OK, savage me at will if necessary. I'm new to this board and I do realize this is a review site, but I have a question for the more experienced amongst us. While the reviews are very 'helpful', does anyone else go 'soft serve' after reading a guy's narrative about an 'experience'?? After reading a couple, I almost, stress, almost, lose interest. Perhaps this is why the gals finally ask guys to stop writing them? Could be bad for biz?? Wouldn't numeric scores for each category, kind of like the Olympics, be a lot better?? Like a 8.5 from the Russian judge is an 11...

how do you feel knowing that the girl you are kissing just had a cock in her mouth and cum running out her mouth onto her boobs. and there you are kissing her and sucking on her breasts that just had some baby batter on them. does that bother you?

here's a tip, when reading reviews try to picture yourself doing the narrative with the girl.  and i forget who said it, but as someone once said, chances are, we have all tasted each others cum/ sucked each others dick by proxy at some point lol.

Countless thousands of women will suck one man's cock and an hour later be DFKing another man. Those are simply the facts of life. and if you have to know, I have eaten one womans pussy and have been kissing another woman within the hour as well. It goes with the territory. I don't like the visual either, but if it bothers a guy too much, he might want to consider another hobby.

Just because you don't do it doesn't mean that others don't, and as for BFE posting dumb shit, This is probably the brightest thing he has ever said.

This might not happen in "your world", but I have been doing this since before you were born, trust me it happens.

and then just gloss over the rest of it if it makes you uncomfortable.

In a perfect world, numerical scores would be preferable to these mini porn novels that some reviewers write, more for their own enjoyment rather than to be informative, but it's an imperfect system. It' just the best we've got.

Certain things are important to me when choosing a sexual partner, sex without kissing lacks passion to me, and I much prefer BBBJ to CBJ, but like you I don't really want to read a blow by blow of her last fifty sexual encounters, so I normally jsut gloss over the "juicy details" and concentrate on whether I am attracted to her, and if her menu is not overly limited.

Reviews definitely have their purpose, someone like TheresaTravels immediately goes on my "must miss" list. lol

That's just a fact of life.  Which is why it's necessary to sift through them with care.  If it's obvious a review is nothing but a string of acronyms, stop reading it.  If it's in pidgeon English, stop reading it.  Develop a list of names of good reviewers (there are plenty of them) and read only those.  Using guidelines like this, I've been able to enjoy reading lots of reviews and, more to the point, use them to find some really good providers.  I have not had a bad experience yet as a result of uninformative reviews.

either met in person at a M & G or met through the boards.  True, the reviews are only as accurate as the reviewer.

Gambler on this, Theresa theirs nothing wrong with doing everything covered. But do keep in mind your rates and scores will be lower.

Not many hobbyist are gonna pay 400HR for a cbj. And your scores are not going to be greater than a 7. And you mention that you wouldn't entertain a client such as Gamblers brother.

Question how would you know what activities clients partake in if he hadn't told you?

First, numbers on TER are meaningless. They give no explanation on what happened for such a score to be justified. Was chemistry off or was she having what seemed like an off day?  Photos currant and accurate? That could change since the profile was written by her first reviewer. And some things cannot be communicated with numbers.

Then there is second issue called number inflation where guys trying to win favor with an escort, brag, avoid looking like a fool for spending $1000 an hour or avoid unpleasant consequences artificially inflate the ladies scores. Plus some guys have such low standards that anything willing to suck there dick gets a 10.

The third issue with the numbers is it is all subjective. Like take looks for instance I do not like fake over-sized breasts but others love them. I would penalize a lady for them yet the next guy would give bonus points for the same thing. Some guys like certain acts more then other guys and rate them differently. Then there is this whole chemistry thing that can affect scores as well.

Forth, certain acts are required to get certain scores at TER. I do not participate in some of those acts so it limits the scores I can give a lady that I TOFTT as how would I know if anal, DFK, or more then one guy at a time is on the menu as I don't do any of the above with ladies I see professionally. For that matter unless I seen her in a dual how would I know if a lady is "really bi"?

