I've never been able to figure that one out.

I have been rewarded with BBBJs from women who are known for only giving CBJs for doing an exceptionally good job down there. lol

Maybe they feel guilty for me having spent twenty minutes pleasuring them? Like I said, it doesn't work every time, but enough times for me to keep doing it. lol

Many men receive pleasure from giving pleasure.
They like it, so they do it.

I never repeat with girls who offer only CBJ's.

You asked why OTHER men do what they do.  That has nothing to do with your own preferences and requirements.  Each to their own!

May have something to do with it.  The risk of acquiring an STD from male seminal fluids is greater than from performing oral on a woman.  Someone posted a great pic from the CDC one time.  I wonder if I can find it....

Found a nice STD risk chart from UPenn. Might be what you're looking for.

So…men should not be deterred by the CBJ boundary because a guy just might ‘get lucky’ if he gives DATY that old college try? (even if that might be pushing his own safety boundaries?); because, if he manages to please her enough he may be rewarded with the provider crossing her own safety boundaries, and returning ‘the favor’ with a BBBJ?

Umm....not doubting your experience……just strikes me as a pretty questionable message…

It’s not really a tit-for-tat kinda thing. Maybe you should ask your other  brother about this

Yes to each their own I guess.

I do it because I enjoy it.  

I have sometimes gone down on my girlfriend with no intention to do anything more.

Do you think the answer will suddenly change? Do you think you will convince other men to change their behavior to fit yours? Why do you care what other men do or not do? Unless you plan on crossing swords with them, what they do on their dime is up to them, isn't it?

Perhaps the answer lies in the fact that each partner chooses the level of risk they are willing to accept. No one is obligated here. A lady is not obligated to engage in behavior she feels is too risky. Nor is any obligated to perofrm DATY if he doesn't want to. Simple as that.

But just for future reference, here is a nifty chart you might find interesting. Note the fact that oral sex performed on a woman carries only one known risk - herpes, and one possible risk, HPV. Compare that to the luandry list of potential risks associated with oral sex performed on a man.

Case closed. End of story. You accept the level of risk you are comfortable with. Let others make the same decision for themsevles.


Pete, meet repeat:

http://www.theeroticreview.com/discussion_boards/viewmsg.asp?MessageID=370966&boardID=12&page=

For educational purposes:

http://www.sfcityclinic.org/stdbasics/stdchart.asp

Always STD answer pops up every time. Let us pretend we are adults and answer the question.

I actually enjoy DATY as long as the lady is enjoying herself. I am strictly speaking for myself, and anyone who doesn't enjoy DATY, or who thinks its a safety risk, shouldn't do it

I don't expect those women to whom CBJ is an absolute to all of a sudden decide to swallow every drop of my jizz in appreciation. There are many other women however who will only give BBBJ's very selectively, reserving this little treat for BF's and extremely rare clients. It has been my experience that if I give a BFE, my chances of getting a true GFE are that much higher.

The OP asked why guys give DATY to women who only give CBJ's, I gave my answer. One other point, CBJ is not a deal breaker for me. I much prefer BBJs, but I won't pass on a lady just because she doesn't offer BBJ. It is one of my criteria, but not the only criteria I use.

STDs aren't answer enough?

The risks are more than enough reason for me to NOT do BBBJs. Actually it's probably why a lot of providers don't.

I can't really speak for the guys on why they DATY other than they simply want to regardless of if a provider does CBJs or otherwise.

as to why guys give DATY to women who only give CBJ's.

What you said is: you have been “rewarded with BBBJs from women who are known for only giving CBJs for doing an exceptionally good job down there”

What you said, in essence, is: Even if a provider only offers CBJ, if you do an exceptionally good job at DATY, she may give you a BBBJ anyway.

You may clearly understand the subtleties of providers with movable boundaries. But you also know as well(presumably better) than anyone the level of comprehension around here sometimes…..

If you were a guy, I would simply tell you to "fuck off", but you are not a guy.

I really can't think of anything else to say, so I won't. lol

i like the taste of pussy. is that clear enough? where the hell do these people come from?

a good reason that Salty Balls may not get many BBBJ is becuase...well never mind...the alias tells the story!

