Introductory  emails that refer to anything sexual in return for money go into the shit can.

I can see where it would be very tempting to go for a $4,000 date, but isn't the risk of LE in a case that this too high to even consider? At the very least he is indiscreet and I would think a "sophisticated and experienced" provider would simply dump his request in the trash bin.

Ok, so I thought this would be a fun share for the Ladies & Gents of this world on a Sunday morning. It's what I think is kind of a funny and silly email, at least to me, but also puzzling and I'm hoping the kind posters of TER could help me understand it just a bit so I can actually wrap my brain around it lol. I thank you in advance.

Hey, someone had to say it. lol

I have to think that there are three possibilities here.

1) She really needs the four grand and caution is being thrown to the wind

2) She wants to brag to the community that someone wants to spend four grand on her.

3) She made the whole thing up

Any guess as to which of those options my money is on?

asking you on a 4K date? Looks like you are getting wet in panties that you have a high roller coming to you - if at all everything you say is to be believe - which BTW, I discount 95% of it.  

real request lol. 4k dates happen more often than not for lots of ladies, you'd be amazed.

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Seems to me that if a john is putting that shit in an email and negotiating that crap someone's not being terribly discreet.  Most of the gals would cut off communication when a john is being that indiscreet.  Maybe you've seen this dude already?  And he's been screened so it's OK to have that chit chat now?

Posted By: TaylorSteele

Ok, so I thought this would be a fun share for the Ladies & Gents of this world on a Sunday morning. It's what I think is kind of a funny and silly email, at least to me, but also puzzling and I'm hoping the kind posters of TER could help me understand it just a bit so I can actually wrap my brain around it lol. I thank you in advance.  
   
 Now I know this is a #'s business on both sides of the coin and while I don't get tons of email, when I do, it's usually with gentlemen who have put a lot of thought into their first words with me. And for that I thank them. For they usually know, words are everything to a woman in the start of communication, especially if they know me. But one came thru recently and was presented in a fashion I had not experienced before and on the ummmm, 'unique' side of things. It was most certainly one I had not encountered of it's kind in this world as of yet. After a 'brief' introduction from him, this sentence followed, and it essentially came out like an equation in math class and read like this......  
   
 Hello Ms. Steele, I am requesting a $4k date which = 4 orgasms.  
   
 I mean he worded it like this, literally. Now mind you, I am trying not to giggle as I'm reading it, cause I thought it was kinda cute but funny too and as I stated, it most deff puzzled me. So I was thinking, where in the Companionship Bible does it state that any donation amount is the equivalent to any amount of orgasms. Did I miss that verse somewhere? Is this what really goes in the mind of gentlemen here as a whole? Or only a select few. Is this Punked? LOL  
   
 Anyhow, yes I will agree a 4k date is indeed a pricey one and they come around everyday for many women. So for some it's not that big of a request. For me any date request I take seriously, no matter what the amount. But I guess I would like to know if this kind of thing comes from the mind of most of you gentlemen here...$$$=PopAmount. I mean do you gentlemen really equate a dollar amount to the number of how many orgasms you think you are allowed to 'try' and get out of any said date. And I only say 'try' because I think some try so hard about the quantity, that they forget about the quality and how mindblowing one or two good ones can really be on 'any' date no matter the cost.  
   
 According to his equation, obviously that's 1k per Pop. I would think most gents on here would expect at least double that out of a 4k date or triple? LOL (yes I am kidding) But should I be eating energy bars on the hour every hour with a date like this?  
   
 Ladies, more importantly, please tell me how you would've personally responded to this email if it was sent to you.  
   
 Thank you and Happy Sunday.

-- Modified on 3/23/2014 7:38:42 AM

DrPepper?

...Yes, I'm that old. She and others I gather charged by the pop. She recounted once how hard it was to keep count during an orgy she held at her business establishment.

...explicit talk is OK, you should just say No by not responding. It's very indiscrete.

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Strange for sure...are you expected to extend the time until he gets the fourth out no matter how long it takes?  Conversely, can you leave after 4 if you get them out of him in a few hours?  And as others have noted explicit talk in an e-mail?  No bueno.

In my case, when I am contacting a provider, I'm not specifically looking for one that allows multiple pops.  

I'm still betting that the OP is suggesting that there is a dude from the boards who is the example in her OP.

Really.

