Concerns of elitism come up every so often. Some people assume an escort is an elitist based on phrases used in her ad copy even if they have never actually met her (see an example below). When I read an escort's site, I don't assume she's an elitist based on her ad copy or words, because it's impossible to infer an attitude based on written text.
So I wonder what do you think? Do simple words like "educated", "traveled", etc. make you feel uneasy/insecure and automatically assume the escort is an elitist? Or do you recognize that escorts use various phrases to market themselves even if they're the most down-to-earth freakin people who simply like to highlight certain aspects of themselves?
When I view escort sites (up to really high 'price' end), I never think "she must be a snob elitist." Maybe I would if she said some off the walls sh*t like "I'm the best. Don't mess with those 'SHALLOW END' low level peeps..." lol...Also, I've personally used various terms in my former ads just to let men know about certain qualities I bring to the table (like traveling to various cities and countries...the men I've seen have enjoyed booking w/ ladies that share their travel experiences as well...for convo reasons), but never had a "snub your nose" attitude to anyone in my life.
Just to clarify....this post plays off of the "educated" "well-traveled" post below, yet it's different. That post is asking what you think about those two phrases...this one is asking about reactions to an escort's ad and assuming they have an elitist attitude based off YOUR perception.
assumptions are a joke. lol ---> http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=627229&boardID=12&page=1#627229
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Funny how in English one word can mean both bodily disease and behavior
The line is often so thin:
No one reads them anyhow, don't know how many times a guy says "oh I didn't read that", just be basic I have tits ass and give fantastic service end of.
I see it more as a matter of showing versus telling, maybe? Really intelligent, sophisticated etc people don't need to shout about those things, it should be shown through their copy, blogs, photos, website.
-er I mean, don't shout out on the mountain tops what you can prove through your actions.
I totally agree with your statement that pretty much sums as "Don't tell me. Show me."
P.S. Just how intelligent and intellectual do they want us to be again? Example. "mmm... I love sucking your cock and can't wait for your cum" or "Pretty soon, you are going to ejaculate semen into my mouth. Let me explain how semen is formed and why I won't get pregnant if I swallow it." Perhaps putting that second phrase on my website will make me look more educated? IDK.
As far as I'm concerned, I'll be anything you want, including a ditzy dumb shit lol. There are men that love this too...
Question: Don'tcha' think quick and clever sarcastic replies show intelligence? Not many can do that. In that case, we've got a few on here who are showing it... you know who you are. :
Some person mentioning they have tons of money to whomever will listen. Really wealthy people don't advertise the fact. They don't have to, it is apparent.
Yeah but wealthy people aren't selling their time and company, so when one is selling something, it helps to let people know what comes with the package. 
I think you are coming from a different angle as in, you are appealing to the men that specifically want a lot more than the physical. Hence your addition of your accomplishments etc as well as your desire for longer dates.
I am appealing to even a different demographic than most on this board. As in more into a more romantic type feel than a position and act driven session. I don't do dinner dates or overnights. However, when I meet a guy and we converse I can show that other side of me and I think that counts for a huge percentage of my return visitors because as I have stated ad nauseam, it is not because I am anything terrific in bed.
Even though I am selling much the same you are (P4P), we have both chosen to have a very different approach, with a different demographic in mind
You're absolutely right! I didn't know that you didn't do dinner dates or overnights, which explains a lot about our divergence in opinions. But the great thing is that we are both happy with the gents we see and by all accounts they are happy with us. 
You're right that one can show certain things via a blog or website, etc, but again, when selling one's time and company, I think it could be prudent to let prospective clients know as much about the package he's getting as possible, so he knows what to expect. The proof of the claims would be in the blog. Photos won't show an education (unless a degree is hanging on the wall in the background- lol!), and website copy can be outsourced.
Some providers like to portray themselves as social elites of some sort of caste system made up in their minds to show that they are not ordinary hookers. Most of the hookers who overemphasize about their education are dropouts, many of which have never needed a passport and own nothing but a little furniture and some clothes.
Others actually do have the credentials. My view is that a guy is not looking at her educational resume, he is looking at her images, her rates and her reviews FIRST. If those match his criteria, then he meets her and then she can wow him in person with all her womanly wiles and intelligence
Posted By: justanillusion
Others actually do have the credentials. My view is that a guy is not looking at her educational resume, he is looking at her images, her rates and her reviews FIRST. If those match his criteria, then he meets her and then she can wow him in person with all her womanly wiles and intelligence.
