It wasn't very masculating.
Even though it took longer. I preferred the bus.
Know what I mean?
Some are lonely. Some have an infatuation with sex.
Then there are guys who do it simply because it's illegal.
I myself don't do this when I date, and if it were legal..
I wouldn't do it at all. For me.. That's half of the thrill.
Why does your husband like to do it?
If it is to please you... That's just weird.
You should ask yourself that question.
Once you have the answer. I have a feeling you will change how you set these dates up for him.
Hi guys! Hope everyone had a good Thanksgiving. I had a fun one with lots of family. My niece had a little too much to drink and was grabbed on the way down to a face plant in her plate. lol I just love the holidays!
I need your opinion. My guy is complaining that his time with providers seems empty. He enjoys their company but does not get that connection. Do you think repeating with his favorite could help that situation
But I will say this... If you are approaching mongering with the expectation of finding connection(s) you are in for a rude awakening.
Its like sitting down to watch the beautiful game of baseball (Tender deadline today...bitches...
) with the expectation of watching home run on every single pitch... The game is not designed that way, and neither is this.. And quite honestly, if that were to happen, baseball would be no fun.....
The underlying basis of this game is a transactional relationship, and its very difficult to find true connection (whatever that means BTW...) here. And applying the same logic here, if mongers were to find true connections in the hobby with every hooker they saw, the hobby would be no fun. It would be a headache..If you find some connection, good for you, and if it lasts...even better !! But don't expect it..
Now back watching Brees getting his ass screwed by Seattle..
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Ya can't look for it or expect it. After all for the most part we are paying highly skilled actresses to pretend they like us. Is it possible? Yes it is. I've experianced it a couple times where it was obvious that both of us enjoyed eachother and the clock element disappears all together. Great times only problem is after experiancing that the typical appointment with a new lady can be kind of a let down. So it's a double edged sword.
I never really go into meeting a new lady looking to make a real friendship but it can happen. Both times I have there was extended email communication before hand. Once due to distance and once due to a couple conflicts in our schedules. Think it can put both parties at ease and have a sense of familiarity beforehand. Both ladies I felt I knew before even meeting them. Really helped kind of like pay for play match.com.
Curly is pretty smart even if he's a Nats fan ya can't expect it but once you've experianced it when it's not there it can be a let down. I started just hoping the ladies would at least pretend to like me and then when I hit home runs with a couple it kind of spoiled me. Some may say its good buisness savvy for a lady to fake it but in both cases I really think otherwise, I'll keep the reasons to myself if someone puts some trust in you, especially in this jungle, you don't betray it.
Good luck hope he finds what ever it is he's looking for.
on my son's 16th birthday! What a great time!
I do think it's possible to find an authentic connection in a hobbyist-provider scenario. It doesn't necessarily mean that she wants you (the client) to put a ring on it and give her babies, but that you're one of the few people she dates that she actually enjoys spending time with. Of course the finances are important but if she can relax with you and doesn't seem to kick you out as soon as the appointment ends, then that's a step.
I have a few clients I genuinely like spending time with. Heck, there's some I would see outside of this world but I don't see myself telling them that anytime soon, haha.
then I wouldn't define that as "finding connection"But as I have come to realize that, in this small world of ours, people love to use lofty terminology for something benign.
To me.. connection is not romantic relationship just yet, but it can develop into a romantic relationship.. That's connection to me.. So not exactly.. "I'm falling for the hooker scenario", but rather "I'm sliding for her scenario" ![]()
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It would mean liking a person enough to want to spend more time with them outside of the pay for play. Not that there is an expectation of that... that would be unrealistic. But the feeling for it would be there.
I have, several times. asked girl if she would like to join me for dinner.. And I've done that tons of time... I just did that last month with a provider who drove in rain for an hour to see me, on a short notice... And there was no connection whatsoever.. Just two people having good time...
I think your friend.. whoever it is, is trying this too hard.. Just tell him to hang loose..
Hubby said it leaves him feeling cold. I hope I am interpreting his meaning of connection correctly.
I cam calling total bullshit on your post..
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Maybe meaningless, loveless sex is just not your hubby's cup of tea? Not everyone enjoys casual, loveless sex. I do, but I hardly speak for all men.
Have you ever considered that fucking hookers is just not what your hubby really enjoys or wants?
I may be a woman, but I'm told I think like a man when it comes to sex. He seems to like his birthday presents but it's no skin off my back if he doesn't want them. I'll just get him a massage instead then give him the happy ending myself.
Seriously though, I'll ask him.
