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It could have been worse..........
........... You could have been on the floor in the back seat instead.
I saw my current ATF today. It was her birthday yesterday, so I said I would treat her to lunch. I saw her drive a car (that she borrowed) to the hotel where we were to meet. And we said we'd go and eat first. She then drove her car and I followed her and we parked at this restaurant and had a nice lunch. Then, we went back to the hotel. For some reason, the hotel asked to see her ID and she did not like it, because this hotel did not use to require her to present an ID. She's paranoid of LE. So, she said we should drive to another hotel. Anyway, to cut the story short, from the time we met to our leisurely lunch to her safe hotel, that took almost 2 hours. Here's the thing. When I was waiting for her to get registered and get the card key, I saw a guy lying flat down inside her car just beside the driver's seat - WTF ? All the time, there was a guy hiding inside her car that she did not want me to see. We then proceeded to our session, and I said "there's a guy in your car!". And she said, 'oh don't worry about it. I didn't want you to see him, because I didn't want to spook you and ask more questions about him. He's just a friend'. Anyway, our session proceeded nicely and I got to pop twice, but she was kinda rushing the 2nd pop. It somewhat spooked me with her hiding the guy for me not to see. I have always trusted her, but I just couldn't get out of my mind there there was a guy hiding there for 2 hours before our session even started. It kinda ruined the fantasy that we were on a date.
If I saw a guy lurking in a provider's car before a session I'd probably get so spooked I'd bail entirely. And her explanation just doesn't wash. Maybe it all was innocent but, when confronted she couldn't even lie well. I mean, who brings a "guy friend" along on a session? Not a true pro, unless the guy got weird kicks by doing it and was paying her. If so, he was probably sniffing the driver's seat of her car while you were partying with her. Kudos to you (I guess) for going through with it at all. It would have given me a terminal soft-on and ruined the whole session.
I can understand how that would be in the back of your mind during the session....too bad. Hope you work it out for next time, especially if she's your fav.
........... You could have been on the floor in the back seat instead.
Her boyfriend really had nothing better to do than hide under the dashboard? No where else to go? What a fucking lame.
It was her BF or Pimp or some other John. I think you are a little guilty of taking the hobbyist/provider relationship out of context. It is OK to care about your ATF. After spending so many intimate moments with each other that it may be impossible for some of us to keep it strictly business. I have been guilty of this as well in the past. However, if she did her part in the session (with some dude in waiting in the car) without complaint from you, then she needs to be commended for her professionalism.
As I said she was rushing towards the end. She got a phone call from that guy. I paid her for 1.5 hour and were done in 50 minutes. I did pop twice, but it was very rushed. She wanted me to put my limp dick in her without doing any BJ for the 2nd pop, and I could tell she was rushing. She even said 'I didn't mean to rush you but i have to do something.' I wasn't really happy but still got to do 2nd cup. And I blamed it on the waiting guy. If she gave me 90 minutes, I would have adopted your point of view. She normally does not rush me like this and we had 2 hour sessions before.
outstanding ladies without drama to see this provider again.
I don't know what thread your reading pal, but showing up for any appointment with a dude waiting for her in the Hotel parking lot is STUPID if not borderline retarded. Have you not read a single thread about how not to get noticed at a hotel. Professionalism my ass. Hanging out hotel parking lot vehicle for no reason is suspicious behavior
Doc
Hanging out in a car, outside a resturant or hotel especially is NOT low profile. It draws the attention of hotel security & maybe LE who are asked to patrol hotel lots to stop thefts from guests cars. I know this first hand.
A lady that draws attention to herself, is being sloppy & less secure than she should be. This puts HER at risk and anyone who is with her. It's just not cool.
Personally, I have to agree with HD... moving on
skb
Is it normal to drive to dates with a guy lying on your car floor for a couple of hours? Do you pay these guys to do this, or are they just friends who do it for fun or as moral support?
Or maybe be was a new driver and they had not quite worked out the roles?
Yeah, it does sort of kill a little of the fantasy, but mostly I am having a hard time imagining this guy lying on the floor of a car for hours. He has to have been doing it because she insisted, and she must have insisted out of consideration for how you might react. And she was completely correct, as it worked out.
So, while I probably would have reacted similarly - a wtf moment - if you think about it, they were all really going out of their way to make you happy, even that guy was making a special effort, so you are doubly special! Give yourself a hug.
Zig
Would have been the happiest person if she gave me 2 hours of playtime for the 1.5 hours I paid her (even with the dude). Unfortunately, she cut my time short. That's really the rub there.
Good point. No excuse for that.
...you should have handed it directly to the guy. Cause for sure that's where your money ended up - in his pocket.
You just met the guy who's f**king your ATF for free, and getting paid by you.
How many of hobbyists are that delusional as to think of your time with a provider as a "date?" I know we tend to use the euphemism, but seriously? You are paying a woman for sex and a time of companionship. I am not inferring any disrespect for the provider, just calling it what it is. Even this obsessive notion of "ATFs" is somewhat disturbing. We all have needs and we choose to meet them in the way that works for us, but let's not confuse the nature of relationships. Again, to be clear, I am not saying that it is simply a market transaction, but engaging in some fantasy about a "date" seems to be too far in the other direction.
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