Sure- most guys here may fit that description.
But the kinds of gents I saw in my previous life as a high end lady want someone that they know right away will be able to blend into their world. Our first engagements were often overnights or weekends. Rarely did I even book dinner dates (which were my minimum). These guys don't have the time or inclination to test drive someone. As London explained below, these men demanded something different to match their needs. And they just plain aren't interested in reviews. They have other ways of ensuring a lady can meet their expectations. And their criteria for rates were merely that they were high enough to convey a certain sense of exclusivity.
So key words like educated and well-traveled are important, as is the lady's ability to carry them off
How do these men know for certain that these terms are a true representation of the lady if he has not met her? Unless of course she has been recommended in a close circle from gentlemen that have experienced her as being educated and well traveled.
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How exactly does a guy know for certain that said lady, who charges like a wounded bull, is in fact educated and well traveled? Does he have to have recommendations from others in his inner circle or does he look at her rates and assume because they are in the stratosphere, she must be
Well, initially he probably doesn't. Most of my gents came via recommendations from other friends (both ladies and other gents), and we would correspond via email to get to know each other. The ones who find ladies online will actually put a good deal of time into reading her blog, website, and posts, and correspond with her extensively enough to gauge their compatibility. But if he's bookmarked several possible candidates, the ones who mention things like an education and travel experience may top the list as far as who gets contacted first. One of my peers had several degrees, and one was in engineering. She mentioned this on her website. A client we shared in common told me that he pursued time with her specifically because he also had a degree in engineering. Turns out they were in the same program at the same uni (albeit at different times). They spent a lot if time together, and the fact they had so much in common made that time extremely enjoyable for both.
The rates set certain ladies apart from the others- even though they all mention travel and education. Some men won't even look at a lady who is available by the hour because (rightly or wrongly) he presumes she is more likely to be high volume than someone who has, say, a 24 hour minimum. (I think these really extensive minimums were more common back then.) And as correspondence before and between engagements is the done thing, most ladies at hourly availability don't have the time or inclination to bother with it.
The way a lady presents herself on her website, etc also sends signals. If she claims to be educated, elegant, well-traveled, etc, but has porn-star or bad quality pictures, the contradiction may clue him in. If that doesn't, their correspondence certainly will. And believe me- they pay attention to a lot.
Last paragraph is why I can't pull off "elegant" or "sophisticated" lol. Oh, and my posts telling people to fk off don't help either bwahahhahaa. I could easily pull off any image I wanted to, but I would never be able to post a word on TER or any review board for that matter, to do that. Eh well. My nicknames for a long time, were Bubbles and Ghetto Barbie.
According to some, no one over 110 lbs and over 25 would ever be elite (Hi Panthera lol). According to others, no woman UNDER 35 would ever be considered a courtesan. Would I ever work the street corner? Hell no, but there is a huge market for women who do.
When you see such phrases (and I use a few) it's simply the provider's way of trying to attract the type of clients she wants, hence, more money. A guy who works at the Home Depot does not give two shits about how educated or traveled a provider is...he wants a quick fk and that's it. Same goes for many guys on these boards who would 'NEVER' pay a hooker to eat or sleep...HI CPA!
There are certain things that make an escort better than another according to different guys. While some might not mind a car date or the Motel 6, others demand the Waldorf. So, the escort in essence knows this, and markets accordingly. The more you charge, the more you have to appeal to guys willing to spend a lot of money. You do that by offering those men more than just sex, because they demand it.
...but I'm 32, 5' 4", curvy 135 lbs, a giggly jokester, but able to hold a good conversation, and apparently a good fuck. Oh, and I can rock a cocktail dress, walk in stilettos, and morph into, or fake, (almost) any profession that doesn't require a college degree... hmmm...
What does that make me???
I think I'll just stick with GFE for now until I get this light S&M stuff down.
"I can hold a conversation on a variety of topics." Most human beings over the age of 6, can bwahahaha.
What does your description above make you? YOURSELF, and that's all that you need to really succeed in this business. Anyone telling you that suck ass posts get you more business, is an idiot...they are usually laughed at by the guys who think those women are desperate and full of shit anyway.