When you make such sweeping statements, you know you are digging yourself a deeper hole by the minute..
There are plenty of men out there who have a rotation of 2-3 girls at a time. We are not talking about civvie men who take their marriage vows seriously at all. We are talking about mongers..
On my local board, and other boards, we get plenty of requests asking how to go about finding new gals and getting verified, because their stable providers have retired or moved out of state. Some of these guys haven't had over 2-3 different pussies in a while, and may not be current with various forms of verification
This hobby might just not be for him, just saying
a provider, but most times you will not. You just have to keep doing what you do and when you connect with a provider then great. Place them on your list of returns visits and keep meeting providers until you have a nice long list of return providers.
It's not impossible to have an actual connection, especially when someone is nice and interesting. Just tell him to be up front with what he is looking for so that the provider is well aware.
who is picking these girls? Is it you, him or both of you.
maybe if you have a hand in the selection you should back off. I mean, you aren't going to the appt right?
Maybe you should let him alone pick out his fantasy girl. I think only then can he truly completely let go. and stop dropping him off like you're dropping a kid off at camp or with the sitter.
I don't think you realize but there's a lot of anticipation and pre fantasy that goes into an appt on the guys side. let him drive there really indulge in the pre game show if you will.
If you are not making it a threesome you are too much involved and he cant totally have that fantasy. I think you could be stifling the hype if you will.
I don't know how you guys work it all out but it could be part in play here.
just my 2cents.
That's a really good point you make. I do tend to take over a bit... pick the music playlist, wine, etc. I mean well by trying to make it as nice as possible. But what you say makes a lot of sense. Maybe I need to back off.
I think its cool that you're ok with his P4P, but you need to back off. Let him find the girls, let him contact them, let him flirt with them as the day approaches. Let him figure out what kind of wine or flowers or music she likes and pick based on that. Let him drive himself there by himself, fantasizing about what he's about to experience. Let him drive himself home, replaying the experience in his head. All these things are half the fun!!
intelligence of picking his own music, wine, food or hookers...
Quite honestly, I don't even think this shit is true..
My efforts to make the date as nice as possible does not make him any less of a man nor unintelligent. Sent you a PM. Let's see if unlike the other doubting Thomas, you respond to it.
Not reproduction... just production... Taking a break between calls... I respond to all the emails..
Unless they are from Udo.. I have even responded to Lungman...
I will respond you later...
I think you could be sucking the life out of the aftermath. The drive home from an appt is after thought and reminiscing but if his *wife* is picking him up he's not even allowed that.
I get that you are all for his p4p arrangement but you are still too involved. He loves you doesn't want to hurt you so his before and after game face well he's not in the game for the whole ride.
like I said I don't know what your relationship is like...my bf knows what i do has no issues with it either but i'm not coming home bragging about what great sex I just had. its disrespectful to my bf. so there's a few things to think about.
The mere fact that he does not have a connection is pretty much what most providers want. That so called connection should end when he leaves! I don't want some married man thinking about fkin me when he is with his wife...I find that idea a bit absurd. You're a bigger woman than I, because I don't believe in these types of situations at all. The fact that you not only approve of him having sex with another woman (which is what many wives and gfs think is fine) but that you are actually pushing for a connection, is on a whole new playing field for me lol.
Any connection in p4p would be an illusion. If there were a real one, THAT I would not be agreeable to. There is a difference between sex and intimacy. That is my boundary. I could just as easily buy him a good massage for his birthday and feel the same way about it. But a real connection? Nope. Just the illusion of one. I trust the providers chosen to be professional and keep this a business transaction. That's why this is a safe place for me to give these presents to him.
And sometimes it does, and sometimes it doesn't.
You go back and see the ones you connect with, generally speaking.
If he is never getting a connection, it may be something to do with how he is wired.
I myself have wonderful connections with many gals.
It wasn't very masculating.
Even though it took longer. I preferred the bus.
Know what I mean?
I think it's important to realize why guys do this...
Some are lonely. Some have an infatuation with sex.
Then there are guys who do it simply because it's illegal.
I myself don't do this when I date, and if it were legal..
I wouldn't do it at all. For me.. That's half of the thrill.
Why does your husband like to do it?
If it is to please you... That's just weird.
You should ask yourself that question.
Once you have the answer. I have a feeling you will change how you set these dates up for him.
I'm a very "enthusiastic" person... sometimes I over step. Hubby lets me do my thing but I know when he says enough to back off. He is the man of the house after all. But I appreciate the way he lets me be me... even likes me for it. ![]()
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