I was so happy when I found this place that I finally had a place I could trust to give (mostly) honest reviews.  This was accomplished by having the review and discussion board poster names the same.  I could get a feel for the persona of the reviewer by looking at any board posts and his other reviews.  But allowing the use of alias review will remove all credibility of the system.  I could create several aliases and review many providers or the same provider many times.  What does ths do to the reputation of TER when it becomes widely known that there is NO accountability.  Eliminate the Alias Review.    Gentlemen - Man up and post honestly - both the good and the bad.  Ladies - Stop worrying so much about a bad review.  It's just 1 mans OPINION.  We have bad days too.  If anything insitiute a system whereby the providers could comment on their reviews similar to what E.com had.

However please limit yourselves to commenting on this thread. I will not be permitting new threads on the subject until this thread has dropped off the first page.

This is a very important issue concerning both providers and hobbyists,

One thing I am not sure of that may be germane to the conversation is whether only one "reviewing alias" is allowed. If so, a reviewer could conceivably create a track record under his posting alias the same as someone can under an often used alias on the discussion boards. Likewise, many providers create a discussion TER account that does not link to their true provider name to keep their board personna from effecting their livelihood.

Again your comments are welcome, but please keep them confined to this thread at least until it drops off the first page, or becomes four feet in length. lol

Amazing how providers were the first to complain about. I had no idea the feature was enabled.

There are some other reasons why this was created.
1. Review count is down.

2. Guys can post honest reviews.

More details could be posted such as:
1. She is a street walker.
2. Her pussy is too loose or her pussy is too tight
3. She has baby pussy.
4. She has fake hair/weave.
5. Daty did not taste good.
6. I could taste smoke in her pussy.

I can envision high end providers getting really upset with the new policy since they have much to loose and could loose business if things are posted such as items 4 and 5.

Remember this is a site that is run for profit. Reviews is what gets the guys on the site. The more reviews posted the better.

Can you imagine what kind of notes girls who obsess over their reviews are going to be keeping?

We've all seen providers flip out over bad reviews, to the point of threatening clients.

When someone gets too cute and writes a brutally honest review?  Some ho who knows her encounters down to the letter is going to pinpoint who/what/when/where and go OFF.

Its really a dangerous concept.

Personally, I'm none too worried about it.  In the past I've pointedly avoided low-blow reviewers but currently do not (though I do avoid reviewers with abusive language if I'm made aware of their handle).  If someone wants to leave me  whammy, whatever, it will be buried at some point.

I don't think good providers need to be worried about this feature.  

I do think that clients who are considering using it who consent to verification should be terrified because a $1 says that clients who are counting on providers not being able to remember the details of each encounter she has due to volume or absentmindedness are in for rude awakening with they go all HAM over a bad review- using personal information as firepower.

I don't think that people realize how insane some providers are.  No one here is anonymous - no one.

Search by review alias.

Top 10 alias reviewers by the site and region.

Alias white list - that can be disabled if the reviewer wants it turned off.

I would agree that providers who attack and threaten clients over reviews should be penalized or made known if accusations against them can be proven (text messages, emails, PMs).  

I don't think that providers who avoid low blow reviewers should be penalized.
If you put it into the atmosphere you may be judged by it.  Deal with it.  It goes both ways.
Sometimes providers, like myself, who avoid certain reviewers are avoiding a bad time all together.  
If a provider has an instinct that you may not have a good time together or if her impressions/insecurity due to your reviews overshadow the session to the point where she can't be comfortable enough to provide in the manner that she usually does she should be able to avoid that reviewer for his benefit and her own.

Some clients want to have their cake and eat it too.  They see girls they know go against their base instincts and then they slam them afterwords.  That shouldn't be permitted or at least providers should have an opportunity to avoid those situations.

"Some clients want to have their cake and eat it too.  They see girls they know go against their base instincts and then they slam them afterwords.  That shouldn't be permitted or at least providers should have an opportunity to avoid those situations."

Case in point they know that they are too big and want to stuff a small provider with their big dick.

I was thinking more they know they don't like fat girls but see one anyway.

Lol your scenario works too.

I had one provider harass for weeks on end about a  review I wrote about her. She threatened to out me, and accuse me of rape etc. She also left nasty VM's. Nope, I have no problem using aliases! Too many crazies in this business IMHO, includes clients as well!

efficiently discredits integrity of reviews.  And THAT is something you may want to care about.

On personal note - before meeting someone for first time I take time to read their reviews and learn what that particular gentleman's preferences are.

Than I tailor MY session accordingly.  I personally find that it helps me to provide my dates with better service.

Lina

The problem is that the review made under an alias has no more credibility than one from a first time reviewer which we all agree has little value to anyone.

So when it comes right down to it, I don't see any positive benefits to anyone. The ones that will get self perceived benefit are those that want to do damage just for the sake of doing so. IMO the potential for abuse so outweighs any potential benefits as to be worth reconsidering this move. Of course as a lowly moderator, my thoughts on the subject carry no more weight than any one else's.

The only possible way I can see this working is to have two TER identities and only two, one for posting and one for reviewing, and not allow anyone to review under more than one alias. I can see this giving the reviewer the option to keep his posting and reviewing lives separate to insulate him from irate providers and maybe encourage a bit more candor into the review process.

if we are to eliminate PO board, why not do away with RO board as well?

Care to explain what logic you have used to connect Alias Reviews and PO board?

So guy sees a few ladies, writes nice sweet reviews for them, and gets a few whitelists under his belt. Now he's free to act however he wants to act, and write all the snarky reviews he wants under an alias, while protecting his 'good name' with the whitelists attached to it with no one the wiser.

Whitelists, which were limited in their value in the first place, become completely meaningless with the ability to review under an alias.

Furthermore, what makes you think that women will continue participating as actively on TER in general? TER has always been a bare notch above a boys club. Now its just official.

What if someone gets their knickers in a twist over this post I just made, and decides to 'get back' at me by writing a crappy review under an alias? Don't think for a minute it won't happen. Which is why I said my goodbyes on the only board I am really active on - the Politics Board - and why once this thread has run its course I won't be posting here either.

How hard is that to figure out? Your personal information, and your TER handle are two things that do not, and should never be mixed. This whole alias review thing wouldn't even be an issue if men could figure out this very simple concept.

My only white list is from a provider I have never seen professionally. I met her briefly at a M&G some six or seven years ago, and have never even been alone in the same room with her, much less had a session.

Eliminating the PO board is a suggestion too stupid to debate, If the women can't find a place here to speak in private, they are going to find some other place to do so. The same with the guys. Of course I won't speak to the security of either board. lol

Trust me, it isn't.

Its too corrupted by providers telling their favorites, boyfriends and moderators what the contents are for it to be of much value in that regard.

The majority of the contents wouldn't want to be read by clientele in my opinion.

We can't be all that for everyone.  For example, if someone has very low grades i do not automatically dismiss that reviewer, but i do look into his reasoning.

If every single review he posted starts with "She is not my type but I was horny and she was available so I contacted her for appointment" you can bet I will NOT see that person.

Why?  He is NOT my target market.  I offer experience for those interested in naughty sensuality and not just in "busting a nut".

Heck, I just got what can be considered a "low appearance score" on one of my reviews but guess what? Not only the gentleman has had great time, I am looking forward to seeing him again.  Why? Even though he is what can be considered "tough rater", he is amazing company, does his research and does not have unrealistic expectations.

There are "tough graders" and "vicious graders".  In case of latter, I would prefer to avoid possibly unpleasant encounter a lot more than "bad score".

Lina

What would happen to TER if next month everyone cancelled their membership?

TER is for profit business first and foremost and I believe that as customers we have right to voice our opinion.

Lina

Their brilliant logic was that in current economy they need to justify their exuberant fees by making their graduates more competitive.

One of the ways to fix current review problem is to do away with combined averages.  Whoever thought of that bright idea did not anticipate that it will simply result in making appearance scores completely meaningless.

Lina

Even though i will still use my real handle when writing reviews.

Some guys may use an alias to write a review, out of fear of catching flack or heat! Keep in mind who this site was created for.

This new policy eliminates any fear a hobbyist may have of writing a negative or truthful review.

Stop complaining and bitching about the new policy, live with it and get use to it.

I have no problems doing away with it.  All it accomplished is unhealthy competition among SOME ladies.

Lina

This is an issue that has ramifications far and beyond the simple dissemination of information it provides.

My basic assumption is that there are only two possible legitimate services the Alias Review can accomplish. The first is for the poster to be able to post without fear of retribution from the provider community. Apparently there is a fear that if we do not get what we want in a review, we will create a problem for the poster. I can only think of ONE instance where this may be applicable, and I will cover it at the end. The second is for the reviewer to create a separate identity since many dislike his primary, yet he does not want to abandon his prmary. Please do not jump to conclusions prior to reading the entire post. I really don't care to hear how many times xyz has happened, its not what this post is about. We can start another thread on that and debate the merits of who did what and why for others to judge later.

This post is about what the Alias Review does, how it alters the playing field and finally how it really affects us, both client and provider.

Without proper guidelines in place, the Alias Review should be removed post haste.  Those guidelines must assure a fair and reasonable expectation from both camps. Until guidelines that protect both parties are in place there is a significant problem. Currently the Alias Review allows for a method of corruption far and in excess of what can happen in the current review system. Additionally any review already done under an Alias should be removed as well. Not because its bogus, nor because its "unfair". Simply because it bears no credibility is reason enough. The reviewer has no credibility. Take a look at almost every thread that contains the subject matter of credible reviews. Almost all the reasonable replies AND even the mods agree that in order to validate the reviews you need to review the reviewers. Toss that ability out the window if people use a one off Alias. If an Alias has enough reviews to be a reasonable source, he wont be much of an Alias. It won’t take long for smart providers to figure out who he is, thus defeating the process in and of itself.

Issue number one: the Alias is actually a huge disadvantage to the clients as they cant assign any historical credibility to the review.

Next, many of us screen deeply. Screening is like baking a cake. It requires multiple ingredients. A TER background check is just one of those ingredients. For some clients that TER background can be a significant ingredient. Obviously the Alias is not going to have that information to offer. An alias cant expect us to screen for our safety under the Alias name. If they do expect that then it’s because they have built a reputation under that Alias ID along with the primary TER ID they registered with initially (more about the TOS implications later). Hence an Alias is no longer an Alias.  However now the client can request and book an appointment under his name, and then post a review months later under an Alias. I can only see one reason for this and that is to post negative information about the provider, true or untrue, warranted or not.

Issue number two: Other than what I will discuss at the end, the Alias is primarily a tool for delivering negative information, easily corrupted to become a tool for bashing.

Lets introduce another wrinkle. The provider now may need to warn the screener of a potential meeting " yes I saw ShavedBallsBamBam, and funny thing is right after I saw him I got an Alias review" . Of course the Alias poster may have waited 5 months to post his Alias review, but he just fucked BamBam over who was the last guy to see her. Heck he may not have even seen the provider but just disliked what she has to say on the boards.

Issue number three: You place the providers in a position where we need to guess who the Alias is. Then warn everyone who it may be. It’s the only data we have to go by no matter how limited it is. Freedom of speech is one thing; defending a review against an unknown assailant is totally different. To think we would react in any other manner is foolish. I don't think people realize how many fake reviews providers get from people trying to get their extra 15 days VIP.

So now we will have to pass the following information on to all our clients  "Dear Mr. ShavedBallsBamBam, I am sure we would have had an explosive time together, however during you screening an issue arose. A fellow provider who has seen you in the past received an Alias Review shortly after seeing you. That review was totally inconsistent with many of her most recent reviews. While there is no smoking gun pointing at you directly, the coincidence is more than I feel comfortable with. At this time I will have to decline your request, but wish you the best of luck in your search"

TER has made a perfect method to fuck over clients, by clients. Can you imagine Inickey or MP posting how they had a great time with provider "kneestouchesears". And then somebody posting an Alias review following it, bashing her. Nice way to fuck over and at least cast a shadow over both of them. All anyone has to do is say fuck every 8th word and it’s going to look just like Mikes’ post. (No offense MP but your writing style is pretty easy to duplicate). And now MP has to try to defend himself and prove it was not him, the provider has to defend herself swearing MP is out to get her. OMG it’s a train wreck bound to happen.

Issue number four: Guys can now actually fuck over guys that they disagree with on the boards, if they are smart enough.

Safety is another issue. Lets just say "Fucknut" is an Alias of "Micenutz". Fucknut writes an Alias review on "Susieswallows" and in it he gives her a 8/9 when she is used to 6/7. She is happy for the 8/9 but misses the little part written in the juicy details about going bareback. Then Micenutz actually schedules with her and says hey its in your review, this is what I paid for and by gosh if don't get it I am going to write a nasty review. Yes let’s blame Susie for not having the review pulled BUT its not easy to get a review pulled and some providers just skim over the juicy details rather than read every word. We have enough issues with safety as it is. There are not that many of us that can hold our own with a guy our own size much less a guy who is 30-50% larger than we are.

Issue number five: When there is no accounting for honesty, and no penalty for placing a provider at risk, there is a problem. Say for a second Susie caught the bareback statement. How does she know who said it, how can she share who lied, how does she relay the risk of this guy to her side of the world? It was an Alias, how do we know TER looked after us as we don’t know what they did to the registered primary ID.

Last but not least, in my opinion TER is violating its own TOS. Allowing someone to do Alias Reviews is in effect allowing them to have more than one account. Also is TER going to allow both the Alias and the Registered name to post a review on the same event? I would love to see someone try and tell us what the results were just for my simple edification.

Finally while I feel there are still a few other significant issues I can see ONE INSTANCE where this may have merit. When a provider has too much personal information on the client, and the client fears a personal intrusion into their life. Then they would post under an Alias. In my opinion inventing this alternative to allow for that one exception is not justifiable. Dear client, just man up and email all your buddies as you do now. Tell all your friends that you had a horrible time and be done with it. Don’t worry about the review; accept the fact that your life does not allow you to be honest in public. There are many others who have no trouble bashing a provider under their real names.  If your personal life can’t stand for you to write a bad review then don't write one at all. The merits of this function do not come close to justifying the corruption and risk it permits. You will loose just as much as we will in the long run with this function.

I think often aliases are used to be deceitful and hurtful and shows a lack of character when used in that manner.

I consider it spineless to launch hateful attacks using an alias. If you are a man, then show some balls!

I would add to RMs post and say that a provider could create a fake account and use this to lower the scores of some of her competition.

I think the alias reviews are ripe for abuse and shouldn't be allowed.

So, basically, the same geniuses who brought us TER 2.0 are going to trash the one thing this place has left: any remaining validity and usefulness of the data in the review database.

Let's say I'm an agency owner who has some shill accounts under my control. Before, it was possible to detect this without being a TER employee (and in fact, there have been providers and hobbyists who've twigged to this in the past)- hmm, we have a bunch of reviewers who all review the same chicks from this ONE agency.

Now, with review aliases? No way to tell unless you're a TER employee doing quality control. And given that the people doing the review quality control have kind of sucked for a while, I doubt they'll catch it.

I use TER as my primary research tool in determining whether I can expect a lady to be as promised (based on the "current" review system).  We all have an alias to start with...and by creating new ones simply doesn't make any real sense to ME.  The alias on the discussion boards is generally used for several purposes (and in those cases I don't really care...as those posts carry little credibility (IMHO).