I don't equate any amount of pops to the length/amount spent of the date. I've had 2 pops in a 1 hour date and 2 seems to be the norm but I've also had 3 in a two hour date. I had a 7 hour (show date) in which I had 4 pops, but 3 1/2 hours was involved at the show so no pops there. She insisted on the 4th before our date ended and technically gave me OTC time because she had to shower and reapply makeup before leaving my room, and during that time she asked me to hang out in the bathroom and continue our conversation so the total date was more like 7:45. As I said my typical encounter is 2 pops but not restricted to any number.

If this said $400 instead of $4,000, you would have flushed it.  I don't get any kind of charming out of it, I get jerk.

I drink a lot of water, a lot of booze of course, coffee, and juices. I don't even like soda as mixer for my booze. When I do mix my booze, about the only mixer I ever use for my liquor is I have developed a taste for vodka and cranberry juice. I can drink it at about the same pace as beer with out getting shit faced, and without the beer belly I was developing

Lots of pulling people apart, watching condoms flying towards the waste can (oops, pre condom days).  Would be a funny scene in a movie.

While these were true words on a screen, I felt the need to also post it publicly to show that this thought process does indeed exist. And it is simply NOT ok if that thinking does go on. I guess sort of a PSA announcement if you will for those gents who actually equate dollar amount to pops. It's not right no matter how you butter the biscuit.

I don't think about it in a one hour session and I don't think about it in a 2 day session. As long as the lady is not denying me sex while "on the clock" how many times I finish is completely irrelevant to me.

Nice quote. What are you trying to say exactly?

that I could suspect you could grasp anything from that. Read my post to the Humanist, perhaps you'll get your answer.  

that soda is "poison that the government sells", but I can tell you this, I stopped drinking soda 2 years ago and I feel great. I'm not sure what the government stands to gain by selling us soda, but your view is shared by a lot of people I've spoken with. My drink addiction is black coffee and unsweetened iced tea, and I shouldn't leave out Bourbon, yummy

I don't agree with your 'multiple' pops during a single session thinking. Just let things flow naturally. I don't get it. Why do you have to count? What does that measure? Someone please explain it to me. No one is.

but I never got that she charged per pop, interesting. I remember reading penthouse forum and spanking my monkey, dang he's been a bad monkey for a long time

Uh I'll play mum all 3?

lol too funny. Where's the black helo's?

Assuming of course, it ever happened and that if it did that the guy is a TER member.

Or maybe he's already read it and is too embarrassed to admit it. I will say on the probability scale, I would give this a higher chance of being at least based in fact than Turdy's fantasy racist provider of yesterday.

Speaking of Turdy, I haven't seen him post today, is he still all butt hurt from his latest turn as the board piñata?

and the "date" ended up being weeks.

like that to some of my regulars. $$ per pop. My formula would be a little more $$ per pop than a normal session so at the end of the day, she wouldn't get less. I just thought it would be interesting/exciting to see how the session would be different, if at all, if there was an incentive to make me nut. I have not suggested it to any yet, for fear of screwing up a good thing.

Talks big, but never comes through, and is most likely known board mangina Hmmm, not a pretty picture so far.

I've always said that if I ever actually agreed with Taylor, I would say so. I guess that day has finally come, but I would still love for our friend from AZ to come on the board and defend himself, but in fairness to Taylor, unlike yesterday with Turdy, I have to confess I wouldn't ask her to name names. For some reason there is a double standard in effect here, but rather than ask her to reveal his identity, I'll just call him a pussy for not responding, but somehow I bet he is someone who's been called a pussy on this board before. Any Takers?

They actually expected me to add up my airfare, hotel etc divide it by the number of women I saw and the number of pops I got and see if I was "getting value" compared to simply staying at home and seeing local girls.

I am sure you can guess what my response was, I'll give you two hints, it starts with a "Go" and ends with a "Yourself" lmao

It might not end up being such a highly paid date, after all.  

Posted By: TaylorSteele

Ok, so I thought this would be a fun share for the Ladies & Gents of this world on a Sunday morning. It's what I think is kind of a funny and silly email, at least to me, but also puzzling and I'm hoping the kind posters of TER could help me understand it just a bit so I can actually wrap my brain around it lol. I thank you in advance.  
   
 Now I know this is a #'s business on both sides of the coin and while I don't get tons of email, when I do, it's usually with gentlemen who have put a lot of thought into their first words with me. And for that I thank them. For they usually know, words are everything to a woman in the start of communication, especially if they know me. But one came thru recently and was presented in a fashion I had not experienced before and on the ummmm, 'unique' side of things. It was most certainly one I had not encountered of it's kind in this world as of yet. After a 'brief' introduction from him, this sentence followed, and it essentially came out like an equation in math class and read like this......  
   
