I am not one to tolerate when people whine about the review scoring.  We are dealing with an inherently subjective criterion and there is no way to get it standardized. to attempt is a fools errand.  That said I was reading through some reviews and this the juicy detail section where this monger gave the prostitute a 3.   If you read through, she does BBBJ,  69, and multiple positions.  Obviously he wasn't attracted to her and they didn't click but its clear that she's a good prostitute and is trying to satisfy him.

Even before this they started with him massaging her.  I'd think that what she did she is worth at least a five or six.  

Just goes to show that you need to review the whole review and not rely on what the numbers are.

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"After I finished rubbing her down I was now fully ready. She started a BBBJ. Not really that good. She was rushing it like she wanted me to pop. I suggested that she sit on my face and hoped she would be more enthusiastic about her end. We started a 69 which was cool. She seemed to get more into it. After a while of this she says she wants me to fuck her hard. We started mish, then to doggie. I couldn't get my nut. I was pounding her hard. I thought I was gonna hurt her. I am about 180 pounds heavier than her. She then flipped back over to mish. I thought some eye contact might get me done. Nope! I couldn't believe this I have never gone this long without a pop. She then tells me that I gotta pop soon or she will have to BBBJ for finish. No way! Her skills there are lacking and I would never finish. My time was running out. I said let's go back to doggie. She flipped over and added some lube. I asked her to close her legs to get her tighter. That did it. I pounded that pussy for all I could. After pop she asked me if I wanted to shower since I was completely drenched. I washed up and we chatted. She said she was a bit sore. Here is the bottom line. She is a very mature woman. She isn't very good. I would not repeat and suggest unless you are into lousy lays go elsewhere. Sorry but I was horny as all hell and couldn't believe it took that much effort to get one nut. Should have picked up the last woman standing at a local, would have been cheaper and better."

Why read it?  And when you pm's the reviewer, what was his explanation?  It does seem strange.

Why you call the "provider" a prostitute? I have been called an escort, companion, provider....yet never a prostitute!
Just curious...
Arianna

I don't like euphemisms.  Someone who earns a living by having sex with multiple people for money is a prostitute.  

I don't have a moral qualm about sex for money transactions but mental gymnastics aside that is what the people do here.  I enjoy the company of the prostitues and like to spend a decent percentage of my discretionary income on them.  

Now I realize that not every time you see someone there is sex.  However I'm sure that is what you are expecting when there is a new guy who wishes to see you.  I highly doubt that if a new monger made an appointment to see you, and he came to your incall with envelope in hand you would refuse sex after accepting the envelope.  I highly doubt that you would say "Oh Tom,  I'm just not in the mood tonight.  Lets just go for a walk and hold hands."  Had you ever do that you would be tagged as a ripoff.  Therefore if a guy comes to your place and he has the money and he wants to have sex,  you will have sex with him regardless of whether he is a guy you are remotely attracted to.  That to my mind fits the definition of a prostitute.

Words like "provider" and "hobbyist" are totally ridiculous.  They beg the question and obfuscate.  What does a "provider" provide?  Sex.  What does the "provider" demand to have sex?  Money.  

no offense(although when someone starts with that, someone is bound to be offended) but if it walks like a ducks, quacks like a duck, acts like a duck... you get my point, its just semantics.

Yeah just a word of advice calling a ter provider a "prostitute" will get you nowhere. Yes I understand we do what they do but it's a word with a lot of stigma on it. Please be more kind and use another word.

THAT being said why do you think the numbering is off with a 3? He clearly says "Here is the bottom line. She is a very mature woman. She isn't very good. I would not repeat and suggest unless you are into lousy lays go elsewhere."...there are some women out there who will try to please but overall are just bad at physical things in general. SO maybe this is the case. I can put all my heart and effort into singing but yet I will never be a singer because I suck! Same thing...

Now the other side of this is maybe he is one of the reviewers who are never happy. Unless you are a Jenna Jameson he rates you lower for no reason. This is why ter sometimes doesn't accept one review that someone submits that is dractically different than her other reviews listed. ALSO if you are not attracted to your provider that does affect your experience since men are very visual.

It means to degrade or devalue; and I don't see what the gals doing as that at all.   If anything, marriage is more prostitution than P4P, but that is a whole other subject.

I don't like euphemism any more than you, and I agree that the term provider is not perfect, neither is sex-worker, goddess, etc.

When the right term finally comes along, I guess we'll all know it.

But if they see a provider is not their type they shouldn't be stupid and pressed for a nut and go and see someone they know they aren't/won't be attracted to and then he doesn't like his session much because of his poor judgement.

ecdystist.  Sounds classy and you won't get any grief from your SO if you tell them that you have to go see your eceysist today.

They think that you're just getting your throat scrapped or toenails clipped or something like that.

and if it hadn't gotten such a negative conotation over the years, it would do very nicely.  Things could change though.

Queer had a negative conotation, but now many gay rights activists embrace the word.

Back in the late 19th century, Jews refered to themselves as Hebrews, but today Jews are proud to be Jews.

