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Ladies...if you could review the Hobbyists.....
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What would they read like.........  

What's the worst review you have to share...no names of course but I think it would be interesting.  

Hobbyists have the ability to share their horror stories but we rarely hear about yours....we're all ears.



Good review.
MR D.xxx
Stats
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Rating…. 10
Looks …..8
I forget it was a service.
Mr XX came to my location on time cleanly freshly showered ,shaved and smelling good.
As he presented me with a wish list gift and a kiss on the check I thought wow this  guy ACTUALLY READ my web site. After some cheat  chat he got comfortable for his massage ,man what a body on this one balls so big you  couldn’t  even  fit one in your hand. Need I say more. Never once did I have to ask  Get off my hair.!!
When it was over  I collected  envelope and found a $50. Tip.  If you get a chance to see this one GO for it he’s a keeper.



MR ZZZ
Stats
Stats
Rating 5
Looks 5
OMG never again

He walks in looking  like he just came down from the mountain, states  he was goona bring a bottle o wine but the Conner store an’t got Ripple. Tells me he was going to cancel But the other lady he wanted to see  couldn’t make it. Washes up at the sink  gets comfy for massage  and  the BO nearly knocked me out.
When it was over (TG) collected envelope  and it was 50. Short.
I wouldn’t see this one again  If I were dying and he was my last breath. Stay away from this and double book if you can.

Now mind you this is all Hypothetical I have not had either case scenario.


Funny post Livie, even though it is a little dreadful to contemplate.

One question though, Why did you give Mr. ZZZ a 5/5 score?!?  He sounds absolutely hideous.  Wouldn't a 2/2 kind of score be more apt?

Maybe people are generally too nice to actually express their true feelings when the person in question can see the feedback?


a HOBBIES’ way of being fare and objective. ha ha ha ha  lol

Thanks for the good idea, and it's been tossed around a few times but to no avail.

Remember, you're a hobbyist. This is our business. Do you really want us to commit marketing suicide 101? :)



Hugs,
Ciara

-- Modified on 11/13/2008 3:35:35 PM

Chicken.

I can see that POV but I don't see it as marketing suicide....instead I'd rather hear about some of the gross things some guys do so I don't do it myself and I'd be willing to bet most guys would want to hear it in this sort of fashion rather than an actual review of themselves.

I would much rather read about someone else doing it than to actually BE that guy that does it....so instead of suicide you should look at it as making the world a better place for provider and hobbyist alike.

Read the one above...I thought it was cute and funny...but I can see your POV.

…1st too many guys don’t read our  web sites in the 1st place.
2 nd
When A guy writes many nit picky negative  reviews ,it tends to make him  look as thought he is never satisfied.   As a provider  that can be stressful, but we see you any way and do our best and let it go. How many guys can deal with that kind of critazissume of there quirks or bad habits?

She was speaking hypothetically. If I told you some real stories and those gentlemen were reading TER, what in the world do you think they would do, hon? It's not that easy. But I enjoyed reading the fictional stuff from Livie. Honestly, I just didn't have the time or energy to post about fictional reviews of clients. I've posted quite a bit of information today, so I'm a little burned out. But if I ever see you, you'll be the first I review. ;)


Hugs,
Ciara

-- Modified on 11/13/2008 5:00:45 PM

You mean that wasn't a real story?  

Duh.

I didn't mean to jack anyone up....if it's verboten then no biggie.

And no where did it state that you would want a fake review. Didn't you see my smiley faced icons. Geez!  Now go and get a drink and come back for your spanking. Yummy! ;)

Hugs,
Ciara

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might read. Any ladies that I've seen, feel free to....Nah....Nevermind.

The way the ladies treat us is our review. I find that my favorite ladies always have time to see me. They great me warmly and openly. They seem comfortable with me. They allow themselves to enjoy our time together. They communicate with me frequently between visits. Ok, I'm not hung, I'm not young, and I ain't GQ material. But I think that the ladies treat you in this way when you've gotten good marks with them.....