But to allow another "alias" to post "credible" reviews is inherently unrealisitc.  As RM discusses, and many of the other ladies must certainly agree, this would unravel an already fragile method of determining whether the lady is "safe" and "reliable".  Was the "old" system an issue?  Apparently TER felt so, otherwise why make this an option?  However, from someone that can "read" and "comprehend the written word", this modification squashes any reliability I may have going forward (assuming John is using the new alias feature).  

While I can understand that TER feels that the reviewer should not be concerned to have HappyHO chasing down JohnnyJohn for not giving her that 10...this is NOT the way to stop it.  Hopefully there are others a lot smarter than me who may have a viable solution.  But this current idea is NOT a good one (IMHO).

I don't know that the review count is down, but would love to know if it is. Can you direct me to the TER appropriate post that indicates this? There are more members in TER now than ever is my understanding. That reviews would be down is strange, not saying it isn't just asking where that data comes from.

Secondly I don't understand why you cant post all those other issues that you listed in a review that is under your real TER ID?

Finally, yes TER is for profit. Companions have no FREE option for VIP. We all pay and are unable to write reviews to get free days.

...for all of the reasons you mentioned, and more. One of the more valuable methods of getting real answers for us is PM to a reviewer. I usually receive a few of these when I post a review, and have asked a followup question or two myself.

I've had a few people I have seen where we didn't click and thus I didn't have the best time, but not because of any failure on their part. I chose not to review those people, because I didn't want to give a poor review just because I wasn't feeling it. This change would have no effect on those sorts of situations.

If anyone I saw was to treat me unfairly, I wouldn't be afraid of using my own handle to write a review explaining what happened. Frankly, if I was to do it as an alias I'd have no credibility anyway, so what would be the point? My TER handle is the only thing on this site that establishes any credibility/history for me.

Frankly, I'm going to have to completely ignore any alias reviews, even if they have 100 of them, because there is a clear factor affecting their willingness to be straightforward with everyone, and I have no idea what it is. The fact that the site will be cluttered with additional reviews that I cannot trust actually makes the site slightly less useful for me.

Lastly, in the one case where someone is writing an honest review and trying to disguise themselves for fear of some sort of reprisal, I don't see how a provider isn't going to look at that review and not know EXACTLY who wrote it anyway. Therefore I don't see any positive use for this at all. I may have missed something but this seems like an idea that has somewhere between a slightly negative to a devastating impact on the usefulness of this site.

I will start by saying that I do not think alias reviews should be allowed, for most of the reasons stated above.  Our safety is the most important thing, and the new policy undermines our screening processes, so it is a bad policy.

BUT I think there is a very real problem when the reviewers can be bullied by providers for giving honest reviews, and I suspect that problem is what this new policy was designed to address.  Too many of the other providers are failing to acknowledge or admit it, publicly or privately, but their own actions are what caused this policy.

I know a local girl - well reviewed and active on TER - who threatened to out a reviewer who gave her a 6 on appearance and a YMMV type review.  There is another very active TER provider who openly admits that she will not see anyone whose average reviews are lower than what she expects to receive.  Providers both overtly and covertly bully clients into inflating their reviews.  I have heard the same story from toooo many men to believe that it is not prevalent, even if the other providers don't want to admit it.

So I think the new policy needs to be discarded ASAP, but I also think there should be some type of consequence for any girl caught bullying a client.  At least out her, for God's sake.  Girls like that make honest girls like me look bad.  My reviews are the clients' honest assessment of me, but theirs are inflated, which will unfortunately lure in more business for them, at my expense.  Absurdity.

might be to avoid attracting attention from folks who are hobby hostile. too many reviews, controversy about whether those reviews are subsidized (and not credible) can simply attract unwanted attention from hostile folks.

in general i agree with the sense of your post and find it well thought out. the only point on which i disagree is that as a way to deal with a provider with too much information who is disseminating that information harmfully. some fortitude would be required though...

the negatives of this policy far outweigh any positives. it will make TER reviews much more corrupt as you have pointed out. i think i'm going to delay renewing my VIP for an indefinite time. i only have 2 days more left so if i don't answer PMs......

don't get your hopes up GaG. i may not disappear completely.

Everyone who agreed with the OP used their normal handle.

Everyone who disagreed used an alias.

Coincidence. I think not!

It appears alias written reviews are not subject to the same standard regular reviews are either.

A bogus review that had been pulled when originally written under the reviewer's handle resurfaced a few days later under an alias.

A month and a half later, the alias written review remains intact.

Fake review writers, rejoice.

Has anyone thought of the fact that there are much worse things that can happen to a provider than a fucked up review?

Sometimes I get appointment request from men who I know are not who I should be seeing. They are very physically aggressive to the point of abuse.....I have read reviews where the man bragged about sneaking off a condom, choking the lady till she turned blue...and this was all bc his request for rough anal sex was declined by the provider. This type of man only sees ladies who are probably not even aware TER exist. Technically the people who have ONLY read his reviews cannot blacklist him...it would have to come from someone who has seen him.....

So based on his reviews no one who screens and uses reviews to gauge compatibility and is in their right mind would see him...........

Now people like him can simply post reviews under alias' and we would never know this man is a dangerous man. We cannot blacklist or do an alert for a VARIABLE.....which is what an alias is.....but we can utilize his handle which is a CONSTANT to protect ourselves.

i wouldn't deal with it by an alias review. i might prefer to document the insanity by an alias post, however. clearly we differ. you can go ahead and give TER your money or your reviews. i certainly don't have to. there are other resources.

i have no problem with alias posts. alias reviews make the site uninteresting.

When viewing TER in the new format, you can actually click on an alias review name, and it will show all reviews written using that alias.

So bogus alias reviewer trashes one girl - mind you, the exact same review had been pulled days prior when written without an alias.

Days after the rip off review was posted? A 10/10 review is written for another girl.

What a great, great preview of good times to come, eh?

There are so many reasons this issue is not good for both sides.For the guys many go off the credibility of the reviewers but with this new policy they have no way to pm any of the reviewers to get additional info.Like another reply on this thread what is to stop a guy from being pissed at what another guy said and post an alias review to completely undermine what the first guy posted in his review.Another issue there are some guys that are not very active on the boards or even this site they pay for VIP for the express reason on being able to do research.Now,with this alias review policy they do not know the difference all they see is the lady has reviews and they are good he proceeds with the session and gets ripped off or worse.Another issue is a guy getting a bug up his ass because of what a provider might have posted on one of the discussion boards he decides "I am going to fix you"he posts a review of the provider even though he never saw her under his alias he has created for this review.Now,the lady has a problem with trying to get it removed no one knows who the reviewer really is so now she cannot warn other providers that guy is a nut because she has no idea who it is.

Many ladies one part of our verifying process is to make sure the person is who he says he is if he says he is a TER member.This new policy is going to make it more difficult verifying hence the guys getting frustrated that the appointment process is now taking even longer.There have so many of us that have had to deal with fake reviews by people who for whatever reason decided to post them.It is exhausting and very irritating especially to the ladies that provide fantastic entertainment.The fake reviews I had were not bad scores at all but I like my reviews to reflect honestly the service I provide if I did not see this person I do not want them listed on my reviews.Also,another situation there are some guys that are truly dangerous and their handles have been made known to providers and some guys might even know them.Now,what is to stop them from posting reviews under the alias review not their "dangerous handle" creating a record of reviews under the alias he contacts a lady.She might not be as vigilant in her screening as other ladies the guy gives his alias review handle she sees he has posted and accepts the appointment.But,he turns into a psycho during the session now this lady has no way of even warning other ladies and even if she does it would be using the alias review handle.No way to put together that the "dangerous handle"is really the same person with this history of alias reviews.