This factor also weakens the numbers thing as well. If a lady gets a 9 or ten all it means she offers crap I don't care about. Some of the best ladies I have seen are not reviewed by me because I refuse to give a 7 to a lady that in my book has earned a 9 but TER will not let me give her that score.

So as you see from the above the numbers any numbers are of limited use. I don't look at them at all. I personally think they are a waste of bandwidth and discourage honest reviews. I know I have passed on writing reviews because of the numbers and the rules regarding them. I know girls have ask me not to write a review on TER because of TER's number system.

In my opinion an all number system would make things worse to the point of utter uselessness. But that is just my point of view.

I would suggest that you quit while you are behind. Your's is definitely the minority opinion here, and there is an old saying that applies here "when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging"

If you continue to argue this point, I doubt that you are going to win any friends around here. This is nothing but fun and games to me. I have no financial stake in any of this, but I have been doing this for 36 years and I know what I am talking about. You OTOH are talking to prospective clients and your attitude passed "bitchy" quite a while ago.

Do as you please, but you are in a no win situation here, especially with the fact so badly skewed against you.

BTW, just an aside, I have seen well over two thousand women, and the worst thing I ever caught was a case of the crabs back in the mid eighties.

and don't forget the arguement was not whether or not you are worth a shit as a hooker by not offering BBBJ, but whether or not others do offer it and the frequency. Your position was proven to be patently false a long time ago, why do you continue to argue the point?

Of the providers offer bbbj-cim on their menu.

You're right. I'm under no illusions here, but thought less is more. Keeps it more of a fantasy in my head. I should have been more specific. It's not what they're saying, that info is useful, but it was more how they're saying it. Thanks!

Since our new friend advertizes in the Denver area I thought it might be interesting to compare the numbers between CBJ and BBBJ in that particular market.

According to the TER database of the 1536 women that offer blow jobs 575 offer CBJ's compared to 961 that offer BBBJ's, who ever said that TER aint grand? lol

Now that we have proven that TT is completely full of shit, I would like to apologize to the OP for having his thread hijacked.

More excellent advice. Thanks. Didn't think of the score inflation as favor aspect. That would definitely be an issue. Plus the subjectivity would render the scores meaningless as you alluded to. One mans's 10 is another's 5, or vice-versa. Make a lot of sense. Lesson learned. Thank you all...

along with all the research (profile, reviews, ads, web site, pictures)...  before adding a lady to my bucket list.   I don't dwell on the details of the review nor worry about the numbers.  I want to see consistancy & I want to see services I desire.   If I have not seen a lady, I recheck the research when updating my bucket list.   I really don't recall the reviews when I am alone with a woman...  it's just 2 naked people who hopefully are into each other.
So much of every unique pairing is chemistry...  YMMV is ALWAYS the rule.  
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I just have to respond. Most quality providers dont have cum in their mouth or running down onto their boobs. Thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard.  Safety is the number 1 issue and I would not touch anyones dick without having it covered.  I havent had cum in my mouth or anywhere else on my entire body in over 10 years, since my last full time boyfriend.  I really miss that too.  But this idea that an escort is going to kiss another man after having cum in her mouth is not accurate at all.
Also how do you know she kisses at all.  Most the time I dont, very few clients require kissing.  And if they ask well they better be damn sure clean and fresh before getting near my lips.  This happens maybe once a year, very rare.  Usually there has to be some sort of chemistry and both partys are so turned on they just get carried away.  Im sorry to say this but most of you guys dont bother to bring tooth brush or even gum or mints.  This is bad for your experience as most providers are not going to even come close to kissing you unless you smell fresh.  

Posted By: boyfriendexperience

how do you feel knowing that the girl you are kissing just had a cock in her mouth and cum running out her mouth onto her boobs. and there you are kissing her and sucking on her breasts that just had some baby batter on them. does that bother you?

here's a tip, when reading reviews try to picture yourself doing the narrative with the girl.  and i forget who said it, but as someone once said, chances are, we have all tasted each others cum/ sucked each others dick by proxy at some point lol.

