doesn't make it right. I don't think this is where anyone should come looking for love. Of course this is just my opinion and everyone's got one. I think a lot of times amazing sex is mistook for emotional compatibility.
No not everyone is following those rules but this hobby is not supposed to be about finding love. It's about filling voids in marriages or variety in life. I personally would not want any one of my clients to leave their SO's for me because I am not about being in the same place their SO is now....ten years from now. For those that think it won't happen to them, please remember that history tends to repeat itself more often than not.
Like I said, just my opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own.
....ever gotten 'super attached'to an escort.I have been a regular of a stunning young lady now for over a year.We clicked, not only sexually, but in other ways too. My feelings were getting too strong for her, especially when she commented on wanting to do 'other stuff' with me too...go to concerts,etc.Because of this, I tried to stay away,but couldn't.So, I tried another approach, I thought maybe seeing another 'lady'would maybe stop my obsession with her.So, I asked her for a reference, which she duly gave.....the only thing is I couldn't go through with my other date, and now the original lady is obviously very pissed with me, not answering e-mails,calls,etc.Just wondering if anyone else has had this dilemna???
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I think that sometimes a connection is established between two people. It doesn't matter what the setting - even here, it happens. Wherever people gather together, this will happen eventually.
It's what you do about it that matters.
First, are you saying that the person you are "attached" to is upset? I'm not sure I understand why. Is this because you decided to see someone else? That's certainly your right.
Communication is the key. If you are developing feelings, tell her. She may or may not be comfortable with that. Most of the time, providers already have significant others and lives, and they don't want those interrupted. However, they may allow feelings and true friendships, so long as there is the understanding that it can't go further. Either way, communicating and confirming boundaries is always a good thing.
Whatever happens should be between you and your lady. Every relationship that a client and lady has is different. Don't let anyone tell you what is right or wrong; it's up to both of you to decide what works for you.
There have been many great, nurturing relationships between people. There's also been ones that have ended very badly, as one person expects too much. The real key is to be open and communicate. This keeps the expectations on both sides in check.
Did you tell your lady why you wanted to see someone else?
eom.
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Becoming too attached... happens all the time... and usually doesn't work out well, at least seldom to both party's satisfaction. I am too attached to my ATF... I didn't ask for a referal! But I have seen others for several months. When I went back, the feelings flooded back.
More recently we've talked about feelings... The thing is, I have it easy, since I'm married & going to stay that way.
Where do YOU want this relationship to go? Look inward, and then takes steps to make it happen... or NOT if that's what you want. A civie relationship with a provider has lots of pitfalls. Many posts on this read back!
skb
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I have been lucky in that I have met a number of lovely extremely appealing ladies. I have, during the past five or six years, become really attached to two of them (and somewhat to two others) but it has always been kept real. Some time ago, I got really close with two others. I have stayed friends with them both. One is married now and we are friends to this day,the second got married, divorced, and we have lost touch. I adore the four I have seen most recently and I hope they really like me, but it has stayed there. I am not sure what I would do if it got crazy. I guess I am too self protected to have allowed things to get too dangerous.
Hobbying is about getting lots of bites of interesting apples. I knew that this is what I always wanted to do and I enjoy it and plan to continue this way.
Some gals become regulars for a long period of time and become friends. I also end up entangled to some extent with their lives for better or worse and that is just the way life should be. But these are not SO's nor do they regard themselves as my SO.
I have one orange, and that is Bev Fisher. I suppose some people can see their way to have more than one SO but for now I am not one of those.
Nevertheless, such a relationship is not a hobbying one. For a SO relationship to work, each individual has to assess the circumstances of their lives and make a pretty clear eyed decision about whether to go there.
In my case, Bev and I had the circumstances to allow us to proceed and we had the natural chemestry and view points about things, etc. that bode well for this. Only our geographical circumstances stand in the way but with the internet and air travel, we are making it work.
You might want to post this on The Erotic Highway Board to get The Love Goddess' take on this as well.