This is still a business and -- although we may like a lot of our gentlemen callers -- we still have to be professional and courteous. Granted, there are some that I don't go overboard with, but I really try not to treat one client any different than another. Some I may be more attracted to and I may tell them, but I'm still nice to everyone who walks through my door. I really don't think someone could tell the difference with me, and that's how it should be, unless he's rude or just scarey. Let's keep it real! ;)


Hugs,
Ciara

is that if the lady continues to make time to see us, we pass. If she does not, there just may be a reason...



-- Modified on 11/13/2008 5:51:11 PM

now that I've clarified your point as I understand it, and referring back to your message at the beginning of this sub thread titled I agree, but not to burst your bubble or anything . . .

under that scheme of things, why try to be a top notch client? ie -

why try to be on time
why leave on time
why be clean and well groomed
why be gentlemanly
why not be invasive, possessive, etc
why be appreciative and kind
why be responsive to the lady's communication about her needs
why make any effort to give pleasure
why write reviews that are fair to the provider
why tip or give gifts or be generous
why buy into the whole GFE thing, the whole
idea of the connection being what it's all about

why do or be all of the things that it I constantly read here that providers value in a client, etc etc etc etc

if the guys who *don't* are going to be treated the same as the guys who do? if these qualities are in fact not appreciated, not rewarded.

In that case, perhaps some of the cynics, the guys who write unlovely reviews and treat the ladies like objects are right after all. Tail is tail - get it and move on. Just have fun. Don't sweat the details. Don't make an effort. After all, the client is paying..... who cares if the lady likes you or not.


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-- Modified on 11/13/2008 8:11:48 PM

WOW This really surprises me coming from you. What little I know that is (wink) Cheers livie
See my review on MR ZZZ lol

that is where the argument referred to above leads as a matter of logical inference. It's a legitimate question. One which potential clients on this board have asked about and speculated about, and about which there are different opinions.

It is a total waste of time on the part of providers to ask for proper treatment and respect, to try to educate the newbies, to try to raise the behavior level of clients, and then basically say that a client will be treated the same way whether they make the effort or not.

There have been quite a few posts lately from providers that are damaging to the illusion that ladies in the GFE segment of the industry try to create and sustain in order to justify the "mark up" in cost for a GFE experience.

Clients do not want to be reminded that it is a business even though it is and the experienced among us handle the business end professionally  (and the other end competently hopefully) ';-) but do not let this consideration affect our time with a lady.

If all I want is to get off - just have my fun and forget about it, just plain tail is *really* cheap now.

The GFE experience "costs" a good deal more. Why "pay" the surcharge if the ladies are not going to play by the GFE "rules", uphold the GFE expectations?

GFE:
It's not just about having sex.
it's not just about having a good time
It's about building a connection
it's about being the only man in her world for
   a few hours at a time of mutual convenience
   and never being reminded otherwise
it's about developing "relationships" of a sort,
   that translate into the girlfriend illusion
   for the client and a steady income stream for
   the GFE provider
compensation is just a minor detail to be handled
   discreetly and with aplomb and immediately
   forgotten

Now, I know who I am and what I'm about.

And, I know where I stand with my ATFs.

Reviews? heck - my ATFs don't even participate, don't even look at them. Two are not even members here or at any other "review" site. Write one if you want, they don't care. They provide a GFE experience that will keep you coming back. They do this at a high donation level. They are low volume, and rely on building regular relationships.

When I was recently in the hospital for a few days, two dropped in on me to make sure I was being taken care of ';-). When I recently found out about the passing of a former lover, one took me "off the clock" for the weekend to lift my spirits. Another I now cohabit with. We're still debating the issue of compensation...

So, I really don't need to build any new relationships in this sport. I'm happy with the ones I have. So perhaps I should just ignore these posts - they don't affect me and there is no reason I should care. But I remain amazed that on the one hand providers use this board to ask for the respect and courtesy that they deserve and on the other give as many reasons that undermine their argument.....

Not much to add here...well thought out...well written...absolutely correct.

