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I’ve never used an envelope
RegencyHobbyist 109 Reviews 72 reads
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and no one has ever complained about it.

Ladies -

I've been reading reviews for years and kinda thought leaving the "envelope" was just a generic term.
I recently saw a lady actually request/ require a physical envelope to leave the donation in.  I was surprised.  

Do you have a preference? Stack of cash or an actual envelope.
 Also, small bills vs. big bills?  I once got 100's out of the ATM and a lady requested small bills the next time I see her.  

Either is fine.  I just want to know.  These are the questions  we can't really ask in person or via email / text before a date.

Thx!
Barry

it's surprising this is new to you. Almost all girls require an envelope and say so on their web sites. I think envelopes are stupid but don't really care enough to argue with anyone about it. So I just stuff the money inside and forget about it. I've generally used 20s because until recent years that's all you could get from an ATM.

And have never heard any feedback about not using an envelope. Usual play is to have the money visible and leave it with my keys and phone, then just leave it behind when I exit. Would I use envelopes if asked? Probably, but who the hell buys envelopes anymore? Maybe the same people who write checks to pay for groceries?

But when has that ever stop guys from chiming in...I always do the envelope, doesn't matter what she specifies...Not my style to just flick money at her.

...the few times i didn't have one, it was never a problem. that said, i feel like it's appreciated. shows good faith and effort (you took the time to read the rules).

Jk...of course.  
Ive used an envelope a few times. Mainly if its in the etiquette portion of their website. But once I've had that " break the ice " encounter, I just drop the money on the dresser, nightstand, whatever...as long as I know she sees me doing so, but I also never make it a solely obvious act...IOW, I'll set my phone on the dresser...and just happen to drop the donation at the same time.
Fuck...that sounds like a lot of steps...but it really isnt.

Posted By: Barry2112

Ladies -  
   
 I've been reading reviews for years and kinda thought leaving the "envelope" was just a generic term.  
 I recently saw a lady actually request/ require a physical envelope to leave the donation in.  I was surprised.    
   
 Do you have a preference? Stack of cash or an actual envelope.  
  Also, small bills vs. big bills?  I once got 100's out of the ATM and a lady requested small bills the next time I see her.  
   
 Either is fine.  I just want to know.  These are the questions  we can't really ask in person or via email / text before a date.  
   
 Thx!  
 Barry

Steve_Trevor85 reads

a provider say, just drop the cash without an envelope. But I’ve seen many providers ask to have the payment put into an envelope.  So that’s my default.  Never had any provider tell me to stop doing it.  

FWIW, I never seal the envelope, and I put it down where she can see it before I go wash my hands etc, in case she wants to count it. That’s unless she’s asked for it to be put down in the bathroom—that’s happened a few times.  

WICardinalfan74 reads

Call me a sheep, but if person requests something in a certain way, out of courtesy I do it. Indeed there are limits on that.  So I use the envelope.  

However, on those spontaneous moments and envelope is not available, I have never received a complaint.

I always use an envelope with a new provider. It’s a small thing, but if it gives the provider an extra bit of comfort that I’m a legit client, why not do it. Interesting that when I see kgirls with trusted bookers I never use envelopes. I think I assume the trust is already there on both sides.

I definitely prefer in an envelope or greeting card. Some guys get very creative and write lovely messages or pick cute cards. I save my favorites.

Using an envelope is a pretty standard request, so I generally use one with escorts. A couple months ago I saw a girl who asked me to take the money out of the envelope and hand it to her, because she had been shorted at some point and wanted to count the money immediately.

No one is ever going to kick you out for dropping your cash on the counter without an envelop.  When I first started I put it in an envelope.  Now i don't bother.  Just pull it out of my wallet and drop it where she can see it.    
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Speaking of seeing it, when I was new to this and still using an envelope, I was so subtle about putting the envelope on the counter that she didn't see me do it.  So she "reminded" me I needed to pay up.  I gestured to the envelope sitting a few feet from her.  Oh.
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After that I just do it where they can see it.  They want the money, why dance around giving it to them.

