Hello guys!

It makes my point why allowing providers to add comments/refute reviews is such a BAD idea.

Don’t let it get you down.  You know your worth and charge accordingly.  Hopefully this is the exception rather than the rule.

1st -  I can post my pics here for compare.

It sounds like they underpaid and gave you a "penalty" for something they didn't even pay for?

Her price is $600 no matter what you know, the guy showed up with $400 and shorted her 200 bucks.

He is just another looser and actually i started this board to post my RECENT pics because i want to stop those loosers are post a fake things about me.
i wants to show everybody that being a greedy looser it is not cool. and i also want to let guys know who is my market.

im totally calm. im adequate person who able to understand that if i buy an economy class it is ridiculous to count that American Airlines will provide first class for me because i read a good reviews about first class. It is SHAME TO BE LIKE THIS!

ill try honey, thank you for your advice!

the donation up front, then its on her.  You ALWAYS take the donation up front with a new customer. That's Basic Hooker 101.  If she did get it up front, and it was short, but she still went through with the session, then its also on her.  Most providers I know would say, "Aww, that's too bad.  Maybe we can try this again when you have enough money" and show him to the door.   Whining about it afterward and trying to blame it on the guy is just lame for a professional, IMO.  Unless this is her very first customer since she entered the biz, she should know how to protect herself.  

Feel free to check my pics taken just NOW, in the same outfits, especially for this board. another one from my last MN trip, with no any filters at all

It looks like he paid $400 for the non-GFE Tet a Tet, and then tanked her review because he didn’t receive her $600 GFE (highly reviewed) service.

All it proves is she was careless. But shorting $200 is on HIM. If you can't see that, well, SMH. Blame the victim much?

I disagree, some guys are actually wants CBJ because they are respect their wifes and afraid to get infected and they make it clear - i respect them and their position. Some guys are old guys and with all my respect to them - they are cant do a second pop because of health issues..So why should they are pay for full gfe 600 if they are no need that at all? i think it is not fair. Everyone has an own reasons. That is why my prices policy was affordable for everyone, i treat with respect absolutely everyone and provide actually WHAT YOU ASK ME TO PROVIDE! you can always grab the options you actually want...BUT when you try to trick me - it turns out to bullshit for both

that she has two different one-hour rates on her website, a website which is NOW conveniently not available via the TER link on her profile.  Two different rates for one hour might be confusing to a lot of guys.  That still doesn't address the fact that she either 1) didn't get the donation up front from a new customer, as 99% of professionals do, or 2) She accepted the lower amount and went through with the session.  If he misunderstood the terms of the rate he selected, as soon as that became apparent, she could have stopped and given him the option of a refund and to leave, or to pay the higher rate, or to accept the limited service that she CLAIMS is at the lower rate.  I know many girls that would do this.  They will give the guy a refund and ask him to leave if he is expecting more than what is on her menu.  Neither of us know if this guy was a discount-grinder or just made an honest mistake in selecting from a confusing menu.  I find it curious that her personal website is down now that she has made this complaint, so we can't even see the issue for ourselves. What is she hiding?

He didn't short her 200, he booked her 400 package...
I looked at her tryste ad....she has several different packages...
The lowest tier being a 400, and the next advertised as full gfe is 600 for the hour. There was obviously a miscommunication in what that 400 package entailed....and guilt probably lies with both parties on this. As Gaga Stated...her website is down, and the 400 package only says tet a tet. The 600 does say full gfe.  
Shes not even saying he shorted her, but that the guy was expecting her premium service for the lowest tier price.
I myself don't like it when the pricing is all over the place like that. It can become quite confusing as to whats offered, and what youre getting...especially in a situation where you can't use clearly defining terms.

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He didn't short....he chose her lowest tier package, and obviously expected more than that package offered. Its only described as " tet a tet " via her tryste ad...  
The 600 package is described as " full gfe "

My websites shut down two days ago by my hosting provider. ill also send you screenshot of that. i have nothing to hide

Did he short her? It's not clear.  She said she got a bad review because he expected the $600 package for $400.  I think she is not liking the review, not that she went beyond the $400 services.  ???

I dont like it when they have different rates for different levels of service.. and in a situation where you cant use clear terminology,  things get foggier!  
Its their buisiness, and their model, but i prefer if it were one service, all inclusive, this is the rate...per time. I get options....but most ladies clearly state what are optional at additional.  
In this case....i could only see her tryste ad, and other than full gfe....some of the other package descriptions were vague at best. Unfortunately,  this resulted in her receiving a bad review.  
Maybe rather than " tet a tet " she should describe it as limited gfe, or something of that nature.
I think this was a result of unclear terms, and poor communication on both parties.

