I always try to be discreet and delicate with the cash issue. If an envelope is left on a table I discreetly peek at it when my guy uses the bathroom, or after he leaves. I try not to offend by counting it right in front of him.
99% of the time this works fine for me, but this week I had two very disappointing incidents!
First a guy shorted my donation by $100. There just wasn't enough in the envelope. he knew, he just shorted me.
Then, a guy gave me the entire donation in what I later discovered were COUNTERFEIT $20 bills.
Needless to say i am pretty pissed. I open my home to you guys and let you join me in a safe, intimate setting. A certain level of trust or honor is expected. When you short me or give me fake money... well that's just WAAAYY F*CKED UP.
From now on all donations must be presented immediately and will be inspected and checked with the counterfeit pen. Don't get offended. I am not getting scammed anymore so this is what I have to do.
Well, you sure won't offend me if you do that. After all, you got to do what you got to do. I usually get all of my bills from an ATM right before I go to a session. Better safe than sorry.
That's F'd up girlie. I'm sure there is some type of Rob report that you can tell your fellow providers about. I'm not giving any new info here. I'm just sympathizing your situation. THAT SUCKS !!!!!!
I've been very fortunate...and I hope it stays that way...I pay for a hotel and I only see one or some times two clients a day...the gentlemen know this..so if I were shorted I would really get screwed and that's Not the Fun way either...lol...
this give the lady du jour entirely enough time to do whatever she will with the envelope, in a manner that does not make her uncomfortable.
As far as I'm concerned, I do not need to pretend that the envelope didn't happen lol so I do not care if the lady counts the donation right in front of me, as long as the switch flips into full on courtesan mode immediately thereafter '
Trust and honor unfortunately are not always guaranteed. I hate to say it but I know ladies who have even been shorted by regulars. At some point you have to decide how much trust you are willing to give but I certainly would not presume anything. Especially with a first time customer.
By the way, this whole business of "ruining the mood" by counting the donation is a load of crap. You are paying for sex. Get over it and enjoy the moment.
I agree with you Boston.
Unfortunately, I have been shorted and it was the worst feeling. The man knew he shorted me and I did try to get my dough...to no avail.
So I count the money in front of my guest.
we have good track records on that regard. If you compare to any other businesses, any transactions involving hundreds of dollars will call for counting money on the spot -- in this business, it rarely needs to. However, we do have some people trying to take advantage of this.
If I got a donation amount in counterfeit bills, I would be posting that persons name somewhere, so he wouldnt be able to do that twice!
Was reading a story on how counterfeiting is up with the recession, & the counterfeit pen just checks the paper it's printed on. A lot of counterfeiters just bleach (well, probably something stronger than bleach, but same idea) lower denomination bills & reprint them.
But other security features like threads & watermarks from the old bill would still be visible.
The first thing I do after the initial hug is take the money out of my pocket and drop it on a table in front of her. She can see she is not going to be ripped off and it eases her fear of being arrested. If I were LE she would be arrested right then and there. From that point on those are two issues she doesn't have to be concerned with. If she chooses to count the money that is fine with me because this is a business, and she earns a living by providing a service for a fee. Anyone who is offended by a provider who counts the money is too sensitive to be in the hobby.
If history has taught us anything it has taught us that once you are in a room with LE you are going to be arrested period. You can do anything you want with the money but it won't keep you from being arrested. As a matter of fact, no one cares what elaborate precautions you take to divert attention away from the money. Your attorney is only interested in what kind of a deal he can cut with the prosecutor to avoid a trial. Whether you like to believe it or not, your attorney is only concerned with what is stated in the arrest report regardless of what you tell him. The arrest report is the only information either the prosecutor or your attorney has to base their negotiation on.
Unless you end up going to trial and you testify under oath, no one will ever hear your side of the story and no one cares what your version is.
Thousands of these arrests are processed through the system every day and very few ever go to trial.
I hear you, but it goes to the fantasy (which it is) I bring a gift bag with a bottle of wine (or something) and a nice card - it's like a celebration of sorts. I'd hate for the mood to be ruined; but reality trumps make-believe... Sucks. Make-believe makes me feel 25 again. Just my opinion...
Wow! That completely sucks! I'd suggest you both go into the other room, pour a glass of wine (or root beer), excuse yourself for a moment, check business, and take it from there. Counterfeit??? WTF? It takes more time and trouble to manufacture bills (and it's a felony) than it's worth. Geez... Sometimes my head just hurts...
We should get reviewed just as the ladies do... There's no excuse for that. I'm really pissed, as this ruins things for the majority who are upstanding, respectful gentlemen. Grrrrrrrrr.