K

G12,

You're pointing out that Providers commonly post that they especially appreciate clients that:
Spend extra attention to hygene.
Pay attention to a timely arrival and don't overstay their visit.
Are considerate at all times.
Are engaging both in conversation and when not speaking.
Discreetly leave the donation and pay in full.
Bring a gift or leave a tip.
Send a follow-up email saying thanks for a great time.

Then, you are seeing the discrepancy when providers respond to threads like this by saying, "We try to treat all clients the same unless they are absolutely horrible."

The question becomes, "Why bother with all those nice little touches that they said they like if I am going to get the same treatment as all the other non-horrible clients?"

Two answers:
1.  In my experience, you don't really get the same treatment if you are trying to go a little above and beyond the basics.  Granted, I don't think I have ever actually ventured into the "Horrible Client" realm to see if there really is a difference (tough to pull off without some kind of blind control measure anyway).  On the other hand, I have seen the difference between a provider going through the motions and one that actually (or through believable facsimile) is having a good time.  to me it is a great filter for whether I will consider a repeat visit or not.

2.  The main reason I do try to be a better than average client is that it makes me feel better.  I enjoy being thoughtful (most of the time, ask my ex-GFs for other true horror stories ;) ).  I think the positive vibe can consciously and sub-consiously impact the entire session and future repeat visits.  I feel good.  She feels good.  We both feel good together.

We are all participating in this fantasy business from one side or the other.  Just do what feels good for you.  I'm sure that you will continue to enjoy your experiences and most probably will be near the top of providers' mental "preferred client" list.

a challenge to some of the ladies here that want it both ways -

I know my favs appreciate me. They show it all the time in many ways.

But we are treated to a lot of conflicting posts by some of the very active posters among the providers:

Oh I don't care how a guy looks it's the connection
but let's talk about hot guys...

I don't care about size, its the technique
but let's talk about size

I love a good gentlemanly client
but don't think it really means anything to me - I treat everybody the same.

I really want to be respected and treated like a lady
but I'll show just as good a time to the jerks.

I actually don't care - I've got my hobbying life in order and set up the way I want it.

But hobbyists are frequently accused of wanting it both ways to the annoyance of the providers.
And newbies are rightly frustrated and confused at times.

I just think the providers should step back and look at the impressions created by their conflicting and mutually negating posts...

Very seldom do I post with an angry face, but this deserves it. Ladies get paid to see you, whether you're good looking or not. That doesn't mean they don't enjoy their time with you, so don't belittle ladies who -- when asked by a hobbyist on this board -- say, "Of course it's a bonus to get a really good-looking guy." They also back that up with, "But looks are not important when it comes to lovemaking. Some of the best lovers were not good-looking guys." Now, you're busting them out for answering simple questions on the board. You mean we can't be honest? HMMMMMM

We have feelings, too. I would never see a client that didn't treat me right. I never said that. You are twisting my words. You should be glad that I am professional and treat all of my clients great!  I've never had a complaint yet. In fact, all of them said how much I spoil them. Have I given extra time and compliments to those I really like?  Of course, but can I say their names on a board without being crucified? No. That's all. You're trying to make me into a bad person. Shame on you! :(

No hugs to you right now,
Ciara

-- Modified on 11/14/2008 9:48:18 AM

I'm very surprised that you twisted my message around like that. I expected a lot more from you.

I did not state anything about not giving a great GFE experience. I did not state I do not enjoy it. I did not state that bad guys are treated the same. I was merely trying to say that being clean, being respectful -- all those things you mentioned about being a good client -- is great but it doesn't mean you should think we get a boat load of bad clients that we treat the same way. On the contrary, I wouldn't give my time to someone who was the opposite of you, because you seem like the type of client I'd like to meet.

You, my dear, have turned it into an ugly post. I simple stated to try not to interpret too much and have fun (with a smiley icon). Sometimes we do need reminders that you guys WILL PROBABLY NEVER MARRY US, nor do you want to, so let's put it into perspective, okay? YOU PAY US so you can go away afterward, hopefully feeling great, without the commitment.