Yes, you can post your pics, but while many guys seem to be very happy with you, this is not the first reviewer who has mentioned you are "bigger" than you appear in your pics. I can understand it happening once, but when multiple reviewers mention it, a lot of guys are going to take notice.

I agree that most likely there was some blame to go around, but her coming on here with her hair on fire dissing all other providers who provide great service at $400 hr doesn't help her cause any.

honestly...no. I wouldnt book with her. In part because she seems pissed at the world, and in part bcuz the way her pricing is structured....the ymmv factor looks like one hell of a roller coaster ride.

Also, bullshit - if I short anyone 200 bucks, and they come after me, I can't just say, "well. You should have counted the money." They'll have me taken in.

"I'll ruin your career if you don't do full GFE on me by writing you a bad review."

I understand your anger, and coming to the defense of one of your " sisters ", but he didn't short her. He asked for, and paid for the 400 package. And as far as i can gather from her OP and from the review...she gave him...her 400 package. Her rage is in that he gave her a poor review over the meeting,  as he expected more than that package entailed. His was in thinking it was an all inclusive package at that rate.

I wouldnt. No need to get upset with me. Im not bashing her. I just stated that the way its done, does leave a lot of room for confusion.

Just because we are offering "services" doesn't mean it's not sexually demoralizing when somebody demands something that was not booked, nor expected.

According to your profile, you work in Chicago and NYC.  Yes, 400 would be on the low end for everything you mentioned but I do know at least a couple very reputable Chicago ladies whose 1 hour rate is in that price-range for all of the above.  

It seems to me that he was thinking he could come in, pay $400 and con her into a $600 package.

Its quite obvious at this point that its always going to be totally the guys fault in your eyes, so enjoy that vitriol....

Court if you want to take issue with someone for "bashing" the apparently mentally unstable OP, take issue with me. I am saying it in no uncertain terms that this woman appears unhinged, and you are looking even more unhinged in your blind defense of her.

Make that 2 that i wouldn't see!

I believe that TER's policy has always been: if you met him, then the review stands.

Honey,

Honey, my rate on TER was 600 since January 2020. IT IS A LIE that he never saw that, we can ask TER team by the way ! he read my reviews, he clearly saw my prices and igroned my prices on purpose. it is not a misunderstanding - he tried to trick me.

Thats how to represent with style! Makes me wish I lived closer to Illinois! Cudos, on an elegant, thoughtful post.

Think with your rant you insulted a number a great providers.
Just looked at the top three providers our MInnesota board and two are at $400 and one at $450
As for “piece of shit” as you called them all are in TE top 100 nationally and two in the top 25

But yeah, Deb's ok in my book too.  

Guilty! 🤣

I merely asked clarification of whether she got robbed or not. There are all sorts of reasons for bad reviews including revenge.  I've been here a few years and the consensus I see with clients is that they are aware that a few bad reviews are inevitable in most things.  We factor that.  

I just clicked on her TER profile and then from there clicked on the link to her Twitter and then from there saw her Tryst advertisement.  Took me like 10 seconds.  That advertisement has an 1 hr Tet-a-Tet appointment for $400.  Sounds like the guy selected that appointment option vs. the $600/hr appointment option.  

Yeah, most people can look beyond that. It does calm the nerves a bit to know that, but just the fact that someone out there did that to us...

This is exactly why ladies should be able to briefly respond to their reviews.  How else can you obtain these sorts of insights into demeanor, personality, etc.?

Just my opinion based off the OP, her tryst ad, and the review...I would say she didn't get ripped off...
The guy got her lowest tier package. It really seems at most, he was guilty of being a dumbass, and not thoroughly checking for what the package included.
By the review....she provided no service beyond the package he chose. But he reviewed her poorly, because he thought it should have been a gfe package.  
Her site is down. Her tryst shows a 400, and a 600 package....
Most guys with good sense would realize that if 600 is " full gfe ", that 400 would be lacking in some areas...
He gave 4...he got 4...so there's no ripoff, or short. Just a bad review that she may have not deserved.

No he didn't.

ive been saying that throughout this thread....
Maybe they'll listen to you! Lol

I did just go look at her review stream. Had I just gone there in search of a provider, I would have discounted the two low scores on the first page of reviews, considering all the high scores. In fact with 9's for appearance the 3 score makes no sense at all -- and the text of that review it seems the guy struggles with English.

$400/hour is a going rate all over the US. Even in NYC there are some pretty kick-ass providers at $400/hour. That's actually pretty high-end if you look across the entire spectrum of Pro's, not just internet.

Too bad you took your website down so we can't see for ourselves what the guy who reviewed you saw.