About DATY, as Sins above says...I enjoy it ALOT and I accept much less risk than a provider giving a BBBJ.  Its a risk I'm prepared to take while a provider may not be willing to accept the more substantial risk.

Now that level of risk is established...why is BBBJ the end all/be all???  I used to think the same thing until I had a really great CBJ...good technique is good technique and with the right condom it feels generally the same.  To be honest, the idea of getting a CBJ and then being able to move immediately to FS makes up for any subtle difference in the sensation.

One last thought...I don't think anyone is saying they do DATY just to hope for a BBBJ...if it was generally true that you could exchange good DATY for a BBBJ doesn't it follow that you could exchange GREAT DATY for uncovered FS??  Ok..maybe Greek??  Of course not...

the first man to tell me "fuck off"....

if your were..

which you're not...

lol...

your brother would have crawled up her ass with a lit cigarette.

Two individuals in a room together each bring different things to the table. They bring different backgrounds, desires, values and more.

Each will be open to different things.

There is nothing wrong with allowing each to expand to his/her limits so long as that doesn't impinge upon the other's limits.

The fact that I respect a woman's particular limit only means that she should also respect mine -- it doesn't mean that her limits become my own or vice versa.

Trying to turn sex into "eye for an eye" jurisprudence is absolutely NOT a recipe for a satisfactory experience.

work for each of them. It's really that simple.

-- Modified on 7/2/2010 10:06:26 PM

You are dealing with an alias who either wants to see how dumb a post he can possibly make, or he thinks anyone who sees the world differently than he does is wrong.

'cause I don't waste my time on ladies who only offer CBJ.  I don't care if they swallow, spit, or just duck and cover!  LOL   No BBBJ  No Date.

What the fuck do they have to do with each other. As pointed out, it is not quid pro quo.

I'm a pussy eater pure and simple. Yes I prefer BBBJCIM, but I have had some amazing CBJ. And if we're talking 69... who cares... hell, with the right pussy in my face I don't care if she is doing a BJ or HJ.

One of the better 69 sessions I've had, she stopped her BBBJ to grind her pussy harder into my face to get my tongue in just the right spot - for the third time that hour. You ALMOST can't pay for that!

DATY is not a 'reward' for getting a BBJ. If you enjoy DATY, why prevent your own enjoyment by not doing it? If you only view DATY as a treat for her but don't enjoy it yourself, then why do it at all? The session is supposed to be about your needs, not hers.

many ways there are to properly get hit by a car!


http://www.galactic-guide.com/articles/9R10.html

Why I DATY when she will only give me a CBJ:

1. I like the taste of pussy.
2. I love pleasing a woman.
3. I love the view of as I eat her out.
4. I like the smell of A clean pussy.
5. I like the moans she makes as I eat her out.
6. If she gets hers she often will do a better job on me.
7. I like a good CBJ almost as much as BBBJ.
8. BBBJ are not the end all be all for me. I do enjoy them but they are NOT a deal breaker for me.
9. I want the lady to be within her comfort zone and fell safe.
10. DATY is fun for me and turns me on.
11. DATY is safer than a BBBJ for both her and me when talking about STD s.
12. Both the lady and myself are adult and will do as we please no matter what you say.
13. Sometimes she will change her mind. Not often but it has happened.
14. It is none of you business what I do and why.

Any and all of the should answer you question. All of them are true and are reason enough for me.

Yum, yum, yum!!!

Fucking next!

If you really think about it, we won't be able to anything with that line of thinking. There are many risks in life and STD is only one of them. My post clearly stated "prudent" which means use common sense and do the right thing. Otherwise, we will be all living like Howard Hughes in a bubble. In the end, the bubble didn't save him either.

So, if you don't want to do BBJ, don't. Don't rationalize CBJ with STD's or try to scare others from giving BBJ because you don't. Neither side is right or wrong.

About what other folks do behind closed doors?

It is HOPE by doing DATY the lady will be so turn on that that she will cross her CBJ boundary.  Sort of like when the hobby ladies make their clients think with their small head instead of their big one. It would be a surprise to many hobbyist to know how many ladies don’t like DATY with their client but do it for the client satisfaction only. However HOPE spring eternally in many hobbyist penises