What are your thoughts on this?

For new locations, I have arrived 30 minutes early, but, as you mention, I head off to a public eatery (or drinkery (coffee not alcohol)) and wait until 5-10 minutes before. Although, as a provider, if you work out of a hotel, I can see less angst on your part. But those that work out of their homes, I can see the problem.

Sometimes I have my dogs (the guys know) and will be walking them outside.
Sometimes I run down to my car to put things in it.

Start charging for ALL of your time. That will put an end to that nonsense quick. Lawyers bill in 15 minute increments - so can you, and the bastards round up to bill. e.g. a 5 minute phone call get rounded up to 15 minutes for billing purposes.

It's very simple just stick with the time that was agree upon and respect it.
If you come early that is on you.
Some ladies don't mind and others do mine.
We all have personal lives and that is the main point to remember.
 

Feel free to sit down next to someone...log on to TER and post a few times to kill whatever time you need to.

Like bigguy30 said.

A few times I have jokingly said "you have reached your text limit. They will now be 5c/each"

There's a large reception area at most hotels upon arrival.  There's plenty of outdoor seating for guests waiting for cars.  There is often a contingent of people coming and going.  

What you are talking about crosses well over into "stalker territory" and those guys are NOT going to ever listen to a "gentle suggestion"  

Most people I know show up late

Its not paranoia, it's rude and fucking annoying! It happens far too often. I will often get texts from clients 10, 15, 20, ,25, and yes even 30. You just schedule an appointment with your doctor then show up 30 minutes early, and walk into the doctors office whenever you feel like it, or your lawyer. Hell even my massage therapist won't take me earlier than my scheduled time.  

Never been stood up, thank goodness, but what is the issue?  

God, you guys sure use the word "stalker" a lot. Stupid maybe but hardly stalking. Ask somebody how long to go from SF to San Jose. Answer 20 to 90 minutes depending on traffic, weather, accidents and other delays but *when* you leave has a lot to do with it. Depending upon where he was coming from, he may have left early to avoid traffic.

if he would prefer me to be a little bit early or a little bit late.

Showing up 30 minutes early is clearly not "stalkerish" in it's own as I CLEARLY said. Taking pics of the woman unbeknownst to her most definitely IS stalker behavior.  

and even those I know, if I'm traveling a distance.  But unless the gal has previously said "when ever you arrive", I don't expect admission before the scheduled time.  Once I have located the call point, I withdraw to the corner coffee shop where I will not be conspicious.  (In my suburban area, this works.  Likely different in a urban setting.)  
If I know her, I have probably let her know that I'll be at the coffee shop.  I've made the call from there, after timing my return.  If not, I'll return with 5 minutes to spare.  

It is privacy when you are being invited as a guest to show up at a certain time.

That is a whole different topic of conversation!!! lol lol

That is what could be leading to some of the confusion. If you use tree mode, it's plain which post of hers I was responding to, and why your post looked like you can't read to me. If you use flat mode it's easy to get mixed up about who is talking or responding to who, and your mistake makes more sense.

"Ok, room 1405."

It's all I can do you get my room the way I want it, get my makeup and HAIR the way I want it before the allotted start time.

Meetings at hotels are NOT private affairs.  Meeting in YOUR room is a private affair.  

What does not showing up being compared to being early have anything to do with the other??

You should charge your parents for the therapy sessions if that's what you had to be taught.

I arrive early and make calls, send texts/emails, etc.

I do it all the time when arriving early for non hobby meetings, and in this age of smart phones, I Pads, etc it's really not that uncommon for salespeople and business men to be doing "work" from their call in between appointments.  

I guess they can just tell security that it's protocol in their world.

Not that I'm judging, but I said you missed the part about me and not logging in when I'm in the real world.

I am usually early but my solution is park some place away from her incall and get  a soft drink 0r check my email. Then proceed and get   there about 5 minutes early and check with her. This works for me and no one is pissed off

When I go somewhere to see a rock concert I'll throw a little party in my room or go to one in someone else's..

Sorry guys, but none of us are that important to other people going about their own business. Unless you are hanging around hotel lobbies for hours on end. or if you park yourself right across from the front desk in a Hampton Inn, nobody is going to pay much attention to you.

