But certainly not most.
One of the GREAT things about doing this is NOT having to hangout.How taboo is it. I personally see no problem with it. I only ask because one of my favorite girls brought it up on our 5th date saying she wouldn't mind hitting me up to hangout or get drinks or something to that regard. I'll admit it caught me off-guard though I get that way also when random cute civie girls start flirting with me. But I'm a young guy so I can't speak from experience
I hang out with some of my fav regulars OTC all the time. Take it as a compliment, as if they didn't enjoy your company they wouldn't have mentioned it. You guys got to remember we are people too, and meet enough people to find at least a couple of people we enjoy spending unpaid time with.
I do and the girl in question has paid me more than several compliments. Telling me I'm good-looking and a nice guy, among other things. I just know it won't lead to anything which as it helps me to get better at social situations with someone who understands my dilemmas. If anything she'd probably make a good wing-man. Though also I'll try and not disrespect the fact that she decided to hang out with me.
But certainly not most.
One of the GREAT things about doing this is NOT having to hangout.
I'll have to disagree with this. I wouldn't consider it HAVING to hang out, as hanging out is an option, not a requirement. I would consider it a compliment.
One of the GREAT things about doing this is NOT having to hangout.
I wouldn't ever suggest it to her.... but when suggested to YOU, it has been the biggest compliment ever. You got asked out on a date (or to hang) by a hot woman, what's better than that??
Go with the flow WITHOUT wrecking the flow... if you know what I mean. Treat it as a regular civilian date. I would talk & suggest what y'all want to do during that time..where to go etc.. I wouldn't bring up the... "OK so what happens if it "goes there" are we back on the clock, or not"?? Follow her lead on that one.
She gives you a peck after the time and says ttyl.. go home... She says, you wanna come over?? Response: "Sure.. I'd love to...I'm parked right over here, let me drive you"..
One of the GREAT things about doing this is NOT having to hangout.
Not doing so would be presumptuous. And when she tells you that the envelope isn't necessary, then you better start thinking with the big head. That experience can be fun while it lasts, but ends well very infrequently.
I wouldn't ever suggest it to her.... but when suggested to YOU, it has been the biggest compliment ever. You got asked out on a date (or to hang) by a hot woman, what's better than that??
Go with the flow WITHOUT wrecking the flow... if you know what I mean. Treat it as a regular civilian date. I would talk & suggest what y'all want to do during that time..where to go etc.. I wouldn't bring up the... "OK so what happens if it "goes there" are we back on the clock, or not"?? Follow her lead on that one.
She gives you a peck after the time and says ttyl.. go home... She says, you wanna come over?? Response: "Sure.. I'd love to...I'm parked right over here, let me drive you"..
One of the GREAT things about doing this is NOT having to hangout.
I have had dozens of "real" relationships with providers that started out this exact way, and while I will agree that they all end sometime, they don't seem to end anywhere near as badly as civvie relationships. As a matter of fact almost everyone of my "hooker exes" have ended up still friends, I wish I could say the same about my civvie exes.
My advice to the OP is the same as most of the others. Go with flow. If you like each other, why not hang out? Dating hookers is backwards from civvie dating, with "hooker dating" you fuck first and become friends second. Maybe that's what I like about it? lol
It happens sometimes. I've spent a lot of OTC time with my ATF. Just don't start expecting it - let her I intimate it, and roll with it. As Breanna said, not a big deal. We're all human and need interaction with those we have a general interest.
My rule of thumb regarding OTC time is he books a date and on that SAME DAY, I will go to dinner OTC...not on some random day just for kicks.
The mere fact that you are asking about this here suggests you read something into it.
I agree with London !! NO NO NO NO NO.....it's going down a road you don't want to drive on. Next thing you know you will be posting that "I feel in LOVE".... NO NO NO NO.....think about it...why do you go to dinner with a chick? To get in their pants after or before...you are paying this women to fuck you and leave...thats the point. NO STRINGS ATTACHED so why would you want STRINGS. are you lonely?
There are no strings attached she's just a friend. And I can't really "feel in love" if I don't believe in love. At least not romantic love. It's not gonna lead to anything because of a lot of factors and hobby isn't one of them. I mean she likes me, I like her, it's pretty straightforward I just figure she just enjoys hanging out someone her own age who has similar interest and taste in music, like most people do lol.
to hang out for free, I would be looking for more from him or not bother. I have friends to hang with. It can ruin the financial aspect of the relationship. Once you give something away, it's hard to get paid for it again. I mean, hey if this works for you guys by all means, go for it. I simply don't run my business that way, or my relationships. Now, if a guy I have NEVER seen for pay says "Hey girl, see you are in town and some of the guys want you to come to this poker game," I am there! That is not a one on one meeting though.
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Well she was also in a city that she didn't know to well and figured I could show her around I guess, I mean she only casually mentioned that she was thinking about it while she was up my way. I know she's probably not interested in me given her encouraging me to get out and pursue civie girls. I figure she'd help me get laid with a civie girl. I mean if she expects me to pay for anything other than her drinks/food, like her time, well then I better be getting what normally get. But if it's not I appreciate that she wants to spend time in a stress free environment with someone who's company she enjoys.
