 48 Reviews 4027 reads
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If you were to take an honest look inward, is there anything that even though it hasn't left you wanting to drop out or stop completely, has left you with sort of a blasé attitude about this stuff in which you're involved?

RespectfulRobert 151 reads
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But experience has greatly helped. My ability to research has vastly improved over the years but the bigger thing is, for me at least, is knowing when to take breaks from the hobby. I build in some downtime 2-3 times a year, lasting a month or more sometimes, and that has made me avoid becoming burnt out as it allows me to enjoy my dates even more.

DrZoology 171 Reviews 166 reads
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3 / 34

Yes, this can become very addictive; breaks are imperative for sustainability.

trex44 9 Reviews 135 reads
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4 / 34

...are part of my game plan. Any time I feel that I'm becoming jaded or burned out with ANYTHING, not just p4p, I step away from it for a while. I'll then reassess whether it's still something I want to do and, if so, get back into it.

If not, I maintain my distance until I feel the pull telling me I'm ready.

WICardinalfan 37 Reviews 138 reads
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5 / 34

My ability to perform has gone down since I started in the hobby, and that comes with aging.  

I get sad and frustrated when I cannot finish, the juice does not respond to the squeeze.  It is a double whammy, bad return on investment and a cold reminder that my best days in the bedroom are behind me.  

A former lover once told me I get bored easily.  I guess that is true.  I find, at times, the standard template for a provider session bores me.   Kiss for a few, BBBJ, DATY, Fuck if I can, BBBJ to completion, see you later.

I have three ATF's in which we have found a groove which prevents boredom.  Most, not all, new ladies I meet fall into the template.  It's not fair to expect anything beyond that, and when it happens I know I am blaze mode.  Not their fault.

In the present I will stick to my ATF's until I feel the itch to try someone new, or go into a market I have not visited since COVID.  

 
A great question BTW.

DeClemente 48 Reviews 125 reads
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Posted By: WICardinalfan
Re: Being totally honest  
 
WICardinalfan, thanks for replying,

PeterPickle 156 reads
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7 / 34

...in the hobby is when there's been obsessive attachment to me by a provider, no doubt because of my wallet and not anything else lol.  

Though these occasions are rare, it has happened usually with porn stars who I might see everyday for a few days, so much so that they perhaps let their guard down and spend more hours wth me than I'm paying them for, sometimes even overnight, maybe thinking it was turning into a SD situation for them.  

And when I stop calling the next week they find a reason to come over and go nuts on me like I owe them something. I had one such girl ring my doorbell non-stop for about an hour in the middle of the night because I stopped responding to her texts or picking up her calls.

So in instances like these yes I have felt jaded and the need to take a break, but otherwise the hobby has mostly been worthwhile and pleasurable.

BigPapasan 3 Reviews 159 reads
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8 / 34

a simple text saying: "I had fun but now I'm moving on" could have avoided someone ringing your doorbell non-stop for about an hour in the middle of the night.

PeterPickle 135 reads
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9 / 34

...that something similar wasn't already done lol!

DeClemente 48 Reviews 123 reads
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10 / 34

Posted By: BigPapasan
Re: No, you don't owe them anything, but...
a simple text saying: "I had fun but now I'm moving on" could have avoided someone ringing your doorbell non-stop for about an hour in the middle of the night.
BigPapasan, not every set of stimuli works the same way for all people. There are a variety of responses or outcomes that may arise from sending a simple text like the one you suggested above. Some people may take it at face value and respect its straighforwardness. Others might go ape-shit crazy.

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 141 reads
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11 / 34

There is a certain percent of escorts who generally like their profession and prefer it to many others available to them. Finding this makes the endeavor much more enjoyable, rather than the public perception that they are all financially desperate man haters.

eroticspirit 28 Reviews 78 reads
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12 / 34

Mya--I LOVED reading your story--it's great to hear ladies that have nothing but positives to say about this fascinating "underground" world we reside in.  

IMHO society would be SO much happier if we weren't so "possessive" about relationships, sex. etc. For this reason I have always had a great fascination about the late 1960's. It seemed like in that era there was a brief window of opportunity where a mass transformation could take place and people could be freer and more communal, less hung up on the constraints and dogmas of conventional morality. It's a shame that the ideals of that time couldn't be sustained and the vision collapsed. Ultimately it's VERY difficult to snap the chains of what William Blake called "the mind-forged manacles."

PeterPickle 89 reads
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13 / 34

...that's EXACTLY what they were doing lol!