Geez! Some want to hear the truth and constantly ask us questions about this business on this board, but then you don't want to hear the most realistic answer there is: We have fun but it is a business. How many of your ATF's would be seeing you if you didn't pay them? If every guy I liked in this business wanted to see me for free, I'd never make any money. That may sound harsh but it's the truth. So, I say keep telling the newbies about your great experiences and how they should treat ladies, but no one likes someone who is being arrogant and how all the ladies love him. Now, don't misconstrue that either. I think -- or at least I thought -- you to be a nice gentlemen, and I'd love to meet you. But I also want to bring you back down to earth. Sorry I busted your bubble and was truthful. I won't do it again, as I realize how sensitive you are now.

Hugs,
Ciara



-- Modified on 11/14/2008 9:38:07 AM

of the question.  As I said elsewhere, don't go all ad hominem on me.

It is a fact that providers and clients see things from a different angle.

It may be true that I would not marry you - I don't know - you sound like fun and every marriage should be spiced with the occasional argument.

I was sitting here enjoying the conversation - it really sounds like you are the sensitive one....
so if I've hurt your feelings I apologize.

Gregory

The point is: I didn't need your sarcastic point of view. You obviously were hurt by what I said. Admit it. I'd respect you more for it.

However, I accept your apology, and I apologize to you if I offended you, but I really don't see how I offended you by saying that I treat all of my clients well. Reread my post. You are the one being sensitive. Be honest and don't try to make me look like the oversensitive little girl in this case. That's annoying to me and other intelligent women. I'm just the type to stand up for myself and others, so get used to it.

Now, come here for your spanking. You deserve it! ;)


Hugs,
Ciara




-- Modified on 11/14/2008 9:57:29 AM

I'll take that spanking from you anytime. Barehanded please. Oh! - but not a whack for each year of our respective ages - that would not be fair....

-- Modified on 11/14/2008 10:11:56 AM

You're being silly now! First, I do appreciate the good clients.

Second, I don't reward bad clients. I turn them away or never see them again, and they certainly won't get references from me.

Now, why be so hostile? I think I hit a nervie. Perhaps you want more out of this hobby than you proclaim. It's hard to hear the truth sometimes, but it doesn't mean we still cannot have a great time together. As you reminded me of in another post, this is why you're not married. Am I right? I'm merely pointing out that some do get carried away in this hobby and need to be reminded that -- although WE DO appreciate your business and WE DO consider some as friends -- it is still a business. In fact, I was leery even posting that, but I think most hobbyists understand what I'm saying. That's all!  :(

Hugs,
Ciara

I don't mean this as a hostile reaction to you in any way - I think you're delish.

However.....

The thread starting with your response to me part left me with some philosophical questions here....

Personally, I am not invested in this - my relationships (of a sort) are all set up to my satisfaction. I know where I stand with my SO and my favs. If anything, I am the one to want or expect little or nothing outside of the moment, and to flee if it gets gooey...

However,

You have to admit that there have been some very
interesting contrasts lately in posts that some of the providers here have made, including yourself.  These have been spelled out in my posts.

The gents have been rightly criticized about wanting it both ways.

What about the ladies? Hmmm.

Judging by my PMs, I think that I hit the nerve....

Don't take it personally - this is after all our first "tiff" - we'll get over it ';-)

All my best

Gregory

I am professional, and you my dear man did make it personal. What a joke!

Ciara - no condescension is intended.

I will lay off and allow you to attack my post all you want. Say anything bad about me you want. Assassinate my character to your hearts content. Flood this thread with ad hominem and drown out the point I was making.

But I still don't see anyone answering the argument....

I won't "defend" myself. I will allow the readers to judge the merits or lack thereof regarding my argument. I'll take my lumps if I'm due.

However, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. I've seen you attack quite a few posts here....  if we're going to participate on these boards we've got to be able to take it as well as give it. I've certainly taken my lumps......

this may just be a genuine disagreement caused by differences in perspective. It is also possible that I misunderstood the intention of your post - electronic communication is tough.

At the end of the day, I will still respect you personally regardless of your opinion. The same in return would be nice....

Gregory

Don't say, "Say anything bad about me you want. Assassinate my character to your hearts content. Flood this thread with ad hominem and drown out the point I was making."  