All of the listed package types on her tryst ad are completely confusing to me. One has no idea what the lower rate timeframes include or don't include. And with her website link not working, one will never know assuming a better definition is provided there. Her tryst ad doesn't even link her website either to help clarify their meanings.

Indeed, you have every right to structure your pricing, and packages for what works for you, and your clients. If the guy tried to trick you, or coerce you to provide extras at no additional charge, you have every right to be angry. Out of common sense, I would never expect that Greek would be " on the table " in a " base " package. As far as MSOG....thats a grey area, that used to be included with most gfe providers in my area. Times are changing, so I would have the forethought to ask before the session began, and if i thought that something might not be included with the package I initially opted for, I would bring extra, should that situation arise. And if I didnt...i would consider that to just be " not available", and would just have to adjust for that, when planning a future session with that provider. You were obviously very angry when you posted initially,  and I think the biggest thing that ppl are noticing is that through your wording....you elevated yourself above other providers in the 400 range....  
Thats probably not going to win you much sympathy from other ladies. Your issue is with the client...not other women doing the same work.

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an outlier, since her overall TER review average is still 9.0 even with the last review factored in.  She has way more positive reviews than the few negative ones that are on her review history.  HOWEVER, this post seems like an overreaction to ONE bad review.  I don't think any provider can please every customer because the customer base is very diverse and there are as many ideas of what a perfect session is like as there are customers.  Most providers would have found this review annoying, but if it did not impact their overall TER average more than a tenth of a point or two, they would just shrug it off and move on.  Her reaction in this post, including denigrating providers that have lower rates make her a total pass for me, whereas, if she had toned it down a bit, guys like me might still be interested.

The amazing part is that she has managed to insult all the lovely ladies who offer GFE for 400 and come across as a complete loon to the guys who might have seen her at the higher price.

That's my GaGambler way of saying that maybe you have a point. lol

her $600 package is "described" as "full GFE?"  She just confirmed her website went down before she posted this rant.  I was going to look at her ad first before I commented and see if everything is clear or not.  If the guy didn't understand what he was getting, then as I said above, she should stop the session and explain what his options are moving forward.  We don't know what HIS story might be as far as misunderstanding the terminology used in her ad because the website is down just before she decided to post this.  How convenient.  How many guys here do you think know the PRECISE difference between a "tet a tet", and a "tryste".  I've been doing this 12 years and almost 1000 providers, and I couldn't tell the difference.  How do we know this isn't just a story concocted to "cover" a bad review?  Be more analytical and less of a suck-up.  There's a lot that doesn't add up here.  

I'm not in Illinois, though.  

Sweetheart,

I'll keep an eye out for you in my area...😉

tryst....its shown on her tryst ad. Go to her Twitter, click on the tryst link, and boom....its right there to see.
Her 400 package is described as " tet a tet"
600 as " full gfe"
And i didn't bother to go beyond those two...

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Even your defenders have conceded that there are plenty of GFE providers at $400 hr.

for the possibility that the customer may not have understood what he would be getting, or that she may have glossed over the differences.  I can easily see a dialogue like this . . . .

I dont know...to.me, it would seem more likely that he was just a dumbass, that either didn't look at the fine print, or didnt ask questions.  
Like i said....when i see all those different tiers of pricing, I would be confused...but also have enough common sense to ask the difference.
But in her post above my reply, she makes it sound like the guy just tried to get her to give her premium service, but knew he didn't sign up.for that plan...
Who the fuck knows!?!?!
I invested enough to look at her tryst rates, and gloss over the shitty review, but i didn't go through and stalk all his prior reviews, to get a sense of him.
I tend to take extra with me when I go....ya know, sometimes ya feel like a Greek, sometimes ya don't! Lol

There's obviously a large difference of opinion as to what transpired, from each person's POV.

I believe both of them.

Add showed as posted seven days ago

Indeed....i just looked at it and have no damn idea what extra roses would be for.... and in looking at the ad, I vot the impression that 600 is for a 90 minute appointment.  
Once again....I dont understand what " extra roses " entails.
The packages are not clearly defined...

eom

http://www.melanie911anderson.com

Maybe just me, but 300 for hh, 400 for hr, I would certainly expect BBBJ to be included with either of those sessions, and MSOG to be included if i opted for the hr session.  Greek, understandably has always been an up-charge.  I don't think that's being greedy, or mean.  I guess if one is jaded enough they can talk down on mongers that are cautious about giving up, for some a weeks worth of pay, and providers who actually still see value in taking someone's 400 and providing a good service.  You're right, your body, your rates, and it's the monger's choice whether or not to pass.  

Nope, i totally disagree.  

im sorry baby, i never meant to offend you.