That I mentioned in this thread happened from a guy that I saw twice during the same in call, same room.
He already knew it.

The other day, I was seeing a client for the second time. At 2pm, we re-confirmed that he was coming to my hotel room at 3pm.
At 2:30pm, 30min early, he knocks on my door. No warning. He just came to my door!
I had no makeup on, hair was a mess, my room was still a mess. NOT the impression I wanted to give!  

and I do agree that knocking on a lady's door, even at the appointed time without calling/texting first is bad etiquette on his part.

In most major cities travel time can vary by as much as an hour to and from the same destination depending on traffic. You can't always plan on lane closures, accidents, weather, so if you have what you expect to be a thirty minute drive, many if not most "considerate" clients are going to err on the side of being early, not late. No one "wants" to have to hang around 30 minutes waiting for their "date" to get ready, but when the alternative is to risk being a half an hour late instead, "considerate" people are going to give themselves a cushion.

Yup!

My ideal would be,

You were worried about bumping into the guy in the lobby.

You're really odd in how you see life.

How is it YOUR "office?"

But I quickly learned to adapt to adversity.

I wait at a fast food joint or some other parking lot until 10 minutes till. I live in the middle of no where so I have to drive an hour to get to the my preferred city. Fight traffic and all that fun stuff. I guess sometimes it depends on the lady. If a guy has run across a few strict ones that your time start's at your scheduled time wouldn't you be a little early knowing the session has started no matter what. In my case if I leave my house to be there on time that means I will be at least 15-30 minutes late.

I had a thing with him yesterday on following the thread. That might be his issue more than reading comprehension.
Then again...

I don't quite understand the problem. Is he taking pictures of you while he is early or just in general arriving early?

I left out a "NOT" just like you left out a you(R).

But, like.. If I am early, I find something to do to kill the time.

There's a beach in Vegas?  Near Red Rock...or is it on the Strip?

1. If the visitor has never met you, how would the visitor recognize you?

I wonder where else she thinks we cant "linger?"

... using common sense on both sides.

Was this therapy for srx addiction?  Lol. Sorry
 Couldn't resist
 

Try all the stuff to knock it out too.

and treating an entire hotel as if it's your private residence he is trespassing on.

The only people allowed to park in front are Donnie and Hillary...and of course Bob.Sugar

I have no problem with you showing up early. If I am ready I will take you, I usually am getting ready before the appt so I ask you to wait. Here's my issue, Ive had some gentlemen that show up early by 30 min, which again, for me is fine, but if I ask them to wait until our appointment time, they begin getting mad as the time creeps up. I even had someone say to me, I was hoping to get here early so I can be back to work before 2, or I took my lunch early so I could be here early. I couldnt help that. I know when you are bored, it seems like forever to wait, but I cannot help if you come early and please just wait until our appointment time so that I can be ready to tease and please you properly. Don't be angry because you came early and I'm not ready yet. I'm currently working on becoming a mind reader.  

What I don't understand is why is it a issue of arriving early. I mean if the guy is late for the appointment, some providers will make it such a big issue. However, I agreed about it's wrong going to the providers door early without notification. At the same token, the guy could be traveling a distance and certain factors might cause him to be early. Which leaves a question; why make it a big deal if the guy be like 20 to 30 minutes late?

nice "selfy" 8o)

A mine is a terrible thing to waste ... Or not to have.  

1) i have photos online. they may blur my face, but they dont blur everything else. so if i am in public i am easily recognizable especially in a low traffic area where someones knows they are coming to meet an image that they have seen.  

someone is comparing being late to being early...
as mrfisher said, there is such a thing as "be on time."

Here's a shot of me pulling off another multi-billion dollar deal.

I just couldn't seem to keep a relationship going with any woman, so a friend of a former girl friend suggested that I see this therapist she had seen.  She couldn't say enough good things about him, and she herself in the year she saw him dropped about 150 lbs, found a great job, and a great husband.  She insisted that I call the guy right then and there and make an appointment, so I did.  I owe her a great debt of gratitude.

Otherwise he didn't know proper etiquette either.

Posted By: Alyssa Marie

someone is comparing being late to being early...  
 as mrfisher said, there is such a thing as "be on time."  
   