Gee! Now that sounds really nice, eh? Who was assassinating whose character? This is ridiculous and doesn't deserve any more of my time.

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aim any invective at you..... did not mention you by name in any place attached to my posts.....

Ok, I said I would not defend myself anymore and I fibbed. Now I'll back off.....

I bet the lurkers are enjoying this!

3500 hobbyists at any given time wondering if she meant him when she wrote:


General Details:

Standard 8 call system with the 'are you ready yet' 'can I come up early' 'are you ready yet' 'did you forget about me'.  Gave him the room number and let him in. Short, kind of dumpy guy sweating heavily.  He puts the envelope down and starts pawing me right out of the gate. VIPs read on, but all in all, not a bad guy.

Juicy Details:

Had him wash his stinky self and use some mouthwash.  Laid on the bed waiting for him to come out.  Nice enough guy, tried DFK, seemed like he wanted to lick my tonsils, but nothing gross. He started kissing my neck and kind of huffing in my ears while grabbing my breasts. Gave him the 'oh yeah, baby, just like that,' which seemed to make him happy.

I reached down and started getting him hard, while his panting got heavier.  Made my way down for the BBBJ, which went OK until he grabbed my ears and hair, but I pried his fingers off.  He gave me the 'hey baby, come on over here and let me return the favor'  I laid back and he started licking me everywhere but where it matters.  Let him get tired, then put the cover on and did my favorite CG until he kind of quivered a little and made this funny kind of noise.  I tried to match the noise, and he seemed to buy it, because he asked me if it was a good O for me.  Made some small talk while he cleaned up and got dressed.

Overall standard score of a 6 / 6.  Didn't short me and was out a little early.  Would repeat.


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The fact that a lady wants to see you again should be considered a good review.  I've heard enough horror stories from my favs about the guys on their "do not see" lists to realize how easy it is to wind up on the outside looking in.

The fact is most providers won't get involved in constructive criticism.  They just won't respond to your inquiries anymore.



-- Modified on 11/13/2008 5:24:44 PM

As in way to DRY These are good topics as long as you realize this is all fantasy Right?!
I mean if you take some of this stuff to heart 2 things can happen. 1 you could end up not liking providers or 2 you could end up  not liking your self. If you can truly be honest with your self then you very well may end up learning something. (wink)  Livie.



-- Modified on 11/13/2008 5:16:05 PM

when you've donated for 2hrs and the lady regularly spends 2.5 or 3 or more with you, she probably likes you as a client - you're doing something right.

Ditto when she always has time for you on a day or two's notice even though she's got quite a following and is low volume

Ditto when she gives you references and the ladies who receive the references comment on the good things they've heard about you.

Etc Etc

There are a lot of clues and cues there to be read. This is the same as anything else in life.

I'm not talking about forming an obsession here or constantly second guessing yourself.

And my experience is that you are right about providers and constructive criticism - I suppose they don't want to risk a business relationship with a client by deflating his ego.

One of my true favs - she will tell me right up front. Straight up. Do it right or don't do it, I like it this way, I don't like it that way. I love it. And it improves the experience for both of us.



-- Modified on 11/14/2008 6:55:46 AM

Sorry but you are speaking about one providers post And taking it out of context and speaking for all . I for one treat people as they treat me. Nothing more nothing les. If you are a Jack ass I will try to let you know that is not the way to treat me if you continue then simply put ….You get out what you out in =. So please don’t put me in a category were no (one) man or person matters because you are all one in the same.. I don’t see it that way.

It was on another local board. It was actually pretty funny. She is my ATF and I guess it was an ok review because she did see me again!

she made you see yourself in a truthful yet negative light. As in not what she would call Attractive? We ladies are constantly being made aware of our looks alone. And even for some of the most of beautiful of  escorts that can be just as damming as not.  BC then all she is, is a pretty face. It's a lot to have be able to handle and stay in this business and keep you own standers high.

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I feel like if I don't get enough sleep, if I don't wear the right makeup, if I don't do this or that sometimes I will be reviewed badly. I like to have fun -- period. But, unfortunately, the review process has also made it difficult for women to just relax and have fun and not worry about anything. You guys started it. ;)
There is a lot of pressure on us. Sometimes I just want to retire, and other times I like it.