 Hello Ms. Steele, I am requesting a $4k date which = 4 orgasms.  
   
 I mean he worded it like this, literally. Now mind you, I am trying not to giggle as I'm reading it, cause I thought it was kinda cute but funny too and as I stated, it most deff puzzled me. So I was thinking, where in the Companionship Bible does it state that any donation amount is the equivalent to any amount of orgasms. Did I miss that verse somewhere? Is this what really goes in the mind of gentlemen here as a whole? Or only a select few. Is this Punked? LOL  
   
 Anyhow, yes I will agree a 4k date is indeed a pricey one and they come around everyday for many women. So for some it's not that big of a request. For me any date request I take seriously, no matter what the amount. But I guess I would like to know if this kind of thing comes from the mind of most of you gentlemen here...$$$=PopAmount. I mean do you gentlemen really equate a dollar amount to the number of how many orgasms you think you are allowed to 'try' and get out of any said date. And I only say 'try' because I think some try so hard about the quantity, that they forget about the quality and how mindblowing one or two good ones can really be on 'any' date no matter the cost.  
   
 According to his equation, obviously that's 1k per Pop. I would think most gents on here would expect at least double that out of a 4k date or triple? LOL (yes I am kidding) But should I be eating energy bars on the hour every hour with a date like this?  
   
 Ladies, more importantly, please tell me how you would've personally responded to this email if it was sent to you.  
   
 Thank you and Happy Sunday.

-- Modified on 3/23/2014 7:38:42 AM

Seriously, how clueless do you have to be to contact a provider and equate specific dollar amounts with specific sex acts? Good lord.

He's too old...but I guess he could lie as well about that.

Nope...dudes like him are happy to be time wasters and run when they are afraid to make that commitment.

For me, being an accountant about it like that would suck out all the fun (no pun intended).  Going in with an attitude of "if I don't get x number of pops I'm not getting my money's worth" is like saying Titanic was a better value than Pulp Fiction, the latter being 2.5 hours of cinematic genius and the former 3.5 hours of nauseating dreck, because it was longer.  No thanks, I'll just enjoy what pops may come (ugh, that reminds me of a terrible robin williams movie!)

I won't name him either...that's up to Taylor.  But I will reply to a PM should anyone want to know who the dude is.  

I've had gals guess mine...and they're usually off by at least 5...sometimes 10 years.

I don't understand where the disagreement lies. You said "go with the flow". I said basically the same thing when I said about the vibe thing.

this guy is a known TER poster, one who regularly calls out guys like me and CPA for being "mean" He's been given plenty of opportunity to come on here and tell his side of the story, but so far. SILENCE.

I guess his days of preaching to others are over, because he has accomplished what many here would have believed to be impossible, He got me to actually take Taylor's side on a issue, and I am even doing it publicly.

Of course he is still free to come on here and tell us how wrong we are, but some how that's not appearing too likely right now.

Wow, this has been an interesting weekend, first I had to eat my words and apologize to a provider that definitely deserved an apology from me, and today I am siding with Taylor. What's next, will Turdy and I become buddies??? Not fucking likely lmao

-- Modified on 3/23/2014 3:36:07 PM

Otherwise, why doesn't he just book an overnight or something? It sounds "off" to me... I wouldn't even answer.

'pop' numerous times it makes me a lil fired up lol. I apologize, I did understand it was simply a reference oh peaceful one. Can we walk thru the forest together? That would be the start of a beautiful date.  

A sexy blonde little bird once told me you resemble this dude (if true, it makes sense. He's aged well)...

No, if I wanted to name the individual I would have done that myself. This was more of a PSA announcement as I had stated that this kind of thinking is uncalled for in this world. Enjoy your time with a woman and whatever happens...happens.  

And hopping around to avoid some nasty clothespins.  The girl simply was never going to be TER Hooker Jeopardy Champion.

about this and if I could share the rest of the story, I would, but I cannot. Learn from this if you could and NEVER mention the word POP ever again in front, around, or over my head please LOL. I am not a POP kinda girl, thought most gentlemen gathered that from what I call my 'marketing' of myself in this world. Ok, I'll say it one time and one time only...I have had many dates where there were a few multiple pops, but they were NEVER EVER planned by him nor by me. It's all how the evening goes between the two individuals involved. And that is something you cannot predict. Simply go with the flow. End of discussion.  