I would say the average rate for a porn star is around $1,500 an hour nowadays particularly if you book them through an agency, but I've paid (for the initial booking) anywhere between $700 and $2,500 an hour for the ones I've seen.

Generally the prices are lower if you find them as independents on sites like Eros, though of course you run the risk of some of the listings being scams if you don't go through an agency, so definitely due diligence is in order if one chooses to go that route.

And I'm sure the agencies are aware of this so I don't think I'm revealing any big secrets here (though of course they frown upon the practice), but most of the porn stars I've seen have slipped me their private number during our initial agency-arranged session to book them directly, so the rates for any subsequent meetings can be much lower as you're effectively cutting out the middleman.

Promises, promises...well the next time I'm in Chicago I'll be sure to put yours to the test lol!

allcomers 136 reads
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Thanks for the post. I remember decades ago talking to a doc who told me about a patient of his who was still getting it on at 80! In hearing the story, that was my first introduction to the physical phenomenon of sexual latency. The 80-yo could only have sex once a month, but he reported that it was still great. I was young enough at the time that a daily orgasm or two was still the routine. Girlfriend/wife, or porn, didn't matter. Unfortunately, I've grown (aged) to know what that latency feels like. It pisses me off! It's not fair. It shouldn't be! LOL.
 
This hobby changed things up enough at the beginning to make the problem of latency almost forgotten. And that's where getting jaded comes in. The additional excitement from getting to fuck a girl 1/3 my age and doing it the way I want to is starting to feel not so new and exciting anymore. Damn. At least I had 7 or so months of feeling like I was in my 20s again. Ha! I thought the issue would be inability to get a hardon. That's easily fixed. What goes is, and I don't have better words to describe it, the easy arousal and resulting animal compulsion.  
 
I got laid a couple nights ago and it was great. That was after a two-week layoff. Prior to that, I was still trying to be with a girl once a week, but in the last month it had started to feel forced.
 
I, too, have fallen in as a repeat customer where there's chemistry. I hate it when one of those girls leaves the area. I wonder when I'll be at the once a month stage. I'll have to remind myself that it's better than none at all!

Robertini 4 Reviews 84 reads
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Robertini 4 Reviews 88 reads
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I'm not trying to say anything. I just jumped in without reading anything and said, I would be jaded because I don't know about dating and stuff.  
But you can still share that thing or two with the rest of the following public of this thread.  
I like it when this happens in real life, "are you trying to say that..." and the two people are talking about nothing the same. LOL . It used to bother me or get me in trouble. But at this age and not working or studying with women around just brings me memories  and laugh.

36363jensen 4 Reviews 71 reads
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19 / 34

I've read for a while now.

 
Thank you both!

STOLGUY 24 Reviews 149 reads
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20 / 34

Some great comments on this subject here on what is of course a complex subject.

I'll speak for myself in that the jading comes with realization that all this is really a just a transaction for services.  I won't say "always", but most of the time it is anyway.  It's the intangible difference between a woman wanting to be there vs a woman wanting to be there for the money.  More or less because she has to be, not because she necessarily wants to be.  As dumb as we are, guys pick this up.  As such, the encounters should be viewed only in the "fun" context and when you unwittingly cross the line over to "wanting" or "thinking more", this when hollow experience or the "jading" sets in.

I liken this intangible difference in the experience of buying a motorcycle that's already been restored vs doing one yourself.  Sure, you still have the same bike, but the former just takes money and is perhaps a hollow experience as a result.  The latter takes commitment and is not.  

lester_prairie 12 Reviews 131 reads
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Transaction for service ... there was just today a twitter thread by SW'ers who no longer have "free sex" with civies.  It's called hypergamy and almost all women use sex in trade for support.  Not saying they can't or don't enjoy sex, but they know they can trade it for support, so they do.   Doesn't matter if it is sex work, girlfriends, or wives.  It's just what women do.

mrfisher 115 Reviews 66 reads
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22 / 34

A thoughtful and intelligent post on TER?

 
I doff my hat to thee.

helixir 54 Reviews 87 reads
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Agree wholeheartedly. I think I'm in pretty good shape, interesting to talk to and I can even be charming and funny in short spurts. But when I compare myself to my friends who can't get a civvie date to save their lives, the main difference--and the main reason I've dated consistently even through the pandemic--is that I bring something tangible to the table.  I've got money in the bank, property and a good income.  Even if the women I date aren't looking for someone to take care of them, it's always there in the background like an unspoken thought. And they sure as hell don't want a man who himself needs to be taken care of.

Now that's not to say we aren't all complex creatures. I provided all that security and comfort to my ex. And what did she do? She went and got "dick" from someone more exciting.  Sometimes you can't win. 😆

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 78 reads
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"support" per se, just keep gifting her chocolate, lingerie and jewelry, and she till be delighted.  Women love jewelry (make sure its the real deal - diamonds and gold) and when other women admire it, they love saying, "my boyfriend/husband gave it to me."   Even if she needs no help with rent, car payment, of other basics, she will still know she has a keeper, and if she DID need that kind of help, you would step up.  Why lingerie?  Its the gift that keeps on giving back all year long.  Lol

mrfisher 115 Reviews 68 reads
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25 / 34

But it doesn't have to always be diamonds and gold (Though I've bought enough of them nevertheless)

 
What is more dear to a gal's heart is that the artistry of how the jewelry is made is of key importance.  For example, authentic native Indian jewelry  is often gorgeous, and uses semi-precious stones such as turquoise, lapis, etc.   I just bought a great piece for a friend and they love it just because it is artistic and unique.   Crafts shows are great places to find these things as well as consignment shops.   You can find great bargains between $100-500.

 
Jewelry is easy to transport, you don't have to worry about size (Unless it's a ring),  and you can bet they'll never toss it away.   It's a constant reminder of you that they wear on their body.   Can't beat that.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 66 reads
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But I have NEVER gone shoe shopping with a woman for two reasons . . . .  1)  Its the most boring thing I can think of doing,  (It brings me "got rope?" thoughts - lol), and if you go shoe shopping with a woman, everyone thinks you're gay  (Only gay men know ANYTHING about women's shoes.)    

GaGambler 89 reads
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27 / 34

They usually come in pairs, for one. And in addition to that...  

 
ok maybe I only know "a thing" about women's shoes, not a thing "or two" lol

MfSD 39 Reviews 139 reads
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I got seated for a dinner date recently knowing the lady, a newer provider, might not show...she didn't. It was that few minutes sitting there and realizing that while I wanted her to show, if she didn't, life would go on. And I did have other dates scheduled on this particular Vegas trip that worked out fine. More water under the blase bridge....

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 63 reads
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with semi-precious stones is often one-of-a-kind, so the value is often in the uniqueness.  The only downside is that they are often mounted in sterling silver rather than gold in order to keep the price reasonable.  Gold does not tarnish, silver does, so I generally try to avoid silver jewelry.  I want to give her a gift, not a cleaning project, but curiously enough, many women don't mind cleaning their jewelry.  Its like a rich guy counting his money every day.  Lol

mrfisher 115 Reviews 69 reads
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A piece is worth more if you do NOT polish the sliver than if you do.

 
Sounds crazy, but I've had any number of jewelry and antique dealers tell me the same thing.   Also applies to rare coins.

coeur-de-lion 400 Reviews 75 reads
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but not about everyday Jewelry.  That's good to know.  

Kitty76 See my TER Reviews 140 reads
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The attitudes, deception (Theft of service) & the hobbyists acting as if us "PROVIDERS" should cheapen ourselves just so they can have what they want.

chunking 94 Reviews 151 reads
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Bingo! Taking breaks is important.  It keeps things fresh.  Especially with the highly limited supply in Bay Area at present.
I tried an experiment of taking a break, and found that Jnr responded well even a mediocre experience .. if you find yourself chasing the bigger, better rush, take a break.

Taking off on a  tangent, seeing SW's on a regular basis have opened my eyes to just how transactional my relationships with past GF's/SO's were.  Having lay down the crisp green bills before the legs opened made me realize that GF's/SO's are similar, just the timelines and currencies are different.

Some guys may have the true Charisma with women that actually make them love them "unconditionally" ,, but is it real?

As the BB King song went, "Nobody Loves me but my Momma, and sometimes I think she's jiving me too".

DeClemente 48 Reviews 128 reads
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Posted By: chunking
Re: For me it's had a side effect ..  

Bingo! Taking breaks is important.  It keeps things fresh, especially with the highly limited supply in Bay Area at present.
Gee, chunking, I wonder what it's like to be in an area with a highly limited supply. I have so many women in my area on my to-do list, my standby list, my must-see list, my must-do-again list, my must-find-someone-for-a-threesome-with-her list, that I'll be dead, impotent, broke or worse before I get to all of them. On top of that, new women keep getting added to my list(s) all the time.

Well, at least I'll die happy.

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