The envelope crap started because some hookers (or their pimps) were so fucking stupid they thought the cops could not bust them if they did not touch the envelope. A few guys like it because they think it is more romantic than cold hard cash.

Hell no, they won't kick you out for handing them c notes.

Envelopes are for the capos, and they better not be light.

Personally, I always put a donation with a card.  Usually a "Thank You" or appropriate holiday card.  If it is one of my LTR's, a birthday card when applicable.  Just seems right to me.  Halloween is around the corner.  Give your favorite provider a funny Halloween card with the donation instead of throwing the cash on the dresser or hall table.

...unless the provider doesn't want one and has communicated that to me before the session.

And I make sure to use a plain, white envelope -- I made the mistake one time about using the logo envelope from the bank and received a 5 minute lecture from the provider about why I should divest all my holdings from this evil bank, due to the institution's investments.

So plain white envelopes and never booked with her again; I appreciate her political stance but hearing about it at the end of our session kinda killed the good vibes we'd worked on building.

She has a lot to learn.

 
I once needed an envelope in another city, and expected that the hotel would have plenty of envelopes in the desk draw in the room along with hotel stationary.   Wrong!

What's a monger to do?

So, it turned out that I was actually in that town to attend a bat mitzvah of a niece, so while at the synagogue, I borrowed a donation envelope that they had in the lobby, and used that instead later that day.   Bet they never saw that coming.

 
No word as to whether the provider converted or not.

 
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There's a handbasket transit service that'll take you to a certain place for doing that.  ;-)

But props to you for coming up for an ingenious idea like that.  I myself use envelopes from credit card application mails.

As long as you bring the correct amount, I don't care.

If you use an envelope, don't seal it though.

I've always had the LE-bust scenario in my head where i didn't want to be questioned visiting a lady in a hotel with a wad of cash in my hands. So I always have the cash in an unsealed envelope with a gift card. Maybe it's the tiniest of leverage to make up an alternative story than the one cops have in mind.

I think envelopes are nice because it seems more discrete. I don’t like the donation part even though it is essential. I’m even oddly discreet when I tip for services.  
My regulars used to quietly set the donation on the dresser neither of us acknowledging it. Obviously with new people I would slip off and quickly count it. Maybe I’m weird. At the end of the day I say do what makes you comfortable just don’t walk in and hand it to me.  

Also maybe the ladies who give you instruction on how to handle donations are trying to help clients who may be nervous or unsure how to handle the situation when the time comes 🤔

I like to use an envelope as a minimum with a drawing of a heart & "thank you" on it.  If I can find a card near where I visit the pre-session ATM, I will include a card.  It just makes the session seem more like a date than a business transaction.

i usually put it in a glass in the bathroom.   safe and obvious.    

one time was with a regular and while she was in the bathroom freshening up  i paid for overnight with 20s in a long row on the floor from the bathroom to the bed   ..  she thought that was funny and original.    and knew i was just being playful   ... somebody new might have not seen it as funny i could imagine.

One of my very oldest and best clients always brings me my donation in an envelope with a very generic thank you or warm greeting card...... When I was very new at this I had read somewhere to always do so because just in case the law gets in the mix it leaves room for plausible deniability. -Pro Tip

After literally hundreds of discussions on the subject do you honestly believe that showing up with an envelope with the EXACT amount of money that you require as your "donation" in an envelope is going to somehow fool LE??? If anything it's going to prove the opposite. Having a few hundred bucks in a guys pocket could give some "plausible deniability" having the exact amount of your donation in an envelope removes all doubt.

 
You can't be faulted for believing this nonsense when you were "very new" but you don't have that excuse today, and PLEASE don't call this a "pro tip" it's the most amateurish tip you could possibly give.  

 
For the record, I have never and I will never start using envelopes to somehow camouflage the transactional nature of this business. It's silly not to mention counterproductive.

TheVoiceOfReason78 reads

I hope that you also don't ask for dick picks as a method of screening or grab a guys crotch when he comes in to ensure that he is not LE.  

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