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ChristineGFE See my TER Reviews 121 reads
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Ok here again I will try tell my opinion and experience. Some I cut and paste from a very similar post I had in another area.

 
I am an Asian provider. I was born and raised in Asia ( Philippines ). I have been a provider for enough years to say I know more Asian providers than most. I have worked and lived in Manila, touring HK, SG and other places. I have moved full time to the USA.

 
Do you know why many Asians work in spa or AMP, because its temporary. It is something they can just walk into. All they need to be prepared is to fuck. They don't need to save for a place to live, they don't need to save for travel money, they don't need to prepare to learn how to place ads or run business or screen.  All parts of the business are taken care of by the Agency. The girl knows exactly what she will make, how much she will give to Agency and how long her obligation is. What you often see is the girl wants to stay, wants to continue and wants to still have all things taken care of by somebody else. Sometime what you see is girl gets smarter and more desire to stay but wants to work independent. Nobody forces girl to stay or tie them to bed.

South Koreans get a instant tourist visa to the US. A girl from Korea can come USA and earn 5 years income in 30 days. Chinese get instant Visa only if from HK and has the HK area stamp on it. Mainland Chinese must apply visa show a reason, not as easy or fast. Filipino, Viet, Cambodian all must apply tourist visa and take time, and very strict and most cannot qualify on their own. I am not talking future or current Wife Visa.This is why most asian massage is Korean.

 
For those that don't understand what its like in these countries, its hard explain. To be able to go somewhere, and make 5 years income after even giving half to the AMP is a dream many girls have. They can do sex work in their country, but yet it pays far less. So why not try sex work in the US.  

 
I am not a sex slave, I have no pimp or Agency. It took me years to work, save money, grow my business and finally get to the US. Many AMP girls don't have years to wait. They may have sick family, or many other reasons they just need work now.  I know providers that were raised in horrible poverty by US standards, and none of them are sex slaves. They can choose to sex work and make a better life, or they can choose not.  

 
Christine

jaytee6692653 reads

Asian 'massage parlors" provide some mileage, but are they "slaves" like politicians & press says?  San Francisco proved not.  Anyone know anything different in SoCal?

LE wants the public to buy in order to justify the expense and manpower invested in prosecuting a victimless crime.  Most every bust is followed up six months later by an investigative reporter showing the girls were released and are working again in another city, and the org owners who were facing 5 years for pimping were given 60 days and released as well.  Its a joke.  

In the past few years there were major busts in Seattle and NYC. No slavery. In NYC, the charges were mostly financial crimes: money laundering and stuff like that.

Posted By: jaytee669

Asian 'massage parlors" provide some mileage, but are they "slaves" like politicians & press says?  San Francisco proved not.  Anyone know anything different in SoCal?

then you're a wage slave.  The word gets bandied around too easily to fit the world view of those that oppose our enterprise.

 
To the extent that there is anything resembling slavery, do you know what the chains are made of?   The US fucking anti-prostitution laws, that's what.  Get rid of those laws, and you get rid of the chains.

 
Also, consider the options for these gals back in their home country:   Work on an assembly line for a few cents an hour and all the sexual harassment they can take, and that's if they are lucky.

GaGambler106 reads

Is this just so much more "research" on the sex business?

 
Ok, I will play along, While "sex slavery" is not an invention of Hollywood, pols and the MSM, it is completely overblown by all of the above for there own purposes. Nobody wants to conduct a "war" on consenting adults, no one wants to vote for a politician leading a crusade against people living their own lies and no one wants to read about consenting adults being put in jail for a "victimless crime" but EVERYBODY can support a war against "human trafficking" and "sex slavery" and NO ONE wants to be on record opposing the war against sex slavery.

 
I can only speak from my own experiences, but sex slaves do not have their own luxury apartments, they don't go out to sushi bars at night, they don't take vacations at the beach or at fancy casinos. Almost every one of these so called "sex slaves" that are rotated in and out of all the AMPS and AAMPS in almost every major (and minor) city in the country has a nice home somewhere in the country, most of them in either So Cal or NY. They spend their monthly vacations that revolve around Aunt Flo at home and then spend the next few weeks either in a city where they work full time or touring the various cities so as there will always be "new girls" at these places.  