I'd love it if some providers started embracing the word whore and we could all go back to that.

It describes a lusty fun loving woman who will share her treasures with you for generous consideration.  That's exactly what we're all about here.

we wouldn't be here. I would rather not use those silly euphemisms either, but it's pretty much a requirement "when in Rome". On the other hand, I remember a time when calling a stripper a stripper was considered crude and disrespectful. Perhaps "prostitute chic" will come along and change things.

He gave her a C for effort but an F for accomplishment. Ratings are supposed to be given not solely for the acts performed. The quality of performance, etc., counts, too. In this case, it doesn't sound like the reviewer made her job any easier or any fun either, to say the least.

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Hobbyist makes me think of a stamp collector.  I'd rather be called a "John."  I prefer "monger," though it's not even accurate (a real monger is the seller of a product, not the buyer -- think "fish monger.").   Say...that's it...  providers could call themselves fish mongers. Honey!  I'll have two pounds of that fine, sushi-grade, Tuna!"

First we're not supposed to call them whores.  Then prostitute becomes offensive.  Next thing you know we're supposed to buy them gifts and ask about their day in hopes that just maybe they'll relent and have sex with us.  Don't get me wrong, I love women.  I'd bet that if you could have an honest conversation with an escort, they dislike having sex with strange (in more ways than one) guys more than being called prostitutes.

Make the PC cops leave the room.

H. L. Mencken is credited with coining the word "ecdysiast", from "ecdysis", meaning "to molt". He did so in response to a request from Gypsy Rose Lee for a "more dignified" way to refer to her profession.[

The closest I've heard is providers embracing the term "ho", sort of ironically: "My ho phone", etc. As with "queer", for someone else to use it could be another matter.

It seems that many of these terms start out as either slurs or jokes, then lose that sense over time. I believe "hobby" was first used with full awareness of its absurdity, but now it's usually said with a straight face.

One of my favorite terms of endearment is "sex worker". It tries to sound so clinical, but it cracks me up every time.....and gets me hot.

Escort, companion, provider.  Those are just nice words. But you ladies must all must face the fact that if you advertise your services and men pay you to fuck, then you are a prostitute.  Plain and simple.  You are a prostitute by any definition of the word and if you are ever arrested you will not be charged with companioning or providing or escorting, you will be charged with prostitution.

I love the women on this site, but lets get real.  No matter how you sugar coat it, you are all prostitutes.

It will only get someone nowhere if they have an aversion to the English language and using words properly.  There is no judgement in calling a woman or man who engages in sex acts for money a prostitute and more than calling the man who fixed my electrical circuits an 'electrician'.

Far too many people on this site act like they are somehow better or more refined than prostitutes and johns.

Whore is a term that is meant to degrade.  Prostitute is a man or woman who earns a living by having sex for money or other compensation with multiple people.

Prostitute doesn't imply judgement unless you believe that having sex for money is a negative.

I get LE reasons for not using it since it is illegal.  However here where we are discussing these activities can't we be honest and use the standard English terms for what we do.

Except for the uptight, politically correct faction here, I doubt most of the ladies here really care what you call them, as long as you call them. (with a full envelope of course)

We are all on a fucking hooker/john board for fucks sake, why all this angst over labels?

This PC cop shit has got to stop, Prostitute, hooker, john, trick, what the fuck is really the difference? I am not going to be brow beaten by a hooker into calling her something else as to not offend her sensibilities.

and FWIW, I don't pay for time and companionship either. I pay to have NSA sex, and for the freedom to "not call her" if I don't want to.

I find it highly amusing to read that a woman is not being paid for sex, but fucking her in the ass costs extra. Do these women not see the irony? lmao

After reading even just that part of the review, I wouldn't see that particular provider on a bet.

Bad is bad, I don't care what the numerical score is. Not to mention you can't fix old and ugly no matter how hard you try.

Call me a pig, but I am not paying money to fuck old, fat and ugly women.

Agree that they are highly subjective. Was just reading a review of a girl who didn't provide a certain service and it was obvious he rated her lower for looks, calling her basically unattractive etc because she didn't provide the service. Funny thing is that the reviewer has ratings of 9 -10 of other girls who in my opinion are 6-7. Sometimes when I read them I find them somewhat suspect.

I'm paying NOT to fuck my wife.  At least she's not really old or ugly.  Does that mean I am getting a good deal?

Providers Provide MOre than Sex !! They Provide a fantasy of how we would want to be . Like the Step-ford wives kinda of thing . Using the harsh word of Prostitute is harsh and classless . I picture them in Ac walking up the boulevard or NYC  doing it anywhere and everywhere they can !! A provider or Escort or companion is like you can take them anywhere have a great time mingle in the crowd and then come home and OOOO BOY !! Not too get anyones nose out of joint but its just the way I feel . Oh No alias also needed . we need not too hide from our opinions

Well he did and then decided to bitch about it...a real genius.

Lmao this thread has gone totally off topic..Talk about a thread jack