The girl was a former bank teller. She carefully examined the benjamins visually to make sure they weren't counterfeit. Now that was a real first for me. It didn't bother me - she was sucking my cock a few minutes later. Do what you feel you have to do.
Of course if you did not, then you are asking for the worse the hobby has to offer.
As far as the guy who allegedly passed the counterfeit bills, did you threaten to call the Secret Service? They would be more interested in who gave you the bills, then how you obtained them.
Sorry you had to endure this bad behavior from these guys.
Agreeing with ego, the Man would be very interested in who is passing funny money.
Yes I screened this guy. He had positive provider references, and has even reviewed providers on some popular sites.
Funny thing, the shit bag was discussing economics with me for half the session.
I have emailed him a couple times about the situation, reminding him he committed a federal crime- much worse than anything I have ever done! But of course the loser has not responded.
If anyone has any info on where I can post his information, so that he can't pull this off on other girls, I would appreciate it!!!
Once again, the array of responses has me dying to add. Personally, I couldn't care less how you(the ladies)quarantee what is rightfully yours. If it is done in my presence, I won't be calling you back. It is indeed unfortunate that this sort of transaction(or the lack there-of) occurs. I usually do a little 'wash-up' prior to,so I wouldn't see anyway. Note: I endured a 'meeting' where-upon exiting the washroom I was told that I was 'short'. I made up the 'mistake' and left immediately. I know damned sure my proffer was correct. This isn't rocket science. Summary; Shit happens, hopefully you don't get any on you. Just avoid it.
Hey I've been called tacky in a review for checking the money, I dont care. I've been shorted and given very good fake, some not so good fake bills one to many times.
I'm so sorry that happened to you. It happened to me once before with just one of the twenties so he may or may not have known (HA!). I am sweetsy, anyways, so I just say, "I'm going to put this away".... thenI always steal a moment beforehand, to go to the rest room...
Find a way that fits for personality. For me, it fits in with me being the 'sweetsy' me and thanking them and refreshing myself in the bathroom.
I always checked it before the beginning of the session as I don't want to get ripped off.
low-life guys in this hobby.
A couple of questions, how well did you screen the hobbyists? Were they new clients or repeat guys?
Some ladies request the envelope be left in the bathroom and then they go to freshen up and count the money. Others want the envelope by the table and ask you to wash your hands (while they count the money). Either way is acceptable to me.
What is not acceptable is to count the money in front of me. This destroys the mood.
Pick the envelope up as soon as you are sure it isn't LE and count it. Do it. If any guy is so "put off" by it then they need to quit seeing escorts. I have no problem at all with a lady counting it right then and there. I know why I am there, and she knows why I am there, no need to pretend otherwise.
Having a fun and delicious time after that is taken care of is what is important, and it will be much better and funner if the lady has no hang ups in the back of her head. Remember guys, the ladies can give so much more if their heads are in the right place. So don't balk at her making sure she is taken care of, think of it as assuring a wonderful session.
b-
Check the envelope money before or after.
I won't be offended as long as performance/service is great.
You might forward a couple of the fakes to the Secret Service along with info on the so-called gentleman. I'd hoped they would care less about your occupation in comparision to counterfiet money.
If your neighbor, or mom, worked at the grocery store and you were purchasing groceries: They would count the money before putting it in the register. Even honest mistakes are easy to make.
There is a remedy for turning someone back on, there isn't a collection service for us getting shorted or jerked around.
As personal as the appointment is, business must be handled before pleasure. wish it weren't so.
by you counting the money. I do have one question. I always have the right amount in the envelope but how does one then give extra. I put the money in the nevelope, we have a sensational time and I want to say thank you with something exatra, when and how do I do that without it being awkward? ("And this is for you young lady? Oh thank you kind sir." seems a bit too vaudevillian.)
I have had gentleman put it in my hand on there way out and say "go buy yourself something nice today..You deserve" and I say "Thank You xoxo 
" It makes me feel good...just like it would make You feel good to get a bonus at work...lol...recognition makes Everyone feel good
MeetEricaStone"If your neighbor, or mom, worked at the grocery store and you were purchasing groceries: They would count the money before putting it in the register. Even honest mistakes are easy to make."
"As personal as the appointment is, business must be handled before pleasure. wish it weren't so"
With a brand new provider with little exposure I never show the donation until after the deed..Its my way of checking for LE or cash and run ..If she is well reviewed on TER and her site insists donation be delivered on arrival I oblige ..If she counts it the first time I see her I can deal with it, although it does sour the GFE mood a bit..If she becomes a regular and continues to count I definitely don't visit anymore..