Do u know the fact that usually guys SHOULD ASK AND NORMALLY COMMUNICATE BEFORE they are set something? NO ONE WILL ALLOW YOU TO COME WITH NO DISCUSSION. and btw -  guys also are ask reviewers about their reviews and experience with provider. it is not about curiosity, it is about your SAFETY. and again - MY WEBSITE CLEARLY SAID EVERYTHING, if escortbiz.com was do a moderations to cuties-tools.com for a two days IT DOES NOT MEANT THAT I HID it, feel free to contact [email protected] with my previous website name and ask for how long and exactly why my website was enabled.

A lot upcharge for greek, though.

i agree with that - Even your defenders have conceded that there are plenty of GFE providers at $400 hr.(and again you ignored the fact of reviews described more then only standard GFE)

...so  I like more laid back ladies.
A bit too much drama and complaining here for me.
Also, cafeteria style pricing is not my thing, it communicates a bit too much of a “this is a business” perspective to my liking.  I’d rather have the fantasy that the lady I’m with is thinking, “what other fun thing can I do with this guy to please him” than, “he’d better not ask me for a BBBJ - the cheap SOB.”  This young lady has removed the possibility of that fantasy and reduced this to the barebones transactional aspect.

Have you every paid $400 per hour for any service in your life and described that as “cheap.”
I think there must be a better term to describe this.
Guys who take you on a date to Arby’s instead of a nice restaurant are cheap.
There may be some dishonest a-holes out there who try to pull a fast one... but the best term for them is... dishonest a-holes, don’t you think?

Probably a bit unfair to ask me as looking at the reviews and what I can see of her ads (main Twitter page and P411) I would not have seen her even if this post was never made. (Actually I would not have bothered look at review as I personally don't have an attraction to her. Not a hit at her, just a personal preferences thing.)

That is BS. Unless you are talking about the one of the first few reviews, one extortion review is not going to really impact anyone. Personally I would be more concerned about the multiple 10/10 reviews from reviewers with only that one review.

LOL. I actually think this is exactly why we should allow it. Unless someone is reading the forums, and not just using the reviews, this meltdown goes quietly by without the monger ever knowing what he might be walking into.

Yes, it is exactly why i started this post. Only one reason. Only one question. I was in the tears all my morning long because i cant believe that guys are might be like this.

Translation. Maybe you have a point and I am RELUCTANTLY changing my mind on the issue. lol

which I assume is supposed to be "tete a tete" I have to wonder just who would ever pay for that. I can go to rent-a-friend and get someone to talk to face to face, in a "intimate" setting (nice secluded corner nook in a quiet cafe or the like) for A LOT less than $400. And I am pretty sure I can find someone that is just a cute.

Hopefully you'll take it in the spirit given...  

but I will go book a session with one of the local girls who treat me so well

Keep digging that hole. lol

In groups that allow the girls to comment on reviews it is a shit show. If she says "oh, you are so sweet" after a good review it makes it sound like a shill review.

do not measure everyone by your own scale.  

I suspect her pimp is using her login.

thank you honey..

It's actually a problem to categorize different service levels, since by the rules of LE avoidance, typically discussions of services beforehand are forbidden.

At the end of the day, this comes down to mis-aligned expectations and poor communication. Success in the hobby has a lot of parallels to success in life in that communication is key. I feel for the fact that you ultimately didn’t think you got what you deserved for the session just like the guy who reviewed obviously didn’t think he got his money’s worth. At the end of the day, it was one bad review in what otherwise seemed to be generally positive reviews. Most guys on TER will ignore the occasional bad review if there are multiple positive reviews. I appreciate that you don’t like a bad review,  but coming on the General board and ranting about the guy and then insulting numerous providers at the same time won’t do much to advance your cause. You did far more damage to your rep in the rant then the one negative review. As the saying goes, you can’t  unring a bell so hopefully there’s learnings on both sides of this.

That makes sense, actually.

Good post Steph, and kudos for keeping it positive. TER is a better place with all the positive posts, and little name calling other than OP.

I am late to this thread and I am NOT going to read all 90+ replies. But ...  
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OP's Profile says "Photos Accurate."  The bad review in question actually questions whether the person who showed up is the person in the photos. "... The woman I saw was NOT this woman." is pretty emphatic.
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What are the chances that the reviewer, despite having 40+ reviews and many whitelists, confused his meetings?  After meeting a few hostesses, he sets about to review them all, begins a review of the OP but in his mind he is thinking of a meeting with a different hostess altogether.  An honest but harmful mistake.
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Did OP reach out to the reviewer to see if he was remembering people and places correctly? "You're the guy with the really bad toupee and the "Mom" tattoo on your ass, right? ... No, we met at the downtown Marriott and both complained about the broken hot water handle in the bathroom. ... Right! You have confused my profile with a different encounter. I've never been to the suburban Sheraton. Don't worry, I promise not to be jealous (since you weren't a very good fuck, anyway). ... Please ask TER to take down your review and write a new one. ... Thank you."