Hugs,
Ciara

Judging by your reviews....it looks like you've got it figured out and then some.

We're just putty in your hands.

I realize that providing is a business, a livelihood.

I realize that reviews can affect that business.

However,

most clients who use a review site do not just look at one review, many do not go by the numbers per se at all, but rather by the content of the reviews, what the overall narrative says about a particular lady, and certainly by what the review history suggests overall.

Now there are some guys who are very critical in writing reviews - even mean. But - those of us who read the reviews can pick up on that and discount it. And I for one have never done  a search looking for providers with a certain average "score".

I realize that a provider may rightly feel under pressure to perform. It can rightly be said to be an entertainment industry. And, I sure would not want to be reviewed.

That having been said, the whole thing would be more enjoyable for both client and provider if it were not taken that seriously. I am sure that I am not alone in taking a major portion of the pleasure from an experience with a provider from her own enjoyment of our time together.

If the existing review system is diminishing the potential for providers, making it a struggle, reducing it to performance art, and trashing the whole gfe idea, perhaps we should ditch it in favor of the pass / fail system suggested in your response to another of my posts regarding how providers see clients.

Pass - not a rip off, pics are legit, services claimed on website provided at rates listed on website. On time or close to it. Does not short on time. Has a history of passing therefor not assumed to be LE.

Fail - everything else











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Not true...
Because you guys don’t read our web sites how would you know if we are (dare I say any good) but you will read the juicy details this is just a matter of how men function internally . You want to see beautiful woman you want to sleep with them  but they only thing you want read is how  much..

Now please don’t get me wrong I am NOT speaking for all men I’m speaking  of my own experience in life as well as  in hobby land. The  Fact is that you men want the reviews and if a lady gets enough  negative reviews  It makes here life harder can in fact run her out of town. I know you all know this to be true.

Even if you did away with the reviews at some point they would be back It’s  the nature of the  beast (Love the beast)  To  want shout his conquest from the roof top-.  So the question again is do you (Men) really think you can handle it?  

no issue there. And you're snapshot definitely does not describe me, or many of the hobbyists I've come to know on these boards.

There are ladies in this biz that don't pay any attention to the reviews - some of whom do not even belong to a review website, and have a dedicated following. Two of my favs in fact.

I am glad I have not lived your experience - it sounds quite depressing....

It's easy for you to say that one review will not affect us. That's not true. You are not in our shoes. Let's review you! Oh, that's right! You don't want to be reviewed. Do you really think the majority of us do if it's a not-so-good review? Now think about it and be objective. I think a lot of hobbyists try to interpret this business and think their suggestions are helpful (and some are), but I think we know our business better than anyone. Just because your ATFs do things a certain way or are not reviewed, etc., does not mean it's right for everyone. I've been in business a long time, hon, and I know what works for me. A bad review reflects as bad . . . period.  ;)

Hugs,
Ciara

-- Modified on 11/14/2008 10:14:13 AM

And I would not mind if you put the review up on the board. I would cringe of course, maybe be devastated, but fair is fair. My SO and favs would really love it - they'd be rolling on the floor laughing. Well, it has been my experience that making a woman laugh is one of the keys to her heart after all.....

What makes you think you'll automatically get a bad review from me? One might think you are insecure. I know, reviews can be good or an awful thing.  I still think it's degrading to judge a woman with numbers by her looks and performance. Why the stupid number system? Believe me when I say the majority of women hate it! You said yourself that you'd be devastated by it. So, give us some credit and some leeway. This business can be fun but it's also very tough at times -- harder than anything you'll ever understand until you try it. ;)





-- Modified on 11/14/2008 10:21:50 AM

and at closer to 60 than 50, I do not look like a GQ poster boy anymore. Well, I never did, really. So I have to depend on my charm and wit and the fact that you don't get to be my age without having learned something useful ';-)  

Actually the main reason that the ladies that know me would be rolling on the floor because I am so dignified in person.  And I am, shall we say, self confident?  They'd love to see me taken down a peg.....