Actually I am down to a couple favs who don't see the donation until I leave ..The last time I left my ATFs incall I realized a block away I had forgot the donation so I turned around just as she called ..
I recently saw a new provider for the first time and her scheduler told me not to leave the donation until I was leaving.. She was definitely a more than great GFE.
I can definitely see the providers point of view requiring cash up front but I understand my point of view also..
today i saw an awesome provider thru an agency i have used for some time
i left the donation on the table when i arrived and had a wonderful time.
i got home later and noticed i had some cash in my pants pocket - i thought - did i not put all of the donation on the table? i had paid in 20's
so i called the contact and i asked if the donation was short - she said yes to settle up next time. i apologized profusely - very embarrasing-accidents do happen
Sorry to hear about this. Personally I have no objections to having the lady count first. Truth be told, I'd hand the donation straight to you except it seems that doing so is a taboo in this field. ( I'm still a newb ) Would this offend any of you ladies? If so, what would be the best method for those of use who are unabashed by your counting in front of us?
That sucks .... but in this hobby there will always be the guys who stiff the lady, or the lady who doesn't deliver what she advertises and thus stiffs the guy... Thus, each must take some precaution... I don't blame you for making sure you get what you should.
The TWO envelope system!!!! ONE with 1/2 the donation taken immediately by the provider. The SECOND envelope gets taken AFTER the session!
The provider can count each...doesn't matter to me...it doesn't "ruin the mood"....there is no mood until the date really begins. Now if the date is crappy, the provider doesn't even try, or is having a "bad day", she forfiets the second envelope. There are plenty of scams that go that way too. There are only two groups of people in the world who can do absolutely NOTHING for you and Still collect full payment....Doctors and Providers!
I know this idea will stir up some shit, and the WK's will come out saying that it is NOT "classy" to do this....but I got ripped for 2K, by a provider I had seen numerous times. She was always great. I took her out for an all nighter, she took her money up front...I got ONE 1/2 assed BJ in 12 hrs, while she brought out her laptop, and chased her boyfriend all over the TER board to see what he was posting. She also took phone calls from prospective clients, and one from her boyfriend! After bitching her ass out the next day, she promised to make it up...telling me she was just having a really bad weekend!..... YA right...She left town 2 weeks later.
This isn't an isolated incident with the ladies either, so while you are coming up with ways NOT to get scammed, the guys should be also.....The TWO envelope system!!!!!!
I shall keep an Eye on this post sir! I am ANXIOUSLY awaiting responses from the ladies.
end the session and demand your money back...tell her when she got her head screwed on right...call You and re-schedule...I just hope You wrote a review on her and let all the guys know...sorry
Provider gets envelope one...commence fun... after session,client doesn't pay remaining balance...says he didn't get what he wanted or hands her fake bills or just refuses.. then what?
Haggle over the previous intimates? I cant think of anything more revolting.
Simone
That's not cool. 2 envelopes? So if you aren't happy with her performance you keep half the donation? If you are not happy, then that's what reviews are for- leave one reflecting your experience. You ALWAYS pay the lady for her time. Period. If you gave me an enveloped with half the donation, I would send you away immediately, and assume you were trying to scam me.
As a individual doing a transaction where money is involved there should be no issue with anyone when the money is being counted. In my lifetime I have never gone to any establishment where I was just able to fork over the cash without it being counted, it's business gentleman not personal. Who has gone to the bank to make a deposit and the teller did not count the funds? What about McDonald's, you place the order, the total is given, the cashier counts the amount and puts the money in the register. Same thing with any transaction where money is involved, nothing new here. The comments regarding killing the mood has to do more with an ego that has not accepted what the reality of the situation is, but it does not change the matter at hand, you are paying for a service and the provider of the service has the right to insure the funds are correct, to assume anything else is selfish and rather inconsiderate to the service provider. If you seek a service which requires payment or some sort, it should be seen as that and nothing more.
You order a couple hundred dollars worth of food and drinks and your waiter says "Here is your bill. We're going to need payment in advance before we can serve you. No offense, but we've had some people skipping out without paying recently, so this is our policy". Seems perfectly reasonable to me. Think about why they never do that.
should we take a photo of You...and if the envelop is short...opps that right we still can't do anything...simple...Men don't short the envelop...Woman..if You give bad service give a refund...
Yes I screened this guy. He had positive provider references, and has even reviewed providers on some popular sites.
Funny thing, the shit bag was discussing economics with me for half the session.
I have emailed him a couple times about the situation, reminding him he committed a federal crime- much worse than anything I have ever done! But of course the loser has not responded.
***If anyone has any info on where I can post his information, so that he can't pull this off on other girls, I would appreciate it!!!***