 
I can pretty much guarantee you, if you are seeing girls at any of these strip center AMPS the chances are one in a million that she is there against her will. and I can also guarantee you that she is making more money than her average customer.

Ok here again I will try tell my opinion and experience. Some I cut and paste from a very similar post I had in another area.

 
I am an Asian provider. I was born and raised in Asia ( Philippines ). I have been a provider for enough years to say I know more Asian providers than most. I have worked and lived in Manila, touring HK, SG and other places. I have moved full time to the USA.

 
Do you know why many Asians work in spa or AMP, because its temporary. It is something they can just walk into. All they need to be prepared is to fuck. They don't need to save for a place to live, they don't need to save for travel money, they don't need to prepare to learn how to place ads or run business or screen.  All parts of the business are taken care of by the Agency. The girl knows exactly what she will make, how much she will give to Agency and how long her obligation is. What you often see is the girl wants to stay, wants to continue and wants to still have all things taken care of by somebody else. Sometime what you see is girl gets smarter and more desire to stay but wants to work independent. Nobody forces girl to stay or tie them to bed.

South Koreans get a instant tourist visa to the US. A girl from Korea can come USA and earn 5 years income in 30 days. Chinese get instant Visa only if from HK and has the HK area stamp on it. Mainland Chinese must apply visa show a reason, not as easy or fast. Filipino, Viet, Cambodian all must apply tourist visa and take time, and very strict and most cannot qualify on their own. I am not talking future or current Wife Visa.This is why most asian massage is Korean.

 
For those that don't understand what its like in these countries, its hard explain. To be able to go somewhere, and make 5 years income after even giving half to the AMP is a dream many girls have. They can do sex work in their country, but yet it pays far less. So why not try sex work in the US.  

 
I am not a sex slave, I have no pimp or Agency. It took me years to work, save money, grow my business and finally get to the US. Many AMP girls don't have years to wait. They may have sick family, or many other reasons they just need work now.  I know providers that were raised in horrible poverty by US standards, and none of them are sex slaves. They can choose to sex work and make a better life, or they can choose not.  

 
Christine

Google it, do math, then convert to USD. I might fuck you, but I wont do math for you.

 
Christine

Posted By: ChristineGFE
I might fuck you, but I wont do math for you.  
   
   
 Christine
Sounds like a fair trade to me.  :-D

I think its less. I looked up on google and says "average" is about 25,000 annual for office clerk. If you have degree yes its more.  That was for Korea.

For a filipino in Manila its much lower. No degree but some vocational train can get job clerical or store girl. Pay is about 7,200 yer or 30,000 php month.  

Christine

Asians that tour the country. Who fronts the money to pay their airfare to the U.S.? Assuming their handler fronts their airfare, how much of a cut does he get on their wages? Obviously he would have to get enough to to recoup his costs for airfare, lodging, food, and transportation between cities and then also get a return on his investment. I am not knocking the system as I probably fucked a lot of Asians that were being trafficked back on the 80's and 90's when the AMPs in DC around Chinatown were really running full speed.  Also, the Eastern Europeans that tour seem to almost have to fuck from the time they arrive in the city to when they leave.

Christine above me has given a pretty thorough explanation of how girls in massage parlors operate and I have nothing to add to that. But I think it is important to note that the US media often causes a huge ruckus about folks trafficked into sex slavery when the number for human trafficking is much higher in farming. A number thoroughly investigated and credited by now.  

It's just easier to send cops after sex workers and make a headline out of it. I'm not saying folks are not trafficked into sex slavery, but those numbers are far more inflated for a heart wrenching tale and political campaign donations than anything else.  

If your concern about someone persists, I'd anonymously alert your local sex work collective. They are often resourceful when it comes to these things.  

These are all media buzz words, or hot topics. to sell the news. Journalists know the American public will believe anything without question. How come you never heard about the subject in Germany? The people there ask too many questions and force journalists to prove what they are saying.

Give it six more months. When it stops selling the news it will disappear.

Does sex slavery exist? Yup, but mostly in Saudi and third world countries, but young providers know to say, "victim" and other buzz words like, "trafficked," "slave", and it's a automatic "get out of jail free" card.

it's all BS

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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