I have come to realize this is a wonderful, safe way for me to experience connections, intensity and passion. If I want more than is realistic then it is no longer fun. I enjoy my inner world of beautiful feelings, memories and daydreams between meetings and that is enough for me. Nothing better than experiencing intense chemistry knowing I do not have to deal with all the intricacies of a long term relationship. I am very pleased about this as I've had enough complicated relationships for this lifetime. So the chances of my wanting more than someone can comfortably give are pretty slim at this point.
Your situation sounds complicated and not very much fun at all. Hopefully once she is less angry you guys can have an honest converstion about what both of you need and want.
Good luck.
and although most will tell you to forget making a caring relationship with a provider work, it's worked very well for me.
This is a chance for both you and the lady to do some serious work on yourselves and how you engage in relationships. It's a chance to be completely open and honest with each other and construct a relationship that's as conscious as possible. That's hard work but well worth it.
Have you told the lady about your feelings and fears? If not, do so as soon as appropriate. Good luck and have a great time on the ride!!
First and foremost is to do no harm...
It is hard to offer intimacy and yet not carry it too far. To care about someone but not lead them astray.
We ladies are human too and many of our friends are very kind and comforting to us. Sex is the very basic part of the hobby and is offered by every provider. The intimate part, when you peel back any pretence and open your emotions, is something that can be very problematic for some.
Many new gentlemen to the hobby have never felt this before and be quite confused by their emotions. They are searching for answeres and relief from a less than perfect marriage.
Sometimes it is hard on both the provider and the gentlemen, but is best to walk away.
Kisses Haley
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I'm in agreement but don't think for a second that the rest of the world is abiding by your rules.
Also FYI, I personally know of 4 situations where a man left his wife for his ATF.
I know of 3 situations where it worked out, I'm sure there might be more.
xo Lisa
doesn't make it right. I don't think this is where anyone should come looking for love. Of course this is just my opinion and everyone's got one. I think a lot of times amazing sex is mistook for emotional compatibility.
No not everyone is following those rules but this hobby is not supposed to be about finding love. It's about filling voids in marriages or variety in life. I personally would not want any one of my clients to leave their SO's for me because I am not about being in the same place their SO is now....ten years from now. For those that think it won't happen to them, please remember that history tends to repeat itself more often than not.
Like I said, just my opinion. Everyone is entitled to their own.
huh ?
Just because someone fell in love and got married from this business doesn't make it right ?
Noone say the hobby is about finding love but, sometimes it does happens.
Love can happen anywhere... the situation doesn't make it right or wrong.
Lisa
Just that I don't think that it was the intent of either part when coming into this hobby. Most came here for something different than the monogamous relationships they are already in. In other words, this isn't the ideal place (in my opinion only) to look for true love and soul mates. I can think of about 10 others. If it happens that's great! I wish them luck and all the happiness! I just don't think that was what was on their mind when they began the hobby.
Who ever said that this is the place to look for true love and soul mates ?
What is wrong that you can't read a post for what it is and you have to assume and infer into it ?
Lisa
I guess no one is allowed to have an opinion that doesn't coincide with yours or there must be something wrong with them. Maybe this board should be the Lisa-Butler Board instead of TER?
I don't want this to be a big issue. I just don't understand why some people cant just let other people think the way they choose to think. If some choose to follow a "code of ethics" or "Hippocratic Oath" and want to make it known here...then let them. It doesn't mean there is something wrong with them or that there is anything wrong with your opinion either. So what if someone get's more out of what they are reading than others. I just don't understand why some people are so easy to pounce on others for their thinking about this issue.
I should have held my tongue on the last post but why if no one else is?
Think of the education you get reading knowledgable posts from likeminded people. I myself have changed opinions of things by reading and understanding other peoples issues on a subject.
In an open forum such as this, arbitration of any kind is good and informative. It makes us think and get involved.
I for one checked out what hormones do to female bodybuilders clits.
Kisses Haley
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I agree! You have a very good way of putting things my Haley! Hope you are having a good day! Hugs!
Perhaps you weren't the only one who developed genuine feelings for someone. As a provider, I have had special relationships with clients, and on very rare occasions, I've developed romantic feelings. On those occasions, I made a conscious decision to open myself up a little more (no small feat, mind you), in hopes of developing a deeper relationship with the man. Now, had any of these men reacted to me the way you've reacted to this favorite lady of yours, I probably would have responded the same way she did. Sure, I'd give you a nice reference - and then I'd immediately withdraw my vulnerability from you, after you showed me the feelings weren't mutual. I'd probably also have my feelings hurt a little, be disappointed, and eventually I'd agree to see you again - but not until I reconciled my feelings for you.