I call bullshit on this one.  Perhaps your imagination is a bit over active because any of my friends I have ever spoke to about this issue they all say the same thing,  They dont touch a guys dick without having it covered.
This only leads me to wonder, what kind of providers are you visiting? Seems very dangerous and I would not want to meet a client if this is his usual way of entertaining hisself.  GRoss.

I picked Las Vegas, BBBJ and swallow.  166 results.  Perhaps you two run in different circles.

Your the funny one.  I know how to be a porn star without putting my life in danger.
Is this what you do all day.  Just because cum dont get in my mouth doesnt mean I dont give the full erotic fantasy of total pleasure and experience.   During your boring day of writing and reading perhaps you should read my reviews before you go judging my expertise.  lmao

a bbbj doesnt mean that cum will be in the mouth. Im sure alot of women do enjoy sucking cock without a condom but most will not allow cum in the mouth.

Sorry, Theresa. I think you might be in the minority here. I bet if LP furthered his search to say 'spits out' it would yield a much higher number.

I specifically went to that extreme to point out how readily available a BBBJ is.  There are 166 active profiles in Las Vegas alone that not only allow BBBJ, but also CIM and swallow.  If I back down to strictly the BBBJ standard that you claim is so uncommon, I get 1,230 profiles.  Once again, that's just one city.  (Over 43,000 for the US)

When you claim that most will or won't, don't forget that there's a database with over 700,000 reviews to look at.  I'd venture to guess that your circle of provider friends is somewhat smaller than that.

I only have five things I look for in a provider and only one of is a service, BJ of any type. Now with allowing foe both CBJ and BBBJ I can say more providers automatically give me a BBBJ. Over half allow me to cum in her mouth and half again swallows. I do not look for it but about 10% of my paid dates actually eat my jizz.

Finding a lady willing to CIM is not hard. Hell it isn't hard to find one to shallow. It is harder to find one that will et you cum on her face then in her mouth.

I've been with quite a few providers in the greater NY area over the past several months.  Every last one of the either LFKs or DFKs, permits DATY/DATO and all but one offer BBBJ (the one who doesn't is so spectacular in every other way that I -- and many others -- overlook  it).  Most also offer CIM or take cum somewhere on their body.  I'm not suggesting you should change what you do, simply that in my experience it's rare.  Most mongers I know would not see a provider with such a limited menu, but best of luck to you.  You've been doing it long enough so you must be doing something right.

apparently she took my advice and quit digging.

There is being tough, and then there is being stupid. You guess which one she was being.

They just run in circles.


Thank you
2011 = 28

Talkin' about yourself again I see? You give everything a 10. Hopefully you're not a school teacher.

Most of MY clients desire kissing and CIM, as well as a host of other pleasures.

Speaking for yourself is a better way to garner friends and prospective clients than to include a blanket statement that doesn't carry any real weight.



-- Modified on 4/25/2011 6:05:35 PM

You're the one person that got the original intent of my post. The menu & pics are the turn on. That's THE fantasy. It's also what makes this great. I get plenty of civvie sass, but I want the HOTTEST girl, RIGHT NOW, and I ain't paying her for the sex, I'm paying her to leave. Simple as that. Some guy's illusory vision of his own "porn star" status I just don't really need to hear/read?? I don't give an f if you got her off 10x. In fact, all I care about is that she puts out what I want and I get it. The rest is superflous. Who cares if she gets off?? Some of these reviews are delusional. They're worse than some bad porno mag.

I wasn't impressed.

HOWEVER, I was impressed that she hung with us, especially with you, Gambler, as long as she did.

I still have no desire to see her, per se. But the fact she walked the gauntlet gives me a sense of respect.

She went after us all by herself, and I have to respect that.

I'll stop now, cuz I'd hate for anyone to know I knew about anything other than getting drunk and charming the ladies....!

Theresa, do what you think is right and what you're comfortable with. Nevermind us assholes and our perception's of your holier than thou attitude, meaning, your practices as far as BBBJ, CIM, and the like.