Believe me, we think about how we're going to get reviewed a lot. It sometimes takes away from the real thing. But, I enjoy myself anyway. ;)

Ok, I can be an a*s sometimes. Funny thing is that the people who matter like me anyway.

I am truly bummed that the review system is that big a factor. It has its benefits to the hobbyist I suppose, but I'd trade knowing a lady's scores for having a relaxed and genuine and non pressured time with her any day..... all I want to know is that I'm not walking into a LE sting or a rip off or a bait and switch.

When I decide to write reviews for a lady, I write them for her benefit, to showcase the positives, not to nitpick her for the putative benefit of the "hobbyist" community. I can do this precisely because I've been able to effectively "screen" ladies using the review system. If you read my reviews you will find two specific cases where I pointed out important deficiencies without trashing the lady. Hey - some of the guys here are fun. I've gotten to know a couple in "real" life. But it's not like I want to sleep with them! I know where my bread is buttered....

So - have I finessed my way back into hug time?



-- Modified on 11/14/2008 4:34:31 PM

I am the first to admit when I'm wrong, so I guess I don't take it very well when someone cannot apologize or mutilates my words.

However, you have apologized, and I also apologize for being outspoken. Some like it and some (whose names I won't say) hate it! That's their problem, right? They've never met me and it's their loss. ;)


Hugs,
Ciara


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I present my portrait of a lady.....  so yes, I understand that reviews are important. I review far less than half of the ladies I see - If I can't say something positive I usually don't say it. That's not to say that I "cheat" - I'm just selective w/r/t who I review and what I emphasize.....

And, due to the care with which I have used the TER rating system (!) I have not met up with a bait and switch, a rob, or anything bad. if I had I would have posted the review to warn others...

My point was, how miserable it must be to feel under the scrutiny of the entire reviewing community every time you date someone?

There are however ladies on TER who have expressed that they just don't worry about it that much.  

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But it's not my business to think about other ladies' reviews. We all have different viewpoints, but they also might tell you that they don't care, until they get a really bad review -- or a fake review.

Ya  Know G 12 your post seems to be exactly the double edge sword you intend. On one hand you say it must be  Miserable for us and on the other you say you wont write a bad review.

(why) A.b/c you know you can do damage? Or B. you don't want look bad. Doesn’t matter because, well 1st of all we are by no means you average ordinary women. (Hear me Roar) lol. We are strong self supportive self sufficient intelligent and  educated. We don't need the approval of men to determine our self worth. (Isn’t that why you see us? )

We Need them to build a business. Although mean comments do hurt we preserver and surpass, simply put we move on. Because we know better and we know better IS out there.

He showed up at my hotel and we started out with a little chat. He seemed quite the Southern Gentleman in his late 50's early 60's. I was a newbie..prob just a few months into it.
We undressed and I laid on the bed and he started to daty. After a bit we switched so I could please him. I could not visually find his penis but I could smell URINE. Alot of it. So strong I could not breathe. I tried very hard to continue but decided to tell him I could not finish. Because I was such a newbie..I was unsure of what to do. He of course was adamant about letting me know "This had never happened to him before"
I really didn't know what to say. I didn't want to say you stink like piss. I was just quiet and apologetic. Then he got up and got dressed and asked me how much did I think i should get paid? There goes my opinion of the Southern Gentleman. He left me a 20.


OMG SC.....you deserve a medal!!!!
That's way gross!

I started something with my ATF who does not frequent TER. We write reviews of eachother just to send to eachother personally via email.
It's been fun and a real turn on for me.
Here was one of her first reviews of me.
Ladys pay attention... you might want to book an appointment with me. :-)

Well my meeting with KM for the 3rd time (WOW - how flattering) was much sweeter this time around. I feel SO comfortable with him like a real boyfriend experience for me. PLUS I love the fact that whenever he sees me he is very turned on and appreciative of the time I spend preparing for our "date". I always take care of myself from head to toe so his 'lust' for me is so nice to see. Of course when he walks in and I see that great big smile and his kind gentle eyes I know we are going to have a real nice time together. Its just so easy with KM....

Once we relax and ease into it - the real fun begins. First of all KM always books 2 hours with me AND is a great kisser and very fun to cuddle with. He also loves to be sucked and I do it with great pleasure moving back and forth with my mouth and hand to give him the right amount of pleasure in a slow methodical way and then building up the speed faster and faster as I go - always looking up to him with my big brown eyes to see if he's watching me. That always makes me feel good inside to see his enjoyment TOTALLY showing on his face. I love it when he makes noise and moans here and there as I go about my business. Then he always returns the favor by eating me out so well!!! He has brought me to a climax a couple of times now just by licking my clit with his tongue for quite some time - making me squirm around with pleasure. I ALWAYS want him to fuck me by then!!! I am practically begging him to put that amazing penis inside me after getting me all wet. So then he usually does me in many different positions and all of them are good. He can go a really long time and loves pinning me down and poounding me from on top - although doggie style is one of my favorites. My face being pushed down in the pillows with my ass way up in the air is my favorite place to be. He gets really creative too with his leg positioning! Then finally - after a real long time of pounding my sweet little pussy he cums and moans out loud in pleasure. I love hearing that final sound of climax - such a turn on.

Then sadly - our time is always up and we must part - but not without more cuddling and laughs. He is SUCH a sweet, easy going guy with a fun sense of humor. Its not really work at all - its always such a pleasure to spend my time with him! I wish everyone was more like KM. My very special date.....

Sorry I'll get bact to it,.... Simply puy ya can't have good with out bad.

as long as the provider graded appearance  on a bit of a curve for age. Or if my charm and wit were factored in - let's be honest, our impression of a lady becomes part of her "appearance" score, and many of us older gents who prefer the more mature ladies grade them differently on appearance than a 20 year old would. So, fair is fair.....

Performance wise, I have the knowledge and confidence that comes from experience. Not every guy hits it just right with every lady, and perhaps not every time. So I might get the occasional 6 for performance but there would be enough 8s and the occasional 9 to balance it out.

And frankly, I'd take a 7/7-8 and be happy with it every time. As long as the lady did not make too much fun of my wobbly bits, balding head and middle aged spread in her review.....

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Okay: stories (I can tell these because I know these men don't post and it was several years ago).

1)  Guy wants me to pee in his mouth. This is
  more common than you think.

2)  Several guys pee on my floor and don't clean
  it up.

3)  One guy got off by peeing on a lamp shade
  (or so another reputable provider told me)

4)  One guy tried to aim for the ceiling with
  his cum, while singing "Mary Had A Little
  Lamb"  -- no kidding!

5)  One guy had me dress up like a man with
  fuck-me pumps on. Even had me glue a
  mustache on. Hey! Everyone is different.

6)  A few have told me how bad I was of a lady
  while they're girlfriends were saints.

7)  One guy didn't pay me, while working for
  an agency, so I left immediately (after
  giving him what he wanted, of course). He
  had his friends try to attack me while I was
  leaving (only really bad experience I've had)
  but he didn't know I had a knife in the car
  with me or that I was a martial artist. Need
  I say more? I still had to pay the agency
  fee, too. Yes! Bad things happen in this
  business. Fortunately, I've only had a few
  bad experiences like these, so it's hard for
  me to take critiquing about our business from
  a hobbyist's point of view. I mean: How
  could a guy really know what sometimes  
  happens in our businesses. Get it! :)

8)  I've had a few crossdressers, but I have to
  say they've been some of the nicest clients,
  and I enjoyed doing their makeup.

9)  One wanted to burn candle wax on me and then
  give me a massage. Now, granted, it would
  have been okay but the wax was too hot and he
  wanted me to be in pain. Yikes!

10)  Too many other things to tell, but you get
  the picture. We should not review men. It
  would definitely be suicide for some (but
  not all).  ;)

Some good things have come out of providing:

1)  I see past the looks now and into the soul.
2)  I'm a better lover (or I hope).
3)  I don't need to go to a bar to get layed. ;)


Hugs,
Ciara








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