I didn't read into it I'm going in thinking she just wants to spend sometime with me outside the hobby in a casual setting. She only said something because she was in the area for an outcall and was thinking about texting me afterwards to hang-out. I saw it as harmless, since I know I'm still a source on income for her, and chances are nothing is going to come of it, outside of two friends enjoying each other's company. I honestly just wanted to hear other peoples thoughts on the matte I already know where I stand on it.
Don't let the naysayers influence you,
and LR, doesn't the fact that FIDIOT agrees with you make you want to reconsider your opinion? lol
I have run the gamut from full out "real" BF/GF type relationships with women I have met through the hobby to very casual, business/pleasure type friends/client relationships. One of the most enjoyable of recent memory was a couple of month ago with a Thai provider who was new to town and living in her agency incall, She had been in town for weeks and hadn't seen anything but the inside of her incall, We became friends and I would usually be her last appointment of the day (paid appointment I might add) afterwards we would go to dinner, or the movies, or whatever. Neither of us had any delusions that it would lead to a BF/GF relationship, we just enjoyed it for what it was, She now works in a different city and we are still friends by text and email. I defy anyone to tell me that we should not have enjoyed our time together.
Have fun, young grasshopper, and come back and tell all the cynics how much fun you had despite their dire predictions to the contrary.
you may tend to get certain perks that the one timer or once a year guy doesn't. Sometimes it results in OTC. Other times it's a reduced rate structure, and other times it can be simply be an expansion of the menu. Ladies tend to like guys that treat them nicely and like guys even more who are a consistent steady source of income. If you are both, she might want to induce to to continue to be both and OTC is a good a method as any. Especially if you are taking her to shows, concerts, dinner, paying for drinks with her friends. Then again if you are doing all that, how far OTC are you. She's not sleeping with you, but you are still spending cash. Win/Win ...for her
Of course, this can also potentially become a slippery slope. When what started out as you hanging out at her place for the afternoon becomes you mowing her lawn then you might have transitioned from OTC to CHUMP.
Just because you are all a bunch of old losers that no woman would want to hang out with without being well paid doesn't mean that everyone here is a loser too.
Assuming that the 91 in the OP's handle stands for his age, I am over thirty years older than him and I still get offers to go out for drinks etc without any ulterior motives on the part of the ladies whatsoever. My advice to you old fucks is to go get some game and quit trying to piss on other people's parades. Next thing you know,you'll be admonishing him for seeing hookers in the first place.
Seeing as how we live a great distance away and she doesn't have a lawn I don't see that last part ever happening, she's nice and the sex is great, but I'm not gonna bust my balls just to spend some time with her, if I did I wouldn't be in the hobby. She even encourages me to pursue civie girls which makes me think she'd make an awesome wingman, so if anything she' gets me laid with a civie girl. I guess I just weigh the pros and cons, but proceed with caution.
Guy they would want won't go for what they do and 2. The guy they may get is a creep. So its not guard for a girl to want to see and or date a provider . I've done it. And why ? We hit it off and I don't judge . Now was it a "normal dating relationship ? No , but it was a fun time for both. And what did they mostly want ? To be held and gave a guy around to be with. I mean a guy who knows the hobby is the perfect bf . And do you think that they have dates like the ones you do ???? Nope . You get what you get because you like me treat them ( the ladies ) with respect. Read the reviews ?? How many do you see like yours ? B gd MT.
and better that you leave it out of reviews or for that matter, mention any specifics on the boards.
And as others have said, let her make the suggestion. Don't read ANYTHING into it. Keep in your mind that this is good customer service as well as she likes you and most likely wants to keep you as a regular.
Nothing more unless she starts having sex with you for FREE.
That just happened to me recently. I think she was just horny that day so she called me for some fun as we have been hanging out now for awhile. I do plan on paying her next time though. I will only not pay if and when SHE asks me for some OTC sex. I don't want to ruin a good thing but it is nice to know she thought of me when she wanted some fun time for herself. It is definitely an ego booster for sure.
Lucky you mate, I don't know that it will happen, I mean she tells me I'm great, I think she's just being nice about that.
arise because people just don't communicate. Trust me on this one.
If you talk through what each others expectations are and continue to be open and honest, you should be ok.
There is an expiration date as others have said but enjoy it while you can.
and her maturity as well. If you both recognize "how you met" and have a mutual attraction there is no issue. The moment you feel the need to tell her how to conduct her life, there will be trouble. But I've done it as a "one off" thing, I've also done it as a continuing thing. In both instances both parties had the freedom to call it off with the other recognizing that once it is called off, leave the other alone.
Were I you, I'd do it but be careful of your feelings. I am NOT saying anything bad about the lady, only the situation.... for a lot of these ladies, THIS is a very lonely profession, she may want a friend.
Right that's what I was thinking she only has one other person that knows she does this that she told me. So I guess I can take it as that. Even if somehow something did happen I would never tell her how to live her life. It's her life not mine. I'm just glad that I'm at least on her mind, and that might be a good thing and speaks about my potential in the civie world but if. She already know's I'm not looking for a relationship so I know it's entirely or at least for the most part platonic, are we attracted to each other? Sure, but that doesn't mean we can't just be friends and still maintain the arrangement we have established
I've spent off the clock with 2 of my clients. Had a good time with them too.