Relax baby girl, I know you had a bad day but let’s keep each other safe!

Agreed.

I personally don't care what happened, who did what, or who is right or wrong in whatever proportion.

So, we can all agree it's not smart to call mongers clinical idiots ? And calling other working women who give full menu for 400, pieces of shit or hiv positive ? Even worse.

Not sure who post bad reviews about her but it sounds like a fake. I tried to contact both and never heard them back. Don’t get me wrong guys but I know Melanie for a year. Her pictures are real and the descriptions of her body and looks are accurate. She is 5' 7” in bare feet with amazing curvy structure - not fat but not bony. She has an excellent natural breast, her breasts are big but they are proportionate and she is well built. She has a silky unbelievably long hair. She is friendly, considerate and ready to please.
I want to notify you guys that she always ask you upfront about your desires and personality. Not sure that those guys were misunderstood her - website    made clear everything to you, each service was described, she is easy to communicate and explain everything you want to know upfront so you may be 100% sure what you can expect with her. Also her prices were established since February on TER(first time I met her). I see her on a regular basis. My last visit was two weeks ago.

I saw Chery during my business trip in Seattle a week ago by Melanie recommendation and so what? They are absolutely different ladies, Chery is petite and tall, well experienced with Islands. I know that Melanie usually offer to guys meet her friends or experience a DUO and I see nothing weird here.

OMG, if you're going to post a fake rebuttal at least get some help with your grammar so you don't sound exactly like the OP.

Whats your point? Where is a trouble?

yes baby, i should not call them like this. probably i was too emotional. i wish i could took my words back about ladies. everyone have a right to set a most comfortable price but i sincerely wish them to look to the mirrow and understand the fact that they are might cost much more..

Everyone have a certain circle of communications . The ladies i know would never offer same service for standard rate.  I dont hate those who offer everything included for 400 but it so hard to me to understand it plus i said that on emotions and already said that i regret about it.  

OMG His first language is Italian. any troubles?

Not a TER record by any means, but I’m pretty sure it’s a record since TER’s comeback in Dec 2019. Best train wreck in a long time for sure.

It is a very interesting coincidence, that's all. It just happens  to be the same guys reviewing same set of girls at very different places, with glowing reviews that are either the only reviews for those providers or contrast with other reviews for those providers. I let others reach the conclusion themselves. I just laid out the facts here.

Well these two responses, the White Knight and Melanie's, added response (being defensive), would lead a reasonable person to agree that the possibility of a bait-and-switch may have occurred; that a friend was sent in Melanie's stead because the "photo looked nothing like her".  So, Melanie received a negative review on behalf of one of her friends who went instead.

Interesting research QWERTY. Could be nothing, could be something. But seems to be a pattern; a run of really high scores and then a couple low ones with, "She is not the girl in the pictures". Correlation does not mean causation but does raise some interesting questions. Like the possibility that a bait and switch is occurring to 'help out her friends'.  

Right...

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Perfect Storm, I know, right? I am a changed man. I now agree with others its good to have providers on the board (or well, most of them at least). I've been seriously impressed by the professionalism and politeness of everybody. The responses, except the OP, in this thread have been great. A model of how TER should be. Hopefully will become the standard for future discussions on TER. Good stuff.

CDL,  

Lester, exactly. I'm not talking price or services in any communications.

If they were respectful of their wives they wouldn't be getting their dick sucked by a hooker.

wow what a thread! LOL

Looking at your website, $600 is a 90-minute session, and $400 is an hour session. I see no difference in services offered and just a difference in the length of the session.

On her website, that is now up, it shows $400 is an hour session and $600 is a 90 minute session. Based on that, I don't see how he shorted her. She makes no differentiation on services between an hour session and a 90 minute session.

According to her now posted webpage, the only difference between a $400 session and a $600 session is 30 minutes; one hour is 400 and 90 minutes is $600.

OMG he claims it is a fake review but you have already claimed to have seen the reviewer.

But all interesting reading!  I give the girl credit for bringing TER back to life.  Her thread has almost as many replies as all of 2019 posts put together.  

Not surprisingly, her defender has NEVER made a single post until this thread. AND he has admitted to reaching out to BOTH of the reviewers who gave her bad, actually horrible reviews. Is he her client, or her pimp? I know I wouldn't take it kindly to get a PM from some strange dude ragging me because I told the truth about bad behavior by a hooker.

honey, are you adequate at all? lol it seem like you have a troubles with understanding what actually people mean lol

It would be VERY easy for a guy to simply see "one hour $400"  

my P411 appointment cleary said : 400 for 1 Hour / 600 for 1.5 Hours
See screenshot of P411.... https://imgur.com/oR5QKxx
I was there about 45 mins...... I stand by my review.  
There was never a discussion about more money.
As far as performance and who does it for less money?... Please go see Holly Berry guys for $350/hr... she does greek, bbbjDT, actually she does it all.... and way better body and attitude.

When I read stuff like this I'm glad I live in Atlanta. Table dances in a strip club $10 a song. (Table dance = dance at your table "on the floor" ie not in a vip room.) VIP room from $25 to $70 (determined by size of room) for 30 minutes. The dancer gets $150 minimum. Extras cost extra but still very reasonable for a 30 minute "session".

So, I got a couple of emails about my bad review.  
I went completely thru p411, i don't check out their websites...  
There was never a response from her about "more money for bare back bj".... I even asked and she shook her head no. He english was kinda limited IMHO.
Also, her hair was wet...  and which i didn't mention until now.... you ever been with a sweaty clammy woman who took too hot of shower? That's what I had... clammy.
P411 appointment clearly said : 400 for 1 Hour / 600 for 1.5 Hours
I hope that image link works , it is a screenshot of my meeting request on P411

Reading that INVEST page is still making my head spin.

that were comforting her and blaming the customer feel pretty stupid now.  So we have a BSC hooker that is also a liar.  She got plenty of publicity by starting this thread, but its not going to be the kind that gets her much business.  She does look rather thick, IMO, so it would be a pass for me even without the public meltdown.

Or he happened to see this thread on his own but that's a bit of a coincidence.

Let it die out, please. I've been on TER since 2005. Right now you are making it worse. Take the high road and don't respond to whatever is said. It's the best thing you can do for yourself at this point. New day, yesterday's news.  

It's the easiest clap back a guy can take. Says a lot about him.  

Using the W word is like using the C word, along with all the racist and words for the disabled.  

Too bad you had to say that. Just thoughtless.

Do you prefer "sex worker" ?  As I told Debra, I just copy and pasted from a message I sent to a Guy, I should have cleaned up the language. I put whore in the same bucket as escort. I don't think it's degrading. I'm sorry you do and I should have cleaned up the email before I sent it.

Agree 100% BigBoyPants. Also agree with my mentor GaG who taught me as a hobbiest "move on" if it doesn't work out. As a provider, "Her body, her rules".
To me the most disturbing part of Melanie's write up was "probably he wait me to call his wife...why not, maybe she will explain it to him better. i will think about it...we will treat each other equal then, he killing my favorite hobby, ill ruin his favorite family)." If true she should quit the business. Hope it was heat of the moment.

Atlanta strip club scene is amazing, especially for those looking for value. Unlike other places a song is actually a song too. I can rave about Follies day shift all day. You don't even need extras, a young Cuban mamacita doing some lap dance stick shifting while you finger her with one hand and sip on some cognac or bourbon while also watching the stage. Good times.

LOL. They clearly didn't think this through.

After checking her pics and reviews I wouldn’t see this provider for $300. Sorry but a session paid in advance would have been ‘agreed to’ in my book before any action occurred. Also, once the session starts my review meter also kicks in focused on performance, attitude and connection regardless of fee paid.

attempt to save her from herself, but this train-wreck is already down in the ravine. Lol

Its becoming apparent to me that you Silicon Valley guys are all good at research, and finding patterns in reviews and scores.

flipped your position.  Way to be open-minded to newly-discovered facts. I was suspicious of this lady from the beginning as you can see form my first post on this thread.

I never concurred with her. I tried to be middle of the road, and said that fault probably lied with both parties, but i know i may have seemed sympathetic to her in that one post. But, I was just trying to give a level headed and calm response to her....which i can now see that level headed nor calm, reside within her vocabulary!  
I enjoyed the shit out of this....and i was surfing on the caboose, until right at the moment it went careening into that ravine! I posted too much in this thread as it is...but no one pays attention to shit I say anyway! Lol

around under her various names and then give her all of those 10's on your reviews.   You are effectively cancelling her reviews from honest guys with no agenda.  That's why, as GaG says, she is liable to get a lot more bad reviews.  Will you double down and write even more reviews under her other names?  Since she has effectively destroyed her Melanie name, which one will she switch to in order to allow your little scam to continue?  Are you her pimp?  If so, you have to be the dumbest fucking pimp on the planet.  You're out of your depth here.  Too many experienced and intelligent guys and ladies on this board.