And last with this new policy unfortunately in this business there is a lot of back-stabbing done.There are providers who will intentionally as much as the guys try to mess up another providers review history.Just because she does not like another provider,had a falling out,or she is just a plain nut.So,with this new policy no way to tell if it is a lady being vindictive,guy being vindictive,or just wanting to honestly be able to review a lady without repercussions later.No way to tell too many variables.I understand that guys have been threatened and harassed by certain ladies that felt the reviews were unfair or the scores too low.There has to be another way to combat that issue without this new policy.
Please TER remove this policy this is not helping with the authenticity of the review process.

It seems the ladies have a much higher interest level in the "top 100" lists on the regional/national listing.  And I can certainly understand that interest.  But for me, I seek a specific type of lady and I really could care less where she might be ranked.  And I suspect that many of the guys really don't care all that much either (IMHO).

I am in total agreement with you (and I do believe all the gals who concur) that this can/will be a long-term BAD idea.  I have read replies from those who see a light here (and there is a benefit, but I think it is far outweighted by the negatives).

Something that TER might consider is putting this idea (as it is currently being promulgated) to a vote by TER members (and that would have to include all of the ladies who are here as well as those that may not be active).  I would suggest that the entire voting population may be considerably smaller than the entire TER member database, but at least those who only infrequently use this service can be allowed to cast their votes as well.

While this might not be a perfect solution to what appears to be a "train wreck of epic proportions", it might create enough stimulus to come up with more viable ways to make the review process more efficient and reliable.

Maybe you should look again there are some who have agreed with the OP and posted under an alias Your theory is incorrect!

I actually sent this to her via PM...

To start, you're right about alias'. I think it's a chickenshit practice. The only good thing about it is if someone has a legitimate question about STDs and other personal questions they would like answers to without revealing their 'true' username. Other than that, it's useless and does nothing but start hate and discontent.

Letting an alias write a review is probably the worst thing TER can allow. There's no credibility. You can't review the reviewer.

Fuck. Just like I said earlier. I give out 10/10s like candy apparently. I have my reasons for my scores. They're my reasons, so fuck you. But you know by my board presence and who I associate with that I'm a stand-up guy. I'll take everybody on to fight for what I believe in. You can't do that with an alias. They hide, like a cockroach when the light comes on. No one knows who they are but the mods and they ain't sayin' shit. They can't.

Fuck. Some of them are just as much, if not more, guilty of the practice.

How can you trust a review by an alias? I have friends that say, 'Mikey. Suzycumsalot is touring here next week. You saw her. Was she really that good?'

All you have to do is a cross reference check with ladies I've seen and some of my buddies and their reviews. Their reviews start off 'A close buddy of mine....'

You can't do that with an alias. No one's supposed to know who they are, and if you turn them on, you basically 'outed' them which is grounds for banishment. Really?

It's OK for someone to write a fucked up review under an assumed alias. But when someone calls them on it, they're fucked.

Here's another thing. I'm cool with some ladies. We talk, want to meet, the usual shit.

Some asswipe she never saw writes a review of her. She tells me, and I take care of it. I go to Admin and say 'Here. This lady is consistantly a 9/10, 10/10 and this fucking joker gives her a 8/7? WTF is up with that?'

Not to mention she doesn't recall seeing the guy, screening him, or any of that shit in the firstplace.

Alias' will run wild with reviews. Just to get the free 15 days.

Fuck, I'm an asshole but I'm in your face honest. I can do up an alias right now and write reviews about every fucking lady on the boards just so I don't have to pay for VIP. That's not my style, and anybody that knows me knows that.

They're doing more harm than good. How would a lady properly screen? Does her safety take a backseat to how many reviews are posted at the end of the day?

Not to mention the LE factor. Fucking might as well give them a key to the front door. All they have to do is make up a name and wait for some lady to bite since she can't check his references. WTF?

Whomever came up with this needs to reevaluate their sense of priorities.

Money's great. I love money. But it ain't worth going to jail for, especially when you take so much time and care to conduct your business WITHOUT getting caught.

Fucking wise up!!!

Having read all of the above comments I would just like to get some additional thoughts on who this would benefit and why?

My observation of the "typical" reviewer this helps is the guy who is the one who doesn't want to spend some time doing his own research.  The same guy who is disappointed that she isn't a 8, 9 or 10 because the other guys said so (and he didn't bother checking out her site for additional info).  The same guy who posts as an alias on the boards and simply bashes the guys/gals to apparently feel better about himself.  The same guy that may not be able to "perform" and figures it must be HER fault!

This new alias will allow that GUY to post his "real" experience (at least in his own mind).  This is the same guy right now who posts that he came three..maybe four times and got her off at least half a dozen times.  Frankly, I believe most of the TER veterans ignore that review now...and would simply have no reliance on almost any new reviews by any NEW alias.  At least until such time that the NEW alias becomes his TER ID...but heck...isn't that what we have NOW?

Thoughts?

I am very happy to see such conversation going on and even our mod giving some positive feed back. I will read and keep my mouth shut so as not to poison the good that can and will come from a meeting of everyone's minds.

Thanks again and let's hope this will be resolved for the better of everyone. Keeping things honest is hard enough.

Kisses Haley

Lots of good points on both sides of the argument but one that I don't buy is the importance of looking at reviews as a screening tool.

I've been told by more than one provider that the majority of a provider's clients don't come from TER so using reviews byTER members as a screening tool is helpful but certainly not the most important or essential part of screening.  

If a provider wants to use a TER handle for screening, then the most valuable page is the list of White Referrals. Anything else should be suspect as being bogus just as so many of the reviews are embellished.  We don't even know if the reviews are true events. There is only one way for someone to get on the White List and that is by a provider adding a member's handle.

And if you want to remove alias reviews, then how about they eliminate the Provider Only board and keep everything out in the open?

I know it's a long thread....but I missed the post from Admin or staff informing us that this was a new "policy".

Can someone condense all the rambling drivel in this thread down to.....do we know for a fact that it's policy....or maybe just a glitch in the new software?

Just asking, because surely I can't be the only person interested in facts....with little use for speculation.

at least for those who think they might need it. having pulled one review and regretted it, i learned that  pulling a review only increases drama. so i would prefer an option to keep reviews and posts linked.

consider the idea that the new policy isn't to protect reviewers from irate providers. it may be to let reviewers who have been _officialy_ embarrassed continue writing reviews.  i don't think the new policy would help that situation either. the reviews will have low credibility. why wouldn't someone in that position simply start from scratch again under a new handle? or is it ALL about the numbers?

pretty much useless speculation, though.

We are going to have to agree to disagree.

"If a provider wants to use a TER handle for screening, then the most valuable page is the list of White Referrals."

I look for the OTHER providers. I want to know what the other providers a client has reviewed have to say about him not the ones that have white listed him. I can already tell you what the girls that have white listed him are going to say. Unless I personally know his white list, I don't bother to contact them.

I respect the white list to the degree, however it is just as corruptible as my reviews are. Being biased and showing favoritism is not limited to just the guys.

As far as screening overall, you are correct.  TER is a small portion or part of the screening process.

I am not going to address the provider review board issue as I don't have time. Perhaps one of my sisters or even FFP can address that.

Come on Seeking...think with that "lump three feet above your ass".

Why would this become a virtual negotiation on what services should be rendered by TER?  And more importantly, who are you suggesting be the lead negotiators?

And what in the hell has the Providers Only Board have anything in any universe got to do with alias'?

Its not a glitch, and although staff has announced changes as they've been made, this particular change was never announced. Can't imagine why.

You need to view TER in the new format, it appears the classic view does not support the new change. Go to the page where you can edit your aliases. When creating a new alias, you will see a drop down box that allows you to designate the alias as either Discussion or Review. When you write a review, you can choose to do it using your handle, or any aliases designated as Review aliases - and yes, you can use multiple aliases to write reviews as well.