 

he measures things in nautical miles. That throws his arrival time off a bit.

can we just "close" bob sugar instead of closing all of the threads that he vomits all over minute in and minute out?

Because you highlighted in your post that people being 30 mins early as a big deal. Not everything can be perfect in ideal world to just being just on time. People don't live at close proximity.

I sort of thought the same as you, but now he's become an acquired taste

i would have never survived in the 40s..

life is all about what you do while you are trying to "be perfect." :

However, you mentioned just be on time. If I am a boss, I would find that the guy is showing drive by arriving early and appreciate it instead of the person just dragging in just on time for work. That analogy meaning it isn't like the guy is being a no show or etc. I guess I don't find the big deal being early. Now the other things that you mentioned like pictures taking or just walking to your door, I understand and that is not right but just arrived early like 30 minutes should not be an issue.

begging TER to shut someone down, publicly or not, is really bad form?  Not to mention it shows you simply can't handle him.  Though with your continual retorts we already knew that.
Besides, as mrfisher said, some of us find him amusing.  I'll admit he's an acquired taste.

Yep, that caps a full day for you sweetie!

There is something that sounds confusing. You mentioned that he showed to your door unannounced, however, how did he know the room number to the same exact spot? I mean as a provider, for protection, I would of change rooms to prevent this matter.

Posted By: Alyssa Marie

That I mentioned in this thread happened from a guy that I saw twice during the same in call, same room.  
 He already knew it.  
   
 I wouldn't give the room number out before I'm ready..  
   
 I send a,  
   
 "Here is where I am.  
 Please call when you are parking and I'll guide you to the elevators and give you the room number."  
 

What's the difference?

Who could turn a simple thread into a "Why?", "I know but why"...dude needs a different hobby.
Never seen TERAdmis close 3 off threads because how it turned into some,"I know you are but what am I?

Guess you're just not so happy go lucky.

PS: This is a fuck board and it's OK to spell out Asshole.  TERAdmin isn't going to wash out your mouth with soap.  She's perfectly nice.

If I am not sure where I am going, no matter the reason, I ALWAYS like to be 10-15 minutes early... I can't help it, it's my OCD coming out.  

A lot of employers don't want someone showing up early. Ten minutes to get situated, but my on the books job have a timeline to have the in flow and the out flow run smoothly.

It was like a Monday and a Wednesday.
If I have an in call for three nights, I'm not going to ask to switch rooms each day...

Yes, if the client knows the room number then that is the same as having him at your house... He knows you are behind door number 1. I also did not assume they knew what you looked like and that you were outside your door (walking dogs, running to car, drinking at the bar).  

Most have their incall location in a secure building where you need to be buzzed in for exactly this reason.

That's pushing it in terms of your security, as well as your clients.

While I respectfully agree with you on a permanent incall location, like she mentioned, it is a hotel. It just seems that the whole story is odd. I am not saying that she is doing this, but it seems like she is not giving the whole story and just making herself look good.

Let's see if this makes the headlines....if not then you suck.

I can kind of understand about that based upon your field you work in, but certain jobs prefer earlier. Like the saying goes, the early bird catches the worm. if you go to the movies, do you just want to be on the dot or early to get the best seats? There are certain factors that is involved.

what part of a story am i missing?
maybe you are confused that i am telling more then one story?

So was the room that you reserve for a week or just one day intervals. You didn't say that you reserve for a week.

again, I'm not sooooooooo concerned about someone showing up to the room. or walking down the hallway.....  

what the heck????

Coming from you it's quite the compliment

are you comparing getting a good seat at the movies to showing up to an event that doesn't rely upon first come first served?

If the early bird catches the worm, then it is equally true that the early worm gets eaten.

Getting eaten that is  

In this scenario, I think if the client wants his, umm, worm, properly cared for, he might be wise not to make the lady feel uncomfortable by arriving too early.

if i did quick visits and met with 15 people a day, maybe. but i present myself as a lady on business and cause no problems and people dont show up when they aren't supposed to show up.

Are they part of the scene?

That's because you're NOT a Douche Bag.  

I like this

I know that we will not all agree and thanks for most of all of the participation ...even the childish comments, you serve your purpose. I couldn't read Jacks because he's on my ignore. I'm sure they were worthless anyway.