I'm not sure why you think your feelings for her are a bad thing. Perhaps you're married or otherwise unavailable. Or perhaps you feel they're one sided. But you'll never know if you don't communicate your thoughts to her. I understand its easy for hobbyists to confuse sexual intimacy with real "love", but this sounds different. I obviously don't know the lady in question, but I personally would not volunteer or suggest spending time together off the clock, if the potential for deeper attachment was not there. So talk to her and be completely honest.
If you are seeing a lady on a regular basis, one you get along with and have great chemistry with -- how can you not get attached?
I do have one regular who tells me often that he is in love with me. We have always gotten on together swimmingly. The important thing is that he knows that this doesn't mean I can give him any more than I already do. He understands the boundaries of our relationship, and why they exist. For the record, I love him, too, although not romantically.
I cannot imagine getting angry with him if I was asked to give a reference for him... of course, I would feel a brief twinge of jealousy, because that is a normal human emotion, but it is just that: an EMOTION, and I would not allow it to affect the reference I give nor the way I treat him. I know that he sees other girls (for some reason he usually tells me when he has seen another girl) and it does not bother me. I have no claim to him, I mean geez, I have two boyfriends.
I don't know what to tell you about this girl's anger with you. Clearly she is attached, too, to some extent, and is feeling jealous. That said, she must understand that this is still a business, and you are still associates, and she is still accepting your money for a service much of the time. Hopefully you can both get over this little speed bump and continue enjoying one another.
you both will get over it. Love is an involuntary reflex to sex. Have sex with the same person long enough and guess what? Let time pass.
I guess you could say that I am "super attached" to a certain lady. I guess you could say that I love her, and I know that she has feelings for me. But I think we both know where the boundaries are. She has her life and I have mine, and we both understand that our relationship can really go no further. I am married and I do see other ladies and have used her as a reference, and she does not seem to mind.
So I love her, but I am not obsessed with her, and I am very happy with things the way they are.
relish the feelings and enjoy them while respecting the boundaries. That is exactly what I strive to do and I really enjoy it.
It's not me. I think I know who it is.....but fyi I do think of you.
xo L
I think of you as well.
And nope, you don't know her.
Totally over the one you are thinking of. ![]()
R
This was a very timely post for me. I had just gotten back from seeing a new lady that rocked my world emotionally and physically when I read this. Here I am a few days later and I haven't been able to stop thinking about her. I'm happily married and Love my wife to death. I am just a man that desires a little variety in life. I've been in the hobby only a few months but I had been in search of someone who could orally please me the way my wife of 15 years has learned to do it. Granted it is a tall order for someone you just met as my wife has gotten to fine tune her skills over the long time we've been together. Anyway the appointment started out great with us hitting it off like we were already in love or something. Then came the oral part and I about lost my mind. This was my first true GFE and my emotions are running high from it. I have scheduled with a different girl this week and I'm hoping this will get my mind back down to earth. I am fully aware of the consequences of letting this go any further but for now I will definitely be seeing her again in the future. I just hope I can keep my emotions in check and not get too carried away with how she makes me feel. Damn that perfect BBBJ.
Just my 2 cents and a little more...
If you keep that in mind you should be OK. Now I am not married but I would think if you love your wife that should help keep you grounded in reality. No reason you cannot have fun but I think you realize the differnce between what it takes to have a good marriage and having a few hours of fun with a wonderful beautiful woman who gives you a perfect BBBJ.
Hey if you have been married 15 years and still enjoy the way your wife gives you BBBJ's that is wonderful! I have been married twice and both of them acted like giving me oral pleasure was disgusting. Of course that may have just been with me lol!!
No reason you can't have a little extra fun if that is what you want as long as you keep your perspective and stay discrete. If you are married and lose perspective then the amount of pain and suffering you and your spouse will endure could be enormous. It sounds like you have already thought about this but thought I would add a little reality check for you![]()
So have fun and good luck!