Since staff has been silent on the entire thing, we have no idea what, if any guidelines exist regarding the use of an alias. I can say this at least for certain - a review that had been removed reappeared days later from an alias. That was over a month ago, and in spite of several attempts to have the alias written review removed, it still remains. So it appears that challenging a review written by an alias may not be very effective.

Again, there is a disincentive for a reviewer to write an honest bad review.  He has everything to lose and nothing to gain.

What do you think a provider who got a deserved bad review is going to say about the reviewer?

I don't have a clue what you are saying about a negotiation (did I mention negotiation) so maybe you need a little more O2 to the lump three feet about your ass.

And if you don't understand how the provider only board works then I'm not going to waste my time arguing with you.

Clearly, the negatives outweigh any possible positives.  TER has tried to solve a problem (over-hyped positive reviews) by creating a worse one.  I'd like to hear from Admin exactly why they did it and their response to all the well-reasoned criticisms.  Thanks, Reagan, for getting this started so thoughtfully.  And my usual tip-of-the-hat/fuck you to Gambler (ATWYRIO).  LOL!

Point #1: Most reviewers have been threatened at least once to some degree by an unhappy provider. In my case, she didn't like the 7 score I gave her for appearance and wanted an 8. It wasn't a serious threat but she made it clear that unless I changed the score, she wouldn't see me again. I didn't change the score and she never saw me again. No loss for me, I didn't think she was so hot anyway...

Point #2: I don't agree with your comment about the ONE permissible situation for using a review alias being that the provider has too much personal info on the client. If that was the case with me (and it never will be because I NEVER give out personal information), I'd skip the review entirely. If she's in a position to threaten me with outing, I certainly wouldn't post a negative review with or without an alias. The alias is not complete protection. TER staff has access to aliases and some providers have enough political clout or friends to possibly be able to find out who the alias is. So while the alias provides some level of protection against retaliation, it's certainly not fool proof and if you're dealing with a provider who's making threats, I'd say don't post any review at all and keep your fingers crossed she keeps her mouth shut.

Point #3: GOOD providers, PROFESSIONAL providers, SANE providers have little to fear from alias reviewers. Untrustworthy providers, ROBs, insane nut jobs and dangerous providers are the target of alias reviews. Providers who advertise services but don't deliver what they advertise should fear alias reviews. Providers who upsell, cheat clients, steal from clients, or otherwise harm clients should fear alias reviews. Provider can always complain to TER if the review is out of line with what they normally get. Problem is that maybe that one session WAS out of line and the reviewer was correct. My assumption is that the alias review was introduced to protect hobbyists from vengeful providers.

Point #4: You're correct that alias reviews will be abused endlessly because we already know that fake reviews are all over the place. Yes, this will make the problem of fake reviews much worse and it's going to be a mess. Yes, they will make screening tougher but screening clients really isn't the purpose of this board. This is a review board for hobbyists that providers are welcomed to be part of. If you don't trust the reviewers, check their white lists which are much more accurate than any reviewers comments. Ladies who white list us are putting their reputations on the line which makes the white list much more valuable for screening purposes.

Point #5: I get the impression that you're concerned you won't be able to figure out which clients are tough reviewers so you can avoid them. I'm sorry but that's not a valid reason to complain and it shouldn't be a valid reason to not see a hobbyist! You ladies are really overly concerned with your scores, so much so that you turn away business based on guys who don't easily give 8's to 10s? Money is money and business is business and if you're a damn good provider, you'll go out of your way to please that tough reviewer. Yes, there are ass-wads who give everyone low scores just to be a-holes but why would someone like that write all his reviews with an alias? These guys love the idea of the boys thinking he's a tough, therefore very honest reviewer and with that power trip, they're not going to hide behind an alias.

The bottom line is that great providers have very little to worry about with the alias review system. If you get a bad alias review, challenge it with the TER staff. They can flip the alias and determine if it's a fake or legitimate review. I think the problem providers have is that they won't be able to easily track down that damn reviewer who's screwing up their scores and resort to the usual methods of threatening him or blacklisting him. This whole review system is highly subjective and there's no way to make it fair for everyone involved. Ladies, this is a hobbyist's review board, therefore it's biased in favor of the boys. I hear there's a new review board where providers review hobbyists so feel free to blacklist them there

i know a few providers who have established enough trust to not misuse that combination of info. but in general it is a bad idea:

1) to give a provider who screens a TER handle, or
2) to give a provider who accepts TER handles personal (screening) info.

I agree with you. It totally means on relying on TER to catch all the potential fake, potentially harmful to client and provider reviews. The usefulness of TER is if something bad gets by a lot of us have the tools to track it down and point it out. We all rely on the fact that it is harder to get something past a bunch of us looking at reviews and reviewers history.

Same shit is gonna happen with multiple alias reviews.


Lina

and I probably didn't state it very well because there were a lot of thoughts going through my head when I wrote this. You ladies have every right to refuse seeing us for any reason but a lot of providers tell me they don't want to see so & so because he gives low scores and he'll lower their average. Rather than risk the less than stellar scores they typically receive, they decline to see the guy. That's your right of course - I'm just saying that I don't think it's a very good reason to turn away cold hard cash IMHO. Providers want the highest scores possible since they seem to live and die by those numbers and their averages and the standard deviation and every other statistical analysis you ladies use to see how you stack up against the competition. Hobbyists would like to be able to generate realistic scores but if the scores aren't in line with what providers like, we get grief and sometimes threats. So we're coming in from opposite ends of the scoring system. You ladies would like us to start with 10's and lower them if you don't do something we'd like. We score starting from lower numbers and raise them based on services available and how they're provided. These are TER rules and are clearly stated. Therefore, providers' desire for high scores are not in line with the way TER wants reviews scored. TER wants reviews scored realistically but providers want high scores so something has to give. That's why TER provides rules for assigning scores - it's an attempt to remove some of the subjectiveness and make scores more objective. And I suspect that's why TER is now allowing alias reviews - to protect hobbyists who actually try to score reviews realistically from provider retribution.

The solution for providers is simple. Be the best that you can be at your job and neither scores nor alias reviews will be a problem for you. I'm sorry I stated my original opinion so strongly and I hope I've clarified my reasoning.

Nope. Just to see if the alias could actually be used in writing a review, I looked in vain for a "submit a review" link. There is none if your account is a provider account.

Alias reviews are much less useful as you can't back-channel through PMs or see if your perseverance match the reviewers.

TER please ditch the aliased reviews.

Aliases should NOT be used to write reviews, for all the points you mentioned. The number of fake reviews is going to skyrocket if this policy remains in place.

Here is how:

1. Look I need to get a feel for a reviewer before I can give him any creditably. Aliases prevent that. How am I going to determine if the reviewers and my tastes match if he uses an alias?

2. I get the most accurate information through back-channeling and again alias prevent that.

3. Fact is aliases are already used as a weapon to unduly attack people on the boards, I am 100% certain it will also be used to do so with reviews as well. Providers and hobbyists alike have reason to fear this, good or otherwise.

4. Providers often will know who wrote the review and still go after him, or they may guess wrong and go after the wrong client and hurt him.

5. It will make tracing bogus reviewers much harder. There is a guy who may or may not be legit that only reviews ladies from one agency In my state. I don't trust his reviews as I think but have no prof he may be associated with the agency. Now he can just use aliases to cover things like that up.

I really think this fucks things up for those that really screen the ladies and don't take reviews at face value.

I didn't say the PO board is purely for bashing, etc.  You said that.

My point is if everyone wants transparency then lets eliminate all the restricted boards as well.

you know...that lump that is "three feet above his ass"!

My comments were regarding his lame attempt to "negotiate on behalf of TER" that if TER removes the alias...then they should in turn remove the Providers Only Board.  

I do believe that Seeker is also a negotiator for both the NBA and NFL and their lame attempts at the CBA, and felt that such tactics would work in this game.