At this point, I think her cover is blown....
Shell have to come up with new account names to shill moving forward

Oh, you live in a good part of the country!
Around here...you dont dare venture into a strip club during the daytime. You cant unsee that shit!

And i keep adding to this thread....
No, you're not overly sensitive. Use of that word is not appropriate. Unless its used to describe a cheating ex spouse!
Joking...please dont take that seriously.

you can lead a horse to water . . . . . and that's it.  Part of the scammers' arsenal in this biz is to mislead customers into thinking they are getting something they're not in order to do the upsell once they are BCD.  After you wrote this, some other interesting facts came out that point to a concerted effort on her part to mislead.  By now, we have seen her webpage and P411 ad, and they make NO MENTION of limited services at the $400 rate.  This is intentional misleading by omission because the threshold for most mongers I know in taking a risk on a provider with mixed reviews is the $500 price point.  At $400, many guys, including me, will have a "its only $400 so I will take a chance" attitude, who would not say the same thing at a $600 price point.  Her $600 price point in the ad refers only to a longer session, not different services.  Its disingenuous for her to come on here and bash a reviewer for relying on the wording in her ad.  

If you have gotten even ONE appointment from anyone that has read this thread, I would be more surprised than seeing wings on a pig.

I see. Not able/willing to address the obvious disconnect -- a typo is not using a completely different word and writing an entire paragraph about a fake review accusation in defense of your claims here. Instead of calling your friend out on the error and demonstrating some level of personal integrity you choose ad hominen attacks.  

CDL....you have to read through every line of pricing to figure it out. 400 is a 60 minute non gfe session. Add 100 for BBBJ...add another 100 for COF....add another 100 for MSOG....add another 100 for COB! 60 minutes non gfe is 400. 60 minutes full gfe...is...who the fuck knows? If you select more than two of those options for say a MSOG appointment...youre already over 600! Her 600 90 minute is also " non gfe"
Now...if im wrong about any of this...
Its because her fucking site and pricing are that damned confusing!

you have tried the Russian girls in LA, too.  $350 base rate can escalate quickly.  LOL

Only used XO for Russian women....and their structure is fairly well explained...lol

YESTERDAY that we were only hearing HER side of the story.  Thanks for coming on here and giving us a little insight into your own perspective.  

You just didn't like "This" provider and it's not just your right to tell the truth in a review about your bad experience, it's a public service IMHO. Too many guys are browbeaten into remaining silent about bad sessions because they are afraid of provider blow back like you just got. Thankfully the TER crowd is a tough crowd to fool and most of us saw through her bullshit even before you came on the board to state your case.  

And I'm sorry for using the W word, I didn't realize some of you consider it on the same plate as C word, and I would never use that word to a woman.

Interesting.  It also says to "ask about a promotion."  I hate it when I see that - who wants to ask and feel like a cheapo?

Ummm ....  isn't there a TER rule that Private messages are actually Private?  Frankly, I don't think that it is at all appropriate for you to post the content of his Private message on this board.  Two wrongs don't make a right.  

But "sex worker" and "hooker" (as a term of endearment to the ladies that "hook" us as customers) are okay, but "whore" crosses the line.  Just my opinion from my experience here.  There actually is no written rule other than a few derogatory examples in the TER rule list.  Its more about the context than the words, in most cases.   When it comes to the guys, everything from gentlemen to cocksuckers and everything in between is usually okay.  Lol

Wowzas and guys actually hand over there personal information via screening because they know that you will keep it private?

He sent the exact same message (copy & paste) to multiple people.   It wasn't private.

I didn't know that.  I will ask Admin to delete my post.  

Not relevant.  Yes it was private.  It was sent privately to a very small group of people.  Using that sort of logic, if a guy has sent his personal information to you and a few other providers than there is no harm is broadcasting that personal information to any and all providers?

Debra
I'm not trying to be a smart ass,  but I am just asking a question.  Do you think your participation in this thread has/will hurt or helped your business?
By the way, I think you are beautiful

No, I'd never share someone's personal information, not even when a lady told me she'd been assaulted by a P411 member I'd OKayed.  

Or anyone else for that fact.

I believe that any information shared via a Private Message is considered personal information.  Put another way, all the content in a PM is considered personal information.  That is my interpretation and what I was told when I asked before.  Basically, you cannot share anything in a PM unless you have permission.  They are supposed to be private.

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Oh I live in the bay area. The strip club scene here is awful lol.

I asked about this several years ago and that is more or less what I was told not in those exact words.  Sort of like the RO and PO board.  They are private.  The content and messages are intended for a particular audience.  

Many, many people have been banned for sharing PM information. I remember those days.

I mean no disrespect when I ask this...