I have never, and I mean never landed a call because I told a guy what he wanted to hear on these boards. I simply don't see the need to claim his cum tastes like a banana split, I love hairy balls, and I can't get enough of rimming a dude with roids.
I saw a young woman the other day. I was drawn in by her profile & pics, but the experience was a LOT less than advertised. Granted she's young..22 and is still getting her bearings in the industry. I get that. Didn't & may not review her, but probably an 8/6....max. I did break my mold, as I don't see too many younger than 27y/o... but my touring appointment cancelled her trip.
I think you should stick w/ "True Pros". There is a difference with a woman that's been in the game for a while. Accommodating, pleasurable, give/ receive....likes her work. Chemistry is the most important thing for me..
Posted By: WondersOfTheWrld
Concerns of elitism come up every so often. Some people assume an escort is an elitist based on phrases used in her ad copy even if they have never actually met her (see an example below). When I read an escort's site, I don't assume she's an elitist based on her ad copy or words, because it's impossible to infer an attitude based on written text.
So I wonder what do you think? Do simple words like "educated", "traveled", etc. make you feel uneasy/insecure and automatically assume the escort is an elitist? Or do you recognize that escorts use various phrases to market themselves even if they're the most down-to-earth freakin people who simply like to highlight certain aspects of themselves?
When I view escort sites (up to really high 'price' end), I never think "she must be a snob elitist." Maybe I would if she said some off the walls sh*t like "I'm the best. Don't mess with those 'SHALLOW END' low level peeps..." lol...Also, I've personally used various terms in my former ads just to let men know about certain qualities I bring to the table (like traveling to various cities and countries...the men I've seen have enjoyed booking w/ ladies that share their travel experiences as well...for convo reasons), but never had a "snub your nose" attitude to anyone in my life.
Just to clarify....this post plays off of the "educated" "well-traveled" post below, yet it's different. That post is asking what you think about those two phrases...this one is asking about reactions to an escort's ad and assuming they have an elitist attitude based off YOUR perception.
assumptions are a joke. lol --->
http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=627229&boardID=12&page=1#627229 -- Modified on 8/28/2013 8:23:37 PM
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In the course of researching making my first date with a provider, I read a hilarious review of some kid in his 20s, and he thought that the provider was elitist because she sounded "businesslike" on the phone, was older (in her 30s) than he, and drove a lexus. In the review he went on to say he had seen her two or three times and he like her donation, but he had to add the dig about how she was elitist and arrogant. Fkin kid.
Anyway, I had a great first date with her and we always have a nice hour or longer conversation before the fun; she's one of my favorites.
I think it has to do a lot with the contradictions. Because soooooo many escorts make bs claims that are so damn obvious when you watch their posting habits, website text, etc. none of these labels really mean a thing. Elite Companion is the most over used phrase in our word, along with "I am selective." If you are going to portray an image, at least be smart enough to back it up. I love those who claim to be in grad school and working, yet post here all damn day begging for clients. When I was in grad school, I had a shit load of posts, but I also never saw more than 2 clients a damn week and did not work at all...plenty of time.
Or, those who claim to be so sought after yet low volume, who beg for a guy to see them in every ISO. Thought you did not need the business?
"I am ultra discreet," but you show your face to the entire world and work in the very town you live in and your kids go to school. Sorry, that is FAR from being discreet about what you do.
I think all people really ask, is that we be at least consistent with our claims. The proclamation should match the package in every aspect...I mean if the gal even cares lol. If she does not and just wants to be herself, none of that will matter.
I'm pretty certain I don't speak for every girl, but it occurred to me that she might use certain words and phrases, to hopefully weed out insecure assholes and to discourage trolls who live in the shallow end of the scum covered pond.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if she'd rather spend time with guys that find her 'elitist' phrases to be something they are actually interested in.
Educated means she hopes that she doesn't have to carry the conversation all night and well traveled means that in case she does, she has a bunch of stories to tell that will hopefully make spending the evening with a banal dolt mildly entertaining
So, would a phrase like "I don't cater to the bang for the buck types" be considered Elitist, because damn right I have that on my website lol.
I also have, "I am not interested in how much business I lose because of my requirements and time constraints, but focused on those who truly seek what a luxury companion has to offer...making you her only priority that WEEK."
I've been getting crap from cheap asshats since 2008, just because they can't or won't pay the rate for me and others who charge more than "the market will stand" lol. I showed them ha ha.