Otherwise, I can only imagine that he has a gal pal feeding him all of the drivel on your PO board...otherwise why bring that into the equation?

Simply another obvious reason to try and keep this board (and the reviews and reviewers) as transparent as possible.  If seeker switches to another alias he can then continue posting as "someone else" and it would take the readers some time to determine who his original alias was. And perhaps that has already happened?

I never tied alias reviews to the PO board, however, when a negative review is given with the real handle, providers can talk about a the review/reviewer and negatively impact his ability to see other providers.

My comment was really about transparency.   If transparency is so important in reviews, then why don't we also eliminate the PO and RO boards and have everything out in the open?

I"m not negotiating anything.  I'm stating an opinion.  If you have to resort to assinine comments then be my guest.

I'm not interested in responding any further to your moronic, juvenile comments.

to the proverbial "bottom line".

There must be some viable method to increase the reliability of review scoring, but as I stated earlier creating another "alias" does not seem like it will accomplish this.  As I also pointed out, many of us (verteran reviewers) already discount the scores upon viewing...and thus the importance of actually reading what a review has to say.  Heck...perhaps just eliminate the numerical score?  But that would require somebody to read the review.  And wait, they would need VIP to do that.  Maybe that is the way to go for TER as that would force guys to acquire the VIP with paid fees.

And as far as no schools give all A's and B's...well PP, you might want to read some of the issues with the Ivy's and NESCAC schools.  Unfortunately this is a rampant problem amongst the Ivy's and Baby Ivy's (and trust me on this...I have just had a first hand experience seeing this problem).

Which would not be an issue for me, or I think too many of the guys.  The individual scores would still appear on her TER listing page, but those averages and "Top 100" lists would disappear.

But it does seem that a lot of the ladies use that as a tool on their sites as a tool.  Would those gals have an issue eliminating that from their site?  And also, as many of the gals profess to have that "competitive edge", that could easily eliminate the potential harrassment for a gal to a guy for a "perceived" lower score.

Frankly, that is a really good idea.  It would go back to the reinforcement of doing the proper research and reading a review to ascertain that a fella is actually looking to meet with that gal.  As you said earlier, some are just looking for that "pop", whereas others are seeking an entirely different experience.

I have read through the many replys and comments and in my opinion I don't see a problem with the alias.  I believe TER admin had the wisdom to gave this process and fair screening before implementing it in the first place.  I believe this because I think the whole concept of TER is simple yet brillant.  I agree the new process has the potential for being abused and minipulated but my personal experience and fear from writing a Honest but unfortunately low review was hindered under the old system.   I must also clarify that I also don't rely on any one review in deciding to see a provider but I do "value" having accurate and honest reviews of providers from prior clients.    Look....this is a P4P service and it important to me that I have good information on a provider before committing time and money.   If a bad review is not inline with the prior review it will be pretty obvious.  I agree this new review process should be set up to protect clients from retaliation from a provider especially if a provider doesn't agree with a review.  Thankfully, I have only had to give one bad review since I began.  It could have been more had it not been for the courage of prior clients to post honest reviews of providers.   I believe this new process was put in place to encourage clients to post honest reviews (w/o fear) and not to minipulate the process to hurt a provider reputation.   The VAST majority of the providers I've met are VERY good at what they do and I value and support them always.

At least until, you get a feel for them in person.

I use TER as my primary research tool.
I generally look at a lady that averages greater than 8.5 in both categories.
I read the reviews, good and bad.
I check the reviewers to see how they score and read their reviews, as we all know one guy's 10 is another guy's 8.
I always look at the worst reviews, middle of the road and the best, if the provider has pages and pages.
I like to see if these other reviewers have seen the same ladies that I have seen. Then I will have a better understanding.

Someone using an alias really will be ignored by me.
I pay for the privilege to use TER and this new policy makes this tool less useful to me.
If this becomes less useful, people like me will go elsewhere.

TER should stop this Alias Review Policy immediately.

I do not understand the concern that ladies won't see you if you post low numbers.
There are so many ladies out there, why do you care?
If you consistently write bad reviews, perhaps this is not the ladies issue.....

I have had the pleasure of using TER for just over 2 1/2 years. I have met so many fine ladies and yes there have been a few that did not merit the the higher scores, but only a few. Who cares? I don't! I could have had an off day myself.
My advice is to take advantage of what TER has to offer and enjoy yourself.
If you are always trying to figure a way to be negative, you are not doing yourself any good.

Balboa

Alright I know TER is not a court of law.
Seriously folks, isn't it part and parcel of living in this country for the "accused" to know who is saying negative comments.
Gentlemen, this could seriously lead to lot of garbage being posted.
This could get really nasty here and isn't TER supposed to disseminate useful information to other hobbyist and providers.
Don't get all bent out of shape, if it wasn't for providers there would not be a TER.

Get rid of the alias review.
If you don't then I for one would like an option to ignore "alias" reviews.
The Top 100 list should ignore "alias" reviews.

Why do you worry that a provider won't see you if you write negative reviews?
There are so many providers available, just like there are so many hobbyist that the ladies can decide who to see or not.
You have the same right.

This "alias" review idea promotes negativity and TER will lose providers and paying hobbyists.

Balboa

when i do research and read reviews of a lady i also read the reviews of some of the reviewers. that way i can get a sense of the reviewer's tastes and (if they match mine) the usefulness of the review.

First, some reviewers will post a negative review of a lady who should get a negative review.  I don't know that I understand the need to do this via an alias since a lady I post a bad review about is someone I do not plan on seeing again anyway.  Why would I care if they are upset at me?  I suspect this will happen infrequently.

Second, I see some reviewers will post a bad review for all the wrong reasons.
--They don't like the lady in question for non-business reasons.  They do not like what she posts.  
--They do not her in real life for a good or bad reason and want to annonymously attack her
--The have a favorite lady (or a lady they have financial interest in) and want to attack the "competition"

I suspect this will happen more that the first situation.

Third, it makes it very easy to write shill reviews and make it more difficult to cross-check.

On ballance I think it will seriously increase biased if not out and out fake reviews.  I think it is a bad idea and I would hope such alias reviews are very clearly makred.  I for one would probably ignore them.

1) go to your account manager
2) click on more, select "Edit My Aliases"
3) click on the menu button to the right of the text box for "add alias"
4) you will see that aliases now come in "discussion board" and "review" aliases

so you can create a review alias.

Point #1: In my opinion, you have no basis to speak for "most reviewers". I don't think you know most of them. Obviously someone threatened you and it resulted as you said in "no loss". There was no need for an Alias and that event was never even a problem by your own admission.

Point #2: It’s a scenario. Many providers require some personal information. I am glad it will never happen to you. In fact, its all the more reason that you don't need an Alias. You NEVER give out your personal information. However, it does happen to some people. Your statement, "I don't agree with your comment about the ONE permissible situation for using a review alias being that the provider has too much personal info on the client" baffles me. Don't you care if your fellow hobbyist is protected? Why don't you agree that this is at least ONE permissible reason for an Alias Review?

Point #3: You are right. "GOOD providers, PROFESSIONAL providers, SANE providers have little to fear from alias reviewers". I have no fear of a GOOD, SANE and Professional HOBBYIST, but clean honest reviews certainly help me determine that they are GOOD, SANE, and PROFESSIONAL. Please don't take that tool from me. You don't want it taken from you. The rest of your point is by no means a reason to fear retaliation. Reporting a bait and switch, robbery, nut jobs or such is something you should never have fear of reporting.

Point #4: Yes it’s a review board, and thank you "providers are welcomed to be part of" for allowing us the latitude to participate. It’s obvious that you don't need us here, but that you allow us here.