“...including content copied from their emails or Private Messages, is grounds for BANISHMENT.“

",including content copied from their emails or Private Messages" is pretty fucking clear. That statement does not mean, personal information shared in those communications but that such communications constitute personal information and privacy regarding the statements is required.

I vote will help her business.

Seems to me that Melanie7 is an avoid at all costs provider. The vitriol in her OP and responses, the confusing/misleading ads, the alleged weight discrepancy, and TRQ’s top tier research and analysis, indicates to me “DANGER DANGER”. There are too many great ladies out there to take a chance on someone who screams BSC at every turn. That’s my $0.02.

Thank you. That was my first impression as well.

just when returning a deposit then, eh

to worry about unless the other party to the PM objects to something you said.  He PM'd me as well, and the HE later posted on board the content of the PM that HE SENT ME.  If he posted my response, then I could report it as a rules violation if I wanted to, but he only posted WHAT HE SENT ME.  Probably did the same for you.  IMO from thousands of board posts, it doesn't appear to be a rules violation to me, nor is the other party likely to report it as such. He PM'd me, too, and he seems like a nice enough guy.  Besides, who wants to be on the wrong side of the reigning MS. TER?  Lol

It's been at least 10 years since I was in Follies. It closed a few weeks ago. I don't know why. I will post if I get any more info.

I think hooker is disrespectful slang, as is whore. But it all depends on the context and tone imo

Yes, I'm more talking about GFE, my bad

lmao

C'mon CDL, you're slacking. Unless she's already deleted the post, her dance card is filled with eleven, count them eleven appointments!

Oh. for Christ sakes whore is just fine. I don't care if whores call me a whoremonger. This business is not for the politically correct. Get over it.

Note to tone police, but couldn't you have posted about being shorted/your bad review without mentioning other providers?

Hooker came from the ladies who followed General Hookers command as his army moved around during the Civil War.  
Am I wrong?????

Good Lord, soon this post will contain the two most over used questions on TER.  

I mean, just the length of the thing. Seems like it takes up half the page.
I wonder if anyone actually read the whole thing?

To be the 200th post.  LOL

Some guy paid 400 and got or wanted the 600 package, he didn't know, she bitched and a bad review came from some one...That's what I got, and that is that.

What part of PRIVATE MESSAGES are you not grasping?

just now noticed.  He has been a dope for about 15 years here.  Lol

That providers always think the rate is the highest posted and the monger
always thinks its the lowest rate posted.

throughout the thread that show her advertising platforms, you will see that he DIDN'T want the $600 package, because its 90 minutes, and he only wanted an hour.  He took the hour appointment, and there was no mention in the ad stating the menu was broader in the 90 minute package.  The ad was misleading, she tried to upsell him for basic GFE, he didn't get it, and so he reviewed her accordingly, which was totally appropriate under the facts.

Except it doesn't count, bcuz almost 30 posts to it were arguing about pm privacy....
It kind of lost its " fun factor " at that point...

I didn't want to read anything more. As for the link provided, I wasn't looking for one, because as of late no one attaches a link to anything so why start now , whatcha gonna do?

but perhaps the term is older.

Wow, you really got upset over that lol.

Actually, she has two $600 options. One seems to be the same services as the $400 but you get that for 90 minutes. The other $600 options is the GFE for an hour -- forget it that was to include both BBBJ and MSOG or just BBBJ.

I'm not sure why you think I'm upset with you.

I've actually been surprised (especially at the higher rates) at how many men preferred this.

Yes, these threads are debates, you're supposed to stick to one side, aren’t you?

I guess....I just think in this instance, you sided with wrong, as does the majority that have posted within this thread. But you do you...

Actually I think most posting here have been attempting to figure out what the actual truth of the situation might be -- acting a bit as the jury and not the debate club.

Now that I’m getting more of the story some of my posts are not right.  

Between the mindfucking she got from the priests and nuns in her youth and the hydrocodone she is on, do you REALLY think you can talk any sense into her? lol

And EVERYONE, including TERSupport, can see the ambiguity in her advertising, it comes down to "he said, she said" and I don't think TER is going to just take her word that she informed him at the incall.  It took her several days to disclose this "new information",  so for me, its classic CYA after the fact.  I don't believe it for a minute or she would have said this the first day when she saw the posts were running 4 to 1 against her.  She's embellishing now to try to get sympathy to counter her crooked advertising.

and a lot of good points were made.

Thank you for posting this.  I book exclusively through P411 and would expect that any provider would honor the rates that they publish on that site and would provide the standard GFE services when responding to a date request made on that site - unless they very specifically state in that ad that they are not GFE.  This was fundamentally dishonest.  This is not a case of miscommunication, but of fraudulent advertising.

complains to P411 about the misleading ads, would P411 would MAKE her clean up her act?