At the end of the day, the way you conduct your business is your business. As long as you're business is good, you don't have to explain a fucking thing.

Especially to us.

Cool?

I'd sway 80/20 your way. Give or take 10 because...

I agree with you. Not because we're tight. I just think you're right.
She didn't listen to reason until after the fact.
The whole BBBJ deal, no swallow, CIM, blah, blah, blah was totally blown out of proportion until she was finally faced(no pun intended) with the fact her and her friends are infact a minority like LP stated.

Once an arguement becomes defensive on one side, you lose all sense of crediblity.

You know I know this!

Of a monger mod.

Tell me something. Does the taste of his ball-sack meet your satisfaction?

I'm going to gather that you took a page from Gambler's book

That's like saying I drink less than MP. lol

It appears, you are seeking clients who have no self respect. Based on the type of clientele you seem to have, I would stay the hell away from you. I really get a kick out of providers who think they are some kind of a hygiene GODESS.

BFE, you need to upgrade your providers. Your standards must be low and you must be looking for bargain basement or you are in the basement. There are hundreds of providers with low volume with self respect.

Personally not into CIM.

Posted By: Theresatravels

I just have to respond. Most quality providers dont have cum in their mouth or running down onto their boobs. Thats the dumbest thing Ive ever heard.  Safety is the number 1 issue and I would not touch anyones dick without having it covered.  I havent had cum in my mouth or anywhere else on my entire body in over 10 years, since my last full time boyfriend.  I really miss that too.  But this idea that an escort is going to kiss another man after having cum in her mouth is not accurate at all.
Also how do you know she kisses at all.  Most the time I dont, very few clients require kissing.  And if they ask well they better be damn sure clean and fresh before getting near my lips.  This happens maybe once a year, very rare.  Usually there has to be some sort of chemistry and both partys are so turned on they just get carried away.  Im sorry to say this but most of you guys dont bother to bring tooth brush or even gum or mints.  This is bad for your experience as most providers are not going to even come close to kissing you unless you smell fresh.  

Posted By: boyfriendexperience

how do you feel knowing that the girl you are kissing just had a cock in her mouth and cum running out her mouth onto her boobs. and there you are kissing her and sucking on her breasts that just had some baby batter on them. does that bother you?

here's a tip, when reading reviews try to picture yourself doing the narrative with the girl.  and i forget who said it, but as someone once said, chances are, we have all tasted each others cum/ sucked each others dick by proxy at some point lol.

She's from South Freakin' Dakota, for chrissakes!  Maybe they do it differently up there?  I mean, it's still practically Indian Territory, ain't it?

is simply not a complete idiot, like most on this board including yours truly (not to mention that fucking whack-o MP!).

I know you're new on the boards, and I'm sure my drunken braggard-ness(?) comes across as crass and self-gratifying. But I think, after awhile, you'll see I have a self-deprecating sense of humor and have no problem pointing fun at myself. I actually encourage people to 'put me in my place'.

Kind of a masochist that way.  

Well, you did ask for it!

Other people have given you their tips.  I just want to add that I use yet another different method, because I know what I'm looking for.  So whereas other people might focus on menu and pics, and mostly ignore the reviews, I place a lot of importance on the reviews because I look for a specific kind of personality and energy level.  There isn't any filterable, numerical category for that, so I get down "into the weeds" in the reviews, looking for certain clues, etc, from between all the acronyms.  And to do that well, I have to find the same clues recurring across multiple reviews.  It's a matter of intuition and "feel" across multiple reviews.

Conversely, menu items, measurements, scores, and many other filterable characteristics are less important to me.  So I simply don't use those tools.

Decide what's important to you, and then use the TER tool that works for you.