Point #5: You could not be further from correct. Let me make this crystal clear. I don't avoid tough reviewers. I avoid idiots. All I ask the reviewer to do is be fair. Second, while you are a seasoned hobbyist, please don't tell a provider what a valid reason is or is not to see a hobbyist.  

I think that Professional Providers need not worry about Professional Hobbyists. But this is not the case.  A guy who has never been a hobbyist can join today, pay his VIP and post a totally illegitimate review all in the same day. How professional is that? And to make that review stick all he needs to do is go to his regional board, see who has an advertisement out, use his VIP to look at her reviews and then just be CLOSE yet shitty in his fake review. There is no pulling that review out!! TER will say it looks awful legit to me.

My point is that there are flaws in the entire system. Creating more flaws is not the answer. At a minimum, create some sense of standards. A registered ID should have a minimum number of reviews behind it before it can Review under an Alias, say 20. This is no different than what a provider needs to get on the "top 100" list. That would lead to some credibility. The Alias Review score should never be included in the providers Rating system, just like they no longer count Duo's for providers as credit. In the instance of robbery, bait and switch, etc, those providers get their ID banned…period.

If you are going to condone a system that has the potential to cause harm for anyone, provider or hobbyist, then contribute in a meaningful way. Suggest methods to make the system better that work for both parties.

Finally, your statement of, "Ladies, this is a hobbyist's review board, therefore it's biased in favor of the boys. I hear there's a new review board where providers review hobbyists so feel free to blacklist them there ",your opinion and advice is duly noted.

Your right except you need to be VIP to look at those numbers anyway, so doing away with the numbers would probably be a better solution all around. They cause a lot of the problems when people argue over them, they are ignored by serious hobbyist for the actual wording of the experience, and they cause some providers a lot of meaningless stress. Maybe replaced with two yes and no questions, are the pictures accurate and did she perform as expected from previous reviews.

A LOT of providers are VIP.  As VIPs they have ability to create aliases.  Just for shits and giggles, what if every we (paying for VIP providers) decided to post Alias Review ?  Sorta like National "Have fun review" day

Lina

You'd likely get banned.  Just because the name isn't visible to basic users doesn't mean that the other rules don't apply.  A significant percentage of reviews never see the light of day.  In spite of all the crap that slips through, they are read by a real person.

Re: I know! But can't help how my deviant russkie mind works

Sometimes plotting can be fun!

Lina

I agree with you except for the hobbyist the worst thing will be a dramatic increase in shill reviews that will no longer be detectable. A lot of replies seem only focused on how this effects the providers and being able to negatively review a provider. My bigger worry is a dramatic increase in fake positive reviews.

A 7 7  rating is not a bad rating.  It, In my mind is a pretty damn good time.  I have to believe that if the 9 9  or 9 10 or 10 10 providers are all of that, they would have more reviews.  But Hey I was not there so it is none of my business.

But I also see that they are the ones that screen most heavily.  I am not interested in going there as all the cards are in their hands.

I don't know who you really are but you want to have info on me?  If you want my ter name fine but that is all you will get .

I would not hold it against you for not seeing me, as it is your choice.  But if you do see me you are fair game for my rating.

I will not ever use an alias as i think we are hidden enough as it is.  And yes I think anyone how does is a ball less sissy. Yes you sisssy aliases might be able to kick my ass or correct my grammer and spelling but when it comes down to it I will look you or a provider in the eye and say what I think.

There is one region in the US where this has already happened from what I heard. Many guys stopped posting reviews as result.

Reviews is what makes this site money. Without money the site won't exist.

This guy posted some stuff that no else posted.

The mods only know about posting aliases not review aliases.

Ter has a 5 year vip award for the guy that post the 750,000 review. They would not do that if the review count was down.

I look at the feature as a positive. Information is power.

As of this post 13,700 need to be posted to get to the 750,000 total review count on this site.

You raised some good points about guys having a minimum number of reviews use the feature so it is not abused.

There are high end providers who won't see guys who see low end providers. Yet another another reason to have the feature.

One of the reasons I quit writing reviews is in recent years LE has attempted to tie clients to their reviews and charge them. My preference is to remain anonymous so LE cannot tie my real handle to any reviews should that situation arise.

Another reason is reviews are usually overrated and are no longer reliable. Guys on the receiving end of poor service are continually pressured to not write reviews or modify their reviews, failure to do so is usually met with threats of outing, harassment, blackmail etc. While a 7 / 7 might be seen as a good score for a client, it is usually seen as a "kiss of death" for a provider. The truth is, I see no reason why a provider who is 30 lbs overweight and uses photoshopped pics should get an 8 or above.

The new option does have some negatives but I think most are overreacting. A provider who is on her game every appointment will not have anything to worry about. She is probably too busy with appointments than to worry about the consequences of the new alias review option.

If a provider is unhappy with the new policy, she can simply ask TER to delist her and move on. Given this choice I don't think many will choose this option.

Here are a few benefits I see with the new option:

* Less chance LE can tie my real handle to my reviews
* More clients submit reviews which benefits clients
* Reviews are more accurate and truthful with less risk of retribution by provider
* I can give more credibility to a review with an alias with an average score than one which is over the top which have been more influenced by the provider.

Lets take your fetish/interests. I am sure that you don't want to be with a guy who likes to dominate women because you are the one who wants to dominate.

I know there are bunch of guys who won't post that stuff in a review. They regularly chain, ballgag, blindfold a provider to a bed on a regular basis. They have figured out how to pick submissive women out because they are so experienced. They also have common sense not to book with a dom.

Put to doms together can be like mixing water and oil.

Now with the new review alias feature you wont be able to find out who the reviewer is.

I can understand this probably sends chills up your spine because as we know most doms don't like to be put in submission positions.

If if the guy does not know how to stop when the lady says no it becomes a safety issue for her.

Even if he stops, the session goes bad chemistry wise and he posts a bad review (via review alias) on you, when in fact he knew up front had no business booking with a dom.

A hobbyist with enough reviews to establish an identifiable writing style or pattern of preferred activities could be "impersonated" by another hobbyist with malicious intentions.  This could be this dicks way of causing conflict between the another hobbyist and a lady.  Who wants to have to say to an ATF, "Wasn't me? It was someone writing like me!"  

OK, this was written in continuation with the other conspiracies in the thread.  But seriously, Admin needs to issue a statement explaining the reasons, rules and guidelines.

Its a beautiful morning in Phoenix, the lake awaits us. Cookouts and Fireworks. Yummy.

This is the 4th reference I have seen either by post or PM, about the LE privacy issue. The moderators can see who the Alias posters are in the boards. This is because TER ties them together and links your registered ID to your Alias. You can do all the Alias Reviews you want, but as long as LE penetrates TER admin as they did in Maryland, your Alias is linked.

Laugh, thank you but what is that post supposed to mean? The valid portions of it are valid, simple and sweet. It certainly does not support your statement that Reviews are Down.

I replied to the issue of LE that he mistakenly feels better about in another thread but will do so hear as well. Your Alias's are tied to your ID (Handle) in the TER database. Create an Alias every 4 hours if they will let you but they are all tied in. The moderators can see who you really are when you post in any board. When LE has the ability to gain access to your ID, then they also have the ability to see all the Alias's tied to your ID. The Review Alias is no more secure than your ID. If you used real and personal information in your registered ID, then life is what it is.

I have made this statement before and I will make it again. If a girl is 30 lbs overweigh and her photos have been photoshopped to look 30 lbs less, then heck yes that deserves to be in the review. I would give that girl an immediate 6. We don't disagree in the validity of inflated reviews. But we will never agree to a method that allows the total unrestricted ability of hobbyists review with ZERO accountability. Even grade school children are accountable for their actions.

The mods, (to my best knowledge which is limited) do not have access to membership ID. To that I agree.