My incall is a private apt. It's a 2 bedroom and not shared with anyone else. I have a gate at the entrance that requires a code for entry. I've had several gents over the years not call as specifically stated in directions, just follow someone through the gate and linger in my complex. It's extremely off putting. It draws attention and puts me on guard as I am very discreet.  
Bored people pay attention to lingering people around their home. I don't want or need that attention at my incall. Any of my repeat clients pulling that bs will not get through my door.
I appreciate you bringing this up

I need to get that printed on a t-shirt.  

on whether the gent and I have discussed the possibility of coming early or not...generally at the time of the last touch base, I will mention and sometimes be asked about this.  I try not to book tightly so that there is no rush factor and to keep my day free to be sensually more present.  Talking to my kids before I meet with someone can be a big buzz kill...ya know?    

and no peeking all over the place for side doors...I have been told by bartenders that they can spot the slightly nervous and excited gent who is looking at his phone incessantly.  I suppose that they don't know whether it is a social media blind date or hobbying, but a lady here does not need that to happen several times in a day or a stay.

if my phone is on vibrate and my grams calls, i will always answer. same with my mom. thats the golden rule that i just dont break. but i am able to snap in to alyssa mode in half an hour. its easy for me to do that. which is kinda why i like that half an hour...

Everyone does business differently, but I know one gal who never sees more than one guy in a particular hotel.  I know others who will see several in a day but then switch rooms.  If your method makes you comfortable, fine.  But I still think staying in the same room for three days straight is less than discreet.  The men reading this can make up their own minds.

That'd be a massive pain in the ass. Ever think the chick who told you that may have been telling you a little white lie? There's no way to be sure if she is or isn't lying, but I can't imagine bouncing around to different hotels every day, especially with the gap between check-out & check-in.

He's the guy who asked for the first appointment of the day.
He showed up 45 minutes early.
He commented, "you're in town for two more nights, right?"

That's just wrong.

Unless the worm being late getting back to it's hole was the reason it got caught by the early bird.  Just sayin'

Hmmm, I'm going to agree with the guy who takes his therapist's advice of "just be right on time."

Keep up, Tobe! LOL!

The only other reason I can think of is if her appointment schedule would necessitate it. For example: if she had a 6pm on Tuesday, a 12pm on Wednesday and a 10am on Thursday. You get the idea.

Depending on the travel time and the possibility of traffic issues I tend to show up a few minutes early. Sitting in the parking lot waiting can draw unwanted attention where sitting in the hotel lobby either reading or texting looks very normal.

I want to meet the plastic surgeon who removed all that excess skin!  I want to buy him a drink.

All of it seem to be a stretch but if men are not gentle men who doesn't know how to behave then it is crap shoot. I have ran into providers in hotels and public places and my rule is, if they make contact and say hi, I will say hi back if not, I mind my own business and walk away.

...the time we agreed on.  And should NOT get huffy because they for example came at 5pm but we agreed on 5:30....drive around or go to a bar or store or something and find something to do that's NOT waiting in your car or sitting right in the lobby (unless it's a super busy lobby).

This therapist had quite the magnetic personality, and got great results.

... I have to call you while I am waiting at the gate.  

Posted By: TaylorLeighxxx

Re: I agree. It's inappropriate. My incall is a private apt. It's a 2 bedroom and not shared with anyone else. I have a gate at the entrance that requires a code for entry. I've had several gents over the years not call as specifically stated in directions, just follow someone through the gate and linger in my complex. It's extremely off putting. It draws attention and puts me on guard as I am very discreet.  
 Bored people pay attention to lingering people around their home. I don't want or need that attention at my incall. Any of my repeat clients pulling that bs will not get through my door.  
 I appreciate you bringing this up

That's why my directions clearly state to call 5 minutes prior to your arrival they already know the gate code at that point if they can follow simple directions. Unbelievable how difficult that is for some! As I stated, repeat clients know and understand this. If they can't seem to follow my rules, no go. I'm a little lenient with new clients, but don't appreciate them not willing or capable of following SIMPLE instructions

Because traffic in DC/Baltimore can be problematic, I often end up giving myself plenty of time and then arriving 30 minutes or more ahead of time.  When I do, I'll often send a quick text saying something like: