I'm just curious:

I was in New York a few months back and met with a provider.  She did not tell me anything about kissing, but being the careful respectful person I am I only kissed her on the cheek during missionary, but she got pissed off and wiped her face with her hand like I had just put a booger on her face or something.  Now, I am a very clean person, brush my teeth 3 times a day, always take great care in my personal hygiene, and I am not the elephant man, so it was not anything like that, it was just the fact that I had kissed her on the cheek that really disgusted her.  Now this made me more confused after she allowed a bbbj...


Then, I met with a provider two months ago who absolutely refused to kiss and didnt even allow a kiss on the cheek, but again allowed bbbj...and the second time I saw her she wanted me to see me on the side and no donation...she was really into me, we spend a few nights together, but all through the sex, she refused to kiss, but happily obliged bbbj...

Please someone help me figure this out...what is the philosophy women have about kissing, when many times they allow bbbj, but will not kiss...If a girl is willing to have your mr.happy in her mouth, why wont she allow kisses?

Again, this doesnt apply to all providers, but I have met many who are like this...???

Some may have a thing about DFK. Due to things you can transfer via saliva. But a peck on the cheek....and that reaction....odd.

I agree.  If both the woman and man are clean etc., kissing is so great, hot, mmmm, luv it.  By the way are you THE "jaiwithani" ?  Your pics are very nice, by the way.

The providers who will give BBBJ and refuse to kiss are just plain f*%ked up in the head. More than likely they have watched the foolish movie "Pretty Woman" too many times. Kissing is very safe and just another expression of sensuality. The "little immature girls " who are disgusted by it don't know how to kiss anyway, so you aren't missing much. They will be either like kissing a mannequin, or the other extreme.. a washing machine The "headturners'" are really just plain insulting to me. (yes, I'm clean and not some ugly abnoxious troll either, very tender and romantic)I understand YMMV but those with a hard and fast rule against it just don't belong in this business IMHO.

Rule #1: No affection, no date. I'll have a better time staying at home with some porn flick and save a lot of money too.

I can't know what the various ladies are thinking, but I don't know if it has anything to do with safety... Kissing is extremely intimate. I'm far more touched (and aroused) by a kiss than any BJ, regardless of the lady's technique.

And that's even through the paper bag that they all insist I wear on my head during the session.

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You too, i thought it was just me!

At least they don't insist on a plastic bag

Speak for yourself.  they always insist on plastic with me!  vsometimes two!

Let's face it, far too many guys do not screen the ladies they want to see, either through reviews, word of mouth, or just asking some subtle questions. If you are seeing a lady based on her "hot" photos only and no intel., then, in many cases, you'd done better throwing your hard earned cash on the interstate. If you require that a lady provide a certain service for your money and gives you all the rules that don't meet your needs, don't see her. Politely, pay a small fee for the trouble and leave. That takes a little dick discipline and I am sure we've all let the little guy thwart our exit.

When you fall prey to these airbrushed dreams or do not write reviews that explain the eccentricities of your trysts to make for an informed public, then you are enabling the provider to advertise or tease her way to making money that she really doesn't deserve based on the "teaser" ads she writes. I happen to think that ladies who put these silly limitiations on their sessions, don't last long anyway and are typically in it for a quick buck and really are not committed to this business and while some of these ladies elude our questions, many more get "outed" and change names or cities only to be outed again and again. You can read their ads and find clues as to what they are about.

Now the hypocracy of not kissing, but allowing DATY and performing BBBJ is just plain old nuts. "Germs" can enter in through any oriface, cut, or a simple breakage in the skin. Ever notice that none of the appliances, creams, and lubes ever come with any guarantees? Sure, they lessen the likelihood of certain contracting the disease, and its better to cover up than live with a bad germ or have one chasing you until he catches you.

Then there are the ladies who tell you up front, everything covered and no kissing and we still think we are going to talk them into something. Sure it happens and over time if you see a provider a few times, the rules may get relaxed, but don't count on it. Just hump here and leave and write an unembellished review.

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and obvious experince. Kissing isn't any safer then a bbbj. Mono alone can stay with you for a few months or for life, and cause chronic fatigue. There is herpes, colds, flus, parasites, infections, yeast, and may other lovely things that can be passed by kissing/saliva. All of which you can the pass on. I won't go on and gross you out. Yes, there is a long standard of not kissing. I'm sure their is a strong intimacy factor for some providers as well. This Always come up at least once a month. But if you do your reading you will see that the human mouth is extremely dirty. Does it make since to risk a bbbj and not want to kiss? Not really. I can only revert back to the old saying " you play you pay." It's a risk everytime no matter what you do. My typical advice, though not fun for all, is to try and stick to one or two ATF, to decrease your risk factor. But in reagrds to the orignal post. I really dont see any excuse for someone to behave that extreme or somewhat rudely.
Don't kill the messenger. But unfortunately, competition on the net has pressured many into acts that aren't safe or they would'nt normally do. Would you now see a girl that wanted a covered bj? Many providers don't think so. Perhaps kissing is something they feel they have more say over and just a little less risk they have to take.... my 2 cents....ponder it.

...Navin R. Johnson is "The Jerk".  Instead of actually kissing his woman, he would lick the side of her face.

...she provided bbbj but no kissing.  Medical background or not, both carry risks---I think the problem here is that most women (and even a few of us men) find kissing more emotionally engaging than other aspects of sex.  Everytime I find a provider who is really into kissing, I have to fight the urge to romanticize about her.  A simple 'kissless-f*&k' leaves me relieved but not charged in the same way.

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If they're going to reserve one thing for their SO, guess what it's going to be?

I have never licked a providers face, now that is disgusting. RUde.

When I read reviews and there is no kissing, there is no date.  Kissing is a big part of the fantasy.

And while we are on the point, how does an ATF reduce any risk whatsoever?  It is not as if she is waiting for the time she sees you.  

I don't see everybody that writes. I'm don't have issues remebering who I saw last week, or last month. I don't have 10+ reviews a month. SO YES.... there are some of us who keep to on going situation , or have limits. Some of us do have self respect and care about our health, as well, as providing a more quality not qaunity experince. If you opened your mind for two seconds, maybe you see'd we are all different poeple, with different gigs. Don't make ass- umations, just because you use to term provider we are all the same. Geesh..... are you just mean or is yours the only ideals that matter?
You want to hobby around and share with everyone in your town feel free. I'm not judging you and expect the same respect. I just tried to answer his quetion and add insist and your giving me grief...wt?

For some reason many women seem to feel that kissing is very emotional and intimate.  It seems to defy all common sense that a girl will take your dick in her mouth, vagina and ass, let you lick her vagina, bend her in many different positions, shoot your load inside her, etc..... yet sticking your tongue in eachothers mouth is too intimate????

I've never understood it, but I don't have a vagina so I gave up trying to understand it and simply accept it as "it is what it is" and I can't change it.

I am very attracted to her.

If she smells good all over, nothing turns me on more than wet, deep, slow kisses that last "forever".....

Sometimes on my second round she will try to turn me on with BBBJ, HJ, etc. and I just say kiss me and then all of a sudden I am so hard and ready for more fun.

DFK is the best!!