What these guys are referring to is the bust in Maryland where a person gave up his ADMIN password SUPPOSEDLY. With that info LE could tie anything to anything. They would have had access to your membership ID which IS tied to all of your Alias's.

I agree with you.

My comment about eliminating the private boards was a facetious suggestion to make the point that if transparency is so important then lets be transparent rather than only being transparent with reviews.  Apparently very few people picked up on that.

I really don't have strong feelings about using an alias in a review.  I think the board would be better served if TER implemented a performance scoring system that made more sense.  Giving points for services that were offered to the OP but haven't been available for the next 30 reviewers is stupid.  Also, some of the points are given for ridiculous reasons such as DFK but not LFK or just kissing.  I submit that a lot of guys don't know the difference between DFK and LFK.

So what I'm trying to say is that the current review system is not working well.  Using an alias seems to be an attempt to get more accurate reviews but perhaps redesigning the scoring system would make more sense.

LE can't get a conviction on just reviews. They may try to intimidate you into confessing with them but any lawyer worth his pay will get them thrown out unless they can 100% prove you wrote them. On top of that if that is all they have on you, any good lawyer would get the whole damn case thrown out. If they have real evidence besides your reviews, you are in trouble anyway.

Your second point is not valid as that is yet to be determined if it would have any effect at all on review numbers and would if it leads to more reviews it would also lead to more fake reviews.

Your third point is also not valid as the same forces that would allow for greater honesty also make it that much more easy to use reviews as a weapon with fake reviews. Fake reviews are already an issue, this will make it worse. Now you do have a point with the retribution part but if you write what happened there is a good chance they will know who it was anyway.

Your forth point is just plain stupid. You would give an alias with NO accountability more cadence then a guy you can look up and do research on to see if his opinions are valid to you? You are nuts. I will not give an aliased reviews any credibility until they have enough reviews to trace there hobby habits, even then as the guy is not willing to stand by his words very limited credibility.

This new policy is a disaster for those that screen the reviewer to see if his opinion counts. Plus it kills back-channeling the best source of information out there.

NO, frankly IMHO, admin needs to disable this "feature, bug, glitch" or whatever it is.  We already have rules out the ying yang and they get violated everyday with no corrective action taken.  We already get fake reviews, and now it seems we have alias reviews that can be used to resubmit a previously rejected review.  I mentioned this in a different board, but since it fell on silent ears, I'll mention again that it sure seems like TER has new owners who have a very different direction in mind compared to past owners.  There are so many illogical things going on with TER in the past few months that it just doesn't seem probable that the same owners are still at the switch.  I'm not sure I really find value as I once did and I await some comment from whomever is in charge to see what they have to say about things.  Unfortunately, nothing but silence on a lot of matters so far.

The reviews I put the most faith in are those written by people who have the same tastes in ladies that I do.  If we have seen a number of the same women and agree on the really good ones and the not so good ones, then that is someone whose reviews I value as a likely indicator of whether I will like meeting that lady or not.  Put those under aliases and they lose most their value.

I understand your concern of a LE trail, but do you really believe that if there is a major push to find out hwo you are that this will make the difference?  If so, a simpler and more effective approach would be to have two distinct memberships on here (or any such site).  I know that is against the rules but with caution it would not be hard to do.  One to read and post, a totally seperate one for nothing but reviews.  I don't feel any need to since I have never seen the need to post anything--neither review nor coments--under an alias.  It I feel a date was "average" I will say so, but it is easy enough to do my homework and avoid the vast majority of poor sessions.  If I feel a woman needs to be warned against I want my handle associated with it because I assume it will give more credibility to such a warning.

Also, why do you think reviews would be more honest when cloaked in an additional layer of annonymity?  While a reviewer may be more willing to post a poor review that way it will also encourage more "reviews" that are blatantly false.

There was enough trouble in one major city where traveling ladies were trashed in advance of their arrival when they had nothing but good revews at home.  When the same few posters trashed numerous to-be visitors it sure seemed as if it was strictly to hurt their business and thereby help some local favorite or agency.

There is also an abumdance of highly inflated reviews already, why do you think alias reviews will stop the boyfriend/pimp/agency manager/boyfriend want to be from now posing even more reviews that are nothing but an ad?

Honesty in most cases is encouraged by openness and transparency.  Yes, there is sometimes need to protect a person's identity, but in this situation the harm of annonymity seriously outweighs the good.

If you post this comment (which is not hostile) with an alias, why should anyone believe that you will post a poor review under your real handle?

Just wondering.

And no, the whole point of this thread, I believe, is for people to complain (or support) the policy change and NOT "live with it".

I applaud Reagan for her well thought out post. This Recent change will end up ruining all the progress the new Ter has made over the last few years. I have no idea why it was implemented but it should be rethought and removed.

You state "sane providers" would be ok with this lol...what about all in "in" sane clientele ? This gives every cowardly psycho client a way to threaten US with retribution bc he wants to date us and we say no...it's clearly disregarding the provider in favor of the client.

one's TER handle is an alias. the review alias is just an alias of an alias. folks who are hobby hostile and want to put effort into it can certainly figure out rthe eview alias and link it to a handle. the review alias provides only a slight added inconvenience.

many of the alias posts are not really protective of the account handle's identity. folks often figure out the handle behind the alias. all one would have to do is spend some time reading the reviews written by the review alias and link them to the style of known reviewers. there is also computer software that can help that process along.

the idea that review aliases will provide some protection from the officialy hobby hostile is unrealistic. it is like wishing for a fig leaf. i wouldn't count on it.

Several times just today.

Just sayin

The number of people in the US with that access is less than the number of fingers on the hand of an industrial accident victim.  IF the person in question handed over what he was accused of, it would be largely worthless to LE.  Honestly, how much info would you want people like me to have?

LP, we go back a ways. You moderated me indefinitely. But I trust your judgement and I trust you. You've turned me on to some wonderful friends, thank you.

But this whole 'alias doing reviews' deal is fucking bullshit and you know it.

This site will turn into nothing but a huge fuckfest of back-stabbing, no accounting for mother-fuckers and cunts.

The one's that have any integrity will jump ship faster than shit.

Me? I'll kick back, drink inhand and watch. That's my nature, and you know this.

and I think it tells you what kind of "objective" reviews would start flooding the board.

Reagan, I just spent a good 30 minutes reading both your posts and kudos to you for such an enlightening explanation regarding the cons of this new implementation. I wholeheartedly agree with you.

While the Staff at TER has always been extremely helpful to me personally when it came to frauds trying to get free VIP or just someone who was upset that he was rejected, etc. this may no longer be the case.

Many men rely on certain reviewers only to see ladies. Who do they trust?

I really don't see much good that can come with this. Unfortunately, we don't live in a society where people always treat others the way they wish to be treated. Not only will it cause the negatives that you outlined, but it will most definitely cause a dramatic increase in the Staff's workload.

I hope the powers that be see the negative this will bring onto the playground for the ladies as well as the men.

Again, thank you for an insightful and informative post.

Laugh,

I think I may have to worry about your credibility now?

Please re-read the post above. I was not talking about the MODS, I was talking about ADMIN. I specifically say ADMIN. I only mentioned the mods as an example to show that Alias's are indeed linked to real TER ID. While only ADMIN has access to the personal information under your TER ID, The link is there. If ADMIN is penetrated, the Alias both posting and reviewing is compromised.

Phil is I am sure correct that the mods do not have access to your personal information on your TER ID. BUT ADMIN does, no matter how few ADMIN there are, somebody has a password.

Phil I am going to PM you this response as I am sure its buried 2nd page and will never be seen. But can you comment on Laughs statement that says MODS cant see who the Alias review is? I may have missed that in the original thread and would love to know if thats true. If you would rather not comment I can fully understand. Also if TER has finally issued some sort of statement or directions with respect to the new policy can you point me in that direction as well.  Thanks and have a great evening.