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Hunter-and-Food-Gatherer 241 reads
posted
1 / 27

Your idiotic statement:

So you had sex with a woman who you believe is truly not able to give consent.

Given what you have stated, this woman has been the victim of a sexual assault perpetrated by YOU.

And here you are worrying about being respectful of her privacy?

DirtyDaego 11 Reviews 163 reads
posted
2 / 27

This has been totally played out by now.

Now we know you can't write a review because nothing happened.
So her situation is definitely sad...and there's not much you can do about it unless you post on your local board. She shouldn't be doing this, but what can she do if she's that bad off? So now no one knows anything and she'll keep working. Guys will have bad experiences and she'll probably be taken advantage of, robbed, or worse if things are as bad as you say.

You'll have to decide, alone, what you want to do.

Foodyguy 29 Reviews 110 reads
posted
3 / 27

If you were there gave her any money at all, then a review can be posted.

You did not say whether any money had been exchanged in my reading of the posts.

OSP 26 Reviews 130 reads
posted
4 / 27

she should have taken the responsibility to call off the meeting. Plain and simply. Quit molly-coddling paid service members. No need to blast her though, but yes review her as a meeting DID TAKE PLACE!

DirtyDaego 11 Reviews 126 reads
posted
6 / 27

(and be fore-warned...I will curse in this post so some with delicate sensibilities will have to move on or deal with it...or complain the the mods...yet again)

What I meant by "whatever" is that the discussion of this has resulted in lots of opinions, lots of words spewed out there, a ton of stupid shit said, and so many cold ass "opinions" that it boggles the mind....even to the point that the OP felt the need to post AGAIN.

Believe me...I have NO problem with what consenting adults do behind closed doors. Kiss, grope, slap, screw, piss, get pissed on, eat crap, get tied up, shove a baseball bat up your ass for all I care. Whatever floats your boat, makes you happy, and hurts no one else. But if the OP is to be believed, this is different. This is someone who should not be in this business, partaking in these activities, and put at risk.
Eventually she WILL meet someone who is not like the OP. Someone who will not walk out. Someone who will rape her, beat her, steal from her, and maybe take her out if that's how he gets his kicks. Then we'll all read the news report when someone posts it...and have yet another thread about the dangers of meeting strangers and the need to be safe. Fucking YAWN.
Some of the cold-blooded responses to this issue has me wondering if some of the posters would love to have a shot at a situation like that.

I say "whatever" when I get sick and tired of talk talk talk talk (about anything)...and no one having the balls to do a damn thing about something. Opinions are worthless. Talking shit behind a keyboard is worthless. My point was that the OP needs to decide if he'll either do something about the situation and try to help...or walk away and turn a blind eye.
Whether or not to post a review is the least...and most worthless...of questions.
In my opinion. (which is...by my definition...worthless)

So now people can go back to trying to find out who this is...so they can either help or hurt her....and having baseball bats shoved up their ass while they get pissed on.

Whatever.

AlexNClockworkOrange 132 reads
posted
7 / 27
Hunter-and-Food-Gatherer 107 reads
posted
9 / 27

have sex, not to inherit your baggage.

piecrust 1114 reads
posted
10 / 27

My whole point of posting this was to raise the question, should a client post a review of an encounter that went nowhere due to the providers lack of ability to perform at all. There was no "date" no "performance." Do I have to spell that out for you? We parted ways after a half hour of very difficult and uncomfortable chit chat. Sorry if I was not clear in the original post.

the original post......
What is a man to do who has had the worst experience in the hobby with a provider who due to a chronic medical condition should not be working in this industry. It would be a violation of privacy laws to disclose that she has a medical condition in a review. But her condition is the reason for her very poor performance. Just give her very low ratings and be done with it? The ironic thing is that she has fantastic reviews on another site and claims to have a large number of regulars who can't get enough of her. Believe me this is not a case of YMMV she can hardly stay awake or focus on things and appears to be drunk or high but is not. She is truly not able to give consent.

johngaltnh 6 Reviews 256 reads
posted
11 / 27

I'm sorry you had such an encounter, and also hope that the provider is able to have her condition amelioriated.

SolaLove See my TER Reviews 146 reads
posted
12 / 27

My understanding is that on this site you are unable to review a session which did not happen.

You might consider that your experience was a one-off.  If the provider has lots of fantastic reviews and plenty of regulars, perhaps this chronic medical condition is usually managed well?  I know a provider with MS.  She has good days and bad days.  She does not work on her bad days, preventing experiences such as what you had.  However, perhaps your provider thought she was fine in the morning and then her condition deteriorated before you arrived.  Perhaps she is transitioning from one management medication to another?  With the positive history and reputation that you say she has, it is quite unfair to assume that the situation you experienced is the norm for her.

You were a gentleman for leaving when you determined that she was not in a condition to give a good session, or to give consent.  You did the right thing.  However, from there let it go.  If she starts to give poor sessions because of her condition, that will be weighed against her past history.  Yet as you said, there was no "date"... thus, no review.

hound_dog69 41 Reviews 138 reads
posted
13 / 27

So, no, you don't need to spell it out. However, we are not mind readers here, which means that you do need to be clear about your question/statement.

Sometimes a lack of clarity is of no consequence. Other time it is. The difference in this instance would be severe if taken to a legal conclusion.

lilli 129 reads
posted
15 / 27


just like yourself and John, my very first thought upon the conclusion of reading the previous thread was "oh my god, this man has raped some poor, ill and desperate woman." i was hoping he WOULD write a review, so that perhaps he could be identified and it would be made known publicly to providers and everyone else that he is a rapist. so i am relieved beyond description that he clarified himself here, but he should not have been surprised that some of us concluded the worst, based on the way he laid out his story.

johngaltnh 6 Reviews 149 reads
posted
16 / 27

You quoted something you clearly didn't understand. It was a conditional statement predicated upon the acceptance of certain factors. It was not an allegation or even a WILD allegation.