I tell them, Hun POP as many times as you in the session whether is an hr session to a multi-hour, the more poos the more sex we r having!!! That's very delish to me!!!  Woo whoo.....

Yep...those whiny little mangina types always want to defend someone's honor.  In this case it would be his  LOL

Posted By: TaylorSteele

No, if I wanted to name the individual I would have done that myself. This was more of a PSA announcement as I had stated that this kind of thinking is uncalled for in this world. Enjoy your time with a woman and whatever happens...happens.  
   
 Let it go you two or I'll come there and spank you both. Although you may like it.  
   
 

Sometimes guys who consider themselves 'in the know' think they can play by different rules. I used to receive some stooooopid emails from guys on my local board. I would just shake ny head, and wonder how on earth they got so many women to see them.

Dances,

Posted By: TaylorSteele

'pop' numerous times it makes me a lil fired up lol. I apologize, I did understand it was simply a reference oh peaceful one. Can we walk thru the forest together? That would be the start of a beautiful date.  
   
 DancesAmongFlowers (you can call me this if you'd like)  
   
 

-- Modified on 3/23/2014 12:55:57 PM

nature as a backdrop is a beautiful thing indeed.

redder than red LOL.

I won't be visiting AZ anytime soon, even though there are so many positive things about the state.

I haven't specifically mentioned who this asswipe is...and won't publicly.

But you and the dude in question do have many similarities....make sure to bring those pearls.  And don't be a fucking time waster...keep the appointment and don't be a prick!

Very beautiful indeed but Scottsdale puzzled me a bit. It's a bunch of 20-60 yo reliving Spring Break all day long into the night lol. Not my scene particularly. Everyone is drunk by noon or still drunk from the night before and continue that drinking til 3am in the morning. And the ladies? OMG the plethora of young hotties would twist your neck and then some GAG. They come a dime a dozen. The land of the 'beautiful' people. Though extremely friendly but ridiculously superficial and fun to watch nonetheless especially where I was staying. Vegas meets Jersey Shore, a hoot for sure.

Mr. Tidwell, unless one abuses the system here. That's when I get pissed, when nice lil ol' me gets taken advantage of. And yes it happens. I'm a sweet but tough lil cookie remember despite my bitchy board persona LOL that has evolved. It is kinda fun being a bitch sometimes (for those who can read thru the lines lol). I bet I'd surprise even you if and when we ever did meet like most who do take the time to meet me (it's my lil secret but shhh don't give it away). No getting enamored, just enjoy any time together. And dinner sounds fabulous.....but remember wear something sharp. Appearance on a first date is most important. Leads to very good things.  

Just sayin...BTW where is he today?

BLAH. Being a poop again I see Mr. Shanahan. Irish huh? Not a stitch in me lol.

I'm assuming that you like seeing them and that might well accomplish the opposite.

The number of "pops", for X amount.  It is about the time spent together and having fun.  Whatever the price, if you are willing to pay it for the lady you are contacting, you must keep in mind that in the end it is all about how you interact.  You were right to turn down this dude's request.  It was disrespectful in an initial contact and sounds like either a newb to the hobby, or a moron.  Electronic communication in emails and texts are easy to use as evidence by LE.  I have never had explicit talk with a provider that I have seen via email or text.  Likewise, it strikes me that he is treating it like a pure numbers game and discounting what his own limitations might be.  He is objectifying the experience by "pop".  You might as well be a flesh light to this guy.  Glad you said no.

just getting off a number of "pops" otherwise they would book me or see someone else for less.

But there are many more across that lovely country.
The ice cream is yummy and you can meet hot chicks there

can stay true to who he his in this process and who completely understands what this is. Only do what 'you' can do and if you can't then that's ok too. Promises and talking don't work for many gals here including me. I personally like things kept very simple. Only book when you are seriously ready and not when you 'think' you are ready, two totally different things. And 'the' most important thing is to always stay within 'your' own means. If considerations are outside of those means, then it usually is not meant to be. That does more harm than good in most cases.

-- Modified on 3/24/2014 12:41:37 AM

for the true players of this world who drop that kind of coin without blinking an eye, some gentlemen would shudder to think that in most cases one 'pop' isn't remotely part of that picture either. They are in this game for true companionship at a completely different level.