The FIRST thing I do when I enter the room is to leave the donation (in an unsealed white envelope) on her desk, table, nightstand...depending on the room set-up. I make sure she sees me doing this. You have now eliminated any doubt in the ladies mind that you are going to pay for the session. There is NOTHING a provider dreads more than having to ask a gentleman for the donation. If you just leave it at the start, you have gotten the business aspect out of the way and you can proceed to the fun part. I think this is especially important on a first visit where the provider has no idea as to your character. Believe me if business is not taken care of at the start, both the provider and hobbyist will be thinking of the donation at some point during their time together.
I also think that bartering in this business is A DEFINITE NO. If you are not satisfied with the session, too bad. Live and learn and don’t see the lady again. Look we've all had the sessions where there minimal services offered (No LFK, no BJ's and plain boring mish, etc.) In those instances while I was completely dissatisfied, I still paid the full fee without question or hesitation. The time to walk away from the session is at the start (i.e. if you feel she has misrepresented herself physically). Once you engage the lady in a session, you are obligated to pay the amount. If you can’t afford the session, book someone else.
The two ladies you are seeing who ask for the donations at the end are way too trustworthy. I know they prob. want to make the session seem like a date more than a business transaction but eventually it will come back to burn them. They will eventually run into gentlemen who refuse or forget to pay or complain about the session and want a discount. The donation should be paid at the start.
-- Modified on 5/10/2007 1:02:04 PM
Recently, I have met two providers that ask for compensation at the end of the session. Personally I think that is great. First.if your not satisfied with the session then you can bargain a little, and secondly it is more of a gift. But, again I think about the provider. What if a guy just takes off? Anyway, I'd like to know what your oppion is both from providers and hobbyists alike.
-- Modified on 5/10/2007 9:44:50 AM
I have a lot of ladies wait until the end of the date for payment, but I tend to stay around ladies I know, who know I won't run off. Recently, while travelling I was back in the pay up front world and it caught me off guard for a sec. Then I remembered that it's the norm.
Once, my regular provider suggested that I pay at the end of the session, but i forgot to pay so I pay her the next day.
Not anymore. It's easier to remember if I pay up front.
-- Modified on 5/10/2007 11:02:40 AM
Price is set before. You take your chances ( always using TER). Never would I think of haggling the price after a service has been delivered. Or would anyone with an once of integrity even think of running out on a lady. My daddy ALWAYS taught me to be a gentleman as well as honest.
The FIRST thing I do when I enter the room is to leave the donation (in an unsealed white envelope) on her desk, table, nightstand...depending on the room set-up. I make sure she sees me doing this. You have now eliminated any doubt in the ladies mind that you are going to pay for the session. There is NOTHING a provider dreads more than having to ask a gentleman for the donation. If you just leave it at the start, you have gotten the business aspect out of the way and you can proceed to the fun part. I think this is especially important on a first visit where the provider has no idea as to your character. Believe me if business is not taken care of at the start, both the provider and hobbyist will be thinking of the donation at some point during their time together.
I also think that bartering in this business is A DEFINITE NO. If you are not satisfied with the session, too bad. Live and learn and don’t see the lady again. Look we've all had the sessions where there minimal services offered (No LFK, no BJ's and plain boring mish, etc.) In those instances while I was completely dissatisfied, I still paid the full fee without question or hesitation. The time to walk away from the session is at the start (i.e. if you feel she has misrepresented herself physically). Once you engage the lady in a session, you are obligated to pay the amount. If you can’t afford the session, book someone else.
The two ladies you are seeing who ask for the donations at the end are way too trustworthy. I know they prob. want to make the session seem like a date more than a business transaction but eventually it will come back to burn them. They will eventually run into gentlemen who refuse or forget to pay or complain about the session and want a discount. The donation should be paid at the start.
-- Modified on 5/10/2007 1:02:04 PM
Trying to barter after what you say was a bad session shows a strong lack of class.
You agree to a specific rate for a specific time.
Hardy has it right.
Deliver the donation immediately, and let the fun begin.
Just my opinion...
B
I agree.If I've never seen the lady before I always put the donation on the night stand or such and let her see me do it.Then I politely excuse myself to the restroom so she can verify the contents if she wishes, without having to do so in front of me.It's a little different when you are with your ATF or someone you see on a regular basis.Sometime you barely get in the door and she's all over you!!
I can see where your getting at. My work requires me to collect all money upfront before I proceed any further. I can understand maybe if I have seen the provider many times and she trusts me. I can also understand about bartering is bad, and I have walked away from the door. But, also, when I talk to my therapist, I don't hand over the money until the session is over with. I just like everyone's views on this subject.
Agree whole-heartedly. When I enter the incall, I look for the first place I see to leave the donation in an unsealed, white envelope. Then I do it. I have never tried to barter for services. Like Hardy said, if session was not what you expected, don't go back, but pay for the time you used.
Swim
I always do outcall, being a traveler. I put my donation in an envelope, in the bathroom of my hotel room. This allows the provider to open the envelope and inspect the contents in privacy. That way, neither of us have to talk about the money issue.
This, of course, is based on the theory that most providers will step into the bathroom to freshen up soon after they get to my room. Or at least use the bathroom sometime during their visit.
As for bargaining after the session, I have never done it, and don't plan to ever consider it.
-- Modified on 5/10/2007 4:55:20 PM
You have a provider or ATF you see a lot, you two are very comfortable with one another, essentially things are good. Anyhow, does anybody at any time just pull the cash out of their pocket or wallet and hand it to them either before or after the session? Or is it always white envelope sitting in an obvious spot?
anything else shows a total lack of class and is demeaning and insulting to the lady.Just my opinion...
B
I place the envelope on the table next to the sofa and put my phone and keys on top. When I leave, I pick up the keys and phone and am on my way with a big smile on my face.