Again I don't want to put words in your mouth, but in using those phrases, you are hoping to discourage a would be 'bang for the bucker' and the asshat who would rather not live by your preferred requirements and time constraints. It's not too dissimilar from me quoting a contract for a potential pain in the ass client that is 40% higher than the services I provide for the client that has their sh!t together. I'm not elitist, I'm simply empowering the potential PITA client to look elsewhere. Just because I don't need his or her business doesn't make me an elitist. It make me successful.
Plus anyone who has had more than a 2 minute conversation with you can figure out that you are a pretty down to earth woman with very fer elitist bones in her body
Since we have seen many of the same "elitist" hookers (yea...I just don't write reviews LOL), I can tell you that many of them barely got through HS. Not that that was an issue for me...but a fucking joke on those idiotic websites portraying themselves as "worldly" and "educated". They, in many cases are neither. And it took little more than an email to know that nonsense.
And for the couple that indeed do a decent job on email communication...once they are face to face with someone who actually knows some shit...the discussions needed to morph quickly into something less academic.
Guess we see life differently? That's OK...it's all good.
My fave was the hooker who claimed to have graduated from XYZ Univerisity...but inmmediately upon my arrival had to announce..."I didn't really go there...I hope that doesn't disappoint you".
Hell no..she sucked my dick like a champ. I know plenty of hotties who have their MBA's that I can chat with...no fucking charge
Posted By: MT91151
I'm pretty certain I don't speak for every girl, but it occurred to me that she might use certain words and phrases, to hopefully weed out insecure assholes and to discourage trolls who live in the shallow end of the scum covered pond.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if she'd rather spend time with guys that find her 'elitist' phrases to be something they are actually interested in.
Educated means she hopes that she doesn't have to carry the conversation all night and well traveled means that in case she does, she has a bunch of stories to tell that will hopefully make spending the evening with a banal dolt mildly entertaining.
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woman all the time, but they never at the end of the conversation lead me back to my hotel room, unzip my pants and freed willy. So to find a professional that is educated is a nice change of pace.
Are there girls that inflate their resumes? Sure. They do it with Photoshop as well and copy writers too, but finding a smarty pants that doesn't mind if I'm not wearing pants is kinda fun, and I don't mind putting up with her on line elitism. Now if she's a total bitch when we meet, then we just call it a lesson learned and move on.
For some reason I have a different success rate than you enjoy in Chicago. Who cares the reason. I have a great time with great women. The funny thing is I bet you do too. Maybe they are all uneducated locals or maybe they are PhDs. Either way, if you weren't enjoying yourself you wouldn't keep coming back to the well. Unless you are a masochist....
Posted By: ChgoCPA
Since we have seen many of the same "elitist" hookers (yea...I just don't write reviews LOL), I can tell you that many of them barely got through HS. Not that that was an issue for me...but a fucking joke on those idiotic websites portraying themselves as "worldly" and "educated". They, in many cases are neither. And it took little more than an email to know that nonsense.
And for the couple that indeed do a decent job on email communication...once they are face to face with someone who actually knows some shit...the discussions needed to morph quickly into something less academic.
Guess we see life differently? That's OK...it's all good.
My fave was the hooker who claimed to have graduated from XYZ Univerisity...but inmmediately upon my arrival had to announce..."I didn't really go there...I hope that doesn't disappoint you".
Hell no..she sucked my dick like a champ. I know plenty of hotties who have their MBA's that I can chat with...no fucking charge
Posted By: MT91151
I'm pretty certain I don't speak for every girl, but it occurred to me that she might use certain words and phrases, to hopefully weed out insecure assholes and to discourage trolls who live in the shallow end of the scum covered pond.
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if she'd rather spend time with guys that find her 'elitist' phrases to be something they are actually interested in.
Educated means she hopes that she doesn't have to carry the conversation all night and well traveled means that in case she does, she has a bunch of stories to tell that will hopefully make spending the evening with a banal dolt mildly entertaining.
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I have no problem with escorts promoting themselves any way they like, I don't see it as "Elitism" to describe what they see as their strengths or positive side. Often escorts say they prefer to meet with gentleman who will treat them right. I'd say they're marketing themselves towards a particular style of punter. I'd rather that any day than the false and misleading comments some escorts make about themselves.