So I'm sort of wondering if you are just an updated version of Eliza.

Apologizing for something I didn't do wouldn't be very sensible, but I will make a different apology -- for the OP, not you, because I'm not sure you are human.

For the OP: I apologize if the extreme directness of my question caused you undo angst. Retrospectively, I should have instead asked two directed questions that were by all appearances already answered in your post:

1. Was she able to give consent?
2. Did you have sex with her?

As for you, Hunter -- I have a date with a hot college professor this evening and haven't time to spar with a bot badly in need of updated software. While you're getting some updates I'll be having fun. ;-)

I won't hold my breath waiting for YOUR apology for your ad hominems.

-- Modified on 9/24/2010 4:29:12 PM

Sexy Carolina See my TER Reviews 133 reads
posted
17 / 27

Whatever"
That's like saying you dismiss a previous statement and express indifference
OR....powerful conversational blocking tool, leaving the responder without a convincing retort.

But then you go on to say.... she's that bad off? So now no one knows anything and she'll keep working. Guys will have bad experiences and she'll probably be taken advantage of, robbed, or worse if things are as bad as you say. You'll have to decide, alone, what you want to do.

Sounds to me like it's a little more than "Oh whatever"

If you could put yourself in his shoes for a minute. It was probably shocking and painful to see. He wants to help her. How should he do it? Should he do it? How about looking at her posts and reviews to see if there is an ATF and possibly contacting him with your concerns

This whole subject brings to mind many concerns and deserves more than a Whatever or misguided accusations. At some point we need to leave our ICONIC egos in the bedroom so they can get BLOWN with the rest of our lil brain.



Sexy Carolina See my TER Reviews 144 reads
posted
18 / 27


the original post......
What is a man to do who has had the worst experience in the hobby with a provider who due to a chronic medical condition should not be working in this industry. It would be a violation of privacy laws to disclose that she has a medical condition in a review. But her condition is the reason for her very poor performance. Just give her very low ratings and be done with it? The ironic thing is that she has fantastic reviews on another site and claims to have a large number of regulars who can't get enough of her. Believe me this is not a case of YMMV she can hardly stay awake or focus on things and appears to be drunk or high but is not. She is truly not able to give consent.

There must be some readers who went on to think he meant.....She is truly not able to give consent so I took her without her consent?
When I read his post I don't read that he did anything. She performed for him a lack of focus and appeared to be drunk or high and an inability to give consent. And he thought he could help if he wrote a review. Should or could he write one?
There is a big picture here and instead of reading it you jumped to conclusions and was on a bandwagon to capture a rapist.

We should not be surprised at all that some of us jump to conclusions. They read INTO instead of through.

lungman 10 Reviews 125 reads
posted
19 / 27

What is she going to do,go to LE and have you arrested?,,NOT!!!
Let's see if i got this right,,,A hobbyist goes to see a provider and she is unable to consent?
If she areed to see you for money,isn't that consent enough?
Weird post!!!! IMHO
Just put out an honest review and be done with it!

Posted By: piecrust
My whole point of posting this was to raise the question, should a client post a review of an encounter that went nowhere due to the providers lack of ability to perform at all. There was no "date" no "performance." Do I have to spell that out for you? We parted ways after a half hour of very difficult and uncomfortable chit chat. Sorry if I was not clear in the original post.

the original post......
What is a man to do who has had the worst experience in the hobby with a provider who due to a chronic medical condition should not be working in this industry. It would be a violation of privacy laws to disclose that she has a medical condition in a review. But her condition is the reason for her very poor performance. Just give her very low ratings and be done with it? The ironic thing is that she has fantastic reviews on another site and claims to have a large number of regulars who can't get enough of her. Believe me this is not a case of YMMV she can hardly stay awake or focus on things and appears to be drunk or high but is not. She is truly not able to give consent.

IMALLIN 82 Reviews 107 reads
posted
20 / 27

That's the key in deciding whether or not you should review, in my opinion. You CAN write a review when no "performance" takes place if she kept your money.

lungman 10 Reviews 120 reads
posted
21 / 27

I agree with Sexy Carolina,,,when i read the post,RAPE,was the furthest thing from my mind!

lungman 10 Reviews 130 reads
posted
22 / 27

SC,,that intelligence of your's,is such a "Turn On",,,LOL!!!

Sexy Carolina See my TER Reviews 131 reads
posted
24 / 27

accept your clarification. And like you suggest, encourage the OP to try to do something to try and help her by finding someone who knows her either from reviews,boards, post something on the regional board.
The second whatever certainly explained your view on the whole topic, and I appreciate your clarifications.
XO

hound_dog69 41 Reviews 96 reads
posted
26 / 27

Clearly, this strikes a fine line of the posting rules for reviews. You showed up for the session, but nothing transpired (was money exchanged at all???). For a ruling on posting a review, you could lay out the specific details (not the juicy ones) and ask if you can post.

If not, you can still provide her info via the reviewers only board, or similar, to get the word out. I have to agree with DirtyDiego that she was lucky with you and that others may not be so concerned.

There are certainly other unanswerable questions, such as the one suggesting that maybe her condition is usually managed well, and this was a fluke occurrence. You could choose to contact the provider as well. Especially if she was THAT gone when you arrived, I would suspect that you would have noticed something in your pre-session communications...

In the end, only you can decide the best course of action.

johngaltnh 6 Reviews 96 reads
posted
27 / 27

If you didn't make yourself so easily dismissed as either an idiot or piece of rogue software.

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