Most clients also have a review somewhere or a reference from another provider.  If you read my reviews you will see that I appreciate a good clean man and it will show.  Some of my reviews may have bbbj and others may say she immediately covered him up. lol  Theres a reason for that.  I dont touch anything that has a bad odor.  The only reason I dont allow cum in the mouth is because of disease.  I miss that though.  Ive came close a few times out of passionate but stopped myself.  The number one rule for any classy lady to stick with is Safety for self and others. Thats what I live and work by.  Classier men appreciate this alot.  Id be scared to see a man who doesnt care. Thats all Im saying

I have met some of the girls in the search link you provided and they did offer bbbj but not cim so just because it is in the review does not mean the girl offer it...some reviewers get carried out and add services that are not offered.

because I doubt you have won anybody over here.

and if this is what you call "not arguing" I'd hate to see what you consider an actual argument.

You just don't stop, do you?

Can't you just admit you were wrong and move on? Or do you feel it's necessary to tell every single person that disagreed with you (which was virtually everyone) personally how right and how nice you really are.

If you really were so nice, and so sweet, not to mention so right. You wouldn't have to tell us all, others would be doing it for you.

Did you just say and i quote, "Classier men" appreciate this a lot. Wow really for the first time ever im speechless.

There ya go. My point exactly . Alot of them may claim to do so but it never actually gets done. Hell Ive even done doubles with a girl before who climbed up on top of the guy backwards/reverse cowgirl and used her hand instead of putting his dick inside her.  He never knew the difference and her reviews are just as mine, outstanding.  So I still think most of this is bullshit.  And If I knew a client was taking risks like that with his life I wouldnt touch his ass with a 10 ft pole.  I want a clean, classy client, NOt someone who could give me ghonnoreah or syphillis, or herpes, or aids, or hepatitis.  Are you guys seriously telling me you dont think about these things?  You just want to get your rocks off and who cares about the illnesses that you could spread to others or your wife or girlfriends?  That is just messed up and sad.

I have been doing it awhile and have had alot of fun.  It was my passion for awhile. couldnt get enough.  I was just coming into my sexual peak when I started and I really needed that naughtiness in my life at the time.  Ive been cautious and have never had a disease but every guy Ive seen has always been satisfied and most have came back for many more visits.  You can have fun in this business and be very very naughty without putting your life at risk.  Thats just what Ive learned and others have told me their tricks as well.  The most precious thing a woman can give to a man is herself. Her focus and attention and her beautiful body.  A bbbj is awesome with the right man.  He must smell exceptional clean and be free of any bumps or lesions before I put my pretty little mouth down there.  Hope my posts have helped some to understand.  Happy trails to you all and as always Play safe.

right on!  Its been nice chatting with you all.
Have a beautiful day!  

lol, thats helarious dude.  I lived in south dakota but had to travel to work.  I grew up in detroit.  So this gave me a good laugh this morning, thanks.  
And south dakotans dont live in tee pees and drive horse and buggy.  Its a city just like any other city.  

Now why would I be speaking for you. I dont know you, never even met you.
I speak for the many people I have met along the way.  There are ways of playing and acting that may appear to be going all the way but doesnt really happen.  I have a few friends in the business and they say the same thing.
To each their own.  Good day!

hey hey hey,  I wasnt argueing. I thought this was a place to have fun and talk about what we think.  Geez, I didnt mean to piss you off.  I am not looking for clients on here and Im not trying to win anyone over.
Why is it that just because I have been enjoying myself and wanted to make a few comments turn into Im a bitch and Im a hooker.
God damn cant I just have fun like your doing and express my opinion.
I have never posted much on this board and this is one reason why.  I dont want to be taken the wrong way and have abusive people like you attacking me.
Have a better day dude.  

I was just having fun and taking away some boredom.  I didnt intend to come after any of you.  I wont bother coming back to voice my opinions.  This is a weird board, not for sweet ladys like me I guess.

Posted By: MP67

I wasn't impressed.

HOWEVER, I was impressed that she hung with us, especially with you, Gambler, as long as she did.

I still have no desire to see her, per se. But the fact she walked the gauntlet gives me a sense of respect.

She went after us all by herself, and I have to respect that.

Your the stupid one.  This is your life, you sit in here on a daily basis and Ive been here only a few times in 5 years.  Thats shows who the real stupid one is. lmao.   You guys really need